how are ya?

I was thinking the same thing Jancy. The last time O was MIA, I sent her a PM and she eventually showed back up. I'll keep checking back in to see if we hear from our girl. Great minds think alike!
Wendy

hey we can issue a warrant for her arrest, send out a constable...etc BTDT with my son, perhaps we can pull that one off.

hey maybe if we yell loud enough!!
yoohoo woman!!! you are being paged from PA to mexico

She's still not listening, even though we have an international alert going on!
Wendy

I see she was over eating nachos on the Mother's on a Mission" thread...than her puter got possessed! Maybe we need to go do a excorcism on that puter! Eeeek!

OK guys. I'm here. My puter did get possessed. Then I couldn't get back on to PTO. I'm doing OK. The baby has been keeping me busy. Just taking it one day at a time.
By the way, who's bright idea was it to start bowling? When I couldn't get back on to PTO I went to check it out. Before I knew it it was 2:30 am. It can be addicting.

Haahaa, I've been over there a few times, playing Bingo with strangers! Never could find anyone from here over there...
Glad your doing alright, there are a few of us here barely hanging on these days. I just asked someone if they knew if it's 5:00 anywhere, LOL.

I just changed the time on my clock. It's now 5:00.

Hello ladies! You could of told me we were meeting at Jancy's today. :D Hope everyone is in good spirits. No not drinking spirits! Yes I've been bowling several times this week. I haven't registered yet. Maybe when I do I'll use my TBmom. :D
I've seen a few posts where some have been having a rough time. I know how that is. The winter's play havic with me. Need some of that sunshine. Wend, how's the weather at your place? Maybe I'll move south for the winter. :D
Just talked to my son. He moved from his original cell and has a new cellmate. I didn't hear from him and got worried. He made the request and thought maybe the old cellie was upset with him and going to cause trouble. Wasting my worry energy on nothing...:p
So any party's going on tonight I need to know about? I haven't gotton out of my PJ's yet. :D Being lazy with hubby watching movies.

I'll send you some of the sunshine from down here. It's sunny and in the 80's. Been a really weird winter even for down here. Hasn't seemed to help the mood though. It was a relief to get through the court thing but things are creeping up on me again. Seems there are several who are having a rough patch. I guess just part of the ups and downs of what we are all having to deal with. Hopefully we will all have some ups real soon.

I just changed the time on my clock. It's now 5:00.
Wish I saw this one sooner, it wouldn't have been such a long wait! :p

So any party's going on tonight I need to know about? I haven't gotton out of my PJ's yet. :D Being lazy with hubby watching movies.

Glad to know I wasn't alone, I didn't even get up til noon. :eek: Than with the bad weather, no way was I going to get in the shower with all that lightning! :no: Don't know about any parties, there's alot of MIA going on around here. Has anyone heard from D'gal? Is she alright? I pray that she is, last I heard, she was home from work and sick. Well I'm off to make a michilata (Sp:bow: SORRY WENDY!)....

:haha: Who wants one???????

I'll take one! Umm. What is it?

Haven't seen or heard anything from D'gal. Hope she's OK. Wendy is worried about what is going on at her son's prison. I hope things settle down there.

Ha ha, It's spicy V8 juice, pepper, celery salt (a dash of each) and lime mixed with beer, served in a salted glass. Serves 2 purposes, starting a buzz and curring a hangover. heeheehee, I'm currently working on the first one! (the buzz).

Well, I'll give it a try. Sounds interesting.

The first time I had one, I wasn't too fond of it, but it had alot af tabasco sauce in it, HEARTBURN galore, now I really like them as long as I make it myself. Guess it's one of things that's an aquired taste? I'll make you one!

Didn't mean to leave ya hangin reg. Wrote a post to tell ya to put that drink on hold cause I had to go play taxi but I guess I forgot to hit the post tab. I'm ready to try it now if ya come back around.

Tag!!!

so, I spent the last two days as a couch potato and missed the late night bowling for beverages??
LOL
welcome back, O, wish I was in FLA. it is nowing, gray and cold here, just reloaded the woodburner with logs and am about to go color my hair. I used to have dark dark brown hair and lately and going lighter and lighter. moving on up to a number 8 l'oreal. (a dark blonde for me) yep, that is the ticket a new hair color!!

Yeah, I checked in and everyone else went MIA. Thought I had cyber BO or something.

I think some of us work outside the home and time is so limited on the computer. I could sit here all day if I didnt have to go to work. lol
sorry to read that you are missing your son so much. sadly that is a pain that lingers. ugh. see if you can at least send him a note telling him you are still here.

Hope your feeling better today Ovietor. You are always in my thoughts and prayers. :grouphug: Take Care.

Thanks Reg. Trying not to be MIA but not doing a whole lot better. Woke up feeling like doggie do-do yesterday. Was all I could do to deal with the baby. Been in the news again the last couple of days. Since I am already on a downer it hasn't been very helpful. Wish I could wake up from this nightmare.
Feeling better physically today but definitely not up to par. One minute at a time.

Oh O, I was hoping you were feeling better. I had a feeling things weren't so hot for you when we didn't hear from you. Glad your back, though. I'm sorry for your troubles with the stinking media, that would be an added burden to your load. Keeping you in mind and prayer.
Wendy

Hi O, yes, one minute at a time. Moment by moment. I'm sorry about the media, maybe Britney or Paris will pull one of their stunts and push you aside, LOL. Can you believe what this world has become when someone not wearing underwear is front page news? Well, anyway, back over on the diet thread...I was thinking, when one wakes up feeling like doggie doo-doo than all bets are off and diets only consist of high calorie, fatty carbs! (and chocolate)! :)

CHOCOLATE! That's the ticket. (hunting through the cupboards) Ah ha. Found some chocolate syrup. Guess I'll have to do it straight.:D

:yes: You can freeze it on a piece of wax paper, than eat it. Er, uh, not that I ever tried that. :blush: Just don't eat the wax paper. :)

Then I have to wait for my chocolate. Maybe I can do some straight shots now and freeze some for later.

Then I have to wait for my chocolate. Maybe I can do some straight shots now and freeze some for later.

Oops. Double posted. Puter did it.

I just spit half my drink all over mine, shots of chocolate! TOO FUNNY!

Alcohol abuse! Alcohol abuse!!!!!

HAHA! Never mind the poor puter!

Sometimes my puter seems to have a mind of it's own.:cool:
It surely couldn't have anything to do with the operator.:rolleyes:

Lol, my biggest thing is pass words. A trillion different ones, and can never remember any of them, than I end up going through the d*** security questions, and usually can't remember the d*** answers to those!

Took me several days to figure out how to use the chat at the bowling alley. Still working on the lingo. I'm so puter literate.

I never tried that chat thing, I don't think I could chat and bowl, I'd lose my turn by the time I got through typing! Plus, yea, I've seen some of the lingo in chat rooms, it's foreign to me.

It is like learning a foreign language. From what I've seen the few times I've been there, there isn't really a whole lot of chatting going on. A lot of nxs, ggs, nts, tys and the like. ?????

Braille? Morse Code? Crytograms?

Dunno. I do know that I lost my turn a few times just trying to read the stuff and figure out what it was. Forget about actually typing something.

Hahaha, do they know your there or are you invisible? I don't even text on my phone, I'm way behind!

Hi O, hope your doing alright...I got my shopping done than became a couch potato watching movies. So, haven't been on, but you are always in my thoughts and prayers as well as your son is.
I also hope you found somebody else to "share" all that fish with, LOL. Take care.

Thanks Reggie. Doin OK. Just posted somewhere about a storm and cleaning up, etc.... I haven't been on either but was having withdrawals so had to peek in this AM. Haven't found anyone to share my fish with yet. Maybe Bless will volunteer to make some more exotic doggy treats.

Got a letter from my son on Sat. YIPPEE!!!!! It was just a short one but it was something. They gave him an indigent kit so he could write home. Now just need to figure out what to do with it before the as***** DA decides to take this one too.

O, I am so glad you got a letter from your son! bet that made you feel better!

O, so glad to hear that you got a letter from your son. Don't you feel like a kid when the mailman comes? :D :D Everyday I hope to get a letter. Since we have been able to talk on the phone, he hasn't been writing. Well the funds are gone for now so he needs to get the pencil and paper out and start writing. :) :) Have a blessed week...

Reggie, I see you and O had a party without Wendy and I. :( :( Can't find you guys if you keep hopping from one house to another.:D :D Drinks and what fish was served......I'm working during the day now so I don't have as much time in the evenings to play. :( Plus I have to fight for the computer (kids mostly). :D I'm off today but need to get my butt in gear and clean this house. My mom/dad are coming down this weekend so we can go together and see my son. They haven't seen him since Christmas last year I think. :( :( Ok, got to go. Molly Maid is not going to clean my house so gotta go. Take care all and have a blessed day.

What's this? There was a fiesta, and I wasn't there? I can't turn my back for a minute, and not miss something! Hubby had six guys over here yesterday to watch the football games, one of whom is from northern CA. and just here for another week. He spent the night, so I was playing hostess all day yesterday, when I really wanted to be here with you guys. I missed y'all and couldn't wait for them to get out that door this morning! The house is in complete disarray this morning and needing some serious attention! I'll get to it when I get to it. Had to check in first!
Wendy

Hey all, yes, O and I had to hang out here at her place that night cause we couldn't find any parties to crash...think everyone was at the bowling alley. So we've all been playing "drunken hines", er, I mean Dunkin Hines, and Molly Maid this weekend, huh? I know about that storm O, I think it was the same one we had during the A.M., I had to go out shopping in it...wasn't pretty! And downright COLD! I am soooo happy for you about the letter from your son! WOOHOO!!!! Wrap it in some tinfoil and mark "fish" on it, than stash it in the freezer so those dumb***** can't take it too. Hmph, we'll show them, we can get creative around here, LOL. Well it is late, just wanted to check in and congratulate you on finally getting to hear from your son, I pray many more letters, calls, and visits will now be restored to you. Take care, keeping you in prayer, always!

