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FriscoLady
02-24-2004, 06:13 PM
By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

"WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) urged approval of a constitutional amendment banning gay marriages on Tuesday, pushing a divisive social issue to the center of the election campaign and setting a clear policy contrast with Democratic challengers John Kerry (news - web sites) and John Edwards


Bush said "activist judges and local officials" from Massachusetts to San Francisco to New Mexico were attempting to redefine marriage and "change the most fundamental institution of civilization" by allowing same-sex weddings. "On a matter of such importance, the voice of the people must be heard," he said.

Democrats accused Bush of pandering to right-wing supporters and tinkering with the Constitution to divert attention from his record on jobs, health care and foreign policy. "He is looking for a wedge issue to divide the American people," Kerry said.

Both Kerry and Edwards said they oppose gay marriages but would not support a constitutional amendment.

Banning gay marriage is a top priority for Bush's conservative supporters, particularly those among religious and family-oriented groups. But while a majority of Americans — sometimes by as much as a 2-1 margin — oppose legalizing gay marriages, Bush's move could hold political risks, particularly if voters see him as intolerant or question his self-description as a "compassionate conservative."

"The president needs to worry about fair-minded swing voters in America, not a Republican base that he has locked up," said Patrick Guerriero, executive director of Log Cabin Republicans, a gay GOP group.

Mindful of the high emotions and clear differences on the issue, Bush said, "We should also conduct this difficult debate in a manner worthy of our country, without bitterness or anger."

Conservatives were delighted Bush had plunged in. "There is no more important issue for our nation than the preservation of the institution of marriage," said Kelly Shackelford, president of the Texas-based Free Market Foundation, a family advocacy group.

Momentum for a constitutional amendment has grown as San Francisco officials have performed thousands of same-sex marriages and have challenged their state law barring such unions. In Massachusetts, the state's highest court has ruled that a state law falling short of allowing full-fledged marriage for gays would be unconstitutional.

Bush softened his announcement by leaving the door open for states to legalize civil unions, which gay rights groups say is an insufficient alternative to marriage. "The amendment should fully protect marriage while leaving the state legislatures free to make their own choices in defining legal arrangements other than marriage," said Bush, who had opposed legalizing civil unions when he was governor of Texas.

Republican officials said there was no rush to bring an amendment to the floor in the House. Some conservatives want a broader approach than Bush supports, and others oppose federalizing the issue, at least for now.

"The groups that are for a constitutional amendment are split over what it should be," said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas. "We are trying to bring them all together and unify them."

California Republican Reps. David Dreier and Jerry Lewis said a constitutional amendment might not be necessary.

"I will say that I'm not supportive of amending the Constitution on this issue," said Dreier, a co-chairman of Bush's campaign in California in 2000. "I believe that this should go through the courts, and I think that we're at a point where it's not necessary." Lewis said changing the Constitution should be a last resort on almost any issue.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat from San Francisco, said she would fight any amendment. "Never before has a constitutional amendment been used to discriminate against a group of people, and we must not start now," she said.

Amending the Constitution is not quick or simple. A two-thirds majority of both the House and Senate must pass an amendment, and then it would be sent to the states for ratification. It must be approved by three-fourths, or 38 of the 50. Bush's father pressed for a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning but it was not approved.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Bush believes that amendment legislation submitted by Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, R-Colo., meets his principles in protecting the "sanctity of marriage" between men and women. But Bush did not specifically embrace any particular legislation.

Bush's call for a gay-marriage amendment came as the president sought to regain his footing after he was thrown on the defensive about issues ranging from his Vietnam-era military record to missing weapons of mass destruction in Iraq .

"After more than two centuries of American jurisprudence and millennia of human experience, a few judges and local authorities are presuming to change the most fundamental institution of civilization," the president said.

Answering Bush, Kerry said, "All Americans should be concerned when a president who is in political trouble tries to tamper with the Constitution of the United States at the start of his re-election campaign."

"I believe the best way to protect gays and lesbians is through civil unions," Kerry said. "I believe the issue of marriage should be left to the states"

Edwards, campaigning in Georgia, where the state legislature is debating its own ban on gay marriage, said, "I don't personally support gay marriage myself. My position has always been that it's for the states to decide." "

This man and his ideas are very dangerous to this country, this amendment, if introduced, must be stopped and Mr. Bush must be made Former President by this November's election.

Patti

deb
02-24-2004, 06:52 PM
:argh He needs to be out in November....

Deb

Phil in Paris
02-24-2004, 07:07 PM
I hope he will be sent back to his ranch in November !! :mad:

Phil

CenTexLyn
02-24-2004, 07:22 PM
I just add this to the list of reasons he has to go...in my opinion, the primary reason had been to get rid of A$$croft, but this easily serves as a stand-alone reason. You simply don't write discrimination into law and expect it to stand. And don't even get me started on the potential pitfalls of constitutional conventions...that is another whole issue unto itself :grr:

Pammie55us
02-24-2004, 08:23 PM
I agree just one more reason added to my long list of reasons why he should be outta of there....I just don't see how the goverment has any rights what so ever in telling any one who they can marry and be with....If you have a partner in life you should be able to share your benefits from your job and have the same rights that my husband and I do no matter what.......Pam...Matt & Shanes Mom

blueviolet
02-24-2004, 08:36 PM
I would like to make a constitutional amendment to make bush go away to The Haugue where he belongs!!!! He has no morals whatsoever killing innocent people around the world, then having the nerve to insult the love people have for each other. He's just trying to change the subject from the failing economy, the failed "war on terrorism", patriot act, unemployment, lack of affordable education and healthcare. Scapegoat the gays, how convenient of him!!!

Blueviolet
Get him outta here now!!!!

FriscoLady
02-25-2004, 02:34 AM
blueviolet,

I am so relieved to see someone else who feels that he and his cronies should be tried in The Hague.

I am positive he is using this issue amongst many to try to deflect his accountability in this war as well as the ever increasing taking of rights from the American people, as well as, the issues you mentioned.

Linda and I will never seek government sanction for our marriage, we are married in the only place that counts for us - in our hearts and souls. We had our ceremony, on our beloved beach, in front of the only power that matters, God, with our Pastor and friends to witness.

However, we do want to see marriage for same sex couples recognized, for there is so much that is denied us that as couples should be open to us.

He has to be put out of office in the November election.

Patti

Shan & Kev
02-25-2004, 10:31 AM
I cannot believe this twit even has a CHANCE of being re-elected!!
:pissed:

Rainbow
02-25-2004, 03:22 PM
T-shirt slogan........" Somewhere in Texas there's a village missing an idiot. "
Rainbow

Pammie55us
02-26-2004, 05:06 PM
LOL.....I like the t-shirt slogan....I need one .....Pam...Matt & Shanes Mom

California Sunshine
02-28-2004, 12:28 AM
I too hope he is gone in November! Good god please make him go lol

brownshuga27
03-01-2004, 12:03 AM
i hope he dosen't get re-elected either. there has been nothing but trouble since he became president!!! he's going to get us all killed!!

Pammie55us
03-01-2004, 03:30 PM
I think he thought he had to take up where his father left off....I didn't vote for him either....I do vote and I can say what I think....He's a nut case and he needs to go somewhere...anywhere but in our goverment....Pam.....Matt & Shanes Mom

BayJoe
03-02-2004, 11:15 AM
Seriously! Why can't he treat this like his first government job with the Texas Air National Guard and GO AWOL!!!