Good Morning,

Just wanted to pop in and say hello. How is everyone doing?

I have been better and it is a long story. Last week I typed it all out and went to send it and something happened and I lost it before I could post it. That really made my day.. (NOT)

The jist of it-- is my son witnessed a rape and went for help, now he is being threatened and called a snitch, it scared him so bad that he asked for PC but that is the same place they call the hole. He has no privledges and cannot even make any phone calls or have visits. I am really scared for him and not being able to talk to him is killing me.

I am just sick with thinking about it all, I am taking a mental health day and going to visit a dear friend of mine and I hope that I can gain some strength by just getting away.

Talk to you all later.

Susan

Susan,
I am so sorry to hear that news about your son. I am just as new to this as you are so I really have no advise to give you. I hope visiting with your friend helps you a bit. You and your son will be in my prayers. Take care.

Susan, you and your son are are going through so much it sickens me. I wish he had never witnessed something like that. I am glad that you took a day off and are going to see your friend. You need a little time for yourself. Maybe your friend will have some insight, knowing you so well.

Same as the other posts, sorry for the news about your son. Take care of yourself and enjoy your visit with your friend. You and your son will be in our thoughts and prayers. PEACE!!

Susan,

I'm so sorry to hear what happened to your son. I'm kicking my self in the butt for not giving you some advise to pass on to him when you first posted the one where they were pressuring him. It use to be in the old days, that guys spent time in the county jail, where they were schooled on doing time. But with all the youngsters going to prison so early now, they don't get to learn about all the do's & don'ts. I hate to say this but he has to take these threats serious. He has to try to get moved to another prison. If they just move him to another yard it won't help him all that much. Damn this is really a messed up situation. PC really sucks, I posted my feelings on PC under your thread "Help son being sized up" in the 911 emergency forum. Good luck & my prayers are with you & your son. ----------Ken

There are some things that may help him but there are no easy answers.

I had a good day yesterday and I feel more in control today. Thank you all for responses.

You are right Kconners (sorry don't know your name) my son or myself knew nothing about the "ropes" of prison life. I just cannot for the life of me process this though. I mean I understand if you were snitching on the drugs or something to that effect that is happening in prison. But what makes it acceptable that you cannot help a fellow prisoner and get help when they are being raped? Why is rape an acceptable act where by the silences they keep it perpetuates the problem. I suppose it goes something like this a snitch is a snitch is a snitch....

Damn I am so angry, my son should have never went on this rap in the first place and it has been one thing after another. This sickens me.

I don't know if there is anything I can do or someone to contact at the prison? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Susan

Susan------I don't have any suggestions as I am about to be faced with the same fear. My son is currently at a private facility and waiting to be transported to another unit. He is young too. Just continue to pray because prayers are very very powerful, and hope for the best. You and your son will definitely be in my thoughts and prayers. Hang in there! PEACE!

I will try to explain the convict mentality, or prison thinking, but the problem is to many on the outside it's hard to understand. Normal logic doesn't apply inside. First, what was happening to this guy wasn't any of your sons business, so as they see it he put himself where he shouldn't have been. Even when someone gets stabbed in prison no one will go & try to help the guy, everyone gets up & walks away. The chances are if the roles were reversed the guy your son tried to help would not have helped your son. They also believe that if your son didn't like what was going on it was up to him to stop it. About the snitch part, if he will tell on this what else will he tell on, & who else will he tell on, and you can't let guys on the yard think it's ok to snitch for anything. Now days sniching is pretty prevelent, but it is much more low key, & done in sneaky ways, for a variety of reasons. We had one guy plant a shank in a guys locker, then drop a note to the CO's about it, & the guy got taken away. It seems that the guy owed alot of money to his dope dealer & couldn't pay. Dealer gone, debt gone. It didn't work that way but the guy tried, LOL.----------Ken

SUSAN


LISTEN TO EVERY WORD THAT KEN TELLS YOU.... HE GIVES SOME GREAT ADVICE.... HE REALLY CAN HELP YOU SON COME OUT OF THIS IN ONE PIECE..


MAY GOD BLESS YOU CHILD..

MY HEART IS WITH YOU
DONNA

Just when things start to look up they come crashing down it a d*mn roller coaster will it ever stop I thought when I knew where he was and that it was harder to get the Drugs things would get better, right. The stupid thing just chanced tracks is all! Susan I'm sorry to hear about what's happened. I pray for all of us every night. My sons in protective management now Gang members are threating him bad now. So they lock him up away from the others. His cellmate just gotten beaten and raped at the last camp he was in so after being beaten 2 days after being sent to the camp my sons in he "checked in". Everything has a "cost" in their world, your looked upon as weak and it's hard to get "respect" on the compound after "checking in" sometimes they move you to a different prision. And your priveleges are gone no phone, you must arrange "special visits" and hope you get them. As far as letting you know what's happening forget it. I go to the Dollar Store and stock up on cards and send them every 2 days so he has something to look forward to and doesn't go nuts in that cell. I do hope he does get to take his GED Test before they move him (if they move him) but it's unlikely he will:( And if they move him he'll be going across the state only so many YO Prisions here. That will s*ck! Pray for Peace. You are all in my prayers. love ya! cl

MAY GOD LOOK DOWN ON US AND BLESS US AND KEEP US ALL.

THERE HAS TO BE A SILVER LINING IN ALL THESE CLOUDS.

MY LOVE
DONNA