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bren8854 01-11-2009, 03:58 PM My beloved nephew, Doug, was in Yazoo City FCC Low. He had three years left to go on a meth charge (mandatory minimum). He had the absolute most positive attitude. I talked to him on New Year's Day and he told me they had a great Christmas dinner, about a book I sent him that he couldn't wait to finish. On January 5, 2009 I got a call that he had committed suicide that morning. We had his funeral yesterday and I'm in total shock and devastation. I have received two letters from his fellow inmate friends. One expressed his condolences and his sadness. The other told me that my nephew had drank some that day but had caused no trouble (apparently this is very common in prison). They said they came and woke my nephew in the middle of the night and said they were taking him to the special housing unit. The friend said he said "please don't take me there". Further down the unit someone told this friend that Doug fell and as they were taking him away Doug said if you take me there I will kill myself. The guard apparently replied "you ain't no killer". I don't know how often he was checked on but they said that he hung himself. I cannot get first hand information since he has a so-called wife. I spoke with him every week, had his power of attorney, put all of his money in his account and sent him everything that he requested, yet I am not the next of kin. I am so sad and in shock. I never dreamed of this nightmare. I thought the prison sentence was the worse news I could receive but this is too much. I love him and I miss him.
irshnrse 01-11-2009, 05:03 PM I am so sorry for your loss.
joetnymedic 01-11-2009, 05:59 PM i'm so sorry for your loss.
joe
Menia 01-12-2009, 04:04 PM I am so sorry for your loss.
toomanytears08 01-12-2009, 05:19 PM I'm am so sorry for your loss and agony. But as his power of attorney you should be able to find a little more out.
I am very sorry for your loss, I will being praying strength for you and yours.
his_lucky_charm 01-12-2009, 11:04 PM I am so sorry for your loss.
StacysWar030 01-12-2009, 11:09 PM OMG how sad :( I am so sorry you have to feel this awful pain and suffer this tremendous loss.
((((HUGS))))
Stacy
melissaboo 01-12-2009, 11:14 PM this is so sad! i am sorry this happened to you and your family
Oldporkbutt 01-12-2009, 11:14 PM I am so sorry for your loss. Welcome to PTO. Maybe someone will come along on here who can point you in the right direction to get some answers to all your questions. I am feeling really bad for you right now, I can feel your sadness in your post---God Bless, and many hugs to you.
cashndiamondzz 01-12-2009, 11:15 PM so sorry for ur loss. :(
Nanny12 01-12-2009, 11:18 PM OMG What terrible news. I am so sorry to hear this. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Patti
Shush 01-18-2009, 05:27 AM I am really sorry for your lost!
the sad thing is you have not much chance to get information, as like you say you have no power of attorney. maybe you can talk to the chaplain.
the other possibility is to ask those they did send your their condolences (sp?); you could ask them why your nephew could had been so afraid to be send to the hole. but please know, even if they know, they cannot write all things down.
if your nephew has had a longer staying inthe hole before, and this has been a real bad one, his action would make sense: out of fear to have to relive certain things...
I know, itis horrible not to know! it really is!
ADXDUNGEON 01-20-2009, 05:41 PM My beloved nephew, Doug, was in Yazoo City FCC Low. He had three years left to go on a meth charge (mandatory minimum). He had the absolute most positive attitude. I talked to him on New Year's Day and he told me they had a great Christmas dinner, about a book I sent him that he couldn't wait to finish. On January 5, 2009 I got a call that he had committed suicide that morning. We had his funeral yesterday and I'm in total shock and devastation. I have received two letters from his fellow inmate friends. One expressed his condolences and his sadness. The other told me that my nephew had drank some that day but had caused no trouble (apparently this is very common in prison). They said they came and woke my nephew in the middle of the night and said they were taking him to the special housing unit. The friend said he said "please don't take me there". Further down the unit someone told this friend that Doug fell and as they were taking him away Doug said if you take me there I will kill myself. The guard apparently replied "you ain't no killer". I don't know how often he was checked on but they said that he hung himself. I cannot get first hand information since he has a so-called wife. I spoke with him every week, had his power of attorney, put all of his money in his account and sent him everything that he requested, yet I am not the next of kin. I am so sad and in shock. I never dreamed of this nightmare. I thought the prison sentence was the worse news I could receive but this is too much. I love him and I miss him.
Very sorry to hear this.
I'm very surprised he would want to kill himself just for being sent to the hole. Inmates spend YEARS in the hole and he didn't do anything bad so he would've only been there a short time, like a few DAYS. WHY was he sent to the hole?
