do the families of inmates in virginia really love them? i sure do not see alot of activity on the virginia state forum like i do from the families of inmates in other states. come on virginians, let us show support for our loved ones.

Holly, Girl,

I know you won't see this, but I want and need to say this!

Honey, WE LOVE YOU! We can't wait till you call after the Fourteenth.

Love,

Aunt Patti, Aunt Linda, cousins Judy, Jim, and Sara

I love my Virginia inmate more than life itself. We are both from SC. He is in FCI Petersburg. The low institution. He has only been there a month. Hasnt had any problems thusfar. Except that when transferring his phone money from his comissary acct they got it mixed up with somebody else with the same name. We we havent talked in a month. I havent been approved for visitation as of yet but hope that is in the works. I write him everyday. Never miss a day. i agree there isnt much action in the Virginia section. I have only found 2 people on here with loved ones where my man is. One is in the low and one in the medium. They have been a great help to me gettin past this first month. Thanks ya'll! It is getting better but I still have my days!!!

I POSTED THIS IN HOPES THAT IT WOULD CAUSE VIRGINIANS TO GET MAD AND WANT TO STATE THAT THEY DO CARE ABOUT THIER LOVED ONES IN PRISON. I CAN ONLY GUESS THAT I WAS SADLY RIGHT. VIRGINIANS DON'T CARE. I DO CARE ABOUT MY FIANCE' AND I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR HER RIGHTS AND HER FREEDOM FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES. I SERVED IN THE USMC FOR OVER 7 YEARS AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN AS SADDENED BY PEOPLE UNTIL NOW. I NO LONGER CARE TO LIVE IN VIRGINIA OR THE U.S. WHEN MY FIANCE' GETS OUT WE WILL LEAVE THIS GOD AWFUL STATE AND COUNTRY.

I agree 100% Sandy. The thought of leaving this country even crossed my mind as well. This place is a joke and the govt is the biggest joke of all!

My boy just arrived in the FCI Petersburg MED. And of course I love him, but I spend most of my time in the Federal Form.

wow Fab its so good to see somebody else who has a loved one there. There arent too many of us!

well my man friend was released from va in april , i have pen pals , just not in va , a rule my man asked me to abide by ,

so dc area is here ,

Sandy,

I am angry at this state and this country.

Most of my family has left the states, my parents cannot because of their age, I will not because of my parents, and I remain to support my niece.

My eldest daughter Judy, resigned a commission in the Air Force Reserve over her cousin's conviction and now lives overseas. My youngest Sara lives with Judy and her husband going to college overseas for she plans never to return to the U.S.

My son recently told a recruiter that because of my conviction and his cousin's conviction that he would neither volunteer for, allow himself to be drafted into the Armed Forces of this country. Nor would he fight for this country. Research my posts it is in the Lounge.

He is prepared to either go to prison or return to our native Germany and request political asylum if the draft returns. Preferably the latter.

So, I think we have pretty much told this country what we think of it.

Yes, we are angry, I also think there are many people who are working behind the scenes to support our inmates.

By the way, I support your fiancee, and anyone in the system, regardless of circumstance and I believe the Guilty are, in most cases, in the courts, i.e., commonwealth attornies, judges, and the members of our supposed representative governments in Richmond and Washington, DC.

I know you are angry, so are we.

Can you give us any other ideas of how to fight this system?

Patti

PS: Yes, my first post here was directed at my niece and yes we do love her.

patti,
i wish i knew what to do. i will probably enclose a letter about the prison system along with my federal and state taxes this year. just think if everyone who paid taxes and had a family member or loved one in prison did that. wow!
that is the most i can think of right now other than writing everyone in politics. we need to join together like they did in georgia. they are 600,000 strong and the doc is listening to them. think about it.

Sandi,

I think that an organized flood of letters to the politicians might be a good thing.

Also, If I might make a suggestion, on a personal note, our family has organized our investments in such away, as to put as much as we can into a non taxable status, retirement fund, etc. That way we are denying the goverment, as much as, we possibly can - legally - monies used to run their prisons and fund this illegal war. That is about the only other thing we can do.

Also, have you seen or joined other support groups in Virginia?

I am going to look at the Georgia forum and try to find more info on the group in Georgia.

With a niece who is - I believe - wrongfully convicted and falsely imprisoned by this state, I wish to become more involved. I would like to know more of your thoughts on organizing in VA.

Please, know I am extremely proud of my children and the stance they have taken.

Patti

dear patti,
my fiance' was guilty of her drug crime, but she got 10 years instead of 2 years just because she would not squeal on the people she bought the drugs from for fear of her mother and children's lives. she had been threatened before about that. the prosector wanted to give her 90 years.

My boyfriend and I live in VA, but when he was arrested he was extradited to PA. I spend more time finding out things pertaining to PA and not VA. If I can be of help to anyone in VA let me know. Julia

I love my VA inmate more tha anything. I usually hang out in the "husband/bouyfriends/general board" and don't have much time to cruise around all the boards. Tonite I thought I'd check to see if anything was up, had some time.

Of course I love my husband - but I guess I don't post alot in the VA forum because I don't really feel like a Virginian. We've been here 4 hears, we're native Californians - I don't know alot of answers about anything legal, this is our first time with the law, so I can't answer many questions.

I guess I'll check out the VA forum more often. Maybe we just don't have the amt of inmates that Ca, Fl, Tx, etc have - the population isn't nearly as much, so when you compare with other states, remember the populations. HEad over to like North Dakota or Wyoming and see how their forum is moving....

Blessings!

