My husband is in soladad he's almost completed 1yr out of his 5 at 85% anyway due to some legal problems of mine ( all traffic tickets ) I'm doing community service so I havent been able to visit him we have 3 kids together a 9yr girl , 6yr boy & a 1yr boy whom he last seen when he was only 2wks old anyway my husband was just told that they are moving him to another state due to over crowding if they move him me & his kids will never be able to visit him. So PLEASE if anyone has any info about what if anything we can do to stop this from happening my family would be greatful
thanks & God Bless
kathy:(

I would write a letter to the warden or contact someone in the prison and explain the situation to them. Perhaps it may help. I hope you get the help you need.

Is this how they are addressing the over crowding problem? Tearing families apart. Shameful.
I would also contact newspapers, your legislators, in addition to the prisons.
I am so sorry that this has happened. Keep us updated. Hopefully someone else here will have a better idea on what you can do.

My husband is also being sent out of state. I was under the impression there was nothign we could do. He put in a 602 but is there anything we can do on our end????????????

Call the Ombusman for your prison, call your husbands counselor, call the asst warden, call the warden. Make yourself a nuisance if neccessary! If too many people are silent about this, and just "accept" it, well, let's face it, it ain't gonna stop happening.

Get on the phone and raise holy hell (that's what I'd be doing, anyway).

Ok i am callilng tomorrow. How do I get a hold of the Ombusman? asst warden? and the warden? my husband is in Corcoran?

Ok i am callilng tomorrow. How do I get a hold of the Ombusman? asst warden? and the warden? my husband is in Corcoran?

Maybe you should post this question in the CSP site. Someone may PM you with the direct line (phone number) to the warden. (I was given the one to my husbands prison that way!). There may also be others there going through the same thing and you could work together to start a "campaign" against these transfers.

Main telephone number for CSP:

559-992-8800

Option 1 for Inmate Mail/Visiting
Option 2 for Personnel Services
Option 3 for Business Services
Option 4 for Administrative Services
Option 5 for Inmate Records
Option 0 for Operator

916-445-6713-Inmate locator

CSATF Ombudsman-Lonnie Jackson

916-324-5458

Main telephone number for CSATF:

559-992-7100

Option 1 for Visiting
Option 2 for Records
Option 3 for personnel
Option 4 for medical
Option 5 for Walden House
Option 6 for Phoenix House
Option 7 for Inmate property issue's
Ext. 4111 for the most recent update on facility status and follow the prompts for the yard the inmate is on.

916-445-6713-Inmate locator

CSATF Ombudsman-Lonnie Jackson

916-324-5458

Friends Outside:

559-992-9756

I've been seeing a lot of posts from various people that are asking about the out of state transfers. Has anyone gone through this and managed to get the transfer halted? If so, HOW DID YOU DO IT??? Who did you have to call? Please post here so that other's can find help with this.

It's hard enough trying to keep our families together when these guys get moved all over the state. But now CDC-r is managing to tear apart our families by moving them all over the bleepin country! It's a travesty.

Those are all good suggestions but regardless of who you contact, if your loved one is selected for transferring, they'll be transferred. My husband was transferred involuntary. I contacted Sacramento, his counselor, the warden, the ombudsman, and even our local politicians and yet, my husband still transferred.

MrZ, I'm sorry this happened to your family. How has it been working out for you? Does your husband like it there better than Cal?

It seems crazy to me that we are sending our inmates out of state like cattle being auctioned off. I realize that some inmates have volunteered, and some may even be closer to their families by moving. I guess I have a hard time believing that this is even constitutional. If we don't have the room to house our own inmates then we shouldn't be locking so darn many people up. Surely with some changes in the "business as usual" mindset our politicians are stuck on, this wouldn't even have to be an issue. Are there enough involuntary transfers that the people being directly affected are banding together and filing a law suit?

Whether making all the calls helped or not, it's still the only thing right now that anyone can do. Maybe if enough of the families call - repeatedly and insistently - eventually something will be done to change this policy. If no one calls, it will remain the status quo and nothing will change. And you never know, anything is possible and the call may prevent that one person from being transferred.

