okay...i dont know if this thread goes here....but i've been watching the rhianna/chris brown domestic violence case in the news closely, and it seems that no one (not 1 celebrity) is standing up and saying that what chris brown did was wrong! i mean...are they that concerened about their image that they wont vocalize their opinion?
i like rhianna (bless her), shes young, we are only 1 year apart in age and we kinda have the same fashion sense. my boyfriend (now ex) beat me up pretty bad last month and now here's rhianna going through the same experience...its like deja vu! i've been so torn over what to do in my situation because i love him and we've been together for 3 years. i ask myself should i stay/leave, talk to him, or just completely cut him out my life? i know fasho that me and rhianna are both gonna need counseling...the healing is a process that doesnt come easily.

i'm kinda looking to rhianna to see what she's gonna do, because the actions that she takes will influence a generation of girls that look up to and idolize her...not to mention the young men who watch chris brown. i know this is a very important moment in her life because it will define what kind of woman she is, wants to be, and the type of message she wants to send to the world. it must be so much more overwhelming for her though because its all in the news and everyone is looking to her to see what she gonna do...i know she's torn between following her heart and leaving him and following the law. i know what she's going through and to see those pictures of her face and hear the reports, it makes me sick and sad. i want to tell her that she needs to leave that boy alone and do her own thing, but how can i when i cant even take that same action myself.

...and now i see the implications of the media attention to her situation. for example: my ex said to me..."look it happens to everyone, even celebrities". and i said "just because it happens to alot of people including celebrities doesnt make it ok...you act like its an everyday occurrence...like its a normal part of a relationship."
i would like to open this topic up to everyones opinion and welcome any feedback on the implications of her decision on present and future generations of young adults.

-Jam

First of all, I'm sorry that your man put his hands on you. I can't speak on this. I don't know how it is for a man to lay hands on me. I can't say if I would stay or leave. I know my family would rip him to pieces. That's besides the point. I feel bad for Rihanna... I will keep her in my prayers... That's all I can do...

From the pics of her, she got hurt! Whether anyone else gets publicly upset about that is their problem, and what she does is up to her. What YOU do is not follow a celebrity, regardless of the situation.

Think of all the things your guy could have said -"OMG, that's what you had to go through!" "Oh hell, he's as f'd up as I am" What was he thinking?!" "Holy cow, I'm so sorry anyone has to go through that" Oh sh**, I'm so sorry I put you through that!"

Nope. He said - "See? Other people do it too." That's a pretty good sign that things aren't gong to change with him. Very, very bad sign for you. Turn your heart cold, hon. You are very young and this is very scarring. You will carry the fear, the anxiety, the doubt about yourself far longer if you let it happen to you again. You will lessen your chances that you can ever trust anyone else, you will start to believe you aren't lovable.

But, you're young enough to bounce back. Harden your heart, chill the lust (at least it was with me at your age) and allow yourself to walk. Regardless of what Rhianna does. If she makes a mistake, you can't afford to follow her over the cliff.

OK- We all know what Rhianna should do (And what Whitney Houston should've done ages ago)- press charges, cooperate fully with the prosecution and tell any pushy reporters that no one deserves to be assaulted, especially by someone they're supposed to be able to trust, and that she hopes that her experiences can offer something good to other women who might find themselves in similar situations and that beyond that, she'd appreciate a little respect for her privacy on this painful matter..... but whatever some celebrity chooses to do does not change what is sensible... and you're right to feel that your ex's reaction was not a good sign... He sees the situation as "permission" to act a fool.... you don't need that.... and btw, why are you still having substantial conversations with him? Remember that alley? Dude could've killed you- you don't owe him friendship, you don't owe him anything but a last look at your backside getting smaller as you walk away.... The longer you keep ties to him, the harder it will be to sever those ties and the longer it will take you to begin healing... Honest.

I think a number of celebrities did come out and condemn what Chris Brown did. On the way to work, I heard that the prosecutor was trying to press for 2nd degree murder charges. I think that is way too harsh. I don't want to see his life thrown away because of this.

i thought he just threatened to kill her.( i don't mean "just", i'd walk no matter how much i loved someone) but i didn't know he beat her up. but pb you need to run. why are you even conversing with the man who put his hands on you??? you may love him but he certainly doesn't love you.(or he just has a funny way of showing it.)