My husband is being sent back for probation violation ( big laugh). In a very short time, one month to be exact, I have met several people who have given support and encouragement. I would like to thank each one. I am just waiting till I can visit him for the first time.
We need to stick together and friends and spouses to "fix" the system.

I love my husband very much. And so do his 3 kids we have been there for him every step of the way through this hell hole. He has been locked up for 5 years 7 months. We are still fighting the system. Virginia has to be the hardest state to fight against. There is so much coruption in the state it is unreal. The commonwealth attorney and the lawyers go golfing everyday to figure out there next plan of attack. I truley belive they are all in it together. They love to screw up peoples lives. They put someone in prisions for 10 years the must do 8.5. They go by the old guide lines that they used before they got rid of perole. Its a shame but all you can do is appeal it over and again. By the time we finally get this to the Federal courts his time will be up. I could go on forever about all of the court cases we have had but I just makes me mad to know there is nothing you can do about it unless you have and endless supply of money and that may not even work :fb: :fb:

virginia is the most corrupt state in this country. the govenor has said that anyone in prison should remain there. all he wants is to bankrupt this state. my fiance' would love to leave here when she gets out, but her mother is 73 years old and in poor health. she will not leave her. i can not leave my sandy either, so we are both stuck in this hellhole of a state. she got 10 years also. she has 28 1/2 months left to go before they allow her to walk in the sunshine again. then she will have to try to survive in a state that hates excons and wants them to fail and go back to prison.

Sandy313: I have a daughter in Fluvanna Correctional for Women and I agree with you Va is punishing the drug crimes even more so than if they were putting a gun to someone. My daughter is doing six years on probation violations, if she had just pled guilty her time would have been a whole lot less. And with this no parole law it doesn't give the inmates any hope for a light at the end of the tunnel.

LC

First of all, I love my man in VA. (Crazy as he is). He's in County now, but he went to state last year. I live in MD, but I take two subways and a bus to see him as often as possible. I agree with Sandy313. It does seem like VA is a backwards state where the law is concerned. They seem to think "Lock 'em up and throw away the key" instead of figuring out more economical and productive ways to do things. My man complains about that too.

:cuffs:
I agree with you A'sbaby! Those Virginian law makers are :smash: :argh

The way I see it, we have only three ways that we can handle these Virginian law makers.

1. We remain sheep and let them continue to let them shear us and and our loved ones in prison, or;

2. we vote them out of office, or if necessary;

3. we handle them the way our Founding Fathers handled the British.

dear patti,
i agree with number 1 and 2. we should vote them out of office if possible and if that does not work, then we should send them packing permanently. i am not one easily brought to violent thoughts, but the lawmakers in virginia have brought me there. i am fed up with them cutting meals, health care, education for the inmates while freezing their meager pay and raising the cost of thier supplies. they know that the loved ones on the outside will struggle to pick up the slack and they love it. they hope that we will fail so that the inmates won't have a stable home to go back to when they get out. that way they have a permanent supply of cheap labor for their work projects. what a crock of sh--!
i would blow this state off the map if i did not care so much about the inmates and their loved ones here.
sorry to ramble. i am very tired and my finances are nearly depleted. i am almost at my last straw. i hope you are fairing better.
bye for now. i love you guys alot.
mark

Mark,

I know exactly where you are, I'm there too. I was just getting ready to write a friend and invite her to what she and I kiddingly call our pity parties. I don't do it often, but it seems like I have been more lately. We have been soo financially stretched because of all the financial burden the state has put on me, that frankly I'm not sure we are going to make it.

I've even told Linda to cut bait and run, (course she would never do it) because I am dragging her down too. Of course, if I don't keep the damned restitution up - well - I might be saying Hi to Sandy in person.

We are strong and we will make it - I keep saying that but in the back of my mind I wonder. So, I know where you are on the finances. I even shorted my restitution some this month to get some money to my niece. But, as we know there will eventually be consequences - for me.

I hope you know that I am just venting here.

You take care, Mark,

Remember we are strong, we will survive and we WILL NEVER bow down to these (explicative deleted) lawmakers!

Give our love to Sandy, Love you,

Patti

dear patti,
i can definately feel and share your pain. please do not allow yourself to go back to prison. i beg you not to do that.
sandy tells me that the few freedoms they have now are slowly being stripped away for financial gain by doc and the state. they would love for the inmates to all die off, so they could fill the prisons with new sheep for the slaughter.
you can vent to me anytime you need. i let sandy do it all of the time. i am here for you and everyone else at pto. take care.
mark

Mark,

I promise you that I will do all that I can not to go back. Not, the best option in my mind, going back that is. We will not let these thieving lawmakers and courts defeat us, if we can help it!

If you ever need us to vent or need a shoulder, you know we are here.

Patti

thank you patti. i am always thankful for good friends like you and the others here at pto. i will probably be leaving the stafford area around june of 2004 for my new life in the roanoke area. i will be close to sandy's mom and i will be in place to help sandy get started out with the best chance at a bright future that i can give her. bless you and my best wishes for you, linda and your niece. peace be with you always.
mark and sandy

Patti:

I cannot believe you would ever entertain the idea of letting them win. You are stronger than that. Don't let them win....you can do this, just don't long range it because that will overwhelm you. Day to Day.

Trikess,

Everyonce in awhile, I feel overwelmed, like everybody I guess, and you are right when I think about dealing with this bs until December of 08. It is overwelming. Linda keeps saying one day at a time and if necessary one minute at a time. So I am down to one minute to the next again.

Patti

Patti:

Times get tough on all of us at certain points in our lives, but in your case you have to remember it's easier here than there no matter how discouraging it may be. Look around you and you will see people dealing with physical disabilities and heartaches that will make your situation seem so small in comparison and they go on. Stay strong

Linda