View Full Version : Wal-Mart does not hire felons unless the conviction is seven years or older!


methamp
12-07-2007, 02:42 PM
So...

Come to find out that Wal-Mart doesn't hire anyone with a felony regardless of the crime! I think this is a new policy because I know of some recently convicted felons who work at Walmart doing all sorts of things, but this was years ago. I was denied employement because of my non-violent felony conviction being newer than 7 years old. The woman in personnel even told me flat out "Walmart doesn't hire felons but we only go back seven years."

So much for the world's largest retailer...

reggie42
12-07-2007, 02:49 PM
believe me, I worked for them for over 4 years, and trust me, they did you a favor! lol something way better will come your way, I will keep you in my prayers.

methamp
12-07-2007, 02:56 PM
believe me, I worked for them for over 4 years, and trust me, they did you a favor! lol something way better will come your way, I will keep you in my prayers.

My wife worked there for about a year or so so I figured I'd give it a shot. This is the first time in my life I've had to look for a "real job." Since I was 13 I've run my own businesses and after a while it couldn't recover. 10 years later I'm 23, have a felony on my record from a few years ago, and now have to get into the work force.

Yikes.

reggie42
12-07-2007, 03:06 PM
don't stress on it. lot's of places don't care about the felony thing. have you tried looking into a temp agency? once you get in the door, alot of employers will keep you on perm. just a thought...

methamp
12-07-2007, 04:59 PM
don't stress on it. lot's of places don't care about the felony thing. have you tried looking into a temp agency? once you get in the door, alot of employers will keep you on perm. just a thought...

I live in a small Navy town. It's hard to find places to work without going outside this area and with the cost of gas these days, it'd pay to take a lower-paying job than try to find a decent one out-of-town. There is really only one temp. agency around here and I've had no success getting hired.

Money$hot$
12-08-2007, 05:16 PM
Walmart will hire a felon if there conviction was over 7 years ago. That's a cold hard fact.

monstermaker
12-09-2007, 01:18 PM
Hi,

I was released from Chowchilla (female prison, CA) in March 2005, with 5 felony forgery convictions. Within 2 weeks I was working as a counter person running the register at a lawn mower shop. This was due to knowing someone that knew the owner. Within 13 months I was off parole, and working for a government agency as a receptionist. People allways assume that the government wont hire a felon. People should try their local government agency's (city and county) Im not sure about the state or federal level. There are certain departments that you cant work for as a felon, like the Sheriffs department or the District Attorney's but there are alot that you can, that dont care, it just depends on the position.

mrsadams
12-09-2007, 08:38 PM
You will find a job, just be patient and be positive. Good Luck

mathkilla
12-12-2007, 11:59 PM
Hold on, I would like to set the record straight about Wal-Mart and felons. Wal-Mart does hire felons, but they don't hire any type of felon, they have a selective process. I was convicted of a felony in 06, and in 07 i got a job at a wal-mart store. I was like the many people who thought that wal-mart doesn't hire felons, but I was wrong. It depends on how you present yourself. Before I got hired, I would go certain wal-mart stores that had the now hiring sign or now hiring ads in the paper, and I was interviewed and told that my felony disqualifies me from a job. This didn't stop me from applying. I got tired of wasting my time going store to store (wal-mart stores that is), so I filled out an online application and listed the stores that I was interested in. I went and got a temp job sometime in 06 (after my conviction) and two months later I had two different wal-mart stores calling me in for interviews. I went to one, and got the job. The great part, they didn't ask me anything about my record, but they did ask me to fill out a release form that gave them permission to run a background check. When u fill the form out, you must listed every conviction you ever had. Don't be scared, just do it, because the chances of you getting the job is high (since they called u in), so don't lie about anything, just be upfront and tada, a job at wally's world.

mathkilla
12-13-2007, 12:01 AM
no bs, so the myth has been busted.

Chadschicken2
12-13-2007, 01:53 AM
Wal-Mart treats their workers like crap in Tennessee...no insurance, low pay, endless bitching and back biting........:blah: Night Audit Clerk at a hotel pays more and most will hire a felon...

Money$hot$
12-15-2007, 07:10 AM
Ex-felons really have not much of a choice of employment options. Today ever company seems to be doing background checks.