Since no one is dead, there's no way to seek murder charges, but if the reports are accurate,Domestic Assault, felony assault, assault with intent to do great bodily injury,assault resulting in bodily injury, mayhem and possibly attempted murder all sound like viable possible charges.... he apparently choked her into unconsciousness in addition to hitting her.

Oh... today is her 21st Birthday, BTW

violence is unacceptable i feel sorry for the both of them they are both the victims of a viscous cycle if they dont put an end to it now and get the neccessary professional help they need

Honestly, I am angry about the whole situation. The bruised and battered picture shows up, and the police dept. gets all in a hoopla about it being "leaked"---- yet they still have not turned over evidence to the DA so they can charge him with assault, battery, whatever you would call what he did to her WITH THE INTENT TO HURT HER. I have a man sitting in jail on a second strike JUST for pushing me out of the way and I did not get hurt-it was the first "altercation" we ever had and it was a horrible mistake after getting drunk. My point is, what more evidence do they need to charge him and put him in jail? Because it's a high profile case, they have to "be careful". Because he has money to use the finest lawyers, he may get off. This is not justice. Poor Rihanna.

Something nagged at me about what P&J's ex said..."......"look it happens to everyone, even celebrities".".... It happens? As if those bruises and the abrasions and swelling just magically "appeared"?
I am always bothered by the passive voice, especially in matters of DV- The passive voice is a cop out... Domestic Violence doesn't "happen".... People commit violent acts against their partners and there is a world of difference between saying "It happened" and "I did that".... one is a nifty little avoidance, the other acknowleges responsibility.

He choked her into unconsciousness? Where did you get details? I haven't seen any. Le Beau, I have always felt that way when one of my penpals says "I caught a case".

I don't know any details about this case and those sure make a difference. I guess part of me has mixed emotions. My ex grabbed me with our 18 month old in my arms as I was leaving to go to my birthday dinner at my sisters, and pushed me against the porch door and choked me. Why? He felt like he wanted to spend time with daughter. He let go and left. I called the police. I was crying. I said "I want him arrested!" and they said "Ma'am, why are you crying? He isn't choking you now" and they didn't do a darn thing. I took the next day off to go get an order of protection against him. The detective saw bruises on my neck and could not understand why the responding cops did nothing.

I'm so glad things have changed but I don't want it too harsh. I just see crazy stories on TV of arrests for DV. I would like to see some action come from this that would help him, not hurt him.

Something nagged at me about what P&J's ex said..."......"look it happens to everyone, even celebrities".".... It happens? As if those bruises and the abrasions and swelling just magically "appeared"?
I am always bothered by the passive voice, especially in matters of DV- The passive voice is a cop out... Domestic Violence doesn't "happen".... People commit violent acts against their partners and there is a world of difference between saying "It happened" and "I did that".... one is a nifty little avoidance, the other acknowleges responsibility.
i so agree. so many times what people call mistakes are very conscious choices.(and i'm not just talking about dv.)

domestic violence is domestic violence.... regardless of the popularity of the person.

I googled her name and clicked the news tab.
Some reports are inconsistant but according to several, the choking is a part of the police reports and it is consistant with the swelling visible on her neck in the one available valid photograph.... because she's a woman of colour, it's harder to judge the severity of the bruising but the abrasions and swelling speak volumes.

domestic violence is domestic violence.... regardless of the popularity of the person.

I so agree with your statement Kyle's Gurl...I pray the focus remains on DV and not just on Rhianna "The Star"...I am glad that it is being openly discussed in a manner that is grabbing the attention of some of the younger members of society; I am praying for both of these young singers...Marcia

I as like many am against violence of any kind, but i can't shed an opinion on something that i don't know all the facts on, cause there are many stories behind this incident.

As far as ppl not condeming him Jay-z has, and he says that ppl should think of this situation as if it was your mother or sister. He has been all over saying how upset he is about what has happened to his protege Rihanna. He feels that everyone should shut Chris Brown out and basically he should fade in to obscurity. To me he has a right to his opinion then again he doesn't cause in 2001 he hit a female so hard on video it looked like her neck might break.

