I have been on the phone with my sons counselor at DVI and also with his attorney in Santa Clara County. My son spent WAY longer in SC county than he should have after he was sentenced and was only finally transfered to the state when I began to make a lot of calls to find out why he had not been moved. Now he has been at DVI for 3 months and according to my calculations he shoudl have been released on November 15!!!! I finally got his counselor at DVI on the phone and she said Santa Clara County had never sent all the court papers they need to calculate his release date. She did not know the length of his sentence or anything else because those papers had not come. She said the papers usually take 2 weeks to get to DVI but now and then it takes longer and they have been calling SC county every 2 weeks to tell them the papers have not arrived yet!!!! OMG, he should have been RELEASED by now but his counselor does not have any info on that. SHe says she will call and see if she can find out anything. I called his attorney too....nobody there....(away for the Thanksgiving break maybe???????) I left a message that the papers had not arrived. What else can I do???? :angry:

Bug the hell out of everyone you can think of - how terrible! Of course, you're not going to get anyone on the weekend.

But Monday you can call the attorney, the warden, the judge....

Nancbee4... if you don't mind me asking, what are his credits and sentence? I would have that information on hand and call Sacramento on Monday. There is no reason with the prison overcrowding that we have an inmate inside, when he should have been released!!!!!!!

I have been on the phone with my sons counselor at DVI and also with his attorney in Santa Clara County. My son spent WAY longer in SC county than he should have after he was sentenced and was only finally transfered to the state when I began to make a lot of calls to find out why he had not been moved. Now he has been at DVI for 3 months and according to my calculations he shoudl have been released on November 15!!!! I finally got his counselor at DVI on the phone and she said Santa Clara County had never sent all the court papers they need to calculate his release date. She did not know the length of his sentence or anything else because those papers had not come. She said the papers usually take 2 weeks to get to DVI but now and then it takes longer and they have been calling SC county every 2 weeks to tell them the papers have not arrived yet!!!! OMG, he should have been RELEASED by now but his counselor does not have any info on that. SHe says she will call and see if she can find out anything. I called his attorney too....nobody there....(away for the Thanksgiving break maybe???????) I left a message that the papers had not arrived. What else can I do???? :angry:

His time is UP now. There is NO reason he should still be there he should have been able to spend Thanksgiving with us. I thought he got straight time at the county and his counselor at the state said, no, he got 1/3 time so he shoudl be out NOW! She has no clue what his sentence is because no papers have been sent to her that would tell her. I know he got 8 months because I was there and I did talk to the attorney when he was sentenced. I know he also was going to get 1/2 time with the state. He spent 3 months in county and then went to the state and his time started on June 13.....you figure that out. He shoudl be OUT. He has never seen the counselor. He did fill out a request to see her and is still waiting. When I talked to her 2 days ago she said he has NO release date at this time. I have contacted Sacramento. The county that sentenced him is not the county I am in. I might be able to go there but I don't have his papers and don't remember the judges name right now. I have contacted his attorney too but they all seem to have gone off for Thanksgiving. I have witten to the Omnbudsman for DVI and got email back saying he is out of the office from November 14 through the 18 and on vacation from the 20th to the 22nd. That means he will not be back to work until the 27th. I am working on it but I am getting nowhere. Steve is not allowed visits from me because they only got my application 5 weeks ago and I have NOT been approved yet. Steve has no phone privlidges either because they don't have phones for reception center imates at all at DVI. :angry:

By definition , a felony requires a sentence of at least a year and one day. So i am confused how he only got sentenced to 8 months and sent to prison. A two year consecutive sentence is served at 1/3 the mid term, which results in 8 months, but that would be consecutive to a two year term, meaning 32 months in total. His counselor is correct that until the Records Analyst get the certified abstract of judgement from the court, thay can not calculate a release date.

He got 8 months. I know people who have gotten 8 and 10 months all the time. This is not his first time in state prison. People go back for all kinds of violations. I did not state what the reason was I just said he got 8 months and I know that is the time.

Thanks for telling me WHAT papers it is he needs though. Now at least I know he needs the "certified abstract of judgement" instead of just some papers. I can't do much about late on Saturday night but even on Saturday I sent of email to various state departments.