Venting, venting, venting!!! Had one of those very frustrating days. Spent part of it trying to get info from the jail, AGAIN. Spent part of it screaming at my insurance company cause they said they were not going to renew my homeowners insurance. They are trying to tell me I have to close in the bottom of my house. HUH? I told them they need to look at the pictures of my house that they have on file and tell me how the hay I'm supposed to do that. Bunch of idiots.
For the last several days I have been getting tons of calls asking if everything is OK. Apparently the police have decided to sit out in front of my house to catch speeders. I guess what bothers me is most of these people don't really care, they are just being nosy.
And then, one of the people who I actually thought did care told me I was spending too much time worrying about my son that is going to die anyway. I just hung up. I can't believe somebody would say something like that under any circumstances. Anyway, it's not been a very good day.

For the last several days I have been getting tons of calls asking if everything is OK. Apparently the police have decided to sit out in front of my house to catch speeders. I guess what bothers me is most of these people don't really care, they are just being nosy.
And then, one of the people who I actually thought did care told me I was spending too much time worrying about my son that is going to die anyway. I just hung up. I can't believe somebody would say something like that under any circumstances. Anyway, it's not been a very good day.

:angry: tell the cops to move on, I mean it, walk out there and politely ask the officer if he could park elsewhere due to the recent sad problems you have had.

:eek: :mad: how dare someone some idiot...some insensitive person with no heart..... tell you your son is going to die????????:mad:

what is wrong with people these days????? God help me I am going to lose it here....they had better just hope nothing ever happens to their children!! they have no clue the pain they cause!!! grrr and dammit!!!

on another note:
you women keep crashing here at my place, all I do is empty ashtrays, sweep up broken glass, shut off the flickering TV, and hang the portable phones back up to recharge them...lol

the refrig is empty the sink full of your dirty dishes, the dog pee'd on the carpet because no one let him out, would someone please wash the wet towels and make up the beds???

if you clean your rooms, you can have a pj party again tonight. :D

on another note:
you women keep crashing here at my place, all I do is empty ashtrays, sweep up broken glass, shut off the flickering TV, and hang the portable phones back up to recharge them...lol

the refrig is empty the sink full of your dirty dishes, the dog pee'd on the carpet because no one let him out, would someone please wash the wet towels and make up the beds???

if you clean your rooms, you can have a pj party again tonight. :D ROTF Jancy! I'll make a store run and clean up my room, than I'll pick up Pebblelina, she's run out of things to clean at her place, LOL. :D

O, I am so sorry, I agree with Jancy. Ask them to move it on down the road. :mad: As for those nosy bodie's, I say just don't answer the phone, if you have caller ID, than just ignore them all. I have to be careful now when I refer to the very cold hearted, ignorant, dumba*** who said what she did regarding your son. May the good Lord continue to Bless her so she never feels the pain you and many others do. There is no hope for people like that, sometimes I wonder if those kind of people, so heartless even have a soul. Screw her, that's all I can say. Sorry, little vent there. As for the insurance, they are something, eh? I've never had such a hard time with renter's insurance, all because I live within xxx feet of coastal waters. No one wants to cover the area because of hurricanes and floods, but isn't that the point of insurance? Shheeezzeee! So how's it going with the jail, are they giving you some answers, finally? I say if things don't change we all go march right in there! Haha, alot of irate mom's, could get really scary for them! I think we should take Jancy's advise and meet up later for a good cut-loose forget it all kinda night, hubby's in the dog house right now anyway. :p Hang in there, O. We are praying for you.

Haha, alot of irate mom's, could get really scary for them!
perhaps our children DO indeed have some of our genes as well as their fathers...lol

Haha, ain't no woman like a woman scorned! Or harassed. Or...ok so just peeved in general, LOL.

You have to wonder what some people are using for brains!!!?!?!! To say something so callous and hurtful -- why???? I don't understand why people say hurtful things. Does it make them feel superior? Do they think they're psuedo-Dr.Phils??? grrrrr Makes you wanna have a dog that snarls and bites!

And ::::pulling out the hot rollers from the head:::: if we need to march on the jail, I want to know whatch-ya-ll are wearing? capris? armor? kevlar? Is this with makeup or without? (Without is better to scare them! but with is better for the newspaper photos!) I have new comfie shoes with which to march for blocks! Signs! we'll need signs!

Mary, the renegade

now just look what we have done to our dear sweet mary!

Jancy ROTF!
Mary, you always paint such a vivid picture! I'll go without make up and be the frightening one to scare them back so we have lots of room for all our signs. Than we'll put Wendy up front for a severe tongue lashing, she can repeat it En Espanol to make sure everyone comprehends!

Just checking in on you O. Last I heard you were battling dust ogres, so I got worried maybe you were over taken or something. Or maybe you are just on a chocolate binge???? :)

:help: They got me. HELP!
(Found out they like chocolate too.):D

Quick!!!! Throw a pinata at'em!!!!!!!

Ewwww. Now I got a different kind of mess.

EEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!! and I wanna get a puppy!

Have one of those too. EEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!

I don't yet and without any little ones, I'm lonely. Been waiting to see if hubby is gonna deploy again, but I need a pet at least! LOL

Check the shelter first. See if you can find a nice dog that is already potty trained. This puppy is driving me nuts. Knows it's gonna get in trouble if it goes potty in the house so now has learned how to hide and go potty in the house. UGH. And it eats and chews up everything. Actually jumped up on the counter and ate the meat I had out to thaw for dinner. Never dealt with a dog like this before. Get a little one that can't get up on anything.

That's one reason I've been waiting! I know it has to be a careful choice, I do want a teenytiny little thing so I can house train it, cause I know I won't always take it out for a walk. Plus I live in a loft/apartment, so no yard.

I have lotso dogs. 6. They were all unwanted and I guess I'm a sucker. Plus, we are kinda out in the country so people dump their dogs on the side of the road out here. It's so sad. The littlist one is a Llasa Apso. Vet said he thinks she is purebred. Found her on the side of the road. Said it was probably a show dog breeder that dumped her. She isn't the perfect color and she has a bigger underbite than desired. Don't get how people can be so cruel.

awe, how sad. That's one law I wish they would make a felony, cruelty to animals. Poor things, they can't speak up. Than these idiots with puppy mills, or dog fighting. Just cruel. My hubby wants to go to the shelter to look, but I'm afraid I'll start bawling my eyes out!

Yeah. When I found this dog the vet estimated she was like 4 months old. She was terrified. Like she had been locked in a room and didn't know about anything. She was afraid of everything. The birds singing, leaves falling, the TV, just everything. So sad.

awe, poor poor baby! Thank God she's in your care now. Wow, you have your hands full though! How does she get along with the little one? or vise-versa, LOL!

They get along great. As far as the little one is concerned it is her dog and vice-versa. Don't mess with her baby.

Voice of experience here...

Do not roller blade around dust bunnies....... they catch fire!
That makes for a larger mess.

And roping the vacuum onto the ceiling fan and turning it on high does not work well unless you turn the vacuum 'on.'

And I personally keep the vacuum out in the middle of the room and if anyone pulls into the driveway, I quick turn it on and muss my hair a tad and look busy when i answer the door. They never ask what I was doing.

Mary

Love it. I'll be sure not to roller blade, especially since mine have grown to dust ogres.
Speaking of dust ogres, I still have many to tackle. Gonna put the vaccuum in the middle of the floor though just in case I get sidetracked again.(Actually its called procrastination.)

Voice of experience here...

Do not roller blade around dust bunnies....... they catch fire!
That makes for a larger mess.

And roping the vacuum onto the ceiling fan and turning it on high does not work well unless you turn the vacuum 'on.'

And I personally keep the vacuum out in the middle of the room and if anyone pulls into the driveway, I quick turn it on and muss my hair a tad and look busy when i answer the door. They never ask what I was doing.

Mary
:D :D :D Oh Miss Mary, thank you for brightening my day! I was sitting here in tears (again) and laughed MAO when I read this. hahaha Thanks! :thumbsup:

what's a vacumm?

At my house I think it's that funny looking thing that sits in the corner and collects dust.

I have a longstanding feud with vacuums. they blow more dust than they pick up... the cheap ones never last, the expensive ones are out of my reach, the one I have takes King Kong to push it along the carpet, the one I just threw out never fit any bag made, I could go on and on as the whole vacuum inventory sucks...I take that back...never sucks...LOL

So I guess I won't be borrowing yours! :p Maybe you can borrow one of O's big ogres to push it around for you? :D

YOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO! Ovie!!!!!! I'm thinking those were not ogres and maybe band members? Seems that's about when you started going MIA, come to think of, that's when Wendy went too. :)

O, we miss you! Hope everything is alright. You and your family are always in my prayers. God Bless.

Hoping all is okay. come and chekc in with us. :)

Jancy LOL oh the ole vaccum cleaner sagga. LOL I know that feeling. I now have a 7 lb oreck and I love it. :)

Hey all. Sorry to say things are not OK. Guess I'm in one of those meltdown cycles. It has taken everything I've had to get through the last couple of days. Had company come in Thurs. eve.(brother & fiance) It was good to see him. Haven't seen him for a few years. BUT, I guess I'm just feeling a little hurt that he didn't even ask about my son. Not one word. The subject came up once because the lawyer called while he was here but he changed the subject very quickly. He didn't ask how I was holding up or anything.:(
Hubby and I haven't been getting along at all for the last several weeks. He spent the whole weekend sh**faced and being an a**hole. He doesn't seem to be able to be civil to anyone anymore. Can't deal with his crap on top of everything else.
The jail is still giving my son a hard time. They keep losing and/or ignoring his paperwork to get his property back. They have everything. All his toiletries, his clothes (socks, underwear, etc.), his pictures, everything. They keep 'forgetting' to pick up his commisary order so he hasn't been able to get anything from there either. Guess it's too much to ask for them to at least attempt to do their jobs.:angry:
My son called yesterday. He is so depressed. Was crying and everything. It just breaks my heart. He is so alone and hurting and there isn't a darn thing I can do.:( :( :(
Anyway, I could go on but I won't. Quite frankly, I'm cying so much right now I can barely see the keys. I really hope everyone is doing better than I am. Take care. God bless you all.

