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tebkrg
02-18-2004, 03:47 PM
http://www.aclu.org/LesbianGayRights/LesbianGayRights.cfm?ID=14492&c=41

ACLU Appears Before Kansas Appeals Court on Behalf of Youth Serving 15 Additional Years in Prison Because He is Gay


December 2, 2003




FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

TOPEKA, KS - Appearing before the Kansas Court of Appeals today, the American Civil Liberties Union urged the court to follow the U.S. Supreme Court’s recent gay rights case, Lawrence v. Texas, and reduce the sentence of a young man serving an additional 15 years in prison solely because he is gay. The case was sent back to the Kansas court for reconsideration by the Supreme Court immediately following its decision in Lawrence this past June.

"The Supreme Court made it very clear that you can no longer punish someone differently for being gay," said Tamara Lange, a staff attorney with the ACLU’s Lesbian & Gay Rights Project. "Yet Matthew Limon continues to sit in jail because when he was a teenager he had consensual sex with another male rather than a female. It is time for the Kansas ‘Romeo and Juliet’ law to be applied to Romeos and Romeos as well."

Matthew Limon is appealing a 206-month prison sentence he received shortly after turning 18 because while he was a resident at a private school for developmentally disabled youth he performed consensual oral sex on another teenager. Limon would have served a maximum of 15 months in jail under the Kansas law had the other teenager been female. But because the "Romeo and Juliet" law applies only to heterosexuals, Limon was convicted under the much harsher state sodomy law.

Under the Kansas law, consensual sex between two teens is a lesser crime if the younger teenager is 14 to 16 years old, if the older teenager is under 19, if the age difference is less than four years, if there are no third parties involved, and if the two teenagers "are members of the opposite sex."

According to the ACLU, the Kansas "Romeo and Juliet" law is similar to the Texas law the U.S. Supreme Court struck down in June in its historic decision in Lawrence v. Texas because the Kansas law treats the sexual conduct of lesbian and gay people differently. The day after its decision in the Texas case, the U.S. Supreme Court vacated Limon’s conviction and instructed the Kansas Court of Appeals to give it further consideration in light of its ruling on sexual intimacy in Lawrence.

Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline has chosen to vigorously defend the law in the press and in court. In his brief, Kline makes several outrageous arguments, among them that the state should be able to punish gay teenagers more harshly under the "Romeo and Juliet" law because doing so would encourage heterosexual teenagers to marry. Kline also asserts that the discrimination is constitutional because it encourages unmarried teens to get pregnant. In statements to the press, Kline has said that changing the law would lead to bestiality and the destruction of marriage.

"Contrary to Attorney General Phill Kline’s many efforts to confuse the real issues behind this case, we’re not saying the state shouldn’t protect teens or punish those who break the law. We are only asking that the state treat gay teens the same as it does straight teens," said Dick Kurtenbach, Executive Director of the ACLU of Kansas and Western Missouri. "Matthew Limon isn’t asking for a get-out-of-jail free card - he’s saying he should have been convicted and punished - under the Romeo and Juliet law."


Additional information about the case is available at http://www.aclu.org/LesbianGayRights/LesbianGayRights.cfm?ID=14476&c=41

deb
02-18-2004, 03:53 PM
How awful that today we still discriminate to this extent and big mouths like this can spread their prejudice beliefs and hatred.... I hope this is overturned and the law changed very soon....

Deb

Phil in Paris
02-18-2004, 04:16 PM
Does this take place in the USA, the so called "Land of the Free" ????? :mad:

What I don't even understand is why 2 teens, straight or gay, having consensual sex have to be sent to prison !!!! Hello Middle Ages !!!!! :mad:

All this is just plain crazy !!!!!!!

Phil :mad:

deb
02-18-2004, 04:23 PM
I agree Phil...

Deb

tebkrg
02-18-2004, 06:50 PM
Phil - at the risk of starting a firestorm here...

Sodomy laws are in place in most states. Most states do not enforce them EXCEPT in the case of gay men. This is a means of putting gay men in prison and give a thrill to a local sheriff or prosecutor that are backwoods and bigoted in their thinking. The 'couple' do not even have to be actually caught in the act of sodomy to utilize these laws that loosely translate to 'sex between two consentual adults if they are of the same sex is sodomy'.

Slainte
02-18-2004, 06:50 PM
Stuff like this makes me want to SCREAM!!!! Grrrrrr.........

tebkrg
02-18-2004, 06:51 PM
Check out this thread that I posted - and really look at the states that not only list sodomy as an illegal activity but are actually still using these laws to TARGET gay men.


http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47312

NEWT
07-16-2004, 04:28 AM
Hey Phil,hate 2 Say It But In The Land Of The Free,i Beleive It's Worse.my Daughter Got Life With-out For Being Gay At The Age Of 23.she's Been Down Now Ten Years.has An Avm On Her Brain Stem,here In West Virginia,usa.they Say It's Under Control But That's The Comish Over Prisons.her Docs Say Different.but God Gets Us Through.yes ,he's Here For All Of Us.oh,by The Way A Drug Dealer Got Killed.that's Why She Spends The Rest Of Her Life There

Voyager
10-29-2005, 10:14 AM
Just thought you might be interested to know that the Kansas Supreme Court reversed the Court of Appeals decision this week. The Court ruled that the law was unconstitutional as applied to same sex relationships given the holding of the US Supreme Court in <i>Lawrence v. Texas</i>. Great news!

Phil in Paris
10-29-2005, 10:56 AM
Wow tha's great, thanks for sharing Voyager. :)

Phil