Looks like I get to move over too this forum. Things have gone beyound "pen pals"! I still have some reservations tho, but Dec 02 is a bit away.

Congrats and Good Luck

Congratulations. This is great news!!! WooHoo!!

WELL, how far beyound pen pals has it gone B-Ray?

YEAH, B-RAY GIVE US THE SCOOP...

>>>how far beyound<<<

12-11-02 (gate time) will be our 1st real date. Then dealing with the PO so she can leave the State of FL. Then off to CA and once here I'll keep her..........humm can't get the PG thingie done, (it ain't broke, gots pleanty of gun power, just outta ammo), so I guess, just barefooted. LOL

THAT'S NOT LONG B-RAY.... (12-11) SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE FANTASTIC CHRISTMAS!!!

Oh myyyyyyy, Congrats B-Ray!

Well, the act isn't over until the curtains fall!

There's still a bit of time till Dec and who knows until I get there. I still have some concerns with the age gap! And ya'll know how dumb, a blonde can be? Opppss, sure glad she can't read this!! LMAO

I'm just going to ignore that juvenile blonde joke, and say "Yee-ha!!! Way to go!!!"

Well - this dumb blonde wishes to congratulate you!

make that 2 dumb blondes ...oh yeah..i forgot...check the iq test in jokes forum....lol

You ole' dirty dog.. ;) Congrats.. :)

ooooo!! B-ray! Congratulations!!

Whom ever said "life begains at 40" didn't live long enough!

Now I don't know if too double up the 1-A-day or stock up on them 6 pill "sample" packs? ~EG~

I better be carefull with what it is I be say'n! She could back track'n and be read'n this STUFF later. LMAO

That's OK if she does, B-ray! You are always respectful to others, even if you are a "ole dirty dog/goat!" LOL
She could only be flattered at your attentions.

vnv, I guessing here, but I feel she is able to add/come back on, what every I have or will say? At least I hope so!

She'll have to be on top of things to keep up with you, B-ray!

Get your mind out of the gutter, dear! I hear you cooking up a response to that post! LOL

No "gutter" thoughts going through my head! Just pure pleasure, no matter whom is where! ~EG~

Congrats....wish you life, love and endless happiness!!

The following has been brought to my attention for consideration via PM (and rightly so)! Thank You!

But I have choosen to relay part that is well worth considering! And the fact I've kinda kept ya'll posted in what's a go'n on. :D

"This is about you sending your penpal money for the restition she owes. I've heard of this scam at least three times now. Very curious to me that it is even the same amount".

What stands out is, THREE TIMES and SAME AMOUNT

Now, can I really feel safe by being there in person and with a signed contract? This person say's no, more like a grab and run.

Now this person has more insite then I do, my 1st time. And it took this person "two days" before making contact, so it was hashed and rehashed in what really wanted to be done and why. That's a whole lot of caring in my book!

So, that's it folks.............a dilemma? Or nip-it-in-the-bud? I think I'll wait for a letter or two and evaluate, then send a copy of bother sides of that PM and see what happens.

Now I want to address another area of the PM, words used.

"un-asked, free advise, ignore, discard, unwanted opinion"

I hope I never read those words again from anyone, when there something heavy on your mind that you think I need to know! Caring opinions are VALUED! nuff said

I'm glad this person decided to give you a head's up just in case. That was good of them to look out for you like that. It may not be a scam, or it might be. Either way, B-ray, let us know what is on your mind and what you decide.

Well, it was one of those nights AGAIN! Yep, took this situation to bed :argh I didn't get up until noon, luckly it's an off day. Work tomorrow, so I need to get strighten up tonight! :)

Now if this restition is paid before she hit's the gates, she is FREE to go anywhere, and tells me she'll be out a few days after she's gone. The other possibility is, someone else could be at the gate too and she climbs in another car :wave:

So, with the caring advise I've recieved and noting also my wonderment about the 'surger daddy' thing in the past, AND since this isn't a "full blown" love affare AND for my own mental health AND since Florida might as well be on the other side of the world, compared too California. AND, geez how many "AND's" can I put into this thing? That was a lotta work last night, still tuckered!!

So, I'm giving up the idea of having a Young, Beautifull, Sexy woman in this ole goats life. (at least for now) dream on McDuff :D

Nip-it-in-the-bud is the route to go. But I think I'll wait a bit, and see if she comes across as thinking I'm slipping away. If she is a "con", I need to learn the route this takes and at what point it's cut off. I may not have to do anything?

+ or - advise is ALWAYS welcome on any subject! That's one of the benifit's of being active on PTO!!

B-Ray,

I do not feel specifically qualified to give you advice as I don't know yourself or the young woman you write about. However, I will share my thoughts and you may do as you wish with them.