Ovie, I am truly sorry. :( Your brother probably just doesn't know what to say, and may be uncomfortable (ya know how men can be), or maybe he's worried to say the wrong thing. He should have talked to you about it more, but again, sometimes guys just don't know how to open up. The treatment of your son infuriates me beyond everything else!!! There is no reason nor excuse for them to treat him like that. %*#@*&@!!!!! It is so heartbreaking to know your child is hurting, and be so *&#@***!!! helpless to do anything about it. I am just so very sorry...I wish I could do something to help you in some way. Hubby I'm sure doesn't mean to be this way, sounds like he's having a hard time too and it's just easier to get loaded. Only problem with that is, than you end up being insensitive cause your drunk and angry so it all comes out in a not so good way. He's hurting too, just doesn't seem to know how to deal with it all. One good thing, at least they are letting him call. I know it has to hurt like he!! to hear his pain though, but at least you can hear from him first hand how they are treating him. Keep raising he!! about it, demand they get their act together. It will help him tremendously to at least have his basic needs met. Ohhh it makes me so mad! I know there really is nothing I can say to ease your pain, just know we are all here for you. Please try to take care of yourself too, you need to be healthy for yourself and for your son. Anytime you want to talk, we are here. BIG (((HUGS))) I'm praying for you and your family. God Bless You!

O, I have to agree with Reg, regarding your brother. They already know there is nothing they can say to ease our pain, so they figure, "why bother" I'm sorry you're having rotten moments with hubby, but I can sure understand where he's coming from too. Since my nightmare began in July, I've darn near pickled myself a few times. I think this is probably the point you might consider couple counseling, just so the two of you can share the pain of what it is you are both going through, and not handling it separatley. He thinks he's handling it his way, and you your way, but in truth you need each other right now, even if he has made you angry with his behavior. I'm so sad about what is happening at the jail with your son, and their obvious mistreatment of him. That has to be the icing on the cake for you. We're praying for you and him O, and your husband too, he needs it as well. I hope today's a new day for you and you come back, our good ol' O.
Wendy

God Bless You Ovie, (((hugs))).

He Catches Our Tears In His Hands
There are seasons of life that yield so much pain that even God's children might doubt He is there. For the trial is long and they've shed many tears while sobbing in the midst of their prayers.
Yet, God loves us so much...even in our deep pain and He's listening to every word that we say. He sees the heartache, knowing all we endure and every unspoken prayer we might pray.
He's so near to the broken hearts, who carry such sorrow and His silence means He's letting us speak. For He's still the God who listens...like a Father to His children every time that we earnestly seek.
And God knows there's a time for everything on earth a time for mourning...lament...or great sorrow. Just as sure as the day comes when the burden is lifted and His joy brings the sunrise tomorrow.
He treasures every time His children lift their faces to the heavens for His gracious relief. For His Spirit gives the comfort & courage to go on when souls are tired from the load of their grief.
Despite any doubts we might have in our weakness & struggles and all the miles where we don't understand, Our Father is still listening as every teardrop falls and He catches each one in His hands.
~~ Author Unknown

Hey guys. Just checking in real quick to let ya'll know that I'm still here and plugging along. Doing a lot of reading to try to catch up a bit. Not in the right mind set to be able to reply but working on it. Somebody is trying to organize us so now I'm all confused. Go figure.
Thanks to Reggie and Wendy. I know ya'll are right about my brother. Guess in a way I wanted big brother to fix it or make it better and he can't. Think I stressed myself even more cause I tried so hard to make him think I was doing OK when I'm really not.
I know in my head that hubby is just trying to deal too. Just having a hard time with how he's dealing, or not dealing. Guess it goes both ways.
Gonna try again to go see my son this afternoon, maybe. If I go I have to take the baby so not quite sure if it's gonna happen. She hasn't been yet. Been talking to her about it for a while to try to prepare for when I do take her. Now I have to come up with a way to explain the cuffs. Haven't figured that one out yet. Was planning on trying to take her when there was 2 adults there in case she can't handle it but it's not looking like that scenario is gonna happen. We'll see. Still trying to decide.
Well, prayers to all. Hope everyone is hanging in there.



P.S. Thanks for the poem Reggie!

O- when I visited my son in any jail he never had cuffs on.

My son is still in isolation. Anytime he leaves his cell he is cuffed. So now we have glass, phones and cuffs. UGH.

Ovietor. Hi how ya doing ? I am sorry I haven't been posting a lot, my home puter is still down. so my time is very limited.

I was reading over the posts here to catch up and I want to comment on something. you talk about being in the news alot. please, I know how hard it is, but when you go into the public eye.. HOLD YOUR HEAD UP, don't let them make you feel ashamed or low or anything.
Don't take crap from anyone.
oh, and about your mail that the da takes... check on that... unless there is pertinent info on the case, they have no right in my way of thinking to take any. also find out When not if they will be returning it. stay on top of them about his property. don't sit idle complaining. start driving them nuts w/ calls and such. have you talked to the warden ?
and I know how much stress you are going through, but everyone here is supporting you and praying for you. this morning I was reading in Job. chapters 1 & 2. toward the end of chapter 2, job says..." Should we take only good things from God and not trouble ?" that really ministered to me. The more you turn to the Word, and less time thinking about the problems, God will work for your good.
we are holding you in prayer.

Hi O, it's fine if your not feeling up to posting, just know we are here for you, always. I just love D'Gals advice, always right on. I do hope you will get to see your son today. I remember you saying the baby is very close to him, and it would probably make them both very happy to see each other. As for the cuffs, well she is really not old enough to comprehend, maybe embellish a little and say they are his special bracelets? I'm keeping you in my prayers O, hang in there. God Bless.

I'm back. Went to see my son this afternoon. Glad I decided to go. Almost didn't get to see him cause he got himself in trouble again but it all worked out. Apparently someone at the jail didn't like that I got his lawyer involved about his property so they told him he wasn't getting it back. Well, he threw (for lack of better words) a temper tantrum so they took the little bit of mail he had gotten since he got priveleges back and told him his priveleges were revoked again. Anyway, when I got there to go see him they told me I couldn't and weren't giving me a reason. Mom was not a happy camper. Got the sargeant involved and she came out to talk to me. She was very nice and very helpful. There really are a few good ones out there. Anyway, after all was said and done she let me see him. Also said she wasn't going to give him a DR and would get him his property and his commissary and make sure they knew his priveleges were reinstated. AND since I had the baby with me she had them take his cuffs off for the visit. Hopefully it will all work out that way. Won't know till I'm able to talk to or see him again. The baby wouldn't talk to him. She doesn't want to talk on the phone(any phone), but they sat and made faces at each other and stuff and she had him smiling a few times. First time I've seen one of those. So, mom is feeling much better tonight!
I also saw his lawyer and talked to him a bit while I was there and I met the lead investigator on his case and talked to her a bit too. So I got a few more answers to some things that were nagging at me and feel better about all that too. Turned out to be a good day and I'm thanking GOD that I decided to go. Actually I'm sure it was him that gave me the nudge I needed.
And D'gal, I did all that stuff. In my sons type of case (in the state of FL anyway) the DA pretty much has free rein. They can do whatever they want and take whatever they want. All 'evidence' is held for at least 3 years after conviction. So we have to be very careful about everything. I can't keep a journal, I have to watch what I say on my own phone, can't see a couselor, can't do anything that might help cause it's possible for them to gain access to it all.
As far as the media is concerned, and going out into public for that matter, I'm still working on that. Still tend to want to be a hermit. Seems as soon as I'm feeling better about all that something else pops up in the media and sends me scurrying back. Don't think that will go away till after the trial so for now I'm a hermit.
Thanking everyone again for all the prayers. Living proof that they do work. God Bless you all.

O, WOW! I was praying for some good news, but this is awesome! I'm so so happy for you! Praise God for that Sgt. and her good sense and willingness to help. Yes there are some good ones, I'm so glad she was there today. I can picture the baby and your son being silly, nothing like a sweet child to make you feel better! I'm sure it brightened his day so much. I'm just so happy for you O! We will sure keep those prayers going for you! :)

O.. glad to hear things went better when you went to see him. Ques.. if you kept a personal journal, it is your property, and how would they know anyhow ? do they come into your house and inspect looking for things ? how about a diary ? how would they know it is really a journal ? just trying to come up w/ suggestions here.
and by the way, I feel I owe you an apology. Was thinking last night about my post and it may sound kinda harsh ? didn't mean it that way. was a bad day for me and just typed w/o thinking of my wording. sorry.
Continue to trust God for things to come out according to His plan/will. He will always do the best for you.

No apology necessary D'gal. Didn't seem harsh to me and I know you are only trying to help. Which you are, by the way.
As far as I'm concerned the letters they took were addressed to me and were my personal property. They haven't come back into the house again, now they are just sending subpeonas. BUT, if I did have something like that and it was subpeona'd(SP?) and I didn't give it to them then I could go to jail. Not willing to take that chance. Granted, I'm sure it's a slim one that they would take my journal or whatever but the possibility is there. Don't want my personal life and feelings a matter of public record.

O, so glad you got to visit. That Sgt. must be a mother herself! Cheers me up to hear you sounding upbeat!
Wendy

O, so glad you got to visit. That Sgt. must be a mother herself! Cheers me up to hear you sounding upbeat!
Wendy

Thanks Wendy. And yes, the Sgt. is a mother. As a matter of fact, one of her kids came in to see her while I was talking to her.

BTW, haven't found anything yet about how your in-laws are doing. Hope things are settling down some for you.

O, I am sooo happy things went well for you and that God put that Sgt in your path. I want you to now you are a STRONG woman that has shown what perserverance will do. Thank you for that testimony because I needed that. Keep your head up and believe me when I say that was just a taste of what God can and will do for you and your family.

I am teary eyed knowing you saw your son smile.
sigh...

Well, so much for the Sgt. Went to see my son Sat. night and he still has nothing! Guess she just wanted to get rid of an irate mother. Now it's on to the Major and the lawyer again. Grrrrr! So much for there being good ones out there.

And on the personal side, looks like hubby and I are going for seperation.
So yeah, life is pretty much upside down and inside out right now. Hope I make it through all this.

how long are you married? I chose to end my 32 yr marriage when I turned 50-5 yrs ago. I was terrified.

I highly recommend going to counseling before hand with and or without him to make sure.