Honestly I dont see why everyone is making such a big deal bout it. IT has nothing to do with us- it is their situation and only they can handle it- whats a shame to me is that regardless of the crime when you become famous its like everybody wanna make it they business. Why not spend less time focusen on everyone else and their problems and focus a little more on our own.

Honestly I dont see why everyone is making such a big deal bout it. IT has nothing to do with us- it is their situation and only they can handle it- whats a shame to me is that regardless of the crime when you become famous its like everybody wanna make it they business. Why not spend less time focusen on everyone else and their problems and focus a little more on our own.

exactly what i am talking about, the only ppl who know what is going on is those two. Its just like when something happens between our loved ones and us only we know what is going on. As no situation is ever the same, as the ppl are always different. Domestic violence happens every day but many don't discuss the ones we see every day. Everyone has to remember that celebs are no different than an average person except they are in the spot light. Just because they are famous is the only reason its "playing" out in the papers.

NO, sorry, I totally disagree that it's just about them. The fact that they're young doesn't cancel the fact that they are public figures and as such (just as peanut was saying at the beginning of this thread) draw interest and followers. And this is a teachable moment! This is when young women can see what happens, what the responsibilities are, and how ugly domestic violence is.

Not knowing the particulars of their individual case doesn't change squat, either. Even if she had tormented him into towering anger, it is still his responsibility to WALK AWAY, not to lay hands on her violently. And if he wasn't tormented by her, even more reason that he should walk away. And if he had some imaginary reason, knowable only to him, he still should have walked away!

He knew he had a history in his family of violence. He had spoken of not wanting to be like that. Poof! He's like that,because he didn't do anything NOT to be like that. He's not immune, no matter how much money he's making, to needing help to avoid personal violence. And I'll bet this isn't the first time he's been abusive, even if the prior times have been verbal and this was his first actual battery.

That's everybody's business. Any domestic violence is. Everywhere. At all times. If you see it, name it.

I noticed what the other celebraties are doing as most are saying no comment. How they can just turn their heads is beyond me. No man should ever beat a woman let alone do the damage he did to her> I can care if she's famous or not. She's still just a regular person. That said, I think it's pretty sh**ty that someone obviously made money off the poor girls bruising, etc. Also, it's not just the phsyical abuse that gets me bent. Do you know what someone goes thru mentally after that? As for Chris Brown he needs a foot up his a**. How do you do something like that to a person you supposedly love?

joe

It IS our business because, wisely or not, a great many young people see celebrities as role models, as people that look up to and want to emulate.

This incident took place in public and, right or wrong, this young woman IS a public figure- Her actions will have a depressing amount of influence on the views of her young fans... If Brown gets off scott free and she takes him back, that is certainly her right, but it WILL cause DV to be seen as "normal" by a larger margin within her and Brown's fan base... a group, statistically, already at great risk due to youth, city-centered population base, and a cultural taboo against involving the authorities in one's problems.

It IS our business because, wisely or not, a great many young people see celebrities as role models, as people that look up to and want to emulate.

This incident took place in public and, right or wrong, this young woman IS a public figure- Her actions will have a depressing amount of influence on the views of her young fans... If Brown gets off scott free and she takes him back, that is certainly her right, but it WILL cause DV to be seen as "normal" by a larger margin within her and Brown's fan base... a group, statistically, already at great risk due to youth, city-centered population base, and a cultural taboo against involving the authorities in one's problems.
i agree. young kids look up to these people and i'm sorry but when you're famous you're gonna be in the public eye.my middle daughter looks up to those two and never would i want her to think it's normal or ok.

Do you know what someone goes thru mentally after that?

Sorry, but that has me rolling.... sick and wrong, but....

Joey- Don't take this the wrong way, Man, but do you KNOW which forum you're in?;)
Yeah... we know, Darlin'....:cool:

i agree. young kids look up to these people and i'm sorry but when you're famous you're gonna be in the public eye.my middle daughter looks up to those two and never would i want her to think it's normal or ok.

Have you been talking to her about this? Sad to say, this offers a great teaching/communicating opportunity... I plan to be discussing it with my 15 year old niece very soon.