Here is what another woman wrote about her relatives time in prison...he did not get a year either...:
"my husband is in dvi reception center, but he was paroled out and is now back in, so i have to go through the whole visitation form thing again. do they get congigal visits there, he has to be there for 2 months or less, waiting to see his counsoler then transfered to a prison for the other 8 months. and it so damn hard to get a appointment expecially if you work from 5 am to 1pm, so im going keep trying, never giving up faith in God, only he knows what hes doing!"
According to what she is say her husband got about 10 months. As I said before, my son was in Soledad and had filled out request forms back after the first of the year to have this matter handled SOONER. This was an old matter that should have been handled a long time ago and then he would have been serving his time concurrently with his other sentence. Santa Clara County dragged their feet and did nothing about it even though I made personal visits to their DA's office with written requests, etc. months before his release date. In the end they never came to pick him up until his release was imminent. It is possible that they calculated his time differently than you think in his case because of his prior incarcerations. What I am saying now is that his counselor at DVI has told me personally that the papers have never come and just about everyone elses papers arrive in 2 weeks. Someting is wrong and I am doing all I can to deal with it. A LOT is wrong with the prison system. My son is not the only forgotten inmate.

My husband also got 8 months, but they doubled it and added a year for strike prior. He got 5 months once on a violation too. So, I know they can get less than a year and go to prison. I know that most cases they are supposed to do their time in county if it is less than a year left to do, but I thought they changed that and if they were convicted to a state facility, no matter how much time they had left (even if they did all of their time in county before the conviction) they had to be released from a state facility?

By definition , a felony requires a sentence of at least a year and one day. So i am confused how he only got sentenced to 8 months and sent to prison. A two year consecutive sentence is served at 1/3 the mid term, which results in 8 months, but that would be consecutive to a two year term, meaning 32 months in total. His counselor is correct that until the Records Analyst get the certified abstract of judgement from the court, thay can not calculate a release date.

Nancbee4, I understand your frustration, trust me I would be frustrated too, but people here are just trying to help you, there is no reason to get upset at us.

Here is what another woman wrote about her relatives time in prison...he did not get a year either...:
"my husband is in dvi reception center, but he was paroled out and is now back in, so i have to go through the whole visitation form thing again. do they get congigal visits there, he has to be there for 2 months or less, waiting to see his counsoler then transfered to a prison for the other 8 months. and it so damn hard to get a appointment expecially if you work from 5 am to 1pm, so im going keep trying, never giving up faith in God, only he knows what hes doing!"
According to what she is say her husband got about 10 months. As I said before, my son was in Soledad and had filled out request forms back after the first of the year to have this matter handled SOONER. This was an old matter that should have been handled a long time ago and then he would have been serving his time concurrently with his other sentence. Santa Clara County dragged their feet and did nothing about it even though I made personal visits to their DA's office with written requests, etc. months before his release date. In the end they never came to pick him up until his release was imminent. It is possible that they calculated his time differently than you think in his case because of his prior incarcerations. What I am saying now is that his counselor at DVI has told me personally that the papers have never come and just about everyone elses papers arrive in 2 weeks. Someting is wrong and I am doing all I can to deal with it. A LOT is wrong with the prison system. My son is not the only forgotten inmate.

I am not upset with anyone. I do feel that one person here does not believe that my son got only 8 months. I have been told by the attorney he did get 8 months and my son says the same. I was trying to get that person to understand it is 8 months instead of getting more questions about his credits or whatever. I am not upset with the PTO posts though but I AM upset with the prison system. They also forgot about his when he was back at the county and had him listed as having BAIL when I knew he was waiting for the bus to state prison. They never moved him out of the county until I contacted the courts and his attorney told me his papers must have been misplaced. Now, it is happing AGAIN!! He is sitting in DVI and I think his time is UP. It does make me feel a little put down when somebody else on here does not believe I know what i am talking about at all but I am not at all mad. I am frustrated with the prison system and missing my son too!!!!!! :(

I think this would be a good case to take to the press, the prison system is so overcrowded they cannot keep track of their inmates. I hope and pray that you get him home before Thanksgiving!

