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katydidsbro
06-30-2008, 05:10 PM
I have a question about inmates from other states who are contracted to Texas facilities. Don't know if anyone here will have an answer, but it's worth a shot.

For these inmates, who is responsible for their medical care, Texas or their home state? I know that they will get their care here in Texas, but when they need more than routine care, like specialists, orthopedic devices, surgery, etc, who is responsible for that cost?

I just have a horrible feeling that they will fall between the cracks, with both states saying the other is responsible, so nothing gets done.

This is not an idle question, as one of my inmates just got moved here.


Kay

lormur
06-30-2008, 05:41 PM
Kay, am I reading this right. Does Texas have enough space to be taking in inmates from other states?

katydidsbro
06-30-2008, 07:07 PM
Apparently so. I read about this on the other state's DOC website. That state, at least, is behind on its prison construction, so they're contracting them to Texas. At a very high cost, I'm sure. From what I read, they plan on keeping them here for a long time. Maybe Texas is wanting to build three new prisons so they can handle the overflow from the other 49 states?


Kay

walkonwater
07-01-2008, 04:37 PM
That is amazing to me .... that Texas would contract for other inmates. Our prison population is exploding and they are taking in more from other states?
Amazing what the power of the almighty dollar will do to common sense.

As far as the medical aspect...?..... I hope someone has a plan and those that need the medical treatments and oversight are not left to suffer even more than at present. I wonder if one could find information through UTMB's website about this?

katydidsbro
07-01-2008, 04:51 PM
I don't know. This place is out in west Texas, so I don't think they're even under UTMB. I know my inmate got the run-around from the doctors already. My trainer is looking into it, will see if she can find out anything. She's already had a taste of the state-to-state shuffle. If I have to harass the living daylights out of officials in two states to get this guy some help, then that's what I'll do.


Kay


Update: This just gets worse and worse. My inmate went to a private prison, which is not under TDCJ. I found a website about Texas' private prisons, and eight corporations, as of May 2007, operated over 47,000 beds in Texas, in 67 or more private prisons. They serve as:

local county jails
prisons holding Texans under TDCJ contracts
prisons holding people under contracts from other state systems
prisons holding people under contract with the Federal Bureau of Prisons
pretrial detention centers under contract with the US Marshals Service
immigration detention centers under contract with ICE
youth prisons
pre-release or halfway houses
prisons holding people under contracts from a mix of local, state or federal agencies.

Going by this, some of our TDC inmates are going into these places, as well. I know I've read a lot of scary stories about them lately. As of 2007, Texas has over 15,000 state inmates in private facilities on contract.

So, who has jurisdiction over these places? Who is in charge of making sure that the laws are followed, and no neglect or abuse occurs? Anybody know?

James' Wifey
07-09-2008, 11:29 PM
It's wrong. That's all there is to it. I don't like it one bit. If we can't house our inmates, what the heck are we doing accepting inmates from other states. And something needs to be done about this. It's absolutely unacceptable.

smallngood
07-10-2008, 12:01 AM
As far as the money end- -which ever state SENT them is responsible.
As far as the medical- -where ever they ARE is responsible.
As far as the LAWS- -which ever state they are in.
The state that "house" the inmates is resposible for the safety and laws being followed--of THAT state.
Example, Okla. sends john Doe to Texas, Okla. pays Texas for keeping him so much PER DAY, BUT, he has to follow the rules of TEXAS prison, and if he gets sick, Texas medical.
His safety is under Texas prisons.
Sorry, but this is NOT new, been going on for a heck of a long time.
Five years ago, my unit housed state jail offenders, TDC got paid a BUNCH of money for that. It was a major mess, trust me, because we had to keep "our" inmates away from the "jail" inmates- -don't want to do it again, put it that way. We did that for about a year. It's nothing new, just being known more, that's all. Local "jails" do it ALL the time, that is how they make any money. Next time you see an artical about a new jail expansion, that is how they got the funds for it.

Be safe.

katydidsbro
07-10-2008, 01:03 AM
Small, I know the private prisons aren't part of TDCJ. Do you know what governmental agency oversees them?


Kay