Have you been talking to her about this? Sad to say, this offers a great teaching/communicating opportunity... I plan to be discussing it with my 15 year old niece very soon.
last night she asked me about it but i was sick with the stomach flu and wasn't in the mood to talk to her about anything. i do need to, though. and i will.

whatever happened to the d.a. taking over whether the victim of domestic violence wants to press charges or not? i thought this was automatic now especially with obvious signs of abuse? i don't care if he is the president of the united states, abuse is abuse. her face was all messed up.

Have you been talking to her about this? Sad to say, this offers a great teaching/communicating opportunity... I plan to be discussing it with my 15 year old niece very soon.

Exactly my point! I took the story as an opportunity to discuss DV with my 10 year old son Kacey for the first time, IN DEPTH! I don't know what story he'd heard but as we watched TV reports together his comment to me was "She must have made him REAL mad, they said she snatched his cell phone." IMO if he's old enough to rationalize this behavior then I'm late in my teaching. We've had some long discussions and I gave his Dad a call and a heads up that he too needs to engage KC in some conversations during his visit next week so he can get the MALE perspective. Our youngsters have to be taught and taught early. If not for all the recent media attention I doubt if I would have initiated this talk or even been made aware of my son's thoughts on the subject. Chris Brown is someone he really likes from a music standpoint and that's fine. I need him to know that no man, no matter how nice, talented, rich, famous etc. should put his hands on anyone in anger for ANY reason. For that reason I will continue to follow this story closely...Marcia

I feel so bad for Rhianna, no one deserves to be abused. I am sure he was horrible to her when they were behind closed doors with no one to see. I cant believe that other celebrities arent standing up for this girl, it shows me that society accepts this kind of thing. It is not normal by any means for anyone to hurt another human being. Its especially not normal for a man to tell you he loves you, while you wait for him to hit you again for any stupid reason he dreams up or because of drugs or alcohol. Chris Brown needs to be banned, shunned, left out in the cold, what ever, he deserves it. I really get annoyed with programs for abusive men to change, those are all hog wash, these men cant change, they only go to "school" to learn how to be a better abuser from other abusers. Anger Management cant help an individual with a pshycological disorder such as these men have, they are sociopaths / psychopaths with an inability to love anyone including themselves!

Even if she had tormented him into towering anger, it is still his responsibility to WALK AWAY, not to lay hands on her violently.


And even if she did lay hands on him first along with tormenting him,he should have walked away and be done with her. There is no excuse for this hitting a woman. Sad to say that both of them are role models to a lot of young people which a lot of them never learned any problem solving skills and what both of them do from here on out with this situation could have an affect.

You and I part company on that one, Imani. Women can be every bit as assaultive and vicious as men. No man deserves hands laid on him either!

True,that men should not be abused either. Some women are just as abusive and vicious as men. In that case neither one of them has learned any problems solving skills which ever the case it may be.

No one, male, female or any variant thereon, deserves to be treated violently or abusively by anyone, least of all, their romantic partner.

~I think he should deffinatly have to deal with charges and the same things any other non-famous person would have to~~~If he gets away with this then all that is doing is sending a message to not only all the young guys out there, but the girl's as well that if you are famous the rules do not apply to you anf that you can get away with whatever you want~~~And that's messed up~

I feel sorry for them both, being it's hard to believe what really went on, none of us were there so we don't know. I hurt for Rihanna a lot, I think everyone should leave both of them alone to be quite honest about it. I hate how the media handles situations like this. I would hate to be going through whatever she is going through, having everyone talking about it, your picture everywhere, and so on. I wish people would just let them handle it in private!

wrong is wrong, No matter how you are raised you have to break the cycle. LIke the other post say, if he is hitting you he obviousely doesn't love you. You can love him from afar. So he would have to go.

Chaotic, everybody talks, whether you're a public figure or a private one. People usually know . . . and if this is handled right, in public, then a lot of young kids both male and female, will learn an extremely valuable lesson.

No one, male, female or any variant thereon, deserves to be treated violently or abusively by anyone, least of all, their romantic partner.

And to be perfectly clear- No one, male, female or any variant thereon has any right to lay unkind hands on or otherwise abuse anyone, least of all, their romantic partner.

Chaotic, everybody talks, whether you're a public figure or a private one. People usually know . . . and if this is handled right, in public, then a lot of young kids both male and female, will learn an extremely valuable lesson.