I am not upset with anyone. I do feel that one person here does not believe that my son got only 8 months. I have been told by the attorney he did get 8 months and my son says the same. I was trying to get that person to understand it is 8 months instead of getting more questions about his credits or whatever. I am not upset with the PTO posts though but I AM upset with the prison system. They also forgot about his when he was back at the county and had him listed as having BAIL when I knew he was waiting for the bus to state prison. They never moved him out of the county until I contacted the courts and his attorney told me his papers must have been misplaced. Now, it is happing AGAIN!! He is sitting in DVI and I think his time is UP. It does make me feel a little put down when somebody else on here does not believe I know what i am talking about at all but I am not at all mad. I am frustrated with the prison system and missing my son too!!!!!! :(

I was able to reach my son's attorney early this morning. Thank God he was not away on vacation yet. He looked up the court records and confirmed that my son only got 8 months. He also thinks he got "half time" at the county as well as at the state. I told him my son should have been out for a while if this is true because they began counting him time on June 20. The attorney became vague after that as he did not want to admit this could be true but he did ask for the phone number at DVI and the extension for the counselor and said papers could be FAXED if necessary. He went on to tell me he was very busy in court all day today but would TRY to go to the clerks office and look into this matter this afternoon. I really wanted to hear that he was just going to drop everything else and do this RIGHT NOW but at least I did talk to him and he did say he would look into it. :confused:

Glad to hear someone is doing something. You might want to ask for the papers to be sent to you too. Also, county time is 1/3rd. But you are right, if he got 8 months, he should have been out by now!!

I was able to reach my son's attorney early this morning. Thank God he was not away on vacation yet. He looked up the court records and confirmed that my son only got 8 months. He also thinks he got "half time" at the county as well as at the state. I told him my son should have been out for a while if this is true because they began counting him time on June 20. The attorney became vague after that as he did not want to admit this could be true but he did ask for the phone number at DVI and the extension for the counselor and said papers could be FAXED if necessary. He went on to tell me he was very busy in court all day today but would TRY to go to the clerks office and look into this matter this afternoon. I really wanted to hear that he was just going to drop everything else and do this RIGHT NOW but at least I did talk to him and he did say he would look into it. :confused:

Hope you hear something by tomorrow!!!!

Now it is another day. My son is still not released. Today I called the CDCR department of Public Affairs in Sacramento. They said they don't handle this problem and transfered me to the DCD Parole Board, they said this was a bit out of their jurisdiction and transfered me to the Decison Processing Unit, they said it was not really what they do that and they transfered me to the department of the Central Office Calendar where I got voice mail. I called the attorney and got voicemal. He never called me back yesterday or after I left a new message today. I have called the counselor at the prison and gotten voice mail twice now. I called the parole board in the county he is supposed to be paroled too and they say he is NOT on their list as being paroled to them and he is back in another county to parole even tought he filled out papers and was approved to go to the first county months ago. This is a nigthmare....maybe he is better off sitting in prison that having to deal with no parole plans? Also the lady at the parole office said if the counselor at the prison said she was working on it then my problem was "90% taken care of and you need to just let her do her job." OMG........what about the other 10%....the part where my son is STILL IN PRISON WHEN HIS TIME IS UP??? I also contacted a national organization at FAMM.org and sent them email. Can all this be really happening? Don't wake me up until it is over.

Your son is only fortunate to have you because what if this was an inmate that had no one on the outside??? They would be there the rest of their life! Sorry you are having to deal with this though and I hope it gets squared away very soon!

I do think a lot about the other nameless inmates who might be dealing with a situation like that. There are 176,000 inmates in this state.....minus whoever was sent off to Tennessee.....and I can't believe my son is the ONLY one the state seems to have forgotten. Who is watching out for the others? Remember, if you live in this state then YOUR tax dollars are paying for them to stay in prison AND you loved one might be crammed in a bunk in the gym because my son is staying beyond his time. Hello CDCR officials....are you listening???

OK, I finally got through to his counselor at DVI and she said "I got all your messages (well thanks for calling me back) and hear what you said and I don't have his file but I have people working on it". I told her that his release date is PASSED and his TIME IS UP but she told me she does not know that because she does not have his file but again mentioned that people were working on it. OK...I sort of have a joke for all of you know......So how many CDC officers does it take to get a file???? Sorry but it's not a very good joke because I have no good punch line. :(

I am so sorry to hear all of this, and I really do hope that they fix this mess. I think you have been doing all that can be done. I would do the same thing; call everyone that I can think of all day long until this is over. Keep on calling them and dont give up. Unfortunatly, your son is just a number to them and that is when you have to stay on them until things are fixed. I hope this nightmare will be over real soon and your son is very lucky to have you!