There are even advantages to the hole as you get room service and more privacy sometimes and protection. It makes NO SENSE at all that he wanted to kill himself for going to the hole since inmates get sent to the hold THOUSANDS of times a day in America.
I am truly sorry for your loss. I feel for you and your family. I cant imagine what your going through, but I myself, have been through something similar in my family, please please stay strong and you will get through this.
lnd110608 01-20-2009, 06:08 PM I am incredibly sorry to hear of your loss. You will be in my thoughts.
mccuneday 01-20-2009, 06:08 PM My prayers are with you and your family. I am so sorry to hear about your loss. We are here for you.
o*c wifey 01-20-2009, 07:14 PM [QUOTE=bren8854;4328714]My beloved nephew, Doug, was in Yazoo City FCC Low. He had three years left to go on a meth charge (mandatory minimum). He had the absolute most positive attitude. I talked to him on New Year's Day and he told me they had a great Christmas dinner, about a book I sent him that he couldn't wait to finish. On January 5, 2009 I got a call that he had committed suicide that morning. We had his funeral yesterday and I'm in total shock and devastation. I have received two letters from his fellow inmate friends. One expressed his condolences and his sadness. The other told me that my nephew had drank some that day but had caused no trouble (apparently this is very common in prison). They said they came and woke my nephew in the middle of the night and said they were taking him to the special housing unit. The friend said he said "please don't take me there". Further down the unit someone told this friend that Doug fell and as they were taking him away Doug said if you take me there I will kill myself. The guard apparently replied "you ain't no killer". I don't know how often he was checked on but they said that he hung himself. I cannot get first hand information since he has a so-called wife. I spoke with him every week, had his power of attorney, put all of his money in his account and sent him everything that he requested, yet I am not the next of kin. I am so sad and in shock. I never dreamed of this nightmare. I thought the prison sentence was the worse news I could receive but this is too much. I love him and I miss him.[QUOTE]
I am so sorry for your loss. My heart and prayers go to you and your family.
My beloved nephew, Doug, was in Yazoo City FCC Low. He had three years left to go on a meth charge (mandatory minimum). He had the absolute most positive attitude. I talked to him on New Year's Day and he told me they had a great Christmas dinner, about a book I sent him that he couldn't wait to finish. On January 5, 2009 I got a call that he had committed suicide that morning. We had his funeral yesterday and I'm in total shock and devastation. I have received two letters from his fellow inmate friends. One expressed his condolences and his sadness. The other told me that my nephew had drank some that day but had caused no trouble (apparently this is very common in prison). They said they came and woke my nephew in the middle of the night and said they were taking him to the special housing unit. The friend said he said "please don't take me there". Further down the unit someone told this friend that Doug fell and as they were taking him away Doug said if you take me there I will kill myself. The guard apparently replied "you ain't no killer". I don't know how often he was checked on but they said that he hung himself. I cannot get first hand information since he has a so-called wife. I spoke with him every week, had his power of attorney, put all of his money in his account and sent him everything that he requested, yet I am not the next of kin. I am so sad and in shock. I never dreamed of this nightmare. I thought the prison sentence was the worse news I could receive but this is too much. I love him and I miss him.
cyndi34 01-23-2009, 09:52 AM All I can say is I will keep you and your family in my prayers.We are all here if you need to talk.{{{HUGS}}}
angelbaby67 01-23-2009, 10:15 AM i am so sorry to hear this..you in my prayers
mlr70 02-06-2009, 12:36 PM My beloved nephew, Doug, was in Yazoo City FCC Low. He had three years left to go on a meth charge (mandatory minimum). He had the absolute most positive attitude. I talked to him on New Year's Day and he told me they had a great Christmas dinner, about a book I sent him that he couldn't wait to finish. On January 5, 2009 I got a call that he had committed suicide that morning. We had his funeral yesterday and I'm in total shock and devastation. I have received two letters from his fellow inmate friends. One expressed his condolences and his sadness. The other told me that my nephew had drank some that day but had caused no trouble (apparently this is very common in prison). They said they came and woke my nephew in the middle of the night and said they were taking him to the special housing unit. The friend said he said "please don't take me there". Further down the unit someone told this friend that Doug fell and as they were taking him away Doug said if you take me there I will kill myself. The guard apparently replied "you ain't no killer". I don't know how often he was checked on but they said that he hung himself. I cannot get first hand information since he has a so-called wife. I spoke with him every week, had his power of attorney, put all of his money in his account and sent him everything that he requested, yet I am not the next of kin. I am so sad and in shock. I never dreamed of this nightmare. I thought the prison sentence was the worse news I could receive but this is too much. I love him and I miss him.How is his so called wife doing? Is she going to get down to the bottom of what happened?
mrscede 02-06-2009, 12:39 PM im so sorry to hear of your loss.