Oh I completely agree! I wasn't trying to imply that I'm one of the few that "doesn't talk".. But I was just trying to get across that some things like this, the way the media/websites/so on carry on on THIS particular subject (especially with Rihanna and Chris), it's kind of crazy. I think that young people, kids, can learn a very valuable lesson from such events.. But certain media types make fun of it, constantly lie about it (even when the truth has been made known)... It can really get blown out of proportion. I don't know, I just have my own li'l beliefs about celebrities' lives... I don't know... *runs around, mumbling* :confused: :lol:

I don't remember what day it was on, but I was watching Oprah several days ago and it was being discussed and they (don't remember the names of the other starts that were there) were absolutely against what Chris Brown did to Rhianna. The one thing that I do remember them saying was what a great guy he seemed to be and how it was hard to believe that he would do such a thing! They also were talking about the rumor that Rhianna was going to go back with him to "help and support" him. They said that they hoped that she wouldn't because of the message that it sends out to the public, especially the young girls, that what he did was alright! They also talked about how typical it is in these cases. (We know that one) Rhianna was swollen, bruised and had bite marks on her. It was horrible seeing those pictures. Just wanted to post this info.

IF Rihanna chooses to go back to Chris Brown it is entirely on her, to be honest who are we to judge- a lot of woman have gone back to dv relationsips- or even are in relationship with a DV offender.

I am not condoning what happened, nor am i saying everyone who does it wont do it again- but if she chooses to find out, then hey its on her.

I feel sorry for both of them. We have all heard differant rumors about what went on that night and what went on in that relationship. I try to look at things from all sides. I am aware of two situations one where a female realative has a bf that hits her whenever he sees fit and has even hit her daughter when she tried to help her. She has gotten protection order but she forgives him and allows him back. I have male family member that has a women that hits him whenever things aren't going her way. If she is arguing and he tries to calm her down or walk away she things ok I will hit him. They are no longer a couple but she is the mother of his child. They are both young. He wont call the police because she is the mother of his child. To date he hasn't hit her back but I fear that one day he might. Usually these arguements happen when he goes to pickup his son,and she decides not to let him. I have advised him to stay away but he says he can't stay away from his son. I don't understand her,she uses the fact that he was raised not to hit women,and the knowledge that he loves his son,and distrust the system (law) against him. I have seen her be happy one minute and as soon as he doesn't do what she wants she flips and becomes a sullen disagreeable little girl. When I saw Rihanna's,face I saw this girls face,my fear that one day she is going to push the wrong button and he is going to loose his self control and hit her back.

Sorry, but that has me rolling.... sick and wrong, but....

Joey- Don't take this the wrong way, Man, but do you KNOW which forum you're in?;)
Yeah... we know, Darlin'....:cool:


You know me, My sex doesn't matter and I absolutely HATE guys who treat women badly. Now if you want to give me a kick in the rump and send me on my way, I'll understand. Believe it or not, because of the way I am, I actually have more girls as friends than guys. Some of the stuff I've been told in confidence has educated me to say the least and male or not, I've blushed many times from what I've heard- LOL.

joe

I was not hassling you about your gender, I was teasing about you asking that one question IN THIS FORUM ...Yeah, we DO know what a person goes through after an incident like that.

Apparently Rihanna and Chris Brown are back together again. He is eating humble pie (so to speak) to make up.
Brown, 19, has been lavishing Rhianna with jewels, designer shoes, a handbag and the video game "Guitar Hero" in an effort to make up.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/02/27/2009-02-27_report_rihanna__chris_brown_back_togethe.html


Brown issued a statement Feb. 15 saying he was "sorry and saddened" about the incident and was seeking counseling.


Hopefully he learned from the incident and not let anything like that happen again. It will be a healing process for the both of them.

Goodie...I'm not gonna be at all impressed until he starts doing a series of public service announcements (NOT ordered by the courts) admitting his full responsibility and condemning DV.

I agree with you on that totally LeBeau

Goodie...I'm not gonna be at all impressed until he starts doing a series of public service announcements (NOT ordered by the courts) admitting his full responsibility and condemning DV.