I see you out here upholding others. that shows me your great love and compassion even in the face of your own troubles. very unselfish of you! hang in there, O

Well GRRRRRRRR!:angry: Got absolutely nowhere with the jail today. Gee, what a surprise. Didn't even get to talk to anybody in charge. Everyone was busy all day long. But they would take a message and have them call me back. Yeah right. They know who I am by my voice now. Not sure whether that's good or bad. Did talk to the lawyer though. Said he was gonna go to the jail personally tomorrow and talk to the Major to see whats going on. Well, I'm not gonna hold my breath but we'll see.

And Jancy, scared doesn't even begin to desribe it. It will be 24 yrs. this July.

Pours O a nice strong one, pulls up a chair...downs a shot... well d*m*. It is beyond my comprehension why these people are making things way more difficult than it needs to be. Hopefully the lawyer will get somewhere with them. I imagine hubby is scared too, maybe this will pass,... I'm sorry O. Pours two more.

Oh yes. Just what the doctor ordered.:beer: THANKS!

Um yeah. It is beyond my comprehension too. (just deleted a bunch of majorly not nice things I was going to say):rolleyes: I yelled it instead. I'm sure you must have heard me. (Me thinks I'm a tad on the angry side today.)

LOL, I heard ya! And with all the yelling I did of my own, we made some noise from GA to FL....whew! I do know what you mean though, I'm so mad at the people where my son is, I really could scream. I just don't know why they have to be so heartless, but I take comfort in karma. Awe... and great fantasies, heehee. Hey nothing wrong with dreaming! :)

Karma, I like that. Yes, it will bite them in the behind. hehe

Yikes, almost dreamed out loud. Must watch my tongue. Itsa gonna get me in trouble.

Haha! yep, it's gonna get them one day...I know it's not right to gloat, but I can't help myself! heehee! Ready for another?

More please.:clap: :clap: :clap:

I hear ya, down to just Bud light, but I'm pretending it's good and strong! Oh yea, there is Guiness too, blah, me no like it though!

No, me no likem weirdo beer either. Tried a black & tan the other day. Major yucko.

I can do some, but not the dark ones. EEEWWW! Abu Graib(Sp) documentary is on...they should care so much about our own prisons. OOPS! Thinking out loud again!

EEEKKKK. I just didn't answer a phone call from my step-monster. She wants to come visit for a few weeks. Don't think that is something I want to deal with right now. Think I'm gonna have to hunt up something stronger than Bud Light.

heehee, I found one of those bottles of Jack, it was left over from Christmas, someone gave it to hubby, I stuck in the feezer. Oh man, talk about bad timing with the MIL!

Not MIL, step-monster. My parents got divorced and my dad remarried. My mother lives here with me.

Ohhhhhhh.......even worse. Oh dear, here you take the shot!

Thanks, I needed that.

your welcome........I wish I could wave a magic wand for you and make everything better. :(
I will pray for you, like I pray for for my own children...I hold you up to the Lord, before us all. Your son, you, and your family....I pray and I know the Lord will answer. He has a plan, even if we do not understand it, He will not forsake you. (((hugs))) Love and Prayers...

Thanks Reggie. I'm trying to hold on but sometimes it is so very hard. It seems like every time I turn around another shoe drops. I'm tripping all over those shoes there are so many. I want to understand why all this is happening to me and my family. I know I have to be patient but it is so very hard when those shoes keep hitting me in the head.
Love and prayers for you and your son too.

Hi O, just checking in on you......you are always in my thoughts and prayers. I'm sorry about all those shoes dropping, sigh. I know how hard it is trying to understand, wanting answers to be able to understand. Only God knows why. Maybe it's not for us to understand, but only accept. I just don't know either, so that is what I try to do. Just know we are all here for you, and your son and your family are in my prayers. God Bless You Ovie! (((hugs)))

Hanging in, barely. Got myself so stressed out about everything that I made myself sick. Guess I'm in a barely functioning mode again. The sh** just keeps piling up.
Been trying to post but seems I'm just at a loss for words lately. For anyone who may read this, just know that I am keeping everyone in my prayers even if I don't reply directly to your post.
God Bless you all.

I know the feeling all too well O. Hubby is monitoring my BP today, good thing he's a medic. I am sooooooooo PO'd right now, I could scream!
SCCCCRRRREEEAAAAAMMMMM!!!!!
Sorry, hope that didn't hurt your ears. O, you are always in my prayers, I hope they got things straightened out with your son. Take care of yourself...God Bless.

Hi O, I haven't been posting 'til today either, I'll be on more tomorrow. I'm sorry you and Reg are both having a rotten time of things right now. Reg keep an eye on that blood pressure, we can't have you stroking out on us, we love ya' too darn much. O, I hope you are taking care of yourself.
Wendy

Yeah. My BP is being monitored closely, too. Seems on top of everything else I was forgetting to take my meds. Can't remember if I have taken them or not. Got a new game plan for that now so hopefully it will work.

Things are still not straightened out with my son. Get nothing but lies and bullsh**. At least as far as I know he is safe. Can't imagine how you are feeling.

Hubby is having some major stomach problems. He has had a few tests and they haven't figured it out yet. Now they say they think he has a hyadil(sp?) hernia. Going to a specialist next week. I'm stressing myself out over this cause that is what they said my father had. When they took him in for surgery they discovered it was cancer and not a hernia. He died less than 3 months later.

And now my mother fell yesterday and hurt herself. Is supposed to come home tomorrow from the hospital. Nothing broken, thank goodnes, but they just wanted to keep an eye on her to make sure there isn't anything more than major bumps and bruises. She bruises very easily so she really looks bad.

Middle son is moving out this week too. So losing another baby.

Don't Forget Those Meds! Lordy O, you've got a lot of folk relying on you to be healthy. I know that's not much consolence to you, when you feel so down a lot of the time. But where would be without our O. No pressure!!!
Wendy

Yeah. My BP is being monitored closely, too. Seems on top of everything else I was forgetting to take my meds. Can't remember if I have taken them or not. Got a new game plan for that now so hopefully it will work.

Things are still not straightened out with my son. Get nothing but lies and bullsh**. At least as far as I know he is safe. Can't imagine how you are feeling.

Hubby is having some major stomach problems. He has had a few tests and they haven't figured it out yet. Now they say they think he has a hyadil(sp?) hernia. Going to a specialist next week. I'm stressing myself out over this cause that is what they said my father had. When they took him in for surgery they discovered it was cancer and not a hernia. He died less than 3 months later.

And now my mother fell yesterday and hurt herself. Is supposed to come home tomorrow from the hospital. Nothing broken, thank goodnes, but they just wanted to keep an eye on her to make sure there isn't anything more than major bumps and bruises. She bruises very easily so she really looks bad.

Middle son is moving out this week too. So losing another baby.

O, you, your son, your hubby, your mother.....your entire family are in my prayers. You, my dear friend, please take care of you. If I could take even one burden from you, I surely would. Your strength amazes me, and God knows your sacrifices, as well as your trust. You will not be forgotten nor forsaken, O. God Bless You!

So far the game plan on the meds is working. Had gotten one of those daily pill keepers that was child resistant. Gave it to the baby and she opened it right up. That plan went out the window fast.

Supposedly the lawyer is supposed to talk to the major today. I've heard that story before so we'll see.

My mother came home yesterday. She is doing OK. Very sore and bruised all over, but OK.

I take hubby to the specialist today. Don't know if we will get any answers today. Have to wait and see.

Middle son is starting to pack up his stuff today. I really hate this.

Thanking everyone for all the prayers. Keeping everyone in my prayers. God Bless you all.

Ovietor, You sure have a plate full. I pray your husband will be okay. Keep a close eye out for dear mama, that took the fall. A few months bacK my mom took a fall also and from being so sore darned if she did'nt fall again a week later. Back to the hospital she went , thank God she did'nt break anything either time. I'll keep your family in my prayers. Oh and about that pill keeper thingy they sell one at the drug store that cost a bit more that has a lever-lock. This one my sister uses and it hold a months worth of meds. It is sopposed to be child resistant. I think she bought it at walgreens. God be with you O. Mercedes

Saying many prayers for you and your family O....God Bless you and God Bless your family.

Father please hear our prayers for Ovietor and her family. This family has endured so many burdens, all at once, and for such a long time. Please Lord, lift those burdens, and grant this family peace. Please be with them at the specialist today, please Lord, Bless O's husband with good health, and God speed a healthy recovery for her mother. Please let the lawyer get answers today. Thank you Lord! AMEN.

O, I will be thinking and praying for you and your family today. I so hope your hubby will be OK.
Wendy

How did it go today O?
Wendy

Well still know nothing. Pretty much expected that. He has all kinds of tests scheduled. Looks like it will be a couple of weeks before we get any answers.

The lawyer didn't call yesterday so I can only assume he didn't do what he said he was going to do. Just don't understand why it is so difficult to get answers. I really think the guards get their jollies by torturing the families. GRRRRRR.

My mother is on the mend. Just keeping a close eye on her.

Middle son packed up and took some stuff away. Will be back today to get more. The baby is very upset. She doesn't understand what her daddy is doing. Gotta find the strength to get through this one too.

You'll find the strength O, you always do. It seems everytime your plate gets a little lighter, someone comes along with another helping. I hope your hubby will be OK. The next couple of weeks will be trying for you with the testing and waiting etc. Just know we are hear, and thinking of you and your family. Bless you O, I wish there was more I could say, or do for you, I surely would.
Wendy

I misspelled here, tried to correct it but it went through that way anyway!

And again I'm sitting here crying. I just talked to my son. They finally let him make a phone call. He is soooo sad and soooo depressed and I am so helpless to help him. I HATE this.
They still haven't given him his property. He hasn't been getting his mail. They did give him his commisary, or at least some of it. I guess some is better than none. Seems like they are purposely messing with his head. He doesn't want me to call the jail anymore. He says it just pisses them off and they mess with him more. Why does it have to be this way? What is wrong with these people? I HATE THIS, I HATE THIS, I HATE THIS!!!!!

