I am curious about the various sentence lengths for "lifers" in dif states.In MI it used to be 7-10 and you were out now it seems to be 20-25yrs though these are just examples as you may NEVER get out.

Bryan has a chance in 2013 after 18 yrs served otherwise after 20-25 yrs there as well.Unless that "law"(?) goes through to review lifers cases and check out the circumstances etc as he is a first time offender

Well, I don't in exactly what is actually considered to be life in WI, but I do know my cousin is LWOP for 50 years. He was sentenced 1996 and has to sit 2046 until he is eligable for parole. If he is denied then, he sits until 2056, another 10 years. So, I guess he is eligible but not until '46.

It may depend on how old the person is when they get sentenced as well. For example, a life sentence may be 20-25 years for a 40 year old person. My cousin was 15 years old when he got sentenced, that may be why he got so long of a "life sentence".

Each state, each DOC and the BOP issue records cards of some sort or another to every inmate. Each inmate knows when his out date is. If there is any adjusted minimum out date it is listed there too (with credit for good time/etc).

I cannot forsee of anyone being given an actual LIFE sentence and being given an out date in 10 years.
That would be a 10 year sentence that they'd have gotten.

Every prisoner knows what their dates are. It's not some great mystery to them. And LIFE as a sentence (not the 25-to-Life sorta indeterminate sentence) has no numeric out date. You can serve out when you die.

Hello Tracy,

I'll answer you althought I don't know anything about US systems..

But here in Finland life sentence is as it says: rest of your life. Or it should be. When you get a life sentence only President can set you free. Longest life sentence has been 14 years. So average time for life sentence is 12-14 years. Young offenders sit usually 8-9 years of their life sentences.

And if you are first time in trouble you sit only half of your sentence, including lifesentence too. Yes, I know my country is soft on crimes.

The 7-10 thing I believe was in use in the 80's here but yes that was what you actually served!That was a BIG deal and then politicians went way the other way and that's what caused our overcrowding :(

Bryan does has an actual court date scheduled in March 2013(boy its only 10 yrs but sounds looooong!!!!) I don't know all the legal mumbo jumbo but I was stating here and alot of other states I have heard that you only actually serve 20-25 yrs,though if some are caught when there older yep they'll likely die first. But also I was looking into legislation,etc and because of there overcrowding problem they are reviewing all lifer cases to weed out the ones that are 1st offenders and ones with special circumstances.Bryan is both so is his brother so HOPEFULLY them and other deserving lifers,ones trying to turn things around and act/do right will be the first to get a chance at parole. I think that's the way it should be. And studies have shown the recidivism rate is ALOT smaller than other offenders

yeah but what about the truth in sentencing law???? Where does that come in?

heard of it.....no idea further than that :(

Truth in sentencing usually has an application for parole where someone has parole eligibility... That is where most of the state policies on calculating % of sentence parole eligibilities came from. It's what draws the line on violent vs. non-violent offenses..

One fellow gets to be be eligible for parole in 20 % of his 10 year sentence because his offense is cold checks...
The next guy gets to serve 50% of the same 10 year sentence before meeting the board because his offense was beating his wife, or a stranger.

Concessions are made to the 50% practice,... in KY for example the policy is a max of 144 months... 50% or 12 years, whichever comes first... But betchur boots... matters not if the 12 years fly by and you belly up to the board... if you show up with a 500 year sentence or Life,...they will give you the maximum 144 month deferment or serve out paper.

I don;t know if I am 100% following you, Life.

Are you saying that the truth in sentencing law doesn't mean they absolutely have to sit out there entire sentence???

Sorry, but I guess I;m confused.

Some States sill allow a commutation of sentence for those sentenced to LifeWO. Nevada however amended that to anyone scentenced on or before 1979..Thus...that's exactly what it means... I have a friend who was sentenced in 1979 who received to LifeWO...He did 23 years...he went to the board and recieved his commutation in December 2001. He was commuted to Life W....he made a parole date for February 2002...and no kidding....was released on his first review. I was shocked it happened so fast...I hadn't talked to him in ages but I always knew in the back of my head someday he would walk thru my door and no kidding..one day the door opened at my office and there he was...He looked great..He'd really taken good care of himself considering the conditions. He's stopped by a few times since then but, usually one of us is bogged down and we don't get alot of time to talk. I'd love to do that with him..I'd love to know how he's ajusting...After all, he was just a kid practically when he went down...How do you walk in a 23 year old guy and walk out a 46 year old "man" to the changes? Tons of questions I'd like to know.
Anyway..Pardon's, Parole's and commutation's of sentence are possible but they take a ton of tenacity and endurance. And some deep. honest, reality soul searching if you're in love with a lifer.