Unfortunately, if they decide on a transfer it's going to happen. He is "state property" -- the sad truth is he "ripped his family apart" when he committed his crime and this must be endured. Inmates are being transf. to privately run facilities in the south. --- Missouri, Tenn & Texas. At this point California does not have a large privately run prison. Every time one is proposed the union for the guards is able to knock it down.

I read about this proposal last year but it was struck down by the courts unless it was voluntary. Does anyone know if that decision was overturned?

They are sending voluntary and involuntary.

Just did a little reading, it was declared illegal in 02-07, and appealed. I can't find anything on the outcome of the appeal but the powerful prison guard's union is opposed to it and they own half the legislature. It may be preparation in case they win but could still be fought all the way to the Supreme Court.

Just did a little reading, it was declared illegal in 02-07, and appealed. I can't find anything on the outcome of the appeal but the powerful prison guard's union is opposed to it and they own half the legislature. It may be preparation in case they win but could still be fought all the way to the Supreme Court.

Furnish me wit the case name, cite and court it was rendered in. With that info I can easily determine if it was appealed and, if so, the result.

As far as I know the appeal was overturned and they are allowing all transfers to go thru. They have been doing the transfers for awhile now.

Both non-Citizens and Citizens are now being transferred involuntary out of state. It does not matter what the inmate's status is, nor how many years he has or if he gets constant visits from their family members.

The appeal was supposed to occur this past February but got postponed to a later date which was not mentioned in the articles I came upon.

i agree with the stuff people have already told you.

Any recent news about the appeal of AB900? I can't seem to find anything about it.

I read about this proposal last year but it was struck down by the courts unless it was voluntary. Does anyone know if that decision was overturned?

No but the Governor was granted a supercedes , so he can still send people out of state while it is being appealed

Actually, the appeal was that the Governor did not have the authority to house state inmates outside of California. One of the provisions of AB900 gave him the authority to house inmates outside of California until 2013. That made the appeal moot.

Does anyone know if an inmate can request a transfer to a certain state? My husband is at corcoran and wants to be transferred to Tennessee. I worry that they will transfer him to a different state.

The max housed at TN is 80 and currently they're already maxed out so I doubt the request would be made for your husband to be transferred there. My husband was at Corcoran too and was transferred to MS.

My son has been approved to be moved out of state, does anyone have any information on how to stop it from happening? I've heard that there is a legal group working on blocking it, anyone have any info. on that?

I appreciate any and all help. Thanks.

Reply to Pati

I do not understand why you said the prisoner ripped his family apart when he committed his crime. Do you really believe all prisoners are guilty of the crimes they were charged with? Do you really believe that their families should be ripped apart regardless of whether the prisoner is guilty? What are his family members guilty of? Loving their family?

Dawn

Furnish me wit the case name, cite and court it was rendered in. With that info I can easily determine if it was appealed and, if so, the result.

Paralegal, this is one of the articles I found about this subject (it's over a year old):

Judge forbids transferring of prisoners
Governor sent some inmates out of state
By Don Thompson
ASSOCIATED PRESS February 21, 2007

The administration will ask the Sacramento-based 3rd District Court of Appeal to issue an emergency stay of Ohanesian's order while it considers an appeal, Schwarzenegger Legal Affairs Secretary Andrea Hoch said.

“We think our arguments are strong,” Hoch told reporters. “This is the type of emergency that is covered under the Emergency Services Act. We will prevail on appeal.” If the court rejects the emergency stay or rules against the governor's appeal, inmates already transferred will have to return to California prisons, union attorney Gregg Adam said.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070221/news_1n21prisons.html

Wonder what's happening with the appeal? Has anyone heard?

1.) No, I do not believe that everyone convicted of a crime is actually guilty. Let's be realistic though...most are.

2) When someone commits a crime they are the ones that tear their families apart, not the system.

I committed a crime and went to prison for 2 1/2 years. It was my fault, not the states, that I was away from my family. My actions ripped us apart. Therefore it was me that punished my family.

Gov. Schwarzenegger Issues Statement on Court Ruling Allowing Inmate Transfers to Temporarily Continue

Governor Schwarzenegger issued the following statement after the Third District Court of Appeals granted a stay in the case CCPOA vs. Schwarzenegger, which will allow California to continue to transfer inmates out of state to relieve prison overcrowding while appeals proceed:

"This ruling will allow the state to continue with our plan to transfer inmates out of state while the case is appealed, and will help California avoid a court-ordered release of dangerous felons. Out of state transfers will improve the safety of California's institutions for our correctional officers and staff as well as the inmates, and will provide much needed space for rehabilitation programs. The transferring of inmates out of state is a critical component of the state's overall plan to relieve overcrowding."