Of all the times he should have been able to call, it had to be today. If it's any consolation, all inmates are sad and depressed while in county. They can't wait to get to prison, if that makes any sense. Even in CA, the CO's mess with the inmates in county. My son told me of an inmate that was mentally challenged and the guards were ruthless to him. Constantly waking him during the night, knowing he would awake in a confused state, and laughing uncontrollably at what he would say in that state. I know it has nothing to do with your son, just wanted to shed light on the fact, that it isn't just your boy that is a cause for amusement at the hands of these idiots. They do seem to take pleasure in others misery. It is so sad. Your boy will be much better off when his trial is finished, and he gets settled in his home prison. I never thought that would be the encouraging words I'd ever give, but it's true for all of them.
So sorry for the sad call. UUURRRRGGGGH! When he's out of county, things will be much better for him, and when things are better for him, they will be better for you. You will see a big change in the way he sounds, and his whole attitude and personna. How much longer will his trial be, O?
Wendy

Hi O. it is hard to know that we are helpless to a point of doing more for our kids. about the only thing we can do, is continue to support them, love them, pray for them. write them often. etc. just continue.
I know what he is saying about not callig anymore. my son, since he has been @ prison (7 mos) has requested to see chaplain. still nothing. I offered to call he said NO. he will just continue to request, and one day it'll happen.
It is hard too to know that the 'officials' degrade them freely. words hurt more than if they were beat. physical bruises heal. internal ones take a lot longer.
Stand fast, hold onto the Lord. He walks this with you.

Lord have Mercy! Pleaseeee find a way IN and lift them Out!

:cry: And again I'm sitting here crying. I just talked to my son. They finally let him make a phone call. He is soooo sad and soooo depressed and I am so helpless to help him. I HATE this.
They still haven't given him his property. He hasn't been getting his mail. They did give him his commisary, or at least some of it. I guess some is better than none. Seems like they are purposely messing with his head. He doesn't want me to call the jail anymore. He says it just pisses them off and they mess with him more. Why does it have to be this way? What is wrong with these people? I HATE THIS, I HATE THIS, I HATE THIS!!!!!
:cry: Ovie.... I cry for your son... A...is in my heart, in my thoughts, and always in my Prayers. I know how it feels to be helpless, and feel like they take pleasure in hurting our kids. I hate it too. The good news, is that God KNOWS, who those EVIL people are, and even if not in this life time..... they will answer in the next. This gives me much pleasure and comfort. Even if for the wrong reasons, it is TRUE and JUST...and that is where my pleasure comes. Even if it is selfish, it is TRUE. :) Believe me, the LORD has the FINAL say....

Thanks for the reminder Reggie. It is somewhat comforting to know that. They will answer for there actions in the end.

Been looking for a bible to send him.(If they decide to let him have it). Looking for a study bible but they don't seem to have any in paperback. Called the jail to see if he could have leather bound but nobody knew the answer. I know I can't be the only person who has asked that.GRRRRRR. I have a call in to the chaplain to see if he knows anything.

It just angers me that they have to be this way. He was doing a bible study when he was in population but of course all that was taken away when he went to isolation. That stuff is also supposedly in his property which they won't give him back. GRRRRR. I told him when he called to go ahead and buy some more t-shirts etc... cause he came to his visits shaking he was so cold. He told me he wasn't going to bother. He has nothing to do but sit on his bed and he wraps in his blanket if he is cold. They don't have laundry in isolation so he would only be able to rinse them out in his cell. How is sitting in a cell with nothing to do but stare at the walls humane? GRRRR

Also found out today that my hubby and I will not be able to be in the courtroom during his trial. Because we have been subpeonad by the state attorney as witnesses we aren't able to be in the courtroom to support our son until after we have both testified. Thought it was bad enough that we were called as witnesses for the prosecution but now I find this out. I can't believe they are doing this to us.

hey O, we sent a paperback Bible to David.. sent Amplified Bible. go to ChristianBook Club .com you can find a bunch of different things there. just put in Bibles and then paperback

Thanks for the reminder Reggie. It is somewhat comforting to know that. They will answer for there actions in the end.

Been looking for a bible to send him.(If they decide to let him have it). Looking for a study bible but they don't seem to have any in paperback. Called the jail to see if he could have leather bound but nobody knew the answer. I know I can't be the only person who has asked that.GRRRRRR. I have a call in to the chaplain to see if he knows anything.

It just angers me that they have to be this way. He was doing a bible study when he was in population but of course all that was taken away when he went to isolation. That stuff is also supposedly in his property which they won't give him back. GRRRRR. I told him when he called to go ahead and buy some more t-shirts etc... cause he came to his visits shaking he was so cold. He told me he wasn't going to bother. He has nothing to do but sit on his bed and he wraps in his blanket if he is cold. They don't have laundry in isolation so he would only be able to rinse them out in his cell. How is sitting in a cell with nothing to do but stare at the walls humane? GRRRR

Also found out today that my hubby and I will not be able to be in the courtroom during his trial. Because we have been subpeonad by the state attorney as witnesses we aren't able to be in the courtroom to support our son until after we have both testified. Thought it was bad enough that we were called as witnesses for the prosecution but now I find this out. I can't believe they are doing this to us.
This is maddening! :mad: The treatment of your son is not right O, it's not right. And the trial, not being able to be there? :( We will send in ALL the Saint's and Angel's to surround him with all the love and strength of us all!

My son was taken out of Lieber in the middle of the night last week.I have just heard from him and he is in Lee.They didn't pack his cloths,letters,shoes,etc.
I called down there and they told me his roomate packed it,well where is it.
Now I will probally I have to buy all that stuff all over again.
I am so sick of the prison life as I know you all are.
Tomr. is my 60th BD,he has 18 or so years to go.I worry I won' t be here when he gets out.
Although I did put him down to get the house and land.
I know I rambling,I just neede to vent.I should be starting to enjoy my life,here I am being sad.
Thankyou for listening. Bless You All

My son was taken out of Lieber in the middle of the night last week.I have just heard from him and he is in Lee.They didn't pack his cloths,letters,shoes,etc.
I called down there and they told me his roomate packed it,well where is it.
Now I will probally I have to buy all that stuff all over again.
I am so sick of the prison life as I know you all are.
Tomr. is my 60th BD,he has 18 or so years to go.I worry I won' t be here when he gets out.
Although I did put him down to get the house and land.
I know I rambling,I just neede to vent.I should be starting to enjoy my life,here I am being sad.
Thankyou for listening. Bless You All
Marchio, first, please don't apologize. We are here for you to lean on us, during these times that it is so overwhelming. About the cellie packing his things, that is against the rules. I would tell your son to file a grievance, and on your part, contact the ombudsman, the warden, and file a huge complaint. That's such B**** and they know it. :mad: You are not sure you won't be here either....only 60? Happy Birthday to you BTW! Have faith, the 2 of you just may be sitting right there at your kitchen table together, when you least expect it. ;) Big (((hugs))), you and your son are in my prayers.

O, I know what you say is true, my son also asked me not to call prisons as they tease him and make it harder. they actually went in and told him to stop having his mommy call. the feeling of anger, helplessness, wanting to be fair and humane...seems to be overwhelming at times. they dont need to break my son as he is broken beyond belief.

I too have made sure he had T-shirts and paid a lot for them. county jail is miserable and sad. he was in iso many times for many months and alone in a cell 24/7. I thought he would lose his mind in there or me mine.

but he made it thru. I did write a lot and sent more money while in county.

now that he is in state, it is more relief for him. more to do, things to read, he can go outside. the months waiting for that were horrid for him and I both. I do not understand as I say, they are already in cage, why torture them as well. sigh and sorrow...

Dianne...have a good birthday some how tomorrow. I weep for all our sons in their misery and pain. many times they moved my son in the middle of the night, so sad about that as well. they should be able to be at peace if they can fall asleep. Dianne, May you be there to see your son when they open the door and let him out.

Marchio, ramble all you want to. That's what we are all here for. Reggie gave you good advice.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!

Will be keeping you and your son in my prayers.

Happy Birthday, Marchio!

Dianne... HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR DIANNE,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUUUUUUUUU !!!!

(felt I should sing it here... you are lucky you can't hear me. *I sing solo.. so low no one can hear.* ) I just turned 60 in Dec. and David is turning 38 w/ 25 to life.

have a Blessed Day. you and your son are in my prayers.

and like every one said already... vent or ramble all you want, that is why we are here.

Happy Birthday Marchio!

Praying for a change O, I hope things are calming down for you. Know you and your family are in my prayers and thoughts, every day. (((hugs)))...
God Bless You.

I'm back. Been MIA for a few days. Been a lot going on around here. Some good and some bad. Just trying to pull myself out of the dumpster again. Just so tired of all the chaos.

I did get to see my son on Sat. night. He was in a bit better spirits than when I talked to him last time. Still very depressed. Other than that nothing has changed. They still won't let him have his stuff. No reason, they just won't let him have it. (sigh)

Was in the news again. That's always fun. Nothing new, just for some reason they decided to rehash things.

Was finally able to get a new door to replace the one the police busted down when they served the search warrant. Also got a new driveway gate to replace the one that got broke down somehow a few days after that.

Middle son is totally moved out now. The baby doesn't understand at all.
My mother is doing good as far as healing from her fall anyway. Hubby went for his first test yesterday. Few more to go before we get any answers. MIL (who is in nursing home) had another small stroke. Went to see her on Sun. Just a matter of time.

Guess that's all the updates. Hope everyone is hanging in. I'm always keeping everyone in my prayers. God Bless you all.

thanks for the checkin...makes me know you are one busy woman, always taking care of others!

Been looking for a bible to send him.(If they decide to let him have it). Looking for a study bible but they don't seem to have any in paperback. Called the jail to see if he could have leather bound but nobody knew the answer. I know I can't be the only person who has asked that.GRRRRRR. I have a call in to the chaplain to see if he knows anything.
hey O, we sent a paperback Bible to David.. sent Amplified Bible. go to ChristianBook Club .com you can find a bunch of different things there. just put in Bibles and then paperback


have you found a Bible for your son yet ?

My son was given a bible in county, and has had it with him ever since.

Wendy

have you found a Bible for your son yet ?

Holding off on the bible temporarily. I ordered a couple of books for him and am waiting to see if he gets them.

My son called today. He told me that they again told him he can't have his property and that I need to go pick it up. They told him he can have the books that are in property but when he asks for them they tell him they show he already has some so they won't give them to him. Well, they took everything away from him and it's in his property. So around in circles we go.

