whichru
10-22-2003, 01:42 AM
hello...question..why cant i have one beer? i have a problem with herion not beer. do i have to give up everything? even if i dont abuse it
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View Full Version : why cant i have a beer whichru 10-22-2003, 01:42 AM hello...question..why cant i have one beer? i have a problem with herion not beer. do i have to give up everything? even if i dont abuse it toi_ama 10-22-2003, 02:07 AM Well, you'll switch addictions and you can also find yourself relapsing back into your heroin addiction. We addicted people just can't handle mind-altering substances. Heroin is a "downer" and so is alcohol, and seeking that release can just get you off and running on alcohol or if you don't stay with alcohol, can get you right back to heroin in the long run. My husband tried going to alcohol but got hooked on that right away and he said he'd rather kick heroin any day than go through alcohol withdrawal. He did stay away from alcohol for almost 15 years, but went back to opiates and ultimately died of a heroin overdose three years ago. See, when we use a substance, it changes our thinking due to the action of the drug on our brain and we also activate our addiction again. The change in thinking throws us right into denial and the illusion that we can control our use. And the awakening of our addiction will then keep us always seeking more of the substance------or some other one. We become physically and mentally unable to control the need for the drug and we just head downhill on the toboggan to hell again. samiam158 10-22-2003, 05:46 AM tio...don't you think also that one beer leads to another and then the chances of doing heroin(in this case) is heighten....because your inhabitions and thought processes are all messed up and you may be drunk and say....hummmm a little heroin would be nice... do you get where i'm coming from.... miz_pandora 10-22-2003, 07:03 AM because a drug is a drug is adrug. i too could not understand the logistics behind it until i tried to work my own program and just try a beer (meth was my drug of choice) and three months later alone and homeless i returned to the tables of NA and AA with a new habit. turns out anything i touch i take to far. just rember your great and dont need anything in you to be great!!good luck tropical1 10-22-2003, 07:29 AM MY GUY ADMITTED T0 ME THAT IN 97 HE SMOKED HEROIN AND THOUGHT DAMN THIS GUY CAN DRINK AND SMOKE POT, I DO NOT THINK HE UNDERSTANDS IF HE DOESNT DO HEROIN AND ONLY DRINKS ITS OK. WELL HE IS 40 YEARS OLD AND HAS NOT HAD A LICENSE SINCE THE 80'S BECUZ OF ALOHOL AND TO BE HONEST I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH SOBREITY HE REALLY HAS BECUZ HE VIOLATES EVERY YEAR AND GOES TO PRISON FOR 8 MONTHS AT A TIME, SO I GUESS YOU CAN SAY HE HAS 8 MONTHS A YEAR CLEAN BY FORCE!! I KNEW YEARS AGO I COULD NOT DRINK TALK ABOUT A NASTY MEAN BI***!! SO I SWITCHED TO PILLS AND DID SPEED FOR 2 YEARS! WORSE NIGHTMARE OF MY LIFE AND I AM THE TYPE ALL OR NOTHING SO FOR ME ITS NOTHING. I USES TO LAUGH ABOUT POT LEADS TO HERPOIN BUT IN A SENSE IT LETS YOUR GUARD DOWN AND YOU ABSOULETLY DO THINGS YOU NORMALLY WOULD NOT DO. THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE. CAROL toi_ama 10-22-2003, 09:57 AM Yep, samiam-----that's the whole point of what I said in the first sentence there. I just said it a little differently. LOL barry333 10-22-2003, 11:50 AM Everyone makes very good points and I hope you hear what they azre saying. I know for me that I use to just say I am an addict but not and alcoholic, because i had no consequences from drinking. However, I used for 19 years and went to 10 treatment centers all over the country. Spending over 2 1/2 years in inpatient treatments before i was 18yrs old. I always relapsed as soon as I was discharged and the common denominator linking all of them was that I would get out and have a beer or a drink and think "what is this going to hurt". Well alot as it turns out, because I would drink and it made the next step that much easier....To get high. Sometimes it would be a month from that drink sometimes the same night, but it always lead me to drugs. I always justified drinking because as a stockbroker a lot of my business was done over drinks and i did not want to be the odd man out. I now welcome being the odd man out and have found if i dont drink i no longer get high. Life is so much better and i now have 15mths of sobriety. Which is a miracle in itself because I have to self surrender for a 30 month federal sentence in November and if I had had just had one beer who knows what I would have done to make my situation worse. I can not control where my mind goes once I start drinking, but history has taught me it is never good. I hope this helps. whichru 10-22-2003, 09:50 PM ooohhhh...your guys are pretty smart. thank you i will stay away from the beer as well as all the rest. i feel kind of dumb..but now i know.....again thanks jojo71 10-22-2003, 10:25 PM HEY---THIS IS A GREAT POST...I AM A RECOVERING ADDICT...BEEN CLEAN FOR JUST OVER A YEAR...IT TOOK ME GOING TO PRISON AND SIX MONTHS OF INTENSE TREATMENT TO SOBER UP...IT HAS BEEN A HARD ROAD...I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID...A BEER MAY SEEM HARMLESS WHEN HEROIN WUZ YOUR DRUG OF CHOICE BUT...ONE THING WILL EVENTUALLY LEAD TO ANOTHER...I HAVE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD AND HAVE WITNESSED IT ENOUGH TO KNOW IT'S TRUE!!! cherrie 10-24-2003, 11:29 AM I agree with everyone and what everyone has said. I know for me that one beer would never be enough and thousand would be too many and I can't even think that I could do it and get the desired results. For me to drink is to die and I want to live today in sobriety so I do everything and anything I can not to entertain or try to fool myself into thinking it might even be safe for me it would not be a return I would die. cherrie from tx lulu 10-25-2003, 08:47 AM Majority of those that have a drug problem cannot even touch liquor. Most cases shows that one drinks, (normally) to get a high, one that is coming off drugs and begins to drink, they desire more of that high. They’re fore leading to their preferred drug. Our body grows a tolerance to a certain drug, not getting that same high. For most drug users, drinking liqour simply is not enough to be high on. |