Margo
Not intended to be harsh..Just a realistic perspective.

ok so im in cali and lets say my man gets 15 to life, what does he actually have to serve b4 he is eligble for parole? 10years? or the whole 15 even if hes doing good and its his frist offense and hes way young. just wondering ty ktc

I think possibly the whole 15 "at least" but I don't totally understand what Life2 said either and I think that would apply in CA.However I do think because he has a min and max time he could get in on the "good time" option :)

In PA if you get a life sentence it means you serve it without the possibility of parole. Life IS life [natural life]. There are literally 1000's in PA prisons who are serving this kind of sentence. There are some lifer groups in PA who do lots of good work. PM me if you want their names/addresses or check the PA forum here at PTO.

my husband has a 25 to life sentence. i was told he could be paroled after he does the 25. but with gov. davis in office nobody with a loss of life has been paroled. or will be as long as he's in office. but thats in california of coarse.

I know this post is old but I was told an inmate has to do a third of his sentence off of a 25 to life sentence. See if this adds up. My fiancee went to prison in 1980. He is serving a 25 to life sentence and has been elgible for parole since 1997. Does that add up to a third? I'm an idiot in math...But also a friend of mine was on death row and the governer overturned that conviction, ruled it unconstitutional...I dont know the specifics...but he now has 7yrs to Life. Does that mean he has already done his time? he's been elgible for parole since...forever probably...and has already served 27 years.....interesting!...

My understanding of LIFE OR LWOP here in MI is that LWOP means either you receive a pardon/commutation from the governor. LIFE means 20-Life and you will be doing atleast the 20 and more than likely more than the 20. It seems to be rare in MI to be released at your given earliest release date because the parole board isn't granting paroles fairly.

In WV LWOP says that they will sit for the rest and remainder of their natural life or until the day they die behind bars. Just a Life sentence in the state of WV is only 25 years.

I can't believe I have not seen this LIFE forum before or that no one here is from Texas.

Just wanted to mention that my husband is doing life and he has to do 20 flat before he comes up for parole, which is in 2007.

Hey Tracy,
I believe Pa is one of the few states that when they say Life they mean Life. I am so hoping i am. I know there is Comutation

Yes I have heard that :rolleyes: but stranger things have happened!:)

My guy is in OK and he has done 15 years so far, He had his first jacket review and was denied. He has a job and has completed classes, but we are waiting to hear from the parole board about why he was denied.

Hello everyone.. wanted to talk tonite!! since i had this conversation today with my boyfriend love of my life.. :)) we had visit today.. and i finally asked about the future.. just to get a feel for where he is at.. and where "we" are at..he told me he is waiting a year to ask for a transfer.. and then he started tallking about possibly a 2 - 3 year wait.. before another chance at new trial or the waiting for 20 years and looking for a commute?? all i know is i love him and trying to cope with this LWOP. I am praying and holding on that something will "positive" will happen i try not to look into the future.

Thanks for letting me share i needed too tonite.
DOnna

Hi everyone...My guy is locked up in Cali at P.V.S.P. and he is serving a 25 to life with possability of parole. Now i live in mighigan and im not real sure about the cali laws but i know he goes for parole in January of 2010 . He has already served 10 years and by the time he goes up for parole he will have served 17 years so they said with his good time and the 17 years that makes him eligable for parole. Is there a chance he will get it? they Parole the guys when they go up? If someone could help and try and explain how the laws are i would be so happy. Any thing anyone could tell me would be great.
Have a great day everyone.....Jenn

Jennpie, California just got rid of the governer who was taking parole dates from Lifers, so your guy might have a chance at Parole at that time. The thing about the BPT is that they deny parole for ANY reasons! You can have the best record in the prison and they still look for reasons for denial. Be prepared for that! I am going through that now. My fiancee has a parole hearing in July 04. All I can do is pray..but I did hook up a real good support letter. Anyone interested in reading it I'll be glad to share...

Yasmeen

Hey, Yaseem. I would like to see your support letter can you (((PM MEMBER FOR MORE INFORMATION--personal E-dress removed per PTO policy))))
Thanks, kim

HELLO I AM FROM MISSOURI AND MY OTHER 1/2 HAS TO SERVE 13 YEARS BEFORE HIS FIRST PAROLE HEARING IN 2008. THE HARDEST PART IS THE UNKNOWNING OF WHEN OR IF HE WILL EVER COME HOME.

