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RaW-Raswifey 09-03-2003, 07:06 PM Does anyone know the statistics of men going bak to prison after their first time being incarcerated? Ive been waiting on my boyfriend, , and I just want to know the chances of me having to be this strong again later on in life.
toi_ama 09-03-2003, 07:44 PM Well, I don't know where you could find statistics, but each case is individual. Until he gets out, you probably won't know whether or not he's going to stay out.
Bureau of Justice Statistics provides federal, state and county stats on almost everything having to do w/prisoners. Their website is: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/. They do have recidivism rates but I don't know if they break it down by number of offenses, or not.
tebkrg 09-05-2003, 03:14 AM I think that you will find that the statistics around this are an unreliable science... they do not necessarily break down by crime, by age, by number of offences... so in other words every one is grouped together.
I think that you will also find reading through the statistics that a lot of men and women that return to prison after release do so on a technical violation of their parole. There is not necessarily a reoffence of the original crime or a new crime but a violation of parole. The parole violation could be anything from being late with curfew to dropping a dirty UA.
A place where I have seen many good studies and research findings is:
http://www.urban.org/
Go to "Research" "Crime and Justice" "Corrections and Prisoners" and you will find many hours of reading on recidivism, and statistical information.
This link may take you right there... there are many 'pages' of studies so be sure to click on 'next page'...
http://www.urban.org/Template.cfm?Section=ByTopic&NavMenuID=62&TopicID=205&TopicName=Corrections%20and%20Prisoners
cheryl 09-17-2003, 04:51 PM I read somewhere it's like 40% go back. But I do think it depends on the crime, person and support they get when they get out. I pray none of ours are in that percent! I'm sure it's hard for all involved. Peace. cl
Tebkrg is right. My son said that many of the inmates he has met that have re-entered were on stupid violations like driving with someone who didn't have insurance or a license. Questions I would think of asking! They have to be really careful when they get out.
Inside Out 07-07-2004, 08:43 AM I have read from many sources that the rate of re-entry is 85%. It includes all probation violations etc. Network For Life....a faith based program that helps inmates through a mentoring program says that they have drastically reduced that statistic to 15%.
MiamiChica22 07-07-2004, 09:35 AM RaW-Raswifey-I'm hear to lend an ear if you need to talk about something. We all are here for you. I'm reading between the lines here and am guessing that since you are concerned about re-entry...there is something going on that makes you think he is headed back? Please PM me. :)
Manzanita 09-09-2004, 03:17 PM this was a good one too...
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76344
check out these links for men who have been incarcerated for long terms, they are said to have a better chance than most being inside longer actually... and also statistics VARY....I would say it always depends on a lot of things -I agree with Teb and do not always feel like statistics are all that accurate! and Unreliable!!
onexofhis 10-01-2004, 06:33 PM :( Well my man didn't have the time to get caught doing anything to get put back in.He maxed out his sentence March 23/04 and was dead by April 13/04. He didn't change his ways and his bad habits got him in "THE END!" :broken: :cry:
Manzanita 10-01-2004, 10:09 PM oh my.....I am so sorry, this is horrible news....what happened can you say? Again, I am so sorry for this loss...
I have a problem with all recividism statistics, as recividism has yet to be clearly defined. One definition is: the rate of re-offense.
Estimates of recidivism following incarceration vary greatly because of variations in how recidivism is defined (charges versus convictions, repeating the same crime or a new crime).
I don't trust any statistic that is based on inaccurate, undefined information.
Just my 2 cents.
JJT
onexofhis 10-02-2004, 08:48 AM Unfortuneitly he was drinking,smoking and taking pills and I don't know what all. He gave himself a deadly cocktail. We did get to spend his birthday and Easter together though. And that night he DID KNOW that he was LOVED VERY MUCH!
PatitoDeHule 11-02-2004, 03:19 PM I have a problem with all recividism statistics, as recividism has yet to be clearly defined. One definition is: the rate of re-offense.
Estimates of recidivism following incarceration vary greatly because of variations in how recidivism is defined (charges versus convictions, repeating the same crime or a new crime).
I don't trust any statistic that is based on inaccurate, undefined information.
Just my 2 cents.
JJTYou mention a valid point here. When you read statistics, you have to read very carefully how the terms are defined. For example, in the recidivism statistics of the BJS the term "recidivism" is defined as "rearrest within 3 years of release." This particular definition has become a sort of standard, but it is not universal.
In the BJS recidivism statistics they show the overall recidivism rate as 62%. This is the number of persons who are rearrested for any offense within three years of release, whether convicted or not. My recollection is that this becomes 43% when considering those reconvicted.
That 62% statistic is broken down into many subgroups. For example, the rate for sex offenders is only 5.3% and the rate for property crimes is 73%. Those are the highest and lowest by subcategories.
They are only statistics, though. One of the principal studies is a 1994 cohort study done from fifteen states that keep detailed statistics. As I remember, about two thirds of persons released tracked. So the question to keep in the back of your mind is what happened to the other one third? They could have been lost because they skipped out on parole or some such issue, and you would want to know whether they would be expected to have the same rate as those who were tracked. If those tracked were simply selected randomly, you would expect that 62% to be general throughout the fifteen states surveyed. My experience is that in reviewing statistics of other states the numbers are fairly compatible. That suggests to me that the 62% rate is a reasonable expectation across all states.
Remember, it is a rearrest rate, not a conviction rate.
I have a book on reentry and parole issues. It said that the rate of returning to prison on parole violations was 66% in CA and only 7% in Florida! We aren't talking about new crimes here, just the return rate.
Abner 12-14-2004, 11:10 AM RasWIFEY:
Your question is reasonable, but by now it ought to clear it's not simple to answer.
Don't get skulled by the gross numbers nationwide.
Stats vary all over the place, because the laws that affect parole, etc., which determine who reenters and when (to a large extent) vary a great deal.
One reason that FLorida has a low recid rate of 7% (Frankly I find that hard to believe) is that they don't parole anyone anymore. Everyone serves at least 85% of a sentence, for offenses committed after 1995.
Parole violation is a major reason for going back. I recall a post in the Arizona forum by a guy who paroled on a drug offense, and that, out of 44 guys who went with him, only TWO (2), including him, completed their parole successfully. In many states, including Hawaii and California, parole or probation violations account for about 50% of prison admissions every year.
Bottom line is, learn the numbers for your husband's crime, age, state etc.
Hope this helps.
abner
I tried to look up that figure in my book "when prisoners come home" by Joan Petersilia. I'll have to look when I have more time. Perhaps it was 7% for parole violations as a reason to go back to prison. I was speaking from memory as it struck me how different the figures were state to state.
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