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GHOTI
03-05-2008, 06:44 PM
Our little group of followers of Christ have spent the past 5 ½ months on the Sermon on the Mount. Many of you will say “Wow! Nearly half a year on a couple of chapters of Matthew?” Yep, and it feels like we have only scratched the surface.

Most of us seem to hold great store in sayings found in this particular passage, so I think it worthwhile to address it here. There’s a lot that would be entertaining and thoroughly useful for us, but I only feel like writing on one point at this time. And that is a few comments on the Golden Rule. Well, actually, The Golden Rule vs. The Silver Rule.

The Silver Rule? Probably not too many of us have heard of that, although we tend to follow it nonetheless, and most of the teachings of the various religions cited here center around it. Basically, it is this: “You first, after me.” or “Don't do to others what you don't want done to you.” OK, but isn’t that the Golden Rule? No, it really isn’t.

It is generally believed that Jesus was simply reiterating long-standing teachings of other religions.

Some examples:

1. The HINDU religion taught:
This is the sum of duty: do naught to others which if done
to thee would cause thee pain.
The Mahabharata

2. The BUDDHIST religion taught:
Hurt not others with that which pains yourself.
Udana-Varga

3. The JEWISH traditions taught:
What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow men. That is
the entire Law; all the rest is commentary.
The Talmud

4. The MUSLIM religion taught:
No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother
that which he desires for himself.
Hadith

5. The BAHA'I faith teaches:
He should not wish for others that which he doth not wish
for himself, nor promise that which he doth not fulfil.
The Book of Certitude

6. And Yet Some Other Sources:
Do not do unto others what angers you if done to you by
others.
Isocrates 436-338 BCE

"Tzu-kung asked, 'Is there a single word which can be a guide
to conduct throughout one's life?' The Master said, 'It is
perhaps the word "shu". Do not impose on others what you
yourself do not desire'"
Analects, 15.24

An interesting, but often overlooked point is that Jesus’ “Golden Rule" emanated from a positive application while most of what I’ve quoted above do not. Jesus requires that you treat others favorably, while most religious views on this only prohibit you from committing unfavorable acts toward others.

Jesus - Do unto others what you want them to do to you.
Others - Don't do to others what you don't want done to you.

With the others, all that is required is that you don't harm other people; with Jesus, what is required is that you show kindness to others.
Jesus' rule is truly the GOLDEN rule, the others are SILVER rules (of value, yes, but not as much as "gold")

[The only exception appears to be found in Hadith (the traditions of Islam); but then, some of Islam is admittedly based upon what Jesus taught 600 years before Mohammed.]

So Jesus’ teaching on that hillside was revolutionary compared to what "uninspired" teachers had previously proclaimed.

But in another sense it was nothing new; rather, in a simple and easy-to-remember statement, Jesus gives us a ready-made principle for living with others. That is, something that is always ready to be used. For example, even in an emergency, when there is no time to consult a friend, teacher, or book for advice, or even PTO, the "golden rule" can be an valuable guide for proper conduct. Treat others as you would like to be treated, and it is unlikely you will ever do the wrong thing.

And what are the basic points of that famous sermon?
a. Be careful in your judgment of others.
b. Persevere in looking to God for help in making proper discernment.
c. In your treatment of others, treat them like you want to be treated. (The Golden Rule)

DestinysChild
03-07-2008, 02:34 AM
GHOTI...now that you found out what you have, will you trust in Jesus & believe in him more or will you still continue to search the words he gave us for someone else's truth?

I guess I'm a bit niave.........I follow Jesus without question......because personally I know that he is God & I don't need to question his commands & teachings...

I can already tell that Jesus words & directions are for the best interests for not only ourselves but for everyone else too. Personally, I found that through mostly common sense.....(it took me most of my life however) somehow when I follow Jesus & do what he says to do in a situation I don't get as hurt nor does the other person/people. I follow Jesus pretty blindly now, because I have found that I can trust him with my heart & soul (Jesus has accomplished that for me & no one else even comes close)

I found I don't need to look up all the other world religious leaders & philosophers teachings (although many of them were very close teachings, you know what they say about horseshoes & hand grenades......) I only need my Lord Jesus now. It is not a bad thing to find all of that information that you found out to help you along the way to trusting Jesus.......I did those things myself a time or two in my life.


All the worlds greatest religious leaders & thinkers, philosophers have always kept the intrinsic values the same........Peace & Harmony. Jesus however is the only one who fulfills the body, mind & heart with LIVING water.........& contentment for the heart..........I no longer question that.

TedEBare
03-07-2008, 08:54 AM
I don't think that Ghoti was gathering knowledge because he questions the Lord or the Bible. I think he just has a thirst for knowledge. And I, for one, appreciate his knowledge. I don't question Jesus' Golden Rule but it was interesting learning about the other religion's belief's along those lines.

Thank you, Ghoti, for your post. I often think of the Golden Rule in my life. I've often reminded my children of it. But, I don't think I've ever thought about it to this level. I've thought about it and then treated people better than I might have but, not to the extent of how I would want to be treated in that same situation.

tigrldy
03-07-2008, 09:15 AM
Ghoti, I agree with Yawncosbabygirl. I always enjoy reading your posts anyway because they are always so full of wisdom. I had never heard of the Silver rule and grew up in the church. Seeing the comparison was very enlightening.