BACKGROUND

Beginning in June 2007, the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) intends to resume transferring inmates to out-of-state private prison facilities. It is expected that CDCR will process approximately 400 inmates per month for transfer out of state, and that approximately 8,000 inmates will be transferred in total. The recently passed prison reform legislation, AB 900, authorizes involuntary transfers until July 1, 2011.

Inmates selected for transfer to out-of-state facilities must undergo a comprehensive medical screening. Only those inmates who meet the Receiver's medical criteria will be selected for transfer. Transferringinmates out of state will reduce overcrowding, which in turn will decrease the risk of violence and the spread of infectious diseases. Additionally, these transfers will result in reduced staffing requirements; for example, escort officers and medical staff will be better able to serve a smaller population. The transfers will also free space at existing facilities for enhanced medical services. Medical staff will be able to focus on non-emergent services, because reducing prison overcrowding, and in particular the use of non-traditional beds, will ease prison living environments and decrease violence and the spread of infectious diseases.







Paralegal, this is one of the articles I found about this subject (it's over a year old):

Judge forbids transferring of prisoners
Governor sent some inmates out of state
By Don Thompson
ASSOCIATED PRESS February 21, 2007

The administration will ask the Sacramento-based 3rd District Court of Appeal to issue an emergency stay of Ohanesian's order while it considers an appeal, Schwarzenegger Legal Affairs Secretary Andrea Hoch said.

“We think our arguments are strong,” Hoch told reporters. “This is the type of emergency that is covered under the Emergency Services Act. We will prevail on appeal.” If the court rejects the emergency stay or rules against the governor's appeal, inmates already transferred will have to return to California prisons, union attorney Gregg Adam said.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070221/news_1n21prisons.html

Wonder what's happening with the appeal? Has anyone heard?

Has anyone heard about the AB900 appeal that was supposed to held this past February? Was it postponed? If so, to when?

I wish I would have known about this site months ago. My daughters dad was in Soledad also. Two weeks ago they relocated him to Mississippi :(. I really hope and pray that you'll find a way to make them reconsider.

the only thing that can stop it is if he has a medical condtion like heart problems.
i also tried this last year and got it stoped once but the second time he couldnt get it stopped in time.
you can call melissa lee she is the assocx warden for out of state transfers i will look for the number and pm you.

you can only stop them fwith medical problems such as heart

The Oly Way You Can Stop Out Of State Transfers
Is If They Have Medical Problems Such As Heart.
Last Year My Hubby Was Transfered To Az Florence Correctional Canter In Flornce
And It Was Great For The First 6 Months Then All Hell Has Broke Loose
His Date Has Changed So Many Times I Can Understand The Reasons We Want Them To Stay Here But There Are Benfits To Them Moving
Such As Class Xbox Phone Calls Meals And Packages
Please Understand I Wish This Hadnt Happend To Us But It Did And We Tired To Make The Best Of It.
I Have Been Though It So If You Have Questions Please Ask

Visiting him helps. Get family and friends who can be approved for visits to send in visiting forms and go as often as possible.

After, I started visiting him and got his mom and dad to send in their visiting forms, I gave one call to his counselor and left a message... next thing I know he said the counselor passed him in the hall and said some called about you. Then they had a meeting and off to Solano he went about a month later. Was a little more involved than that but that's the crux of it.

Ally

they do not go by visits and family visits my husband and i had both and they still took him and they continue to take them.
they did at first go by those standardsa but they stopped. in aug of last year

they do not go by visits and family visits my husband and i had both and they still took him and they continue to take them.
they did at first go by those standardsa but they stopped. in aug of last year

I think it's a case by case basis, because they said he was going due to no family connections.

they say that crap too
what ever they need to do to get them out of state
sad thing is they dont follow any rules or standards to do this we first went though this with terry mcdonal she was the assoc warden.
now they have melissa lee as assoc warden for out of state transfers
most of the guys they took all had family connections.one of them got visits every weekend.
they line of crap that they give out is just that crap.
unless you have a medical condtion they are taking them.
my brother in law has hernia i think that how it is spellewd they wouldnt take him hubby and i had family vivist and they still took him.
they go in cycles.
how sad that this is happening.
the other thing is out of the 8000 inmates that siad they would transfer they only took about 700 of them. the others continue to wait for there cahnce to get closer to there loved ones

Can you explain "all hell broke lose" :eek:
Can you explain some of the bad issues and the good issues since he has been transferred.

