My fiance just called me from CVSP and he, as well as the rest of the inmates in his dorm were given packets asking them which state they would like to be moved to. he was told, and he wanted me to check, that due to overcrowding, they are moving people out of state. Is this even possible?? i didnt think they could move STATE inmates out of CA. has anyone else heard of this at any other prisons? i have heard a rumor of them using government buildings to house some inmates, but this seems a little crazy. any information one way or the other would really help!

What level is your fiance? Does he have a long time left? I wonder what their criteria is for who gets transferred & who doesn't. I haven't heard anything about anyone at SVSP being moved. Has anyone else?
CAn't wait for this to be done with!:cool:

hes level 2. he was just moved there friday from reception and is supposed to be released 10-10-2007. i have no idea what the deal is, just wondering if anyone else had heard something similar....
What level is your fiance? Does he have a long time left? I wonder what their criteria is for who gets transferred & who doesn't. I haven't heard anything about anyone at SVSP being moved. Has anyone else?
CAn't wait for this to be done with!:cool:

There has been some talk of this idea in the most recent legislative session, but specific to a) non-US citizens and b) voluntary transfers. I have not seen or heard anything about wide-scale transfers, so I would assume this is another prison rumor. Our guys hear all kinds of untrue things.

The proprosals that have been talked about (none have been enacted) have to do with transferring people who aren't US citizens to other states to reduce overcrowding in CA. Also, it's been suggested that CDCR should allow inmates to be transferred to other states at their request--like if your family is in another state.

thank you! this sounds more probable than a wide scale transfer of inmates, and i suspected it was something like this, but my fiance asked me to check into it, so i thought id ask around here and see if anyone heard anything. thanks again!
There has been some talk of this idea in the most recent legislative session, but specific to a) non-US citizens and b) voluntary transfers. I have not seen or heard anything about wide-scale transfers, so I would assume this is another prison rumor. Our guys hear all kinds of untrue things.

The proprosals that have been talked about (none have been enacted) have to do with transferring people who aren't US citizens to other states to reduce overcrowding in CA. Also, it's been suggested that CDCR should allow inmates to be transferred to other states at their request--like if your family is in another state.

No problem! If you look at any recent articles about the special legislative session that just ended, or the governer's ideas about reducing overcrowding, this was always mentioned. It's funny how twisted some of this type of information gets as it goes from one guy to another!

its like that game telephone we played as kids.....you start off with one thing and end with something completely different....

I was just reading the SVSP page & they're saying that the inmates on "B" yard are going to be moved to Folsom. :confused:

Exactly!!!

its like that game telephone we played as kids.....you start off with one thing and end with something completely different....

My husband is at fire camp and they were all given the "surveys" about being moved out of state. I guess these surveys asked them about moving out of state and which state they would be willing to be moved to. It was optional for them to fill out and many inmates chose not to complete them.

this is exactly what my fiance said. he said he chose montana.....i dont know why or what the deal is but i told him he doesnt have to move. hopefully him completing it isnt him volunteering in some way. hopefully he calls soon and i can clear this all up somehow. or should i call his counselor??
My husband is at fire camp and they were all given the "surveys" about being moved out of state. I guess these surveys asked them about moving out of state and which state they would be willing to be moved to. It was optional for them to fill out and many inmates chose not to complete them.

Good Morning,
I posted in Ironwood/chuckys house about this topic; but i checked the link of the lastest news on this interstate compact trade thing that they proposing and it finally works. here it is.. Im not sure if this is a fersher fersher thing, but you can check it out what gvnmnt wants to impliment..
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...cal&id=4347656

on that note, I personally think its a bunch of shiznets.... I say re-evaluate the 3 strikes law, re-evaluate these terms that they give them; especially to those who got more time then needed; and just re-evaluate how things are run.. Thats just my personal opinion...
Hope everyone is having a great day!