GHOTI
03-07-2008, 09:41 AM
I think almost all of us tend to follow along with traditional beliefs concerning certain Biblical "standards". I know that this particular study has opened my eyes a lot concerning the "Judge not" passage, this clearer understanding of the Golden Rule, and also much of that short example of praying we have come to call the Lord's Prayer. Boy, are the actual things said a lot different than I grew up thinking!

There is so much we are inclined to miss if we just read, and not truly study. And even more if we just swallow what some preacher, bishop, shaman, rabbi, or priest has told us. Of course, you do have to be prepared for the difficulties that kind of studying brings home to roost in your own life. If I was to be to be totally honest, I'd have to say that I really do wish some of the other religions rang true to me. I'm the kind of guy who pretty well depends upon himself, and I am attracted to the religions where you get to earn your way through your own efforts (works, the Bible calls them). But that danged bugaboo, study, has shown me that largely eliminates the faith factor.

One commonly accepted concept that I have discovered (through studying) to be false is the notion that Jesus encouraged people to follow him. In truth, he did just the opposite. Take for example, the "rich young ruler". Jesus actually laid it all out to him in such a way that he, in effect, said "No way! Following you would be too hard." So he turned around and walked away saddly.

And all over the Bible, he kept on repeating that Christianity, far from being a bed of roses, is guaranteed to make your life in the world more difficult than it is now.

Yeah, if you really aren't prepared to accept some tough things, leave that studying alone. ;)

DestinysChild
03-08-2008, 05:16 AM
True GHOTI, very very true........getting to know Jesus up close & personal is much different than just allowing what others say about him to become our beliefs without our own understanding. It is very true that Jesus did not come to Earth to achieve the greatest number of followers that was not his mission at all. His mission was to die on that cross as the sacrificial lamb so that all could be save through him. Many don't understand that. Jesus as I understand him wanted to correct what the pharisees & sadducess had been doing to the original commandments God gave to Moses. They had completely messed things up. Jesus came to sew a sword not peace. He knew his mission was going to culminate in his death on a cross.......yet he loved us that much that he completed that mission. Studying his word (God's word) is absolutely essential in getting to know him. God left us his book of love letters we call the bible. His testiment to us just as a father leaves his will to his children. The only way we can get to know God is to STUDY his word. It is also very important to get with other Christians so things can be talked about in order to gain a better understanding. GHOTI has hit the nail on the head here as far as studying God's word. One reason it is called the living word is because it comes alive (makes understanding) at different times in our lives when previously it may have not made any sense....we go through life experiences & then we can find in the bible how to handle things. I've always loved that it's called the living word, also because God is alive, Jesus is alive. John the apostle told Jesus he wanted the law written on his heart.......that to me is what the goal is. Once the word is in the head it must pass to the heart. Jesus said the heart of the law is mercy.......to the pharisee's when they'd completely shut up the kingdom of heaven against man. They were themselves not following the law but they expected everyone else to follow it to a tee or they were condemned. Jesus said judge no one that is up to God.....that is a task however. It takes sometime years to stop doing that.....I try so hard yet sometimes I find myself thinking that person.....this or that person...that. It is not easy to be a Christian it take a lifetime of being sanctified becoming more Christlike.......Jesus said to pick up our cross daily & follow him.......not an easy thing. Yet is doable..........

Thanks GHOTI & everyone for helping me to see the error of my own ways. I never meant to offend anyone, especially you my friend. I've always loved reading your posts. Sometime I it seems that I still have problems jumping the gun with my own misunderstanding of what I read & how I write back (I'm not a good communicating writer. Everything you've said here GHOTI's writings have always to me been absolutely informative & thought provoking.........I thank you for that. I hope you can forgive my momentary weakness !

Destiny ;)

I think almost all of us tend to follow along with traditional beliefs concerning certain Biblical "standards". I know that this particular study has opened my eyes a lot concerning the "Judge not" passage, this clearer understanding of the Golden Rule, and also much of that short example of praying we have come to call the Lord's Prayer. Boy, are the actual things said a lot different than I grew up thinking!

There is so much we are inclined to miss if we just read, and not truly study. And even more if we just swallow what some preacher, bishop, shaman, rabbi, or priest has told us. Of course, you do have to be prepared for the difficulties that kind of studying brings home to roost in your own life. If I was to be to be totally honest, I'd have to say that I really do wish some of the other religions rang true to me. I'm the kind of guy who pretty well depends upon himself, and I am attracted to the religions where you get to earn your way through your own efforts (works, the Bible calls them). But that danged bugaboo, study, has shown me that largely eliminates the faith factor.

One commonly accepted concept that I have discovered (through studying) to be false is the notion that Jesus encouraged people to follow him. In truth, he did just the opposite. Take for example, the "rich young ruler". Jesus actually laid it all out to him in such a way that he, in effect, said "No way! Following you would be too hard." So he turned around and walked away saddly.

And all over the Bible, he kept on repeating that Christianity, far from being a bed of roses, is guaranteed to make your life in the world more difficult than it is now.

Yeah, if you really aren't prepared to accept some tough things, leave that studying alone. ;)

Wendi_Antares
03-09-2008, 12:19 AM
Thank You GHOTI...:)

MadeInOz
03-09-2008, 08:42 AM
Although I am a christian, there are times when I wonder about my faith. However, I try to live my life as a person who does good for those around me. If everyone followed the simple rules, then perhaps the world would be a better place... But... it becomes less about doing good, and more about just which 'others' are more important... :P