mommaof5
10-22-2007, 11:56 AM
I FINALLY got to go visit my mom. I have been patiently waiting for 4 months. I had a baby 6 weeks ago and this was to be the first time she met her granddaughter. The visit with my mom went great, but some of the things that happened just made my blood boil!! I arrived Friday evening and had my form filled out ahead of time compliments of one of my family members so that it made the process go a little bit faster. The woman working behind the desk took my form and ripped it up and then rudely told me the officer on the list was no longer there and I needed to fill out another one. I stood there thinking she was going to give me the proper form and she then said they are over on that table. I said ok didnt know my first time here. So I filled out the form with her name on it. I had my plastic bag with my diapers, bottle, wipes & my unopened formula. Well my bag was to big & had a blue tint to it... no problem... and apparently Carswell has changed their policy regarding powdered formula since I last checked and now it has to be mixed.. so that was taken care of... I visited with my mom and it went very well. The next day I returned to the same chipper staff member and of course she was yelling at people who were there to visit and was about as hateful as she could be. On Sunday we went for a short visit because we had to drive home and we were one of the first persons there. The same sweet angel was working again and on the form I didnt write the time in because I wasnt sure if it was supposed to be the time I walked through the door or if it was the time when she got around to processing us. So she called her name and me and my 5 kids walked up there to get our stamps so we could proceed to the visitation room. She starts yelling at me because I didnt write the time on the form and she wasnt going to do that for me and treated me like an idiot and said there is a clock on the wall right above your head. So I wrote in 8:30 put my form back in the box and we went to the bottom of the pile. I thought to myself would it have REALLY broke her hand to write in 3 numbers?? And if she didnt like her job then McDonalds is always hiring. Then there was a gentleman going into the maximum side and he forgot to write the date and the time... she wrote it on there for him and let him proceed. Now aint that about a b****! I finally got in to see my mom and enjoyed the time I spent with her she got to hold her granddaughter and see the rest of the kids, but the whole time I thought to myself is that how they treat the people that are housed there? Here I am just visiting and spent a brief amount of time with this woman and she treated me like something she stepped in how does she treat my mother and the rest of them? OOH it just makes my blood boil to no end! But I am a firm believer in karma and she to will get hers at some point in time. I used to work at a childrens facility and yes I had to be firm and at times I had to chew some butt, but the one thing I kept in the back of my mind at all times was how would I want someone to treat my child. Apparently these charmers dont look at life that way. I could understand if I went in with an attitude and was rude and hateful to this woman, but I was respectful when I really wanted to put my foot in her a**! Now I did encounter other staff members who were very pleasant, helpful and friendly. They even joked around with us and made the rest of our visit a good one. It is just unfortunate that you have one or two people that can make it sour in the beginning.
Mrs. SR Vasquez
10-22-2007, 12:08 PM
That's a shame, some women just don't like other women. Maybe she was jealous of you. What goes around comes around.
mommaof5
10-22-2007, 12:54 PM
It wasnt just me she was rude to it was pretty much everyone that walked through the door!!! I guess they dont take in consideration that number one we cant wait to get processed to see our loved ones and the fact that we have to travel great distance to get there.. fortunately I only had a 5 hr drive but I had to get up at 5am scramble to get 5 kids plus myself ready so we could hurry up to get in line to wait to get a pass to pull in the gates and then wait yet some more for her to do her job. Not to mention the expense of going. I am not complaining a bit but I have saved my money so we could visit all three days... between fuel, hotel for 2 nights, eating out or packing an ice chest... and then after i bought 3 extra cans of formula i couldnt use.. not that it wont be used later but i didnt need it all at once.. then i had to go buy more formula that was pre mixed and sealed so that i could stay longer to visit because a mixed bottle wouldnt have kept for 6 hours. I realize I am not the only one that goes through this and I had tried to call the day before I went to visit to verify things & they didnt know & told me to call during visitation hours which was to little to late I was already there!
ricky'swife
10-22-2007, 08:37 PM
I feel for you and I am hoping that I can survive going to Carswell. My husband was just sentenced and the judge ordered that he be sent to Carswell. We live about 13 hours away so it will be a long expensive trip for us. Hopefully I can be as nice as you were with her.
lynnshusband
10-22-2007, 10:38 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of the BOP and Carswell FMC. Believe me that is NOTHING to compare with the insulting manner by which the women inside are treated. No one is under any illusion that it will be a "fun" place, but the demeaning and insulting manner in which many of the administration and staff deal with the women is sickening. And, up to now it has practiced and accepted from the top on down. Just a 5 minute visit with my wife in person or a phone call and my blood pressure becomes dangerously high.
Hopefully with the new warden, changes will begin to occur. A change in the Camp Administrator would help in that area significantly. While any changes will likely not benefit my wife as she is about 3 months from HWH eligibilty, I pray for the other women who are and will be there, that they will begin. Change, unfortunately in a beuraucracy as entrenched as the BOP is slow.
mommaof5
10-23-2007, 09:15 AM
I can only imagine how horrible they treat the women in there. One of my aunts works in a state prison and she said some of the guards there are just downright horrible to the men there. She said they find the dumbest ones to hire most of them that cant get a job anywhere else! Most often those with little man syndrome which makes it even worse. Oh trust me I wanted to tell that hag off, but didnt because I didnt want it to come back on my mother. I would never make it in a place like that my permanent housing would be the shu. I am very vocal and have a limited tolerance for BS. But for now I know I have to suck it up and take it as it comes. You know I wonder if the Dept of Justice ever does suprise visits... i know when i worked at the childrens home sometimes we would have announced visits and sometime we had suprise visits and most often those were the days when everything that had could go wrong had gone wrong. The kids rooms were a mess that day or I hadnt finished my paperwork or some of the kids had plugged up the toilets and we were waiting on a plumber.. i remember one time running building to building with a plunger! Not that we ever had anything to hide but they were extremley picky on things like we couldnt have an open carton of milk in the fridge which to me is wasteful to have a child get a glass of milk out at 7am and liscensing show up at 9am and have to throw out the rest... a lot of times i would sneak it to my house (i lived on campus) and bring it back when they left! One time the kids were cleaning the kitchen in the dorm and there was a cake someone had made and told them to set it in the oven until they were finished cleaning the counters and forgot about it and DHS showed up that day to inspect... that was kind of embarrassing!!