Mine was 23 and got 27 years and ten months. We did get some thrown out. He's done ten and will, most likely finish eight more. We are over the hill, more behind than before. Fed so forget the parole and good time. My best friend, when I was in, was doing life, this is MA, and then life for a man in mass and life for a woman, was different. She was told she would max out at 17 years. After 14 she went to a prelease and was finally relleased after 15 years, less than my man who did not get "life" another good friend was out on bail for murder and killed again, she gor paroled to her second sentence. she had to do thirty two years before the parole came up on the second, but the judge told her if she was still alive in 40 years, she could go home. It's all so arbitrary!

Prepare yourself for the WORST:mad: and HOPE for the BEST:yes:

actually with the truth in sentencing you must serve the whole time, no questions asked. If someone as an indeteriment sentence meaning 25-40 years, the first chance doe parole is 1/3 that time (in most states, can vary from 1/3 to 2/3 to all). At least that is what I am learning in college, being a criminology major.

Also I forgot to say, it least when I was in, Life – you got a chance to get out, but Life and a day meant, no how no way.

in north carolina, if you are sentenced to life, then you will serve life. we no longer have parole here :(

Depends on State with a truth n sentencing law day for day. In ohio it depends on the type of murder and degree of law it effects. manslaughter 10 yrs, murder 1 25-30 yrs,
invol man 5 or 10 yrs depends on felony committed.

Since lifers have a lower recidivism rate I have heard several things about states looking at new options,one can hope it works out that way!

clinton is in Virginia...he has multiple life and 20 years...oh god...never did get that...never will...we don't haev that in belgium at all...but...he will get a lawyer, now in january , after he has been there for almost 17 years...and he thinks he will be free soon...life is 15 years in Virginia he keeps telling me, and he says he knows what he is talking about...lots of lifers get out, but no one talkes about it ...well I don't know....he says de longest sentence is the one that counts, so life...and that is 15 years...but he has no parole....but really...I don't get these sentences at all...he never killed anyone...so why life??? multiple life and 20 years???

My man is serving a life sentence here in Canada, but he was only 19 years old and his was 2nd degree murder!! His sentence is LIFE-13 so he is elgible for parole in 2013!!! Although it is not likely he will get it the first time but the average is 2- 5 years after there lifers if they have been model prisoners they might get it!!! With 2 years in a halfway house as well .

But Lifers in Canada usually serve :
life without possiblity of parole- 25 years straight
life - 25 with a faint hope clause tht after they serve 15 years they can apply for this clause to get there elgiblity date moved up depending on there record while there in
also for second degree murder you can get
life-10 - elgible for parole in 10 years
life-13- elgible for parole in 13 years
life-15 -elgible for parole in 15 years

But these only apply to second degree murder ( not planned or premeditated ) and usally age,criminal record all play a factor in the length of the life sentece they have to serve before they can get parole.

But lifers are on parole for the rest of there lives and they have no warrranty expiry date!!!

Also the only crime for life in canada is murder!

Hope this tidbit of info helps !!!

Please keep in mind that when someone is sentenced to life, they will only be eligable for parole, that doe snot mean they will get it. They can hold them for life

I think it depends alot on what the crime actually was, I mean if they killed someone then they will most likely not have a good outcome with parole, I know parole doesnt look at murderers too kindly, and in that case they also take the victims family's opinion into better consideration then the prisioner. A family member of mine was killed and I know i have written to parole every time the man who killed them was up for parole, and he has never been released.

Hello,

I have a few questions that i need to know, My husband was sentenced double life w/out in a nevada federal court, do the feds operate like the state? or will he die in prison? the feds wont even let me visit him and hes my husband, all because I was convicted of a forgery charge can they do that or do i have rights somewhere?

my sweety is doing life w/ parole in Calif.. he has been down for going on 32 years . he did come up and due to Davis he just said he** with it , But does come up again in 07.. maybe with luck he will see daylight before the decade is out
Terry

Hello,

I have a few questions that i need to know, My husband was sentenced double life w/out in a nevada federal court, do the feds operate like the state? or will he die in prison? the feds wont even let me visit him and hes my husband, all because I was convicted of a forgery charge can they do that or do i have rights somewhere?

no, feds are diffrent then the state. fed DO NOT give parole. :( i am sorry.