My husband is at fire camp and they were all given the "surveys" about being moved out of state. I guess these surveys asked them about moving out of state and which state they would be willing to be moved to. It was optional for them to fill out and many inmates chose not to complete them.

that link was disturbing to say the least!! the fact that they are considering changing the law so they can move inmates out of state without their permission is horrible! that will limit their contact with friends and loved ones by preventing visits, and i dont even want to think about what a collect call from another state would cost! for osme people that contact is the only thing that gets them through this. it seems like the whole sytem is out of control, and its hard to believe their "solution" is building more prisons or shipping our prisoners to other states. why not take care of the ones we have, reduce sentences for parole violators and minor drug offenses and give people a second chance instead of throwing away the key.....okay im off my soap box now....

my husband got the same survey. and from our understanding, its just a survey, it says this does not mean you will be moved, its just a survey to see how many will move voluntary. My husband is gonna fill it out as well , we aiming towards the few southern states, I'm from florida, I would love to move back

hmm yeah my fiance said he doesnt want to parole in CA, hed like a fresh start so if he is moved, would they hypothetically get paroled in that new state? or would he have to come back to CA? i am stuck in cali until my lease is up in may but i would go where ever he is, i would rather they not move him halfway across the country though. and hopefully since he only has 13 months to go they wouldnt waste their time transferring him.

Like Wifey4lifey said...it was just a survey. It doesn't mean that they're going to move them.

Hello everyone,
I hear everyone "generalizing" basically reiterate everything all over. Im just curious if inmates do the survey and "BY" choice they want to move, would they move them or is the gvnmnt killing 100 trees just to have someone write on paper?? Or if you choice not to go, is there a chance that you will leave?? What is the bottom line here? Ive been searching the net basically all afternoon "off and on" and i cant find anything. If anyone has more information other then whats already posted, can you update us! Thanks.... im just really curious whats the haps with this volunteer interstate compact issues...




Like Wifey4lifey said...it was just a survey. It doesn't mean that they're going to move them.

I don't think any of us know anything other than what we're posting here. Since this just started, much of the information is being passed on from phone calls with loved ones on the inside, and they don't know much more than we do. I'm sure as time passes we'll all get some more specifics.

Here is some more info from a TiPS (Taxpayer's for Improving Public Safety) update that came up yesterday--I take this as a good sign because it means information about these survey's are spreading, which should mean more definitive information is on the way. I don't think anyone should get nervous or panic yet...something like widespread inmate transfers out-of-state is not going to happen overnight or without us hearing more information about it. We're going to have to be patient and keep working for more detailed information.

"VOLUNTARY" TRANSFER DOCUMENTS

"Sign ze papers please...." With the failure of his legislation to accomplish these transfers, and in his latest ploy to ignore separation of powers protections, Governor Schwarzenegger has ordered CDCR to distribute and collect from inmates their preference on which state(s) they would like to be transferred to in the near future..

The "voluntary" participation in this data collection is in some cases being coerced under threat of a 115 write-up for anyone who does not comply. Be it extortion or stupidity, any staff who threatens an inmate with a 115 for not participating in this "voluntary" process should be written up.

Furthermore, what the Governor is attempting to do requires legislation, which is why he sought to have the legislation passed. Absent the legislation to authorize the CDCR to transfer these inmates under these circumstances, the Governor is acting without authority.

One of the worst parts of the Governor's plan is the group of inmate he seeks to transfer also happen to be the ones who are closest to being released. That means just in time to deliver them and get them settled in, they have to come back home. Additionally, the already backlogged Board of Parole Hearings would need to travel to where the inmate is to hold the hearings. Image the eager BPH members who will be lining up to go hold BPH hearings in Hawaii!

TiPS is presently looking into whether or not we can seek an injunction to stop the Governor, but only TiPS members would be protected, in court. More to come on this so stay tuned.



Hello everyone,
I hear everyone "generalizing" basically reiterate everything all over. Im just curious if inmates do the survey and "BY" choice they want to move, would they move them or is the gvnmnt killing 100 trees just to have someone write on paper?? Or if you choice not to go, is there a chance that you will leave?? What is the bottom line here? Ive been searching the net basically all afternoon "off and on" and i cant find anything. If anyone has more information other then whats already posted, can you update us! Thanks.... im just really curious whats the haps with this volunteer interstate compact issues...