SexyChef1
12-15-2007, 09:32 AM
I was denied employment at the Casino for the same reason...so where do they want us to work?

deegreen
12-16-2007, 05:19 PM
my hubby works at pizza hut as a driver. his felony conviction was 1991. hes been out 6 yrs and still finds it hard to find jobs

dontime
12-16-2007, 06:55 PM
My son cant get a regular job so when he was out he got a day laborer job and they vop'd him because two other workers were on parole there also. HE didn't know them and now he's serving 6 more months for vop. So tell me how is he suppose to work if he can find work when someone unknown person there may be on parole also?

6785436
01-04-2008, 05:26 PM
I was able to fill out the FAFSA before I got out of prison and got financial aid to go back to college. I just graduated with my AA (after being out for less than a year) and I am on my way to get my BS this semester. I am now getting about 10,000 a semester between student loans and financial aid grants.

MOMSAYSSO
01-05-2008, 04:09 PM
I HAVE HAD BOTH OF SONS TRY TO FIND JOBS AFTER PRISON BUT ONLY COULD GET LABOR JOBS THEIR BODIES CAN NOT DO. SO THIS TIME I AM STARTING A BUSINESS NO ONE CAN TELL THEM NO. ITS EBAY. THEY EACH WILL GET TO LEARN THE COMPUTER AND AFTER FINDING THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SALE THEY CAN JUST TAKE IT OVER UNTIL THEY CAN GET A JOB W/ BENEFIT'S. TO MANY PEOPLE FILL THEY WERE NOT WORTH THE CHANCE BUT THEY WILL PROVE ALL OF THEM WRONG. DID YOU NOW MCDONALD'S WILL NOT HIRE YOU EVEN IF YOU ARE A WW2 VET IF YOU HAVE A TATTOO. LABELS ARE EVERY WHERE!!!

offpaper
01-06-2008, 06:10 AM
Part of your life sentence:

If anything goes missing, money, paper clips, paper towels, you will be the first to be suspected. This goes on forever. Get used to it if you can. I can't.

This isn't to be a downer, but if you know ahead of time, them some of you might be able to deal with it better than I have for the last nine years since being on the outside.

Isweoriswenot
01-06-2008, 07:58 AM
My fiance doesn't get out until 2013 and I am already searching the web and trying to find info on jobs for people who are "ex-offenders". True it's a while to be trying to worry about it, but the way the system is set up it's like almost everyone does a background check. How in the world is a person who has gone to jail/prison ever suppose to survive out here on their own financially?
I saw a entry on another website where a woman had 3 kids to raise on her own with no help and had went to jail over 20+ times b/c she couldn't pay her restitution fees which were over $200 a month. She said she had been turned away at some of the fast food restaraunts, and was comtemplating suicide b/c she didn't know what to do and how to get out of her situation, it brought tears to my eyes.

It makes you wonder what does the government think is going to happen to people who are trying to get back on their feet when they have made a mistake in life. My answer the government doesn't care! They call it the Department of Corrections, but who are they correcting? True you can go back to school and get a degree for a certain position, but how many of those jobs will just hire you without doing a background check if they want you to go through the means of getting a degree anyway?

It's like a catch 22! And no matter what you do it's stuck on you like glue!
Unless you start your own business, know someone higher up who can get you in the door or work in the trades/skill area it could be a challenge.

They want people not to go back to that lifestyle well give em assistance and stop selling them myths!

They will give you money for financial aid with school, but what about financial aid for home?

IthinkNOT!
01-06-2008, 11:37 AM
Walmart does hire felons! The assistant manager at my local wal-mart served time for murdering her husband. She didn't do much time, about 5 or 6 years. 3 days after she came home from prison she had a cashier job at the wal-mart, and she worked herself up from there.

Pnellwife3
01-09-2008, 05:04 PM
FAFSA if you committed a felony do to drugs you aren't eligible for fiancial aid. And in Pittsburgh they even do background checks at Temporary Agencies. Felons should try to get into an apprenticeship in electricans, boilermakers etc. especially if they have restitution and child support to pay. And, if they are eligible for public assistance they can only stay on for 6 months. And they don't give them medical benefits.

methamp
01-10-2008, 01:54 PM
It appears Walmart only goes back 5 years for record searches. You could be convicted of murder and drug trafficking and if it was over 5 years ago they don't hold it against you. This is what the assistance manager of our local Walmart told me. Too bad that by the time I'm eligible to be hired at Walmart I'll already have another job.