Feds are pretty harsh on visiting when one has somehig on their record :( i am sorry

My man is serving a life sentence here in Canada, but he was only 19 years old and his was 2nd degree murder!! His sentence is LIFE-13 so he is elgible for parole in 2013!!! Although it is not likely he will get it the first time but the average is 2- 5 years after there lifers if they have been model prisoners they might get it!!! With 2 years in a halfway house as well .

But Lifers in Canada usually serve :
life without possiblity of parole- 25 years straight
life - 25 with a faint hope clause tht after they serve 15 years they can apply for this clause to get there elgiblity date moved up depending on there record while there in
also for second degree murder you can get
life-10 - elgible for parole in 10 years
life-13- elgible for parole in 13 years
life-15 -elgible for parole in 15 years

But these only apply to second degree murder ( not planned or premeditated ) and usally age,criminal record all play a factor in the length of the life sentece they have to serve before they can get parole.

But lifers are on parole for the rest of there lives and they have no warrranty expiry date!!!

Also the only crime for life in canada is murder!

Hope this tidbit of info helps !!!


this is for Canada, am i correct? If this is the case, Canada sure is alot more reasonable then the states

well my man is doing 7 to life just went to board and gave him a date .but it has to go in front of the governer for hes date to be confirmed jason done 8 years.

she is asking about feds, and her man, has life with out parole. life with out does not get parole, espeically in feds

Lulu is correct, my man is doing 20 years, in the Fed, but there may be some hope, for visits. I cannot get, regular visits, because of my record, but they did, give me a "special" and if you have the cash, he can, get a lawyer, jailhouse isn't usually effective, your better off with a BOP lawyer, and he can work through the administrative remedy process. He has to file, and he has to be slick enough to get your denial, to him, in written form. This is because you, have no right to see him, although marriage may give you more standing, than I have because we are not married. He has a right, to see you, technically anyway, although in reality, the BOP can refuse it, for many reasons. Don't give up. It took us a long time, but i did get to see him, and I will, never give up. Ever.

LULU yes that is canadian laws. And we are so much more lient!! Most lifers that go to see the parole board here get out 5 years after they are eligible for parole !!

Alright I live in MO so I am not familiar with FL laws, although I guess I need to start getting there. So here is my question. 16 years old, sentenced to the DEATH PENALTY, sentence was overturned in August 03 to Life w/o...how long is this kid looking at? Does life w/o really mean his entire life w/o even a parole hearing? Can he take that to court and get yet another sentence?

In Nevada, Life Without means just that . A simple life sentence has to serve 20 years before coming up for parole. I understand they are rarely granted on the first time, and you have to wait a few years for another try.

Very interesting thread! Ok well my man has a date with the board of prison terms in 2020 and he has a 25 to life sentence. Hes been down for 7 yrs so far. I know the BPT is very difficult here in CA. Its funny how it all varies from state to state. I feel so bad for him cause I couldnt imagine sitting in the SHU for 20+ years and just hoping you will get out.

HELLO YASMEEN, WELL I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW. MY HUSBAND RECIEVED AN 11 TO LIFE WITH 4 YEARS CREDIT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT ALSO RECIEVED 4 YEARS ON TOP OF THAT. I DO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO SERVE THERE SHORTER SENTENCE FIRST. WELL HE HAS SERVED HIS SHORTER SENTENCE. HE'S BEEN DOWN SINCE 97 AFTER SERVING HIS FIRST TERM HE HAS AN MEPD (MINIMIUN ELIGIBLITY PAROLE DATE OF 2008). HE WENT IN AT 20 YRS
FIRST TIME IN PRISON AND NOT FOR MURDER. ONE GOOD THING IF YOUR IN CALIFORNIA I HEARD THE GOV. IS GRANTING PAROLE LIKE NEVER BEFORE. BUT I'M STILL NOT SURE WHAT 11 TO LIFE MEANS.

Ive been hearing about the gov paroleing people but how do they choose who they parole? I was told that my man would not likely get out even though he has 25 to life w/ parole. How does it work for him?

Here in Canada, a life sentence does not have an actual numbered out date. Most offenders (besides those classified as "dangerous offenders" i think) are elibigle at 15 years i think..

Here in Canada.. 95% of offenders are released. That is a fact. :)

WOW... sigh. Canada. That is pretty amazing.

Canada is amazing for alot of issues-health care, crime rate, etc. Watch farenhieght 911- it talks about some of the issues. I think Canada would be a nice place to live.