I would like to get him a Life Applications Study Bible like the one I got but they only come in hardcover or leather bound. Can't get an answer as to whether they will let him have leather bound. I'm still looking so I'm ready to order when I know he is gonna get it. I would prefer to get him a study bible but may not be able to do that. We'll see.

Had to edit most of what I wanted to say...:angry: Can these people GET any more infuriating?!? C'mon now, this is beyond ridiculous. Reminds me of the scene in the wizard of oz, where their all so frightened by the all mighty powerful oz. Than it's really just a sad lonely old man, with no power at all. That's the jails and docs....:p "Pay no attention to those idiots behind the phones"! :rolleyes: I'm glad your not giving up though, they have to give in eventually. I'm lighting candles and saying many prayers for you and your son, and family. (((hugs)))

:angry: :angry: :angry: GRRRRRRR!!!:angry: :angry:
Went to the jail to pick up my son's stuff and I couldn't get it. The morons lost the paperwork. Guess I shouldn't have expected anything different. Won't let him have the toiletries and socks etc... that he has in property but he can order it from commisary and get it.
:angry: :angry: :angry: GRRRRRRR!!!:angry: :angry:

O have you called / talked to warden about all this ?

D'Gal, that's what so wrong, every time she calls, they give her a big run around. Or lie. It's just not right, this has been going on for far too long. This jail is appalling and those people need to be very ashamed!
O, I will keep your son in constant prayer...God don't like ugly! They will get theirs, believe that. Especially when they deny the word of God to him like that, they're playing with fire and will have to answer one day.

Hey O, just letting you know your in my thoughts and prayers. I am so sorry for all you are having to endure. Keeping a candle lit for you and your son. Take care, (((hugs))) love and Blessings.

Hey all.

Was MIA again. My internet went wacko and I couldn't get on.:eek: Looks like I have a lot of catching up to do.
Kept busy this weekend working out in the yard. Planted some vegies and did a lot of chopping. My poor bushes etc... are in shock. But it felt good to chop, chop, chop.:D Good therapy. Not feeling so good now though. Everything hurts.
Hubby went for the last test he's been scheduled for yesterday. They took a lot of tissue samples for biopsy. Still not telling us anything. He has an appointment in 3 weeks to get the results of all the tests.:(
Was finally told that I can't send a bible to my son. All religious material has to be donated to the chaplain. Then the chaplain can lend stuff to the inmates. It's not likely that he would get what I sent and he wouldn't be able to keep it.:angry:
Also found out that he has been getting his mail but apparently hasn't gotten any from us. It's not being returned to us either. I can only assume that the DA is hijacking it.:angry:
Went to go pick up his stuff last week that they won't let him have and they lost the paperwork. Why am I not surprised. I did find out that they let him have the new books I sent. I guess that's something.:)
Was in the news again over the weekend. Guess I just need to get used to it. Doesn't seem like it's gonna stop.
Was also in the news that FL is gonna cut back on the food they feed inmates. They supposedly have a 3200 calorie diet right now and they are gonna cut back to 2100. My son is already half the size he was when he went in. He's gonna waste away to nothing.:angry:

Hope everyone is doing OK. I have been keeping everyone in my prayers.
God Bless all.

O! Hello, so glad to hear from you! Been getting a work out, eh? I can only imagine what you were thinking with every chop chop chop! :D That jail is so messed up on every level! :mad: Good Lord, not even allowing a Bible to be sent in? Anti Christs! The letters, that is not right. :angry: They should not be keeping those from him, if ya'll are not talking about the case, it's none of their damn business! :blah: At least he did get some books, that's a relief, Lord knows if they didn't let him have those what it would take to get them back. :rolleyes: The news again, when will they ever tire? So many things in this world that should be reported on, and they get stuck on something that hasn't even been to trial yet. How is that fair? :mad: And what about this 2100 calorie diet???? What a way to save a few bucks, by starving the poor inmates, even further than they already do! :angry: And poor hubby, I'm sure he is worried as much as you about the tests. I will keep him in my prayers. How's your Mother? How's the baby doing? We have missed you around here, glad you got the internet back up and running. You and your family are always in my prayers O. (((hugs)))

O, I do not know how you hold you cool so well. gardening is good therapy, I swear I live in the wrong state. Pa is cold gray and dreary. I did make a rather cute snowman with my grandson the other day. I miss my flowers!! I plant them from seed I harvest. Cant plant til end of April...early may or later.

geez, isnt it a federal crime to interfere with mail??? I do not get it!

hope hubby gets only good news!

Just a quick GRRRRR. Went to try to go see my son this afternoon and they changed his visiting hours so I couldn't see him. GRRRRR.:angry:

Didn't want to have to go all the way back home again and then turn back around to pick up hubby so went shopping. :D Got some new jeans, a new purse and finally got some curtains for the baby's room. Oh yeah, baby got some new shoes that light up when she walks(dog ate her other ones that lit up) and she had to have a purse too. Got this cute little purple one. She was very excited.

Hopefully they won't keep changing visiting hours. Can't afford to be doing that all the time. We had fun though.:)

IDIOTS!!!! MAJOR GGGRRR RIGHT WITH YOU..... GGGRRR!!!!!!! :blah:

Glad to hear you found a way to relieve the stress! :p I was so happy reading about the baby and her new light up shoes and purse! How cute is that!?! :D

It is cute and kinda fun. I had all boys so this is all new to me. She insisted she had to have one that she could hang on her shoulder like grammy does.

:) That is soooo cute! I never had a girl either, just my 2 boys. But I have 2 nieces I get a huge kick out of their girlishness! A grand-daughter would be so much fun, in about 10 years, LOL.

O Praying for your hubby,the good lord is watching over him,im glad you vented in your yard,thats what i do.,I have a huge farm,and I plant everything ,stay outside tilldark,cant wait for the time change,AND I hear ya bout the girls,I have 2 grandaughters,the oldest is high school cheerleader,the other is in first year of middle school,they are sooo much fun,love to go out to eat at nice places,grandsons only want mickey ds,or burger king!!!!!!

OH,AND NOOO IM NOT THAT OLD!!!!:( :p MY SON WAS TOOO YOUNG:eek:

Thanks moma. As soon as I get over my soreness and injuries I'll be back out there. The baby loves the outdoors too.
And by the way, my son was too young too. He was only 16 when he became a daddy. Part of why I am now raising a baby. I'm not that old either but too old to be starting over. I think the people who wait till their later years to start a family are nuts. Just one at this age is a major handful. I guess if that's the way you plan it it may be different.

aw widdle girls...I too am mom of three sons, one grandson, one grandson on the way...a boy family for sure, and good thing I was a tomboy!
then again, I never got to buy a purse for anyone...sigh.

Well, went to see my son this morning. They weren't gonna let me see him again today. Seems they change things and don't bother to let the staff know either. Or most likely it's cause the staff doesn't bother to read their memos. Anyway, took the baby with me. She couldn't even get him to smile today. It's so sad. I so wish I could do something to help him. I know they aren't doing anything for him...sigh.

Stupid dog got the baby's new purse. Ran outside with it and drug it around. Talk about a major fit. The baby was screaming at the top of her lungs. There was no harm to it, just dirty. Grammy washed it and all is well again.

Hi O. sorry you are having such a hard time w/ visitation to your son.
there just has to be an end to this madness.

Stupid dog got the baby's new purse. Ran outside with it and drug it around. Talk about a major fit. The baby was screaming at the top of her lungs. There was no harm to it, just dirty. Grammy washed it and all is well again
YEA! Grammy saves the day!!! :clap: I could just picture how it all went down! :D
I'm keeping your son in my prayers O. I know how much it hurts to see them so hopeless and helpless. :( Lord have Mercy on him, please Lord.

You would think there would be an end but it just seems to go on and on. They didn't give him his commisary again either. I'm beginning to think it's just the guards being lazy and/or mean. They either don't turn his order in or they don't want to be bothered with delivering it to him. Either way it's not right but again there isn't a darn thing that can be done about it. Burns me up.

Oh my O, as bad as it sounds, I'll be glad when your boy gets moved, as will he. The jail he is in sounds as though it's so back woods, and I know it isn't.

I admire you ladies with your Grand babies, I'm not that old either but will know in April if we will be adopting my step grandkids. Boy 10, girl 8. This has been in play since before my son got locked up and I was oh so anxious. Now that my days seem consumed with the one son locked up, I don't know if I'm up for it. I will play it by ear, it's not as though I can call and cancel the order just because I'm going through this. I know it will certainly keep me hopping, and that maybe what I need too. Grandma's unite!

Wendy

O,ITS TIME TO RAISE HELL,TELL THEM YOU WILL CALL THE GOV OFFICE,I WILL DO IT SEND ME THE INFO.OK,SORRYpm,me,i will do it.shhhhh!!!

I called the prison after my son said he still had not gotten the television that they took the money out of his account almost six weeks before. Then a guy in his unit got his tv two weeks after ordering it. My son kited to the property people. Finally he saw them delivering property and asked. The guy said you are kiting the wrong people. He thanked them for kiting back to let him know (not). He said he almost lost it. He had heard us calling from the outside make a difference. I told him I had heard that as well.

I called the prison and explained to the operator the situation and she looked him up and said she would transfer me to his counselor who she said would definately take care of it and that I could count on that. I left a lenghty message about it. He had his tv the next property delivery day.

right on momofns. david has requested to see the chaplain since he got there in july 07. still not seen him. I said I would call and put in a word and he said NO. he doesn't want mommy calling for him, it is up to him.
ok son. go for it. :)

Morning D'Gal. I can't believe David hasn't seen the Chaplain yet!! I thought for sure by now he would have. Are we sure at this point, there is one, did he pass away and not get replaced? Dios Mio, maybe if you just call the chaplain himself, it won't be an issue. I know I would.

Wendy

Wendy, when they took my son away I was devistated and totally consumed by his situation. Then God sent me a baby. A baby that needed a grandma as much as I needed "something', that baby is 5 now and the light of my life...and no he's not blood. But he is definately mine, and I am his. Those children need you in their life, and you need them in yours. 8 and 10, they need a gentle but firm "someone" to help them round out all the confusion in their life that I'm sure they have been thru."a newborn chick doesn't know it's alive until its world begins to crumble. What seems like the collapse of your universe may be just an exciting beginning."