Voice of Reason
01-15-2008, 12:23 PM
Do feel it was better for you on the inside? The outside world is not a friendly place at all. At least in prison they take care of your basic necessities. On the outside, no job, no money = homlessness.

Part of your life sentence:

If anything goes missing, money, paper clips, paper towels, you will be the first to be suspected. This goes on forever. Get used to it if you can. I can't.

This isn't to be a downer, but if you know ahead of time, them some of you might be able to deal with it better than I have for the last nine years since being on the outside.

OffenderNoMore
01-15-2008, 02:51 PM
That's pretty common. For 10 years before I was incarcerated I was a service manager at two different dealerships. Even though my crime was over 13 years old when I went down, I can no longer be employed doing what at one time was perfectly suited for me. I can't even begin to count how many business have wanted to hire me until they realized that I was fresh out of prison. I'd still be out of work If had not started my own business, by time another six years passes, I'll be so firmly established in what I am doing now, that there's no way I'll go looking again.

flatline5150
01-16-2008, 08:52 AM
Yep, I've done the Wal-mart bit. I know you need ca$h but you don't want to work there. Wal-mart is very bad for the personality. They will treat you like crap. They brain-wash you into being less than a man. You will do it as long as that "bullshit" check keeps rollin' it. Save yourself the bullshit. If your just an uneduacted loser with no ambition in life then that place is good for you!!
Rub that shit off..You saved yourself. F U C K W A L M A R T!!:cool:

Butch Cassidy
01-16-2008, 11:05 AM
In Pennsylvania, if one has a conviction,he/she can only be denied employment if their conduct is JOB-RELATED.For example, someone with a DUI can be denied employment as a school bus driver.One would have to look at their own state's laws to see how applicable it is towards working at Wal-Mart.:D

OffenderNoMore
01-16-2008, 12:37 PM
In Texas, there are over 118 state licenses you lose or do not qualify once you become an ex offender so that pretty much limits where you work and how much you can make. It does not matter the nature of the crime or how long it's been since it was committed. Once your labeled, that's it...you're done.

scoopster
01-25-2009, 05:57 PM
One case was in the carolina's, this made national news. My felony was in 1995 and I'm still having hard time.

plus, people need to realize that all it takes is a disgruntled employee who gets fired with no record to make crazy and wild threats, and then the company will change their policy due to a incident with someone who has no felony at all.

scoopster
01-25-2009, 06:02 PM
my sister works at walmart, and the lady who does the hiring said to me in the last year she has never seen so many people with college degree's now working in retail. She said it is sad, all these people went to college to better their careers, make more, and now at walmart.
So just remeber people are graduating from college every year in every city, which make our competition harder and harder.

classicrascal
01-26-2009, 12:24 PM
my sister works at walmart, and the lady who does the hiring said to me in the last year she has never seen so many people with college degree's now working in retail. She said it is sad, all these people went to college to better their careers, make more, and now at walmart.
So just remeber people are graduating from college every year in every city, which make our competition harder and harder.

They had a pretty good feature on 60 minutes two weeks ago about people that get out of college and can't find squat in many instances. For the most part, college does not teach you how to create wealth. I know some would say I just need some money to pay the bills right now. It is a journey and you have to network and think outside the box.

mirandafromga08
01-26-2009, 08:21 PM
Walmart will hire a felon if there conviction was over 7 years ago. That's a cold hard fact.

mine is 10 years old said they still couldnt hire me

BlueEyedEllie
01-26-2009, 08:28 PM
So...

Come to find out that Wal-Mart doesn't hire anyone with a felony regardless of the crime! I think this is a new policy because I know of some recently convicted felons who work at Walmart doing all sorts of things, but this was years ago. I was denied employement because of my non-violent felony conviction being newer than 7 years old. The woman in personnel even told me flat out "Walmart doesn't hire felons but we only go back seven years."

So much for the world's largest retailer...
wow, that's news to me!!! some nights when i stop there on my way home from work (i work second shift) i see some well let's say interesting people stocking the shelves. they certainly don't look like they've been singing in the church choir all their lives!!

Albee Damned
02-03-2009, 01:04 PM
They must comply with both federal and state law. The state laws differ, so do their hiring practices in different states.