I would agree - but money talks and BS walks so!!

i don't understand how they are back together. wouldn't the judge have put a N/C order in place??? hasn't he been charged? i thought he was charged. if he was then he would have had an arraignment and that is when the orders are usually issued.

With information being leaked that was considered police evidence they are not even sure how much of a case they have left.
Either way it is what it is they a re publicly known to be back together now, so what can we do you know- they are showing the world that you can attempt to work past something like this if you want.
Will it work out? Will it happen again? Only God knows..

This dude Chris Brown reminds me of OJ

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/local/Police_Documents_on_Chris_Browns_Alleged_Assault_2 0090305

Listening to that made me go cold . . .

I as like many am against violence of any kind, but i can't shed an opinion on something that i don't know all the facts on, cause there are many stories behind this incident.

As far as ppl not condeming him Jay-z has, and he says that ppl should think of this situation as if it was your mother or sister. He has been all over saying how upset he is about what has happened to his protege Rihanna. He feels that everyone should shut Chris Brown out and basically he should fade in to obscurity. To me he has a right to his opinion then again he doesn't cause in 2001 he hit a female so hard on video it looked like her neck might break.

Where the heck did you hear Jayz hit someone?

exactly a week before the "chris brown rihanna case" i was involved in demstic violence and when i heard about her. it just broke my heart that nobody stood up for her. chris was in booking only 45min. they let him go. and everyone hoped "they were both okay" like what kind of crap is that. he hit her. how was he not okay.?!?!?!?!? what chris did, i will never forgive him for. all my family & friends stood up for me. all their collegues didnt stand up for her.and now that they got back together i feel sorry for her, shes young and shes making a mistake. i would never have gotten back with him. even if i wasnt riahnna and he was chris brown because i dont care who you are, you have no right to touch me, if my daddy who fed me and clothed me all my life never touched me, what in the world gives a "boyfriend" the right to hit me!

thank you everyone for posting your comments and opinions on this situation! i reall enjoyed reading everything and many of you make good points. after i first posted this thread, i stopped watching updates on it, cuz i have my own shit to deal with. however i did hear that they are back together too. i was just discussing with my friend last night about how i havent seen or heard any statement from her. i know its not our business to pass judgment on her getting back together with him or the whole picture thing, but i think as a person who is in the worlds limelight and is being examined under a microscope, she could have atleast said something!

im only saying this because not saying something is making a statement also. and i dont want young women looking at her and thinking its okay for a man to hit her and its ok to go back to him like nothing happened or not tell someone what happened, and i dont want young men taking their cues from chris b. thinking that its okay for him to hit a girl. young people already have enough bullshit to filter thru without this. i think she should have issued some kind of statement or gone on tv and said something to the effects of "dv is never okay and although im getting back together with my man dont take it as a cue that its oaky for a man to hit you cuz its not and in many cases it can be serious and deadly. if u know u or someone you know is being abused please tell someone so u can get help." or something like that.

i dunno...it just bothers me that she hasnt said anything...i know how she feels...but still...i think she should stand up and say something. also, like many of you, im using this media frenzy as a chance to talk to my younger brother about what happened to me and whats happening on tv. i wanted to get his thoughts on the situation and let him know thats its not ok for him to hit a women and vice versa and if he feels like he's going to, he needs to walk away to avoid making a serious mistake.

-jam

[QUOTE=canthelpbutwait;4476145- they are showing the world that you can attempt to work past something like this if you want.
Will it work out? Will it happen again? Only God knows..[/QUOTE]

Wow girl your posts in this thread reply bother me. You can work it out if you want? The point her should be that you should not WANT to "work things out" with an abuser. It doesn't make you a better woman to try and stick it out and that is kinds what I get from your posts.

Have you been in a violent relationship?

Search Warrent And Affidavit
http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2009-03/45412681.pdf

No one is fighting for Rihanna herself nor her parents. Her dad said after the incident "What ever makes her happy" I think those were his words after she went back to him. That in itself is very disturbing to me.

If she does not have a no contact order against Brown or testifies against him in court which I don't think she will do. The prosecution has no case. Sad

I know exactly what you mean I was on the same boat as both you and her, I loved him with all of my heart and at times my heart continues to say that I love him. But my mental scars are the worst when I remember him kicking my throat and spiting on my face as I blacked out just finishes destroying both my heart and head.