It seems as if you have extended yourself to this woman--which is very nice of you. From what you have indicated--feelings have developed--certainly for you. It would be nice if the feelings were definitely mutual--nice for both of you. Your friends intentions may be genuine---time would tell. If you feel good about pursuing the relationship--you should. At this point--you haven't met each other or spent time together--which I believe is important for the growth of any relationship. Rather than make a decision one way or another, it might be advisable to go and meet this woman in Florida upon her release. Spend a week there--get to know each other. Offer her your friendship. She needs to get established. She shouldn't depend on you to take care of her. If things go well during your visit--you could continue to write, email, call and plan another visit. Take it slow. Let things develop. You may not want to give more than she is capable of receiving--it could be unwise for you both. You should both be free to enter into the relationship.

In anycase, I wish you much happiness in this journey.

Take care,

Molly

Molly, your advise is well recieved and shared by "others". PM's are coming throught LOL, haven't checked email yet tho.

It's good to have a "sounding board" when dealing with such a dilemma!!

Yes, I do have feeling, protected as they are. That something that one does, when a few roads have been traveled on the internet. This inmate road is a 1st.

After posting the "up date", I thought......shucks I should let the gals at PTO pick one and bring her to the gathering in March. Some here, know me well enough that they would do a better job then I have? LMAO

I don't know tho, I married my very first "blind" date, (mother of my children), but that lasted 19 yrs.

I wish you luck B-Ray whitch ever road you decide to take.

B-ray,
I think what Molly said is right, its very important you meet her first, face to face contact is so much more than words on a page. Decicde what you feel for her if its alot go to florida and meet her. Just make sure (and I know sometimes that it can be uncontrollable) that you dont fall for her too much until you have established that trust and met her.
Hope its all ok and you find love with her.
Take Care
Caroline
ps another blonde who doesnt appreicate the jokes ;)

Caroline, your right about meeting in person! I've had two online romance's (FL/AZ) over the past 4+ yrs with my own age group. (6months/10months) with all the bells and whistles that can go on with online/phone. I spent 4 days in FL, cold as ice, found out later I was #2. Stood up in Las Vegas/rekindled/met in Reno with the second one. She had money, I don't (different life style). So when I say my feelings are guarded, they ARE! That deep emotional feeling just isn't allowed! The word "trust" is the key!

B-Ray,
Good luck on whatever you decide. I know you will make the right decision.

B-Ray....honey, i would just write this woman, or, if she calls you, just tell her flat out "i received some information regarding this "fee" you want me to pay for you...what is the deal?" i'd even ask for an official copy of the arranged amount of the fee "for your records". if she's NOT scamming you, then she should be understanding that you want to keep yourself safe. if she IS scamming you, once you bring all this into the open and talk about it, she'll probably clam up or run like hell, knowing you've figured her out. i would just be upfront and honest.

B-RAY
YOU ARE RIGHT HON.... NOW IS NOT THE TIME.... HOLD OFF A LITTLE WHILE.... THERE ARE SOME REAL CON ARTISTS BOTH IN AND OUT OF PRISON.... TELL HER YOU JUST DO NOT HAVE EXTRA MONEY RIGHT NOW AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS... AND DO TELL HER THAT YOU RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT GOOD ABOUT THE FEE SHE ASKED FOR...

YOU CAN TELL BY THE TONE OF HER VOICE AND HOW SHE REACTS THE TRUTH

MY PRAYERS TO YOU SPECIAL MAN

DONNA

I've wondering how things would be, once she recieved my last letter.............11 bucks to mail a priority packet & a book of stamps.

I enclosed a bunch that has been said here at PTO including where I said that I would "evaluate" them photo's your men wanted, too see if there proper or not. Her responce and UNDERLINED better not, your g/f would surely be up set! with a :D added

Nothing has been said about money! She's in her 4th volumes of a paralegal course. There's 8 to 10 test per volume. and proxy marriages are part of the course. She added that since I talked about some of you gals doing that.

I talked about the ex-con thingie and she has a good, IMO, long reply. The subject wasn't just brushed over. And she HAMMERED me about my concerns about the age thingie!

So it looks like we are still faning the embers and trying to start a bond fire. :D :D (very guarded at my end tho)

BTW, I kinda opened the door about my past, as some of you know was a concern of mine. I said, I did 5 yrs probation in 3 reguarding a very unpleasent situation. Her reply, "you can't possible be the same person now as then! "I don't care, it's your business"!

So, that's where I'll leave it!

awesome news, b-ray!!! :D sounds like things are moving along "swimmingly"! *hugs*

the families are always easiest prey for scams..