Funny that that article mentioned Hawaii, because when my husband filled out his survey, he put Hawaii as the state he wanted to transfer too. :)

Stephanie

i have a copy of the survey i got from another group if you would like to see it please pm me your email address

There is a copy of the survey online already in one of the other threads that people can see if they like just so everyone knows.

I got a letter from my husband at PVSP. He said they were no longer moving them to Folsom and that they got the survey. This is great news for us because I am in AZ and that is one of the choices given! They can send prisoners to private prisons in other states, AZ already does. Sends some to OK. So I'm hoping it is true.

my son was given this same survey. they gave him a choice of iowa, texas, or oaklahoma. he only has 6 months left. dont think they'd move him when hes so short on time

My husband is at KVSP in Delano, CA and he was told that it was only a survey. He didnt even turn it in.

My husband wouldn't mind at all if he was moved out of the CA prison system and put in another state. I wouldn't either! I'm far away from him now anyways, But one of the things that concerns us is visiting. We may think that CA visiting is strict and a crock at times but there's other states that are way worse!! Alot of states don't even let you sit next to eachother or hold hands or even hug at the begining/end of visits and no kisses at all. Not even on the cheek. Also, alot of other states are very restrictive on how often you visit/hours per visit too. For example, some prisons have 8-10 hour visiting days but you're only allowed 1-3 hours per visit. So, it's just something I've had in mind. :eek:

well my man is in kentucky you get one weekend day visit from start check in is 730am and you get to stay until 2 pm i dont think that is a bad thing and you get to kiss and hug him at the beginning and end of visit and hold hands throughout the visit it is great. but there are also places in kentucky that you visit through glass for 2 hours or less. and the jails are like twice a week for 15 minutes. it just depends where you are and the rules at that prison or jail. each state is different and well as each place is different. but i am glad i get what i get.

All CA prisons inmates were or will be getting the survey to fill out and there is a box on there to say NO I want to stay in CA I'm not sure if the DR or Lifers will get it or not... also it depends on what level they are at if it is contact visit or not.

Why would anyone want to move further away from their families? I would think that it wouldnt matter where because prisons look the same for the most part on the inside. I would be afraid that it would be like jumping from the frying pan into the fire!

Ok here's the scoop!!! I work with the Department of Corrections and "Rehabilitation"... Interstate Compacut Unit in Sacramento, CA. It is ONLY a survey!!! There has been nothing etched in stone that this will be done. CA prisoners do have a chance to do their time in another state if the receiving state is a Compact participant, to be closer to families, medical reason, etc., but there is already a huge waiting list (about 5 years). They are just asking if given the chance would they go to another state! I know it is supposed to help with overcrowding but those who have families in other states should be able to do their time closer to their families and those who's families are in CA should be able to stay in CA. Legally YES they can make them go to another state prison or even to a federal prison, but that is usally for their own protection or for security reasons (ie; gang drop-outs, protective custody inmates, cops gone bad). It is not just for the "illegal" inmates, or any certain level of inmates, it is for all!! But is just a survey and nothing else!! The Interstate Compact Unit has had no say in this matter this is the works of Arnold and the CCPOA. Trust me this is still a long way in the making, but it can be done, it is already being done, but only per the inmates request. And yes wherever you do your time at is the state to which you will Parole to. You have no idea how many cases I get a week, from inmates that are trying to transfer their parole to another state upon release form a CA prison (it's in the hundreds). If that is a part of their Parole plan, why don't they just let them do thier time in that state since they want to parole there anyway?! There are a lot of inmates who were just "passing threw" and have commited a crime and want to go back home and it is such a huge process for them and there is a tremendous amount of paperwork involved to ensure that no one is "lost" in betwen the transition.

So I am for it, for those who are willing to go on their own to another state and do their time but for those who do NOT want to go should NOT be forced to go because that would not be a good plan for thier "Rehabilitation".

I agree with "Maggie 12" when she says that they need to reduce sentences and give those a second chance instead of throwing away the key!!