For instance, in California they wouldn't be able to even consider ANY conviction more than 7 years old (unless you were applying to be a pharmacist or optometrist there). Hence, you could be hired there 7 years past your conviction or release from probation/parole. In Texas there is no limitation, so they don't have to consider you unless the felony was not job-related.

pamkay414
02-04-2009, 05:37 AM
My ex has numerous felonies and worked there. But who knows if he divulged that but maybe they can find out on their own?

Albee Damned
02-04-2009, 12:33 PM
My ex has numerous felonies and worked there. But who knows if he divulged that but maybe they can find out on their own?

Wal-Mart will find your felonies. And they will look, too.

KSAME44
02-19-2009, 06:25 PM
Well I have to say the Header on this thread is incorrect. I was hired today by Walmart and I have a felony that is less than 7 years old. I start orientation on Monday. With the economy the way it is this was a blessing.

5corpio
04-17-2009, 11:32 PM
So...

Come to find out that Wal-Mart doesn't hire anyone with a felony regardless of the crime! I think this is a new policy because I know of some recently convicted felons who work at Walmart doing all sorts of things, but this was years ago. I was denied employement because of my non-violent felony conviction being newer than 7 years old. The woman in personnel even told me flat out "Walmart doesn't hire felons but we only go back seven years."

So much for the world's largest retailer...

I know wal-mart had interviewed me for a position last year when I first got out, after they knew I was already a registered sex offender.

5corpio
04-17-2009, 11:34 PM
Getting into business is fairly easy if you choose the correct business. My husband and I are in the tax business. He is on parole and has been issued a efin number from the IRS to process taxes. I was a difficult task and we were denied at first, but his perisistance paid off. We are now in business for ourself and doing very well. We are also owners of our own home based travel business. What we have learn is that being a felon doesnt stop you if you have a plan for your own success.
We will be willing to share our blueprint with those interested.

How do you get denied a federal tax id? I got 1 for my sole proprietorship and 1 for my s-corp. Only problem I had was getting the license due to my criminal history. In the end, it all worked out smoothly...

angelpoof
05-12-2009, 08:29 PM
I was the hiring manager at walmart for a few years.. and i was told my the main boss do not hire anyone with any felony.. they wont even pull the applications at that walmart if it shows felony... when their background checks come back it will give a red flag or green flag.. well we all know what red flag is... they dont care what the crime was or how old it is.. when it pops up in the system.. you might we all just leave the interview.. at least thats the case at the 2 i worked at

Railroads53
01-23-2010, 03:09 PM
my hubby works at pizza hut as a driver. his felony conviction was 1991. hes been out 6 yrs and still finds it hard to find jobs

If your husband has not found employment aside from Pizza Hut it would be wise for him to hang on to that job until he does.

I was convicted 35 years ago - in 1975! Got out in 1982, developed, operated and sold 3 successful businesses and now I am 56 years old, living in Florida, applied - on line - for a delivery job for Pizza Hut and although the local manager says she'd love for me to work for them, the DISTRICT manager out of Orlando says no. He says that their policy now is not to hire anyone if they HAVE EVER been convicted.

Funny thing - I have a letter of clemency from the governor's office, I am a Notary Public - personally appointed by the governor himself (I had to explain why I thought he should appoint me) have closed probably over 2,000 mortgages over the last 4 years and have handled hundreds of thousands of dollars in certified checks and now that the mortgage industry has virtually come to a halt in Florida I need a part time job - but yet PIZZA HUT says NO - I'll not get my hands on their dough:):angry:. Oh well, something else will come along - I hope

amber954
06-17-2010, 08:48 AM
Ive read some of you post's and i have heard that Walmart does hire felons
and that they get $$ back at the end of the year for doing so.
So i was thinking of applying there now do you think i should check yes for being convicted? Would it make them hire me more or should i not think like that? please i need an opinion!

GmAn82
07-25-2011, 11:47 AM
So...

Come to find out that Wal-Mart doesn't hire anyone with a felony regardless of the crime! I think this is a new policy because I know of some recently convicted felons who work at Walmart doing all sorts of things, but this was years ago. I was denied employement because of my non-violent felony conviction being newer than 7 years old. The woman in personnel even told me flat out "Walmart doesn't hire felons but we only go back seven years."

So much for the world's largest retailer...