Good Morning Wendy. yeah, I am thinking about calling the chaplain myself and not telling David that I did it. mostly right now, is the mom to David's 2 youngest. we are STILL dealing with her not getting paperwork done and sent (that I know of) so we can take them to see daddy. she frustrates me so bad. I can't accuse her of anything because I don't really know what is going on w/ her. I just know those kids need to go see daddy and it isn't getting done.
even if I call / text her and ask, I never get any answer. she is really in her own world I think.

patticake, I know about being consumed w/ our kids situations. was that way a lot at first w/david. but then the Lord gave me PTO and a ministry so, now I can be consumed with others :) hmmmm
and of course I have davids kids .. my grandkids. I am busy w/ them as much as I can be.

D'gal, can you not request the papers sent to you, and you fill them out and send back with her signature when you see her next. I know others have done that. She just sounds lazy, or does she have a problem with the kids going to see him? If so she should tell you that, and not get everyones hopes up. I pray that is not the case, and that she is just lazy, and can't get to it herself. If you have to do the leg work yourself, and just get her signature when you see her, it will be worth it in the long run. At least that way, you have an answer D'gal. Prayers be with you.

Wendy

I am thinking that like on Sunday when we drop the kids off after church, if the forms arent done then we will just stay long enough there to sit her down and stand over her while she fills out and then I will mail them. I know she doesn't have a problem w/ the kids seeing david, just I think lazy and oh I don't know. she frustrates heck out of me. but this has been going on for 4-5 months now. I don't know whether to get angry @ her and say some things or just let it flow natural like. I know she is having a hard time being a single mom and also, I know she still cares for david, but like he told her, she is young and has a life in front of her, and to find someone to share that life. there is probably no hope for the 2 of them anymore. I think she understands that but then feels guilty when she does have a bf . just keep her in your prayers. and us that we know how to deal w/her.

thansk.

Oh patticake, thanks so much for your words. I have needed encouragement on this. I know what you say is true. I have never had a problem with blood or not, I have raised stepchildren, I am close with all. It's one of my step children whose children we are fighting for. Why does everything have to happen at the same time. I'm barely getting over the fact that my son is in the grey hotel, and having to deal with CPS, the children are currently in foster care, and the courts again. From what I understand the boy, 10, is a "very angry young man" that being a quote from his caseworker. He is going to need extensive counseling. We knew all this going in, but I didn't realize I would need some myself after having a son go to prison! You are right patticake, I can do it, I will do it, courts permitting. I have to deal first with the American Consulate and have a home study, they have been notified by the US. If you didn't notice my addy, I live in Mexico. Thanks for the boost patticake!

Wendy

D'gal, was she ever sent a visiting form for herself. She might well be feeling left out of the loop, even if she is getting on with things as far as boyfriends. Old habits die hard, and I'll bet David was an old habit. Has she been offered a visitor's form? I know your main concern is for the little ones, but if their mama has been rebuffed in anyway............need I say more.

Wendy

oh absolutely she has filled out 3... one for her, & each of the kids.

maybe somewhere subconsciencously or unknown to her, she fills them out wrong or forgets to mail them & says she has. ? I don't know. when I called last month when we took older boy, I asked about hers. they had nothing on file, and she (said) she had sent forms in a few weeks prior.
who knows anymore.

plus, david has written her several times. she doesn't write back. I asked her to get Valentine card from the kids for him, she said sure. didn't. etc etc

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Phone: (656) 611-3000


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Fax: (656) 616-9056

If calling from the U.S. dial 011-52 before the number


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Wendy don't know if this will help, I placed your name in My God Box. Now it's his issue! Have you noticed when you run out of places to turn, He's always there?
Applicants in the U.S.: 1-900-476-1212 with a cost of US$1.25 per minute.

D'gal it sounds like it will be sitting down time at her house the next time you go, just like you said. I'm thinking pure raw laziness, but what do you do. Take a cattle prod with you, that will get her up and signing. It sounds as though you are going to have to get the cards yourself and have the babies scrawl their names, and you send them. That's better than not getting one, for David. Bless your heart. All this and a lazy baby mama to boot!

Wendy

Oh thanks patticake! I have the # for the closest one to us, which is San Miguel, but I have heard hide nor hair. I'm going to try the one you supplied to Juarez, and see what they say. You're a doll!

Wendy

my Aunt lives in El Passo and was a proffessor at what ever university that is there, she said to try these folks!!!

Ovietor, call the chaplin and mail the bible you want your son to have, to the chaplin, put your son's name inside the cover so you know for sure he gets it. If he is not getting his mail from you, ask a friend for some return address labels, and use them, sometimes they like to punish the families. They found all my son's missing mail in a box in the closet of the mail room, someone inside (mail lady) took picture of it on her cell and I turned them in the the US Postal Service INV Dept. Even though the mail is delivered t othe facility, it is still US Government mail, and they are liable for it!!! They were taking only my son's legal mail! I finally got a little granddaughter after 4 boys...now everything I buy is pink!!! and loving it!

hey patticake. aren't the little girls the bestest ever ? I love my grandsons, & great grandson, but the little girls are so special.
my only problem,,, have to many and can't hardly afford all the gifts @ bday/christmas time.
mostly buy for the youngest anyhow, but no young grandkids left excpet davids 2. all the rest are teens & up
now, my 2 great grands.! they are something. wish they lived closer. but grt grand son calls & 'talks' to nana. told me the other day he is gonna be "3 fingers" old. how cute is that.

we need a grandma brag page, my granddaughter lives at Steinwenden, Germany. Daughter stationed at Ramstein AFB. I spent the frist 5 weeks of Bella's life with her, and I can't even put it into words. When my daughter calls, she puts the baby up to the phone and when I start talking to her my daughter says she starts looking for me!!! Webcams and e-mail has made it easier, but in june I get to smooch her for a whole week. I go there once a yr and they come home once a yr! My grandson lives here and he is my light, but oh "Bella mon aimee'" need I say more?

hey I like that idea.. a Grandma Brag page. YES

OK, I started ya'll a "brag page" hopefully the mods won't move it out of this forum, since it started here by ya'll............I tried anyway.

O, I'm sure hoping and praying things are getting better at the jail for your son's sake. But those "good ole boys" running it, sure don't have me holding my breath. There I said it, and don't care who knows it either. I'm sick of his mistreatment, it is not right. I better stop while I'm ahead, or I'll just have to edit it all out anyway when I get through. :) Your family is in my prayers, take care Ovie. God Bless.

well took the kids to church w/ us, went and had ice cream after, took them home. when we picked the kids up I asked mom if she had done the papers . she said she mailed them wednesday, so I will give a week or so and call and check. after we took the kids home, I had a few minutes to talk to mom. I really feel for her. I asked if she had any problems w/ david ? she said not really, she just hasn't had the time to write him. she is busy - but she also admitted - rightly so - that there are times she is angry @ him for leaving her stuck trying to raise the 2 kids by herself. she is like a lost little girl sometimes, I think. she is trying. I told her I was concerned about the boy (7yrs), he is very disrespectful of her, he has a lot of problems @ school to the point of suspension. papa talked w/him some, then I told him, your mom is doing the best she can, you need to be helping her, and your dad wants you to do good. you need to make dad proud of you so he doesn't worry. told mom, this boy has got to go see daddy. we promised him just as soon as we hear visitation is ok'd we will take them. It will happen.
wish I could do more for them. I guess the timing and what happens is all in His hands, huh.

thanks for letting me ramble on. love you guys.

O h D'gal, you are doing all you can. It does seems as though the boy needs to see his dad. I'm glad you and hubby got to talk to him today, but his mom needs to get off her duff and pay extra attention to him, and she should have made sure she had those papers sent ages ago. I can understand her being angry with being left to raise them solo, but she has done nothing to make sure her kids will have him a part of their lives, that they seem to be crying out for. I hope she has sent the papers this time, and it's not another run around. Bless your heart D'gal, I know you're doing all you can, while feeling like giving her the fly swatter!

Wendy

Having a really bad day today. The tears won't stop flowing.:cry: That place is breaking my boy. He is giving up. Can't even get him to talk to the chaplain. Tells me it doesn't matter. Sorry but I don't have much use for the chaplain in that place either. He hasn't returned any of my phone calls. Just really struggling with things today. I can't handle this. I'm breaking. Everything is just getting to be too much.

Ovie, I'm soooo sooo sorry. I can understand why you feel like this though. You have had alot on your plate for so long now. You are a strong woman, every single day you hold your family together through it all. I don't have much faith in ANY of the people at that jail, they sound like a bunch of "good ol' boys" with their heads you know where. But the pain of a child, your own child, that is something that rips away our hearts. (((hugs))) It's ok not to be strong all the time O.

O, do you think it would help for your son to get mail from cyber aunties? We've had people post for pen pals for guys who don't get mail and I know your son does, but if he got stuff from others just showing some support do you think it may help some?

O, do you think it would help for your son to get mail from cyber aunties? We've had people post for pen pals for guys who don't get mail and I know your son does, but if he got stuff from others just showing some support do you think it may help some?

It's possible it might help. He does get some mail, but not much. He isn't allowed to write to anyone though. I think the few that were writing are getting tired of not hearing back from him. They don't realize that he isn't allowed to write. sigh.

I will be more than happy to send cards and letters O. And won't expect any response, since we know he can't, but even if he just didn't want to answer, would be understanding. I think it would help him just to know he has support out here.
Thanks for the idea Tigrldy! (slaps forehead).....

If you don't want to post his info publicly pm me with it and I will be glad to send him mail.

O.... yes, I will write him too. pm me the info. or I think I gave you my work & my home emails.

have courage, don't you dare give up now. Keep fighting & keep praying.

James 5:16b says... the effective fervent prayer of a righteous man (or woman) avails much.

we just have to let God work things in His time and way. Have Faith.

prayer goes up for you daily.

Hey O, just checking in on you. As always, you and your family are a constant in my thoughts and prayers. God Bless.
and huge ((((hugs))))

sending gentle caring thoughts. may God soothe your soul. May your son feel the love he is entitled to.

