B is on Ad. Seg and has asked me if there is any kind of information on how to present his case best way possible when he's up for parole review. He has done what he CAN do to get back to general population, but the waiting list for the program he needs is long. I know his chance of making parole is small since he's in Ad. Seg and I know he knows it too. He was denied parole in 2002 and his next eligible date is October 2004. I don't know what to tell him, so if anyone has any info at all it would be appreciated. Maybe you know someone who was in Ad. Seg that made parole? Maybe you know someone who didn't make it and why?
I have sent him all the "ordinary" parole information I have found such as the board's point system, what his supporters should write and NOT write when they address the board and so forth. So - if anyone has some spesific info on parole issues for Ad. Seg prisoners feel free to tell me alllllllllllll about it. :p

I hear you ABP. I am needing the same info. M goes up in 2006 and has been in Seg since uh... wow. LONG TIME. AND hes really hoping that all will go well then but... Like you said ABP that chances are slim. AND I Don't want to dash his hopes??? Please someone help out here.
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Much of a presentation when someone is in AdSeg will focus on what they did to get to seg (ie. disciplinary history or gang affiliation). In some instances, people got seg'ed on an escape attempt, and even if they have no further problems, the current policy basically keeps them in seg for 10 years.

The problems with seg cases is that you have to focus on two issues instead of just one...ordinarily, you can focus on the criminal history and what steps need to be taken going forward. In the case of a seg inmate, though, there is also the issue of having violated rules while incarcerated (some of which may have involved institutional violence), which raises red flags for the ability to follow the rules in the community.

Thank you CenTexLyn. So basically all that can be done is to try to show the board members that the Ad Seg priosoner has been rehabilitated enough to meet the demands of the outside community, that he feels remorse and take responsebility and has done what CAN be done about improving his situation and follow the 'rules of the land'.

ABP, that is one part of what must be shown in a presentation. Every case reviewed by the Board is looking at risk factors. Being in AdSeg places someone at a higher risk level because you don't get to AdSeg by singing in church too loudly on Sunday...and the prevailing thought is that if you can't follow the rules inside, why should one think they will be followed outside.

Evaluate the current level of Security Detention and contrast that with the initial placement. Go into detail about every disciplinary case and the length of time that has passed since the last case. If the seg placement is because of gang activity, then it is almost a necessity that you be able to demonstrate when placement in the GRAD program was made. If someone is active in a Security Threat Group and is not making an attempt to get out, then they probably better plan on discharging their sentence.

You absolutely have to analyze behavior inside and outside. Allred cases are voted in Gatesville, and you have two members up there right now that have federal backgrounds. They want to see significant insight into what is going on. They will approve releases from seg, but it takes some convincing. I've consulted on cases with stacked sentences where the conduct that got someone in seg was also the case that was stacked, and in both instances, parole was approved.

Being in AdSeg places someone at a higher risk level because you don't get to AdSeg by singing in church too loudly on Sunday..[B]

Hehehe - CenTexLyn.

My Son was in on a ten year sentence. After four years of being in general population, and having to fight for his life, and manhood, he was sent to AD SEG. After three and one half years in AD SEG., He was also denied parole.When he caught up to his projective release date,He finally got to come home. It was a long time, a lot of years lost, but my Son is adjusting really well. BUT... It takes a lot of family support!! If inmates could get their good time back, a lot more people would be coming home.

evader - that is what's so sad. Prison is a dangerous place and inmates are often faced with decisions they should not have to make. Prison should NOT be a place where they have to defend themselves like your son had to. Prisons should not be the way they were so that B's life got even more messed up. It is easy to say KEEP OUT of trouble, but what if trouble follows you around? What if trouble threates to kill you? What if terror is what you have to deal with EVERY day because you want to stay out of trouble? What choice do they have? Run to the COs?? That would get them killed for snitching... So... what options do they have when trouble won't leave them alone??

Yes, prison is a whole different world,just never give up faith and hope, because one day they have to let them out. If they get your full support from the outside while in prison,they will make it in the free world. Prison does not rehabilitate.You learn alot about the law and the dept. of criminal justice ,when your loved one is sent to prison.Especially when they are wrongfully convicted.

This is soo sad..I can't give up on my baby...not with all this negativity going around..

I don't know if having to deal with an upcoming parole date or the projected is worse...
2017 if I have to... all the way. TDCJ can uh.. Never mind...
Im with him for the long haul..
Hugs..

Just to let you know,my husad is in ad seg and has been there for 7 years for gang affiliation. He is up for parole again in Feb. 2006 and I have talked with many parole lawyers and each one has said ad seg rarely gets out on parole anymoe. Some lawyers won't even take on ad. seg cases anymore. My husband is also on the waiting list to get into the GRAD program and they said that even if they are on waiting list that is better than being on nothing at all to get into population. At least looks good for the board. Good luck!!!!!

Okay.. I have a question similar to this. I know I posted in this forum before. However I didnt post this information!! But my boo is in Ad Seg and will be till he is released. Gang affiliation also, soooo.. in our last letter he says that in 2006 he is going up for Parole which I knew, but he also said that since he is from originally Mexico that he has a good chance to make it out and be paroled to Mexico. how does this work? And what would his chances be to get paroled out and sent to Mexico. He has done 8 years now, and this is his first parole hearing?! not sure if thats right. But what are the chances even on Ad Seg that he gets paroled out and Texas rids Texas of him forever? (they say) He has high hopes that it will happen, and Im not trying to bring him down. But I guess In my heart I need to know if this is a possibility?
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I am sorry to say this but I doubt that he will get outon his first parole hearing being that he is in Ad. seg. From what I have gotten it does not matter i he will be going back to Mexco or not, he is in ad. seg for gang related stuff and that is the hardest to get out on parole. Sorry but that is just what I have gotten from everything.

The INS detainer is admittedly a bigger factor with Mexican nationals because of the high percentages of persons paroled to the detainer that later returned to the US only to be re-arrested.

There is a new vote that will be coming into play in the very near future that may increase slightly the parole rates coming out of AdSeg. It would be another rehabilitation-tier program. I'm not sure how frequently it will be used on those that have not attempted to disassociate from the security threat groups though...

I know he is not an active gang member. But foolish to have been. :( this is sad, but I guess thats how it works. I have to pray that he will be able to see the light of outside one of these days. :(( thanks for the info