Yeah if Bush gets re-elected -- oops, I mean elected -- watch out Vancouver! Another Californian coming your way! :)

Totally agree with you Qwerty, as usual!!! :)

[QUOTE]My son has been sitting since l993 in Texas having gotten a life sentence. He sent me a prison form he had received that stated his first parole date is 2023 so that would be appoximately twenty yearsnbut they say no one gets parole the first time up. His lawyer told me at his trial that it would be at least thirty years. Does anyone know how I can find out if there is a link to the prison in Iowa Park,Texas. I am a new comer to operating a computerand live in Germany so I can´t hop on a bus to visit my son and would like to find out some info on this prison he is in:

My lifer got a 25 to Life sentence and has to do the 25 years before he is eligible for parole. That will be 39 more months!!

Im lost- My guy got locked up in 1997 and got 25 to life. His parole hearing is in 2020. But i was under the impression that then the parole board usually dosent let them go easily. Plus he has an indeterminate SHU sentence so he cant really show much reform...lol Does anyone have any ideas on this? Is it true he will probably die there?

opps , I guess i already posted on this one, sorry

My husband is in NY. His sentence is 25 years to life. His first parole hearing is in less than three years and it is very unlikely that he will be released as the first board. They are generally hit with two years at a time. New York is a very tough state on lifers. They usually are released at the third board provided they have had exemplary behavior.

i have a cousin who got life but he has served 19 yrs already and well i wonder what the new law on people serving life and will he be able to get paroled

10-life
20-life

these ranges are not life sentences.

Life sentences are life sentences. If the judge says you are sentenced to life that is a life sentence. If the judge says 10 years to life, that is not a life sentence. People with these ranges have a MUCH better chance of getting out than people who were sentenced to life do.

20 to life really IS a life sentence in my state...

Here in Cali almost NO "XX to life" inmates are ever granted parole. Judges here call it "a sentence of life -- with a minimum of XX years." That's because they know that it really means life in most cases.

The percentage of lifers granted parole is still dismally low, like 2 or 3 a year out of thousands eligible.

I hope that because of overcrowding and lawsuits, this will someday change. But two weeks ago, once again every lifer who came before the parole board was denied.

My guy has 29 to life -- I know we still have more hope than those who are LWOP and I do feel very grateful for that. It gives us soemthing to cling to. But we both also accept the reality that unless something radically changes, he probably won't come home.

20 to life really IS a life sentence in my state...

Here in Cali almost NO "XX to life" inmates are ever granted parole. Judges here call it "a sentence of life -- with a minimum of XX years." That's because they know that it really means life in most cases.

The percentage of lifers granted parole is still dismally low, like 2 or 3 a year out of thousands eligible.

I hope that because of overcrowding and lawsuits, this will someday change. But two weeks ago, once again every lifer who came before the parole board was denied.

My guy has 29 to life -- I know we still have more hope than those who are LWOP and I do feel very grateful for that. It gives us soemthing to cling to. But we both also accept the reality that unless something radically changes, he probably won't come home.
That stinks. That is an "unwritten policy" but that is not the sentence. Legally they CAN be paroled so it is not a life sentence. Maybe the original question is "if someone gets the word life in their sentence does that mean they will atomatically serve life?"

I interrepted the original posters question not to mean this.

In minnesota a life sentence means 30 years before you are elligable to go before the review committee. (PRT)

Hi

I have a good friend serving 7-life for kidnap with the intent to rob. He has been in since he was 17, and has served 16 years of his sentence. Can anyone tell me the average time served in California for this type of crime and sentence? I just read what was posted above and really hope that he has SOME chance of getting out :eek:

Thanks :thumbsup:

OK question:

a sentence of Life plus 40 years.........

does this mean the person is going to die in there or they might come out one day?

noodsta -- with 7 to life yes he has a good chance of getting out... WHEN he gets out would depend on if he's in the SHU with an indeterminate sentence for being in a gang (small chance of getting out unless/until he renounces the gang), or if he's gotten in trouble while inside.

But if he is none of the above, he should get out...

Mine is in for homicide, with murder cases they almost never parole.

OK question:

a sentence of Life plus 40 years.........

does this mean the person is going to die in there or they might come out one day?

Wouldn't life plus 40 mean that the sentence is supposed to be served consecutively and not concurrently? I don't know, but its a thought!

Wouldn't life plus 40 mean that the sentence is supposed to be served consecutively and not concurrently? I don't know, but its a thought!
Yes but does that mean he will actually be in for life or could he come out?