And to think I would always say that I would never stand for anyone to do something like that to me.

Okay so i just heard on the radio that Chris Brown only got 190 hours of community service and 5 years of probation and he must keep 50 yards away from Rihanna excluding Musical events ( I am going based on what they said in the radio I do not know how certain this might be). Okay I am a bigfan of both artist but I feel that this was not enough! No human being should be treated like Brown did to Rihanna! and all he got was that?

I feel that the outcome was not fare! I mean if this was a Non-Famous or unwealthy person they could have easily gotten atleast 4 years but he gets 190 hours of community services and 5 years probation? That just isn't right!:angry:

What do you guys think? Was this a fare outcome?

Fair? In some senses, but over-all, no I don't think so. It should be handled as any other domestic assault, but at least he has to keep away from her. That, at least, tells me that maybe her family put some sense in her and helped her understand that his behavior was unacceptable.

Chris got what anyone else who did exactly what he did would have got. This was a first offense for him, and there was NO way he was gonna do any jail time on this. I have to say the community service surprised me, nearly excessive. I know people who have been placed on 1 year formal probation for the exact same thing.

Men in prison for beating on women have been doing it for a while, repeatedly getting caught.

My son is in prison on a WAY lesser charge ... two years IN PRISON, NOT jail ... ridiculous.


Okay so i just heard on the radio that Chris Brown only got 190 hours of community service and 5 years of probation and he must keep 50 yards away from Rihanna excluding Musical events ( I am going based on what they said in the radio I do not know how certain this might be). Okay I am a bigfan of both artist but I feel that this was not enough! No human being should be treated like Brown did to Rihanna! and all he got was that?

I feel that the outcome was not fare! I mean if this was a Non-Famous or unwealthy person they could have easily gotten atleast 4 years but he gets 190 hours of community services and 5 years probation? That just isn't right!:angry:

What do you guys think? Was this a fare outcome?

I know exactly what you mean I was on the same boat as both you and her, I loved him with all of my heart and at times my heart continues to say that I love him. But my mental scars are the worst when I remember him kicking my throat and spiting on my face as I blacked out just finishes destroying both my heart and head.

And to think I would always say that I would never stand for anyone to do something like that to me.

Don't be so hard on yourself, I was in that situation as well. I always said, I'd never be "one of them" and ended up as a victim.

Emotional scars take a long time to heal, I've been divorced from my nightmare for over 25 years. He tried to kill me and our son. I still have rare dreams about that bastard.

When I heard this on the radio, I thought the same thing as you. It's not fair. Had this been a normal person with no money and no fame, he would've done jail time. I think he got off way too easy. But this is the society we live in.

No jail time for the rich! Sends a very bad message all the way around. It really was not his first offense. It was his 3rd offense as was pointed out to the judge today, but hey, money, money, money!!!

His butt should have went to jail for beating his so called "Girlfriend"
Its not okay for someone to beat on someone.
Its okay for the rich to get a slap on the wrist, but the people who are less fortunate get sent to prison..
THAT IS WRONG...

His butt should have went to jail for beating his so called "Girlfriend"
Its not okay for someone to beat on someone.
Its okay for the rich to get a slap on the wrist, but the people who are less fortunate get sent to prison..
THAT IS WRONG...

I I agree with one1love money money money..
I also agree with Jorja... He should have gone to jail for being a gf beater. The rich gets off and throws money in every direction, but when it comes to an average joe God forbid.
Whatch that heifer will go back to brown in heartbeat
I have lost all respect for any one of them. what a shame
I also think she should get off the covergirl commercial because of this. I admit she is a very attracting woman, but what kind of example is she setting for the younger audiance? To me its showing its okay for a man to beat on a woman no matter what the circumstances are. Shes the one that didnt want brown to go to jail in the first place. Then they got back together right after. What a joke...
Find a new covergirl for that commerical

Money talks and money buys freedom in America!! Personally, I feel he should have done prison time and been ordered to community service the domestic violence sector.

Money talks and money buys freedom in America!! Personally, I feel he should have done prison time and been ordered to community service the domestic violence sector.
I absolutely agree.

What a joke....Money talks BS walks!