DaveMoff 02-07-2009, 02:03 PM Thoughts and prayers to all concerned.
MrsVC 02-10-2009, 04:55 PM I'm very sorry for Your loss. May he R I P, he no longer has to fight his demons, he is now at peace.
canthelpbutwait 02-12-2009, 07:25 PM I am sorry for your loss
may God bless his soul forever and ever
you and yours are in my prayers
only1love 02-14-2009, 12:27 AM I am so sorry for your loss. I don't know how to help you get the information that you seek other than what you can get from the other inmates.
tinkerbell_jen 02-18-2009, 10:40 AM Im so sorry for your loss :( xxx
lacy814 02-18-2009, 10:49 PM Im so sorry to hear about this.. If the co's would have taken into account that he honestly did not want to go to this other unit than maybe he would still be there to fill out his sentence Im so very very sorry to hear about this =[
Suthrndreamgirl 02-19-2009, 11:40 AM I'm so sorry! I lost a dear friend last year who hung himself in jail awaiting sentencing on Fed drug charges. My heart breaks for you & the family.
Although I am new to this site, I am an x-inmate and feel tragic pain for you and your loss. Sounds like once again the co's never listen to an inmate.
lost_without_u7 02-26-2009, 09:02 PM Wow im very sorry to hear that. My fiance was suppost ot go to prison in june but he also hung himself. I found him and saved him. I found him in time but he thought i was gunna leave him which i never would and i spent 33 days in the hospital with him and i wasnt next of kin so his mother which hasnt seen him in 7 years had to make decisions. It really pissed em off n his whole family is brutal n in october he had to go to prison. And im so sad without him. And theres alot more to the story but its just crazy to talk about. And i am so sorry to hear about your nephew.
Texasgrieving 03-27-2009, 02:03 AM :mad:[Sorry for your loss. We are suing a private federal prison on the same thing for the loss of our loved one and they calle dit a suicide. I ain't too sure about that. We hired a lawyer in Texas who does a lot of federal work and he is planning on suing these private owned facilities and maybe a class action. I hope so. If you want to talk to someone on it I can give you a number. God bless you and again I feel your pain. Nothing replaces the pain you feel and the emptiness from such a loss. You feel it to your bones.
Texas Grieving
quote=bren8854;4328714]My beloved nephew, Doug, was in Yazoo City FCC Low. He had three years left to go on a meth charge (mandatory minimum). He had the absolute most positive attitude. I talked to him on New Year's Day and he told me they had a great Christmas dinner, about a book I sent him that he couldn't wait to finish. On January 5, 2009 I got a call that he had committed suicide that morning. We had his funeral yesterday and I'm in total shock and devastation. I have received two letters from his fellow inmate friends. One expressed his condolences and his sadness. The other told me that my nephew had drank some that day but had caused no trouble (apparently this is very common in prison). They said they came and woke my nephew in the middle of the night and said they were taking him to the special housing unit. The friend said he said "please don't take me there". Further down the unit someone told this friend that Doug fell and as they were taking him away Doug said if you take me there I will kill myself. The guard apparently replied "you ain't no killer". I don't know how often he was checked on but they said that he hung himself. I cannot get first hand information since he has a so-called wife. I spoke with him every week, had his power of attorney, put all of his money in his account and sent him everything that he requested, yet I am not the next of kin. I am so sad and in shock. I never dreamed of this nightmare. I thought the prison sentence was the worse news I could receive but this is too much. I love him and I miss him.[/quote]
Texasgrieving 03-27-2009, 02:06 AM I told this poor lady in this forum that we all need to hire lawyers who have backbones and will sue this prisons, whether they are federal, state or private. They say there's a war on drugs and a war on terror but all they want to do is build more prisons and make more money. We already house more people in prison then anyone in the world. Does anyone feel my anger on this. Nonviolent offenders need treatment and training not prison time and that goes for people that have problems like depression and schizophrenia. I am so low right now. It's not right we lost someone because they just didn'tgive a damn and treat people like animals. I am sorry. I am at a very low point and just need to vent, but we need to bring this to light!
:angry:Wow im very sorry to hear that. My fiance was suppost ot go to prison in june but he also hung himself. I found him and saved him. I found him in time but he thought i was gunna leave him which i never would and i spent 33 days in the hospital with him and i wasnt next of kin so his mother which hasnt seen him in 7 years had to make decisions. It really pissed em off n his whole family is brutal n in october he had to go to prison. And im so sad without him. And theres alot more to the story but its just crazy to talk about. And i am so sorry to hear about your nephew.