I myself have my fiance` in Delano doing a Life with the possibilty of Parole sentence, on a 187 case. And the way our system is, it seems nearly damn impossible to get that "possibility" of parole. I have come across crimes that are much more heinous then what he has done and they are getiing 7-11 years MAX!!! I honestly wish that we the TAX payers had more of a say in how things are really handeled. So that everyone could be treated fair and equaly.

I have seen it from both sides, having my fiance` in Delano II, and being treated as a convicts "wife", and working for the same system that has him locked up. It is disgusting to see the things that they can get away with. So hopefully when I am high enough in the ranks I can make a difference! I know I can't change the world, but if I can just help one person, then I know that there will be someone else out there that can do the same.

nvr2l8- thanks for sharing your inside perspective. im sure you put a lot of peoples worry to rest, at least for now. i know i feel better hearing your story. I am sorry about the situation your fiance is in, and i will keep you in my prayers. its nice to know someone who understands both sides of the system is up there fighting for whats right. keep your chin up!

If I saw right, that article was from August. That meeting did take place. And if I remember correctly the whole thing was shot down because the federal government will be taking over the California Prison system.
I got a letter yesterday from my husband who wrote that they did give everyone the survey and it was not optional to fill it out. (at PVSP) He states it this way:
Monday we were all going to Folsom, Tuesday some were going to Corcoran and the rest to Folsom. Wednesday none of us are going anywhere. The newest is that we are going somewhere someday but no one knows when or where for sure!"
He also mentioned the rumor about the Federal government taking over the prison system. Good thing is that Federal is half time served, not like California at 85%. Most likely this is all an election thing. Even Philip Angelitis was using it in a commercial I saw just this morning.
The other thing he mentioned was that there will be no fourth quarter packages and no book orders until they know for sure what is going to happen.
I do know that the federal government has taken over the health care. He finally got in to see a doctor and took care of necessary things. -C

In response to the above Reply. The Federal Government has taken over in on only some of the medical treatment. Like major surgeries and those who have valid complaints. So they did not take over on the "whole" medical part of Corrections. The Federal Government would like to take over on the whole California Prison system, but that is still another uphill battle! The survey was and still is optional!! They can not make any inmate fill out any form that he or she does not want to! I do know that they are moving a lot of inmates from one prison to another within the state of California. They want to put drug offenders in drug programs and those who are more violent houesd together, and those with minor crimes together. They are looking at different ways of rehabilitation, and if those who are convicted of certain crimes are housed together than they can utilize the rehabilitation process as a whole. I know it doesn't sound like it's going to work, and to be quit honest with you , it probably wont. Our prisons are over crowded because they have inmates in prison for sensless crimes (Parole violators, RSP, this lifers, and this 3-strikes thing)!! Under the Federal laws you must serve 100% of your time, if you are convicted of a Federal crime. There are certain classes available for certain crimes commmitted that will take off a year or two, but not 50% of the time. Federal crime are more likely to be more punishable at a rate 3 x more higher than a State crime. In California Prisons you can do 50% of your time, if they get a job while incarcerated (for every one full time day worked they are entiled to two days of credit to be taken off their prison sentence)or if it is ordered by the judge to do only 50% of their time due to good behavior. There will be 4th quarter packages. That is an inmate right to their packages if they are eligible per Title 15; section 3138. (d) (1)(2), so don't let anyone tell you or them any different!! So yes there will be inmates moving but within the state of California, They will not be transfered out of state any time soon!! So we will see how it goes, but hopefuly it will go in the inmate favor!

In response to the above Reply. ....
Thank you for this updated information

I talked to my husband last night and he said that this quarter package has to be there by the 18 to be accepted, no later, thats what he was told.

They were talking about moving some from Cali to Michigan. Michigan has it's own overcrowding issues so I really hope they don't do this.

In response to the above Reply.