Yes I Can I Will Post Later
He Has Gotten More Time But I Will Expain Later Tonight.

ekate,

I can tell you've had some bad experience and that you're quite passionate about how you feel on this subject. I complete empathize with you and your husbands situation and agree that CDC can be very frustrating.

The post asked if anyone had stopped an out of state transfer and I stated our story. It's just what happened to us.

Let's try to keep this thread on topic.

Blessings,

Ally

they say that crap too
what ever they need to do to get them out of state
sad thing is they dont follow any rules or standards to do this we first went though this with terry mcdonal she was the assoc warden.
now they have melissa lee as assoc warden for out of state transfers
most of the guys they took all had family connections.one of them got visits every weekend.
they line of crap that they give out is just that crap.
unless you have a medical condtion they are taking them.
my brother in law has hernia i think that how it is spellewd they wouldnt take him hubby and i had family vivist and they still took him.
they go in cycles.
how sad that this is happening.
the other thing is out of the 8000 inmates that siad they would transfer they only took about 700 of them. the others continue to wait for there cahnce to get closer to there loved ones

ally you are very lucky
i wish i could have been

In Feb He Started Having Trouble With A Guard There And That Guy Gave Him 3 115's In 2 Days So I Made Complaints.
Then About A Week Later Same Guy Went To The Law Libary And Said My Husband And His Friend Were Planning Staff Assults.
They Were Put In Ad Seg Again Another 115 Which I Fought Like Hell On They JustLET IT GO THEN THIS MAY THEY HAD HIM STILL IN AD SEG AND THE WARDEN CAME DOWN ANS TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS GOING BACK TO GENERAL POP THE NEXRT DAY SO THEY NEED TO PACK UP REMIND YOU AT THIS TIME HE WAS COMING HOME ON JULY 4 SO THE NEXT DAQY CAME AND OFFICERS CAME AND THEY TOLD THEM THEY WERE MOVING TO A NEW AD SEG BULIDING THE MAC REP JUST STARTED TALKING TO THEM AND THEY PEPPER SPRAYED THEM ALL . THIS IS ALL ON VIDEO TAPE.
I WAS TOLD BY ONE OF THE CCI THAT HE IS NOT ON VIDEO EXPECT FOR WHEN AN OFFICE WALKED UP TO HIM AND SPRAYED HIM.
SO THEY ARE TRYING TO CHARGE HIM WITH STARTING A DISTURBANCE
AND PLAYING POLICTICS AND THEY DONT WANT HIM THERE.
BUT THE DAY THIS HAPPENED I GOT A CALL FROM ANOTHER WIFE SAYING THEY WERE IN A ROIT AND I SHOULD CALL TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE OK.
SO I DID AND HIS CASE MANAGER TOLD ME HE WAS COUGHT USING A WEPON. NOT TRUE. BUT NOW WE ARE UNSURE OF HIS OUT DATE HE MAY NOT COUME HIM TILL 2010 THEY ARE TRYING TO SEND HIM TO PELICAN BAY SHU FOR ALL THIS.
THE WORST PART OF IT IS THAT WHEN HE GOT THERE HE LOVED IT I HEARD A MAN I HADNT HEARD IN YEARS HE KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOW PEACEFUL IT IS AND HOW HAPPY HE WAS THE ONLY THING HE WISHED FOR WAS THAT IS WASNT SO FAR AWAY.
IWE HAVE WAITED TEN YEARS FOR HIM TO COME HOME AND NOW THIS BULLSHIT.
THE FUNNY APRT WAS IN THE TEN YEARS HE HAD DONE BEFORE THIS HE HAD ONLY GOT IN TROUBLE ONCE. ONCE IN TEN YEARS.
THEY TIRED TO TELL ME THAT HE IS SO CLOSE TO HOMEHE MAY NOT WANT TO CAUSE HE IS SCARED LOL