QWERTY, thanks for that - that sounds encouraging at least! It is easy to get a bit down about the possibilities with lifers (with possibility of parole), so reminders like that are so important! I am glad that at least he has SOME chance of getting out. My friend is not in a gang and as far as I know he hasnt gotten into any trouble since being in there, so he should be alright. Being in Cali though, it might take a while :blah: .

Does anyone know who (which type of crimes) tend to get granted parole in Cali?

10-life
20-life

these ranges are not life sentences.

Life sentences are life sentences. If the judge says you are sentenced to life that is a life sentence. If the judge says 10 years to life, that is not a life sentence.

I have all the paperwork from my fiance's sentencing (First Degree Murder). The judge's words were as follows: "You are hereby remanded to the Kansas Department of Corrections for the term of life in prison. You will serve 15 years minimum, before being considered eligible for parole."

He has a chance, yes, but not a "guarantee". Although his sentence (and those similar to it) is commonly referred to as "15 to life", the State of Kansas officially classifies it to be one of LIFE. Anytime I receive official paperwork from the KDOC, on the line which specifies his sentence, it always reads "LIFE".

Considering the fact that Kansas has been handing out ten-year flops for violent crimes in the last few years (and that's for prisoners with much better disciplinary records than my guy :eek: )....LIFE is exactly what he may serve.

Just wanted to chime in ;)

Well, I know that my husband was given 15-Life and is coming up on 22 years this August. He was just denied at board again for 2 years. So, right now....we are looking at upwards of 25 IF he gets a date next time at board. California sucks when it comes to lifers!!!

In California,

We are lucky to have lifers supporters, groups and ex-lifers that are helping lifers in Prison. Arnold has released more lifers this year. In California we are fighting a real tough battle. Who said life is easy, but we have to fight for the men we love.
I'm fighting for my husband to taste freedom, live life, and to smile for being happy.

I have all the paperwork from my fiance's sentencing (First Degree Murder). The judge's words were as follows: "You are hereby remanded to the Kansas Department of Corrections for the term of life in prison. You will serve 15 years minimum, before being considered eligible for parole."

He has a chance, yes, but not a "guarantee". Although his sentence (and those similar to it) is commonly referred to as "15 to life", the State of Kansas officially classifies it to be one of LIFE. Anytime I receive official paperwork from the KDOC, on the line which specifies his sentence, it always reads "LIFE".

Considering the fact that Kansas has been handing out ten-year flops for violent crimes in the last few years (and that's for prisoners with much better disciplinary records than my guy :eek: )....LIFE is exactly what he may serve.

Just wanted to chime in ;)Wow that is crazy Irish. I would think that would be a 15 to life sentence. I guess they want to emphasize the maximum :rolleyes: as if we didn't know what it was!:mad: Ugh!

It is all a gamble for us all...we never know what might or could happen. So I will just keep on like I have been one day at a time. ;)

In the 1970's, my husband got "15 to Life" at the age of 16 (tried as adult)...he was released 10 1/2 years later. This was in Ohio. His crime was second degree murder.
Raina

Raina....did the 10.5 served include "good time"? My guy is in seg, and has not accumulated good time for over 3 years now. We're fairly sure he will do at least the 15, then a 2, 3, or 5-year setoff...and ten-year setoffs are becoming more common for his crime (First Degree murder).

Hi Raina

That is very interesting that he got out in 10.5. My friend is in California State Prison Solano and has served 17 years ( he was sentenced 7-life - as an adult when he was 17) for kidnap with the intent to rob, (no one was injured). Do you mind if I ask how he managed to get out in 10.5 while in for 2nd degree murder?
Linda

Wow... well I can throw in my 2 cents and say the 70s and 80s were very different times from now -- most states didn't have these mandatory minimums and tough parole boards like now. California in particular seems to hate paroling anyone with "life" on the end of their sentence.

Well, 10.5 years has got to be the shortest life sentence I have ever seen posted on here. My man was sentenced to DR, commuted to 25-life w/the possibility of parole. He has currently served 27 years, just made parole last year and is completing a work release stipulation. This is in Oklahoma.

My friend was put in prison in the 80s, but it hasnt made a lot of difference, querty! Thems the breaks I guess. He is expecting not to be out for a long time yet with the way that the hearings are going in Cali. :rolleyes:

My husband just got sentenced to malice murder in Georgia. His lawyer told him if he plead guilty he would probably get out in 7-10 years.When the judge said it would be 14 years before he was eligible for parole,I asked his lawyer why he told him 7-10 years? He said the prisons are so overcrowded they are letting more people out on parole.Please telll me this is true.