I understand completely, I recently went through the whole hiring process for an overnight position. I had two interviews, drug screening, and i fully disclosed my background on my application before the interviews and drug screening. This policy for not hiring ex-felons is bull. Why should it take 7 yrs for a company to hire them?? People make mistakes - we have families to support (financially).. That 7 year plan is design for failure... The government need to allocate company hiring policies or have better programs for individuals who have a non-violent background with only one offense.

kelzilla
08-29-2011, 08:18 PM
I'm not sure what is going on with Walmart, I know people that work at our local store that have felony convictions, yet I applied, said on the app that I had a felony, and got called in for an interview only to be turned down as a result of a background check.

My big problem is that I worked for over a decade in corporate america in management, and now when I am applying for retail/menial jobs I am getting laughed at. I had an interview with Vanity Fair last week and was told I was overqualified, but they really wanted to hire me anyway... but of course, they do background checks too, so no luck again.

Thank God I am going to college again, or I'd be in violation of parole. Been home since April, and have had NO luck whatsoever on the job front. Its just making me feel so defeated, and I wish I could kick that feeling!

angelsdesire
08-30-2011, 10:56 PM
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i've read most of the posts made towards wam-mart..and i have got to say that if y'all dont like the store, or company... then u dont have to go into it shopping... whether or not they hire felons i'm not sure... ive been working at wa-mart going on 15, YES 15 YEARS:D, and it aggravate me to hear bad mouthing the company. YES, it is like ANY OTHER company.. it has its down side.. and i would be lying if i'd say i've want to call it quits, however, it is a good joob and there is job security.. everyong shops there... i currently work at a warehouse as oppose to the store.. but i have been in the store too... what makes the company is the people managing the building.. some bad, some good... every company has rules for hiring felons... i will be going thru this in a few year and i imangine it will be frustrating. but bad mouthing a company because they have rules is crazy!!!:eek:
:confused::blah:

shagginabit1980
08-31-2011, 10:24 PM
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i've read most of the posts made towards wam-mart..and i have got to say that if y'all dont like the store, or company... then u dont have to go into it shopping... whether or not they hire felons i'm not sure... ive been working at wa-mart going on 15, YES 15 YEARS:D, and it aggravate me to hear bad mouthing the company. YES, it is like ANY OTHER company.. it has its down side.. and i would be lying if i'd say i've want to call it quits, however, it is a good joob and there is job security.. everyong shops there... i currently work at a warehouse as oppose to the store.. but i have been in the store too... what makes the company is the people managing the building.. some bad, some good... every company has rules for hiring felons... i will be going thru this in a few year and i imangine it will be frustrating. but bad mouthing a company because they have rules is crazy!!!:eek:
:confused::blah:So basically, we're not allowed to voice our opinion on a public forum? Most people aren't "bad mouthing" Walmart. Instead people are voicing their frustrations about a company who doesn't have a universal policy on the hiring of people with criminal convictions. Unless you have actually been through the process of applying for a job and being denied because of something you done years ago, you really don't know how frustrating it is. Finally, to use your line of thinking, "If you don't like how people are voicing their opinions on Walmart, you don't have to continue to read nor reply to this thread".

lack10
09-01-2011, 02:57 AM
I would be homeless if I worked at walmart

angelsdesire
09-03-2011, 06:23 PM
sure, u can have an opinion about anything, however so do i. all im saying is wal-mart has a policy similar to alot of big companies. so why is it wal-marts at fault for not hiring people with felonies? where u are correct that i've not had to worry about finding a job because of a conviction, i can only imangie how hard and frustration it can be. i'm not saying their policy is right.

shagginabit1980
09-05-2011, 12:03 PM
sure, u can have an opinion about anything, however so do i. all im saying is wal-mart has a policy similar to alot of big companies. so why is it wal-marts at fault for not hiring people with felonies? where u are correct that i've not had to worry about finding a job because of a conviction, i can only imangie how hard and frustration it can be. i'm not saying their policy is right.

Again, you're missing the point. The problem is that my Walmart in my city may hire someone with a felony conviction 7 years or older, yet the Walmart 10 miles down may not. Companies should have the right to have policies regarding the hiring of people with criminal backgrounds; however, they shouldn't have the right to not have a universal policy for all their locations.

lmslin192
03-10-2012, 07:31 AM
So...