Well, my son's attorney finally called me back. He said he found the form that they need and is sending me a copy and also sending the prison a copy. I have no idea how much time that is going to take to get there and the be evaluated. However, I also talked to Steve's counselor. I got through on the phone and asked what they do about extra days and she says they will be subtracted from his parole days. SO I guess he is on parole now.......oh well except for the fact he is still IN PRISON. :(
As least I know the papers are going where they are supposed to go and someday he will get out. I would go and visit him and tell him all this but I have not been approved to visit yet. He does not get my letters for nearly 2 weeks and I hope they tell him someting more about all this before that. He writes that he can't understand why he has not release date and wants to know what is going on. He did request to see his counselor and he has not been seen yet.

Hang in there!! I would call his counselor again tomorrow too. They are going to get so tired of hearing from you that they will do something, hopefully their job! The joke itself was the punchline!!

OK, I finally got through to his counselor at DVI and she said "I got all your messages (well thanks for calling me back) and hear what you said and I don't have his file but I have people working on it". I told her that his release date is PASSED and his TIME IS UP but she told me she does not know that because she does not have his file but again mentioned that people were working on it. OK...I sort of have a joke for all of you know......So how many CDC officers does it take to get a file???? Sorry but it's not a very good joke because I have no good punch line. :(

Calling the counselor will get you nowhere. The counselor does not calculate the release date and can not expedite the process. You need to call the C&PR (Classification and Parole Representative) who is in charge of both the counselors and the Records staff. The Records analyst must have the certified abstract of Judgement from the court to calculate the release date. The analyst sends the date to the counselor on what is called a "Facesheet" and the counselor gives the paperwork (and release date) to the inmate. The C&PR can expedite the Racords analyst processing. In the Reception Center, the counselor is towards the end of the reception processing. Everything has to already be compiled and in the file before the counselor gets the file and sees the inmate.If the inmate is overdue for release, he will be given In re Sosa credits, which will be deducted from the end of his parole.
In fact , it is the C&PR who signs the release papers that allows the inmate to to processed through R&R (Receiving and Release).

Interesting, thanks for the explaination. I am afraid to call any more people now. My son IS still stuck at DVI because the "Certified Abstract of Judgment" never got there. That part is correct but now his attorney says that there is some question about whether my son might have his parole revoked. It is complicated but he was arrested on TWO different cases within days of each other in two different counties. First he was tried and served time in state prison and when it was time for his parole he was picked up by the second county and tried and now has served that sentence too. However, now his attorney says the first county MIGHT revoke his parole on the first sentence and make him serve more time. It is a Merry Go Round and apparently it does not stop so you can get off. DVI does not know this yet, my son does not know this yet. He still thinks he is coming home any day now. This came up when the attorney went back in the second county and reviewed the file looking for the missing paper. Will this ever end? :(

I am so sorry! If he was picked up within days of the first arrest, I don't see how they can revoke his parole on the first charge. He hadn't been sentenced yet on the first one when he got picked up on the second. Get what I mean? So, he hasn't even had a chance to be on parole to have it revoked. I would do what JLS advises and see what can be done. I would also call his parole office as they are the ones who can keep him on a parole hold if they are going to send him back for violating his first parole.

Interesting, thanks for the explaination. I am afraid to call any more people now. My son IS still stuck at DVI because the "Certified Abstract of Judgment" never got there. That part is correct but now his attorney says that there is some question about whether my son might have his parole revoked. It is complicated but he was arrested on TWO different cases within days of each other in two different counties. First he was tried and served time in state prison and when it was time for his parole he was picked up by the second county and tried and now has served that sentence too. However, now his attorney says the first county MIGHT revoke his parole on the first sentence and make him serve more time. It is a Merry Go Round and apparently it does not stop so you can get off. DVI does not know this yet, my son does not know this yet. He still thinks he is coming home any day now. This came up when the attorney went back in the second county and reviewed the file looking for the missing paper. Will this ever end? :(