TenQ for the information. I was misinformed. I do know that I heard of 85% service time whether they work or not while incarcerated. I thought that was changed about 2 years ago. I'm not sure if it's for certain crimes. As to the 4th quarter package, I misunderstood what my husband wrote. He wrote they might move him so don't send him one. So I called the records office Friday where he is and they said it (moving out of state) was in the very beginning stages, nothing was going to happen for quite awhile and that moving them to a different prison within the state right now was "on hold".
I could have sworn I heard that Federal took over the health care. So what is the federal government doing to help the health care in the prisons here? -C

my husband is in wasco and he told me the same thing yesterday at visit. they were given surveys to see who would be willing to make the change. if they do then they would go by that states system and could possibly get their sentences lowered. its due to overcrowding and since they arent gonna get the grants to build new prisons then he was told that the feds are coming in and taking over the prisons to get things situated better. that could even mean they are gonna re-evaluate everyone and could possibly have their time cut. that would be great. i dont think them filling it out will be an agreement to move its just to find out who would be willing to move. hopefully this will be something good and they could come home sooner. those who deserve to anyway right?

can i ask this then, those sentenced to 85% can have time cut for working while in there? i get confused on this stuff sorry. my husband was convicted of robbery and was sentenced to 85%. he now has job with a pay number. does this qualify him to the 1 for 2 days credit? do they ever get time cut for good behavior? just curious and hoping for an early home coming. thanks for all your help. :)

loving my indian till my last breath! :)

can i ask this then, those sentenced to 85% can have time cut for working while in there? i get confused on this stuff sorry. my husband was convicted of robbery and was sentenced to 85%. he now has job with a pay number. does this qualify him to the 1 for 2 days credit? do they ever get time cut for good behavior? just curious and hoping for an early home coming. thanks for all your help. :)

loving my indian till my last breath! :)

Him working makes him eligable to recieve the 85% credit, if he was sentenced to do 85%. he has to have good behavior (meaning no major write ups) AND work/participate in school in order to get the 85% time cut. the day for day credit only goes to those inmates who recieved a sentence thats not a strikeable offense, and not a violent felony (i believe those are the only two exceptions to the 50% credit)

oh ok, thank you very much. hes been there for 2+ years and is doing very well. no trouble, no write-ups no nothing. just working doing what he needs to do to get home asap! so as long as this continues then he will stay with the 85% am i right? and if he were to get into any type of trouble or not work then they would take the 85% and make him serve the full sentence of 15 years? again i thank you for your help. dolores

loving my indian till my last breath! :)

My man also got the same "survey" He's in Chino and everyone in his building had to complete the survey. Said if anything passed so Ca inmates would be shipped out of state they would come back to thoes surveys and give them the opportunity to move. But they wouldn't be made to move.

Hey Maggie If your Dude is out next year then he will do the remainder of his time there they are only shipping out long termers and lifers. This could be a good thing in those peoples cases be their sentences might be reduced based on what state they are sent to. Good luck and I wouldn't worry about your man

To NVR2L8

I wanted to ask you a question since you seem to see both sides of the fence. My fiance is serving a 15 to life sentence on a plea bargain. He is in Solano and i live in mississippi. He would love to transfer to mississippi as he wants to parole there as well. His recent concerns are that he is medium security at this time and although lock downs do occur, his yard has less of them than some. He does not want to move from bad to worse but it is a financial strain for me to see him and mostly all of his family lives in another state as well. How do we go about finding out the pros and cons for a move to another state? The advantage of course is the closeness of him to me here and it would be closer for other family members as well. Also he could parole here and wouldnt have to wait for parole to allow him to move to another state. Mississippi only houses a total of 21000 inmates statewide compared to cali's 173000 there. Disadvantages No knowing what the politics are in mississippi and parole from the board how does that work? He has done all the BPH has asked of him and kept his nose clean. The victims family is all for parole if he is willing to leave cali. He was given a 2 year denial last hearing with only two recommendations... get more positive chronos and attend AA and NA meetings. If he is transferred to mississippi will his chances with the board be any different here.... kinda out of site out of mind type thinking. How does that work? Can you tell me. And also why is there a 5 year wait to transfer out of state? Is it that difficult to get? Let me know what you can answer. If anything. He has been in 20 years, working on 21.
thanks for any help you can give me
msmomto4

Eddie is at CSATF and he recieved the same package and did turn it in because he would like to be moved to Washington. He was told he is state wide because of over crowding.