Texasgrieving 03-27-2009, 02:08 AM We all need to get together and start suing these prisons for substandard care and allowing people to die. Hit them in the pocket book and they will think twice about treating people like animals.
DaveMoff 03-27-2009, 02:23 AM Please regard what I have to say as a bit speculative, however, it stems from the experience of someone I trust completely. Several years ago, he spent five weekends in jail, the result of a plea bargain he managed to finagle himself after coming up against a public defender who worked for the prosecution and did his best to have him sent to prison for two years or more. This is a small town....word gets around fast. And the word was that law enforcement was none too happy about that fact that they weren't able to completely railroad this guy (who in fact committed no crime in the first place).
The cells in the local jail are in "pods" of two--two single cells with a common shower/eating area. The first two weekends, he was placed in a pod with another guy, no problems there. The third weekend he was placed alone in a pod at the far end of the hallway and given rather interesting linens, including a blanket which had had around two inches stripped away from one edge and coiled into a noose.
There was a phone in the cell. He placed a collect call to a private attorney and asked for help. Within half an hour he had been moved into a cell with a cellmate and given new linens.
Now I think we all know what was "supposed" to happen that night. And I think we know it's not an isolated case.
I have no doubt that some people do commit suicide in prison. But others receive "help". I have no idea how this could be determined one way or the other, but if I had a family member who died under such circumstances, I would enlist all the forensic aid I could find to be very, VERY sure of what had happened.
And if there were any doubts, I'd take action. What sort of legal action does one take against those who operate outside the law? Perhaps for that, one much look to one's own conscience.
DaveMoff 03-27-2009, 02:27 AM If private prisons cease to be profitable they will cease to exist. Lawsuits may cut into profits, but there are most likely other means as well. Use your imagination.....
prettygirl21 04-12-2009, 01:26 AM Sorry for your loss sweetie!
*hugs*
I'm really sorry about your loss. I lost a loved one last week end, who also committed suicide, so I guess I *unfortunately* totally understand and sympathize with your pain...
JUSTINSLOVE1024 07-18-2009, 04:06 PM My beloved nephew, Doug, was in Yazoo City FCC Low. He had three years left to go on a meth charge (mandatory minimum). He had the absolute most positive attitude. I talked to him on New Year's Day and he told me they had a great Christmas dinner, about a book I sent him that he couldn't wait to finish. On January 5, 2009 I got a call that he had committed suicide that morning. We had his funeral yesterday and I'm in total shock and devastation. I have received two letters from his fellow inmate friends. One expressed his condolences and his sadness. The other told me that my nephew had drank some that day but had caused no trouble (apparently this is very common in prison). They said they came and woke my nephew in the middle of the night and said they were taking him to the special housing unit. The friend said he said "please don't take me there". Further down the unit someone told this friend that Doug fell and as they were taking him away Doug said if you take me there I will kill myself. The guard apparently replied "you ain't no killer". I don't know how often he was checked on but they said that he hung himself. I cannot get first hand information since he has a so-called wife. I spoke with him every week, had his power of attorney, put all of his money in his account and sent him everything that he requested, yet I am not the next of kin. I am so sad and in shock. I never dreamed of this nightmare. I thought the prison sentence was the worse news I could receive but this is too much. I love him and I miss him.
God will give you the strength i pray to endure every step of the way...Im soo sorry for your loss....take it easy.
t'slovingwife 07-18-2009, 07:33 PM Bless you--you are in my thoughts and prayers
JJS811 07-19-2009, 11:45 AM Deepest condolences to you and your family at this dreadful time.
putnamlifesaver 07-19-2009, 02:53 PM that 'suicide' s a fear 0f mine ab0ut my son.
i am so very,very sorry for your loss.
Mercedes2009 07-19-2009, 06:05 PM My own son is going to some state prison soon on his second charge for meth. I hope that you find comfort for your grief and sorrow, I don't know if it will be any consolation to say that he is in a better place and the pain is for us to deal with.
mrslopez1121 07-19-2009, 06:13 PM I am so deeply sorry for your loss. Don't worry he knows it was you that was always there for him. I pray for you and yours.
believenHim 07-19-2009, 09:49 PM I know what you're feeling and I'm so sorry. My son took his life 4 weeks ago tonight. You're in my prayers.
carolengland 07-22-2009, 04:58 PM my thoughts and prayers are with you all the way from england im so sorry for your loss but god will see the truth..a good friend of mine has just died the same way over in uk he was 21 and alot of unanswered questions,,be strong x x
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