I am afraid to make any more calls. I feel that because I did make so many calls I might have actually alerted somebody about the two different cases and caused this new complication. I am going to wait. They are all so overloaded and confused with their paperwork they were going to release him and now, maybe because of me, they are looking into the fact he would be on parole in TWO counties at the same time and one of the counties, Alameda, is rethinking it. I don't know what to do. I have also read that inmates don't necessarily go back to court. They have some kind of "inside" hearing with no court or attorneys and can just be sentenced for parole violations. This is someting our current Gov. wants to change but he is fighting the prison guards union and it's a tough fight. I am feeling really scared and sad now. I liked it better when I just thought they had forgotten to release him. Eveybody who wrote with advice and support, THANKS!!! Have a nice Thanksgiving. :o

Nanc... hang in there, just know that what you are doing and have done was to get him released! If he has done his time, he should not be in there! As for a hearing, you have the right to be there and I know they have to have the hearing within so many days. That is a new law that has just passed. So, maybe you don't want to make any more phone calls, but I would keep in touch with his lawyer at least to find out about this. He will have a lawyer present at a parole violation hearing, just not his lawyer. It will look better if you can be there for that. Again though, I know they only have so many days to do the hearing, and since he was never released on parole, he should not have a violation and or he should have time served on a violation. That is my thinking. Hang in there though. Hope you had a good day today. I pray he is home for Christmas!!

Thanks! I got his "Certified Abstract of Judgement" in the mail today. He got 16 months on one case in one county and 8 months on the second case in the second county for a total time of 2 years. He has served it all as they wanted but now they are trying to decide if the second case will cause parole to be revoked on the first case....crazy...he has been incarcerated all this time and was never out since his first case. I just hope it is all figured out by Christmas because his time was up already and he should be OUT NOW!!!! What a nightmare. :o

Wow... this is something. If he was never released from the first one you would think they couldn't do a parole violation on it. I would see about talking to Gryphon and seeing if he can help you with this. JLS seems to know alot about this information too. I know they only have so much time to give him a parole violation, and I thought it was like 48 hours or something like that. Look at some of the other threads in here about parole violations, that is where I saw it.

Thanks! I got his "Certified Abstract of Judgement" in the mail today. He got 16 months on one case in one county and 8 months on the second case in the second county for a total time of 2 years. He has served it all as they wanted but now they are trying to decide if the second case will cause parole to be revoked on the first case....crazy...he has been incarcerated all this time and was never out since his first case. I just hope it is all figured out by Christmas because his time was up already and he should be OUT NOW!!!! What a nightmare. :o

OK thanks. I just got the Abstract yesterday so I have no idea when it will get to the right department and the right person at DVI. I think my sons attorney sent it too. Usually it comes for the clerks office. I also got a letter from my son today that he wrote on November 20. He writes that he thinks there is a problem with his release and nobody is doing anything about it. He says he talked to some other guys in there and they said it is common to have paperwork problems at DVI and they have heard of other inmates staying beyond their time there. Great! I guess they don't need those beds. My son has not gotten any of my letters explaining what is going on and how I have been making calls. He says the Thanksgivng cards I sent to him to mail to his children did not get to him until November 20. I mailed them November 6. Mail has slowed down. His letters still take about 2 or 3 days to reach me. I spent half an hour on the phone yesterday trying to get an appointment to visit but when I finally got through they said I was still not approved. I sent the application in at the beginning of October. :(

Well, I know the papers were mailed to DVI. I am waiting for them to figure it all out. They probably got them yesterday. In the meantime my son has not received my letters telling him what is going on and is writing me that he thinks something is wrong. He is becoming angry and says he is filing complaints against the counselor for not seeing him and not responding to his requests for information. He is upset that over 2 months have gone by and I have not been approved to visit. He thinks they lost my application and says he is going to "602" the visiting room supervisor. It is so frustrating not to be able to fill him in on what is going on. Mail has slowed down and it takes over 2, maybe 3, weeks for him to receive anything. Why can't the counselor just sent him a note explaining they are working on things? Why drive him crazy?

Hang in there. There is no reason for the mail to take that long. Not to mention, you should have been approved a long time ago! By the time you get approved, he will be out. (Hopefully that is sooner than later).

I was hoping with you writing, there was going to be some good news, but it sounds like same thing is still going on.

I am so sorry that you are having to go through all of this. I pray that he is home with you for Christmas.
You are a great mom and he is lucky to have you.

God bless,

Cecelia

Today is December 4th. My son still has NO release date and on top of that he has not written in days. I am worried he went crazy in there and is in AG SEG or someting. I never dreamed he would not be out at Christmas, now I am afraid. His second set of missing paperwork should have reached DVI the day after Thanksgiving. This is really insanity.