Thanks all. Hangin by a thread, but hangin.

Look who's there! Our O! it sounds as thought you are having a bad time of things. Just know we are always here Love'

Wendy

Hey O, hows the elbow? I'm hanging out in your basement right now, don't bother looking for Jim............he's with me. :)

Hey Ovi,

I miss you. Are you serving up any drinks tonight or should I just go to bed?

Come out come out wherever you are Reggie.

Thanks all. Hangin by a thread, but hangin.

maybe you can bring your thread.. and i can borrow some for my eye lids that are swollen from crying.. i kinda have that garfield look going on.....
i am thinking you are missed around here..

Hi all. Still hanging in. Went to see my son again on Mon. night. He is so depressed it just tears my heart out. He is back in court on the 30th and I am sooooooo scared that he is gonna make some very bad decisions. I got home after visiting and my youngest had some Crown waiting for me. He knows that I am always a major mess when I get home. Haven't decided whether him doing that was good or bad.:confused:

The elbow hurts. Vaccuumed yesterday morning and was in major pain all day. It is getting very frustrating.

Reg, noticed that Jim was missing but I don't know who's basement you ended up in.:eek: This is FL. No basements.;) And since my liquor cabinet was raided I couldn't mix up any drinks. I'm thinking that the thread might hurt on the eyes but I hear Prep H works wonders. Gotta get me some.:D

Hi all. Still hanging in. Went to see my son again on Mon. night. He is so depressed it just tears my heart out. He is back in court on the 30th and I am sooooooo scared that he is gonna make some very bad decisions. I got home after visiting and my youngest had some Crown waiting for me. He knows that I am always a major mess when I get home. Haven't decided whether him doing that was good or bad.:confused:

The elbow hurts. Vaccuumed yesterday morning and was in major pain all day. It is getting very frustrating.

Reg, noticed that Jim was missing but I don't know who's basement you ended up in.:eek: This is FL. No basements.;) And since my liquor cabinet was raided I couldn't mix up any drinks. I'm thinking that the thread might hurt on the eyes but I hear Prep H works wonders. Gotta get me some.:D
Hey O, rest that elbow! I know I should talk, I put my back out every few months BC I don't rest and let it heal properly. But that's why I say it, from experience, rest it as much as possible. I'm sorry to hear about your son being depressed. He has so much to deal with and the jail only adds salt to the wounds with the way they treat him. Ya know, I remember last time you (we) were worried he might not make good decisions and he surprised us and did what was best. I am keeping faith that when it comes down to it, he will once again, do what is best for him. And of course, praying he is guided to do so. The crown, well he was just trying to help, and that is a good thing in itself. Heck, I wish we could just pick up some Valium at the drug store like we do Tylenol, but crown will do nicely. Hey so where was I? Was that even a basement? :eek:

hi O dear. (hehe I think I just made a funny w/0 meaning to - get it Odear) nevermind.

Hi dear. will be praying for you and your son for court.

hi O dear. (hehe I think I just made a funny w/0 meaning to - get it Odear) nevermind.

Hi dear. will be praying for you and your son for court.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Good Morning Ladies,

This is what I know.... there is power in Mama's prayers. Look what happen this past weekend with Bradley. Look what happen with Susan's W. son Jon.

So... Ovi we will all gather around on the 30th and pray pray pray.

I am so glad you saw your son. I am sorry he is depressed. I will continue to pray for him.

I know what you mean about the visits. I haven't seen my son since Dec. I will go Saturday, I am headed to NY tomorrow. I will pull into prison , walk to the vistor's center and start crying... can't help it. Then I will walk over to prison, get search, pull myself together. Walk in and wait until he walks in that door. THEN MY WORLD IS OKAY, MY SUNSHINE MY SON, MY LIFE ....WALKS IN.

Then... I leave.... not knowing when I will see him again. I will walk out get in my car and drive down the road to the St. Lawerence River. I will sit there and look over and see Canada. I will then cry and not stop until I get back to Va.

I wish pot was legal!!!! Forget the captain, Jack or crown. I would give anything to have a doobie(do that still say that?)

I have and am a whatabe hippee chick.

I wish pot was legal!!!! Forget the captain, Jack or crown. I would give anything to have a doobie(do that still say that?)


:D you'de have to be quick Jill, cause I'ma pushing people outta the way to get in line! :p

No way man I am a bogart(do they still say that) I will piss all over your feet to be first!

:p

I hear it's a wonderful painkiller too.:D

And good sleep, er, so I've heard.

Come on down to Mexico ladies!

Ya heard right Reg!

I think when we retire it will have to be in Mexico! :)

I heard er... the munchies are bad you can get lets say a little out of control:D

No man no mexican stuff for this old wantabee hippee girl. The kids tell me that the stuff now a days is better than in my day.

better than that sense I heard about??? LOL

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:pass it on :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:going to mexico:eek::eek::eek:

well girls i never:hee:

Did someone say the medicine that most teachers use:hee: (you didn't hear it from me), who said doobie?, someone is telling their age.

I love the doobie brothers, LOL........does that count? heehee

I love the doobie brothers, LOL........does that count? heehee

And whats that stuff, Joint compound? That sticky stuff. ya.

:) :) :)

Ya know earlier Jill was over at the dad's thread, I think she has another stash somewhere...........she disappeared from the boat! I'm here to raid O's liquor again....

I am still stuck on those doobie boys... Man does music sound so good with them doobie boys.

I be a rockin all night long.

I am still stuck on those doobie boys... Man does music sound so good with them doobie boys.

I be a rockin all night long. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFXkvhEhIVQ

Great One. Thanks Now I Really Want Some Sense.

:hee::hee::hee: pass pass...................

i didn;t inhale i swear

omg....now We're Talking Reggie....

damn Bogart.

mz Margaret Said,"whats So Funny" And Its Too Early To Go Upstairs. I Can't Do Anything Anyways... You Know Remember She Says What Happen Today To My "whowho"

i Cant Take Much More Of You Flossies

omg....now We're Talking Reggie....

damn Bogart.

mz Margaret Said,"whats So Funny" And Its Too Early To Go Upstairs. I Can't Do Anything Anyways... You Know Remember She Says What Happen Today To My "whowho"

i Cant Take Much More Of You Flossies
:eek: :D :haha: :blush: :p :faint:

oh my dear, i was just scrolling down the treads.. saw something that caught my eye
then realized i was in the gay and lesbian ...i love my gay guy friends.. ( i'm a hairdresser remember...)

Deb I so need to drive to your Island for a decent haircut! I used to have this guy in Austin do it, magic...........got here, ugh..........I could chop my own hair and get the same results. Got any connections in GA? Hey we're heading that way on vacation soon, I'll come to you!

well dear i go north the 2 nd n 3 rd weekend. i am right below the boarder of ga.. al.. i have been looking to relocate up yonder soon...

ok, all us East Coasters are gonna have to do a G2G for sure! We'll let Jill and Mz M plan it, and MotherJ can make sure it's legal, cause we gotta be careful with those other 2, LOL...........

O.........where oh where is my O????????????????????????????? :(

O be right here. Was busy being upset last night. Not a happy camper and would like to punch a few cops right now. GRRRRR!

:hmm: I can understand the desire but gotta advise against it. :shake: Really though, I'm sorry to hear you had a bad night. Anything I can do? BTW I replaced Jim for ya, now I feel bad that I took off with him. Your in my prayers O, let me know if I can do anything, I will surely try. :grouphug:

O been thinking about you, been meaning to communicate w/you, but just slothful . please forgive me. but even then, you are in my daily prayers.

reggie42

I got an email to reach out to you. I'm new to this. I am from the Bronx, and my son is at Federal Co at Fort Dix. Right now I'm worry cause he disobeyed a direct order and is SHU for 36 days. No calls or visits till July. Is so hard I miss him very much. He is my life. All I do is send him money so he does not go with out.

Glad to have new friends. Write back tell me about yourself. If you can.

reggie42

I got an email to reach out to you. I'm new to this. I am from the Bronx, and my son is at Federal Co at Fort Dix. Right now I'm worry cause he disobeyed a direct order and is SHU for 36 days. No calls or visits till July. Is so hard I miss him very much. He is my life. All I do is send him money so he does not go with out.

Glad to have new friends. Write back tell me about yourself. If you can.
Hi Jeanette, I also am glad you found us, we need all the support we can get. I'm sorry to hear your son is in the SHU. :( Take comfort though at least he is away from the drama and really very safe in lock down. Mine has been in lock down for months now. He says he prefers it for the reasons I just stated, he is away from the drama. Have you been over to the federal forums yet? If not, here are some links to them, so you can find out information about the camp:

http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300282

http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=974

I also live in another state from my son, oh it is hard I know. Like you I send some money, and books through Barns & Noble, write constantly. I know you miss him Jeanette, it hurts so bad. All we can do is accept it now, and put our boys in God's hands. He will take good care of them for us. (((hugs))) Keep coming here for support, in time, it will get a little less emotional for you. I can't say it ever gets easy, just some days are easier than others. I had a bad few weeks myself, yes, I take it to the extreme and have weeks not days. :rolleyes: But eventually I pick myself back up, dust myself off, and try again. You will too. You are not alone Jeanette, we are all here for you. I will keep you and your son in my prayers. God Bless.

Welcome JeanetteGarcia! Great to see Reggie lead you over here for support and love from all of us. Reggie your so wonderful.

Hello O! I didn't see you here till just now. Hugs and more Hugs. We all love you and your son so much. I'm glad you stopped by for a bit.

Love and Blessings everybody

Hi Jeanette Garcia
I'm Vanessa, And Welcome To Pto.
I Live In Georgia, But I'm Orignally From Neuva York, The Lower East Sied Of Mahattan.
I Have Cousins In The Booggie Bronx, And A Sister In Queens.
My Son Is In Ga He Has 11 Months To Go Befor His Release.
This Is One Big Familyu, And You Are Never Alone.
Keep In Touch
Vanessa(vangee)

Thank you for your replys. Vanessa, I am from the lower eastside born and raised on Delancy Street. Still have a brother and sister down there. Thank you for listening and Reggie42 you guys are the best. Talk to you guys later cause I'm at work

Bye Now.

Jeanette

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