Come to find out that Wal-Mart doesn't hire anyone with a felony regardless of the crime! I think this is a new policy because I know of some recently convicted felons who work at Walmart doing all sorts of things, but this was years ago. I was denied employement because of my non-violent felony conviction being newer than 7 years old. The woman in personnel even told me flat out "Walmart doesn't hire felons but we only go back seven years."

So much for the world's largest retailer...

I have an interview with Walmart now only to find they do not hire people with felons. How sad.

freehand
06-13-2012, 09:29 PM
that is not true. some walmart's over look that. there are people who got hired and had a felon regardless.

So...

Come to find out that Wal-Mart doesn't hire anyone with a felony regardless of the crime! I think this is a new policy because I know of some recently convicted felons who work at Walmart doing all sorts of things, but this was years ago. I was denied employement because of my non-violent felony conviction being newer than 7 years old. The woman in personnel even told me flat out "Walmart doesn't hire felons but we only go back seven years."

So much for the world's largest retailer...

Timsgirl2011
06-18-2012, 03:25 PM
don't stress on it. lot's of places don't care about the felony thing. have you tried looking into a temp agency? once you get in the door, alot of employers will keep you on perm. just a thought...


I have a misdemenor (hindering prosecution i.e. harboring a fugitive. Adecco in ky told me 5 years just for misdemenor so not sure about felony. Mine is considered a dishonesty charge, so every charge is different though, but I wasted my gas and time to drive 1.5 hours away for an interview to be told o i Have to contact head quarters, can you come back tomorrow, o wait I see you live *********, if you want to wait..... 1 hour later I hear Im sorry to inform you but we cant hire you for 5years, and more than likely neither will any other temp agency. Sorry for wasting your time Mrs.******

decyferite
07-18-2012, 04:21 PM
I dont know about Walmart, but I myself, run a small business on the side, and I do have to screen for convictions because of the nature of the business. As an ex offender, I dont discriminate based upon being an ex offender, I have to be choosy on what the conviction was for. Burglary and sex offenses, I cannot hire, due to the fact that I am dealing with clients homes as well as businesses. My conviction was for Robbery, and I will hire based upon the circumstances surrounding such charges. If someone were convicted of robbery, but only gave information, such as my case, I will hire them as long as they dont have a long history for the same thing. Or if someone seems genuinely like a changed person I will give them a shot. First thing I tell people is to be upfront about their convictions. If they lie and I find out, automatic termination.

mikeq
07-22-2012, 07:02 AM
so its safe to say that if your felony is theft related, forget it, even if they are over 18 years ago?

brotherbrent
08-13-2012, 02:32 PM
So...

Come to find out that Wal-Mart doesn't hire anyone with a felony regardless of the crime! I think this is a new policy because I know of some recently convicted felons who work at Walmart doing all sorts of things, but this was years ago. I was denied employement because of my non-violent felony conviction being newer than 7 years old. The woman in personnel even told me flat out "Walmart doesn't hire felons but we only go back seven years."

So much for the world's largest retailer...

well i just applied at walmart and they don't even bother to call felons back to tell them they cant have the job after the background check revealed what i had told them in the first place. Im on probation in lieu of a 3 to 50 at NSP and have a perfect record with the probation office and my last felony was a possession charge in 2001. I am working everyday at LaborMax temp service. temp agencies are the only place other than farm work that ive found will hire felons. even the framing jobs in lincoln all state you must have a valid drivers license to drive nails.

Soudy
09-21-2012, 09:28 AM
well i think it depends on your area and your specific record, if its theft related some places wont hire because you cannot get a lisence but some places to allow it because i think they get tax cuts, not sure tho

gj07
09-24-2012, 03:08 PM
FAFSA if you committed a felony do to drugs you aren't eligible for fiancial aid. And in Pittsburgh they even do background checks at Temporary Agencies. Felons should try to get into an apprenticeship in electricans, boilermakers etc. especially if they have restitution and child support to pay. And, if they are eligible for public assistance they can only stay on for 6 months. And they don't give them medical benefits.

From what I have read I believe you are correct on the FAFSA if you are convicted of a crime and had been drawing aid. However, from what I have read I believe if you were N O T drawing aid at the time of the conviction, then you are eligible. I have read the rules on it also after hearing this and from my understanding this does appear to be correct, so would be the worth the while to check into it if this applies to you or your loved one.