Nanc - I'd call the warden. I'd find out how to get to their secretary and I'd leave a very polite message, every day. And I'd find a fax. Or two. And every day send the same form letter with 1st request, 2nd request... etc. Not more then daily - but I would be papering and voice messaging 1/3 of Sacramento.

Good luck

Thanks, I did call many places in Sacramento already. I got a major run around and one response from the Ombudsman for the area. I am going to try making calls after work today. Yesterday was Monday and I thought I would probably finally hear someting from my son but nothing came. This is taking a toll on me now, I feel sick all the time. No phone calls, no visits, no release. :(

Hang in there Nancbee! We are all rooting for you :-)

I called the counselor at DVI today. She told me that the papers the attorney sent (THE SECOND SET OF PAPERS) were NOT acceptable at DVI because the attorney sent them himself and the papers MUST come straight from the court clerks office. She told me they talked to the attorney yesterday and now they have the papers. I wonder if they got faxed??? I just don't know. Anyway, she said it will take 10 days to 2 weeks before they are done going over them. I will have to wait. At least I was told the papers ARE THERE now. I asked her if she could PLEASE tell my son what was going on and let him know they had the papers. She said she had nothing to tell my son until they were finished looking at the papers. Geezzzz...can't they just tell him..."we are working on it!".....no I guess they can't. I am telling him but my letters take at least 2 weeks now. :( :( :( :( :(

Nanc, I am so frustrated for you. It's like talking to a robot without a heart. She could have easily gotten a message to him. My prayers are with you and your son. Hang in there. This too shall pass and one of these days he will be home with you and this all behind you.

God bless you both,

Cecelia

Nancbee... Don't give in now! You are close now! You know it is being worked on and I know you have heard that before, but at least you have moved a step forward. Hang in there, you know we are here for you!

Thanks for the words of encouragement. Once again I did not hear a word from my son. I am sure he has gotten the letters I wrote explaining what is going on with his situation. I wrote several over several days. He must be so depressed not to write at all. At least in the last letter he did write he said he got a new cell mate and he got along with him really well. He even wants me to write to this new guy and I will. Sometimes it is hard to go to sleep at night thinking about all the inmates that don't get visits or mail. I am writing to 3 guys he met in the last year now. They all seem like pretty decent guys they just did some stupid stuff. I wonder what my mailman thinks......lol.:o

I GOT APPROVED TO VISIT.....WHOO HOOOOO........!!!!!! It took over 2 months.:) :)

WONDERFUL.... I am so happy for you and your son. It will make a world of difference when you can actually talk to him. Things may get rolling now. Can you see him this weekend? Good luck and you will be in my prayers. Let us know how it goes.

God bless,

Cecelia

Thanks!! I visited him today. Even though it was only 45 minutes behind glass he could not stop smiling. I know he will be OK now. Nobody ever told him I was approved to visit so he was SHOCKED that I suddenly showed up. They should have told him but they didn't and I found out because I keep trying to schedule appointments but they come back and say I am not approved. You learn to work around their rules sometimes. It was great to see him after over 3 months but I walked out with another mom who said it had been over 6 months since she saw her son so there is always somebody else who has it a bit tougher than you do. I am so happy today!! Well....sort of. My son is still in prison so I am as happy as I can be.

Congratulations...I am so happy that you got to see him. At least now he knows whats going on and you are able to sleep better. It is a great feeling being approved especially after 2 LONG months. I hope that everything starts to work out for you and your son and God willing he will be out soon.:D

He JUST GOT RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!
He called from some bus station in Stockton. They just suddenly got him gave him a black jogging suit to put on drove him all the way to the bus station in Stockton and told him to buy tickets to where ever he wanted to go. He called me but it is so far and it's so late now he is going to take a bus part way and I am going to get him. They never even looked for the dress out clothes I sent for him. He NEVER saw the counselor or anyone else while he was there. The just handed him some papers and said to get going. I can't wait to see him. I am off in the middle of the night to go and get him. :) :) :) :) :)

I am so happy for you!!!! I am glad that all of your hard work and stressing helped him to get out sooner and before Christmas. Best Wishes to you and your son.

WONDERFUL !

I am so very, very happy for you. I cannot believe what they put you through.. God is good.
Have a joyful Christmas.

God bless,

Cecelia