PS He has 10 months left on his sentence.

heres an article one of the girls on PTO brought to my attention. thought id share it here.... its a little long, but read it if you have a loved one in the CDC.

State Prison Crowding Emergency Declared

Schwarzenegger's move could allow forcible transfers of inmates to out-of-state lockups.
By Jenifer Warren
Times Staff Writer

October 5, 2006

SACRAMENTO — With California's jam-packed prisons nearly out of room for more felons, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Wednesday proclaimed a state of emergency, an unusual move that could allow the transfer of inmates as soon as next month to other states without their consent.

The governor said he was taking the extraordinary step because teeming conditions have created a health risk and "extreme peril" for officers and inmates at 29 of the state's 33 prisons.

Crowding is so severe, the governor's emergency decree says, that it has overwhelmed water, sewer and electrical systems at some prisons and fueled hundreds of prison riots, melees and smaller disturbances in the last year. At one maximum security prison, in Folsom, violence is so prevalent all inmates are now fed in their cells.

Without immediate action, officials said they would run out of prison beds next summer. That would leave inmates to pile up in county jails, many of which are already overcrowded or operate under court-imposed population caps that force them to grant some felons early release.

"Our prisons are now beyond maximum capacity, and we must act immediately and aggressively to resolve this issue," Schwarzenegger said in a statement.

Prisoner rights advocates questioned the timing of the announcement.

Donald Specter, director of the Prison Law Office, a nonprofit firm that has won numerous lawsuits challenging conditions inside state lockups, called the emergency declaration "political theater" by a governor running for reelection.

"Why now? This is an idiotic thing to be spending time on, because the number of beds they will be able to find in other states will amount to a grain of sand on a beach," Specter said. "In terms of serious reform, there is nothing about this that makes sense."

At a media briefing, Corrections Secretary James Tilton said the troubles are so pervasive that he could not wait for legislators to act. He said the emergency proclamation allows him to skirt the state's cumbersome competitive-bidding process and sign contracts for out-of-state beds quickly.

Tilton said officials would begin by transferring volunteers as early as November and, if necessary, create more space later through mandatory moves.

Though overcrowding has long been an issue in the state's lockups, it has reached crisis levels over the last few years, with most of California's prisons packed to twice their intended capacity.

Of the 172,000 men and women behind bars, about 17,000 are in what Tilton called "bad beds" — bunks in areas not designed as living space. Prisoners now sleep in converted gyms, hallways and lounges. Roughly 1,500 sleep in triple-decker bunks.

Tilton said the state is poised to sign three- to five-year contracts for 2,200 beds at private prisons in Oklahoma, Indiana, Arizona and Tennessee.

An additional 19 states have expressed an interest in housing California's felons, he said, representing a total of about 10,000 beds in private and government facilities.

Based on early negotiations, Tilton predicted the cost of housing inmates out of state would be less than the in-state costs. The out-of-state facilities would need to provide the same protections to inmates that they receive under California law, Tilton said.

Tilton said he hoped to begin the transfers with 200 male inmates next month and continue transferring 100 to 200 weekly, after a screening process places convicts with facilities that match their security level.

A recent survey by authorities in the prisons suggested that as many as 19,500 convicts were interested in a voluntary transfer, though Tilton said the number may not be solid.

"We want to make sure they know that this does not mean early release in Florida," Tilton quipped, noting that the initial survey, completed by 141,833 inmates, was not a binding agreement.

Many of those who volunteer could also be screened out if they have serious mental health or medical problems. Tilton said such inmates require special handling because the medical and mental health care in California's prisons are under federal oversight after two class-action lawsuits against the state.

If mandatory transfers are necessary, officials will target two categories of inmates first: illegal immigrants scheduled for deportation upon release and prisoners who would be paroled to states other than California.

Lawyers for inmates said that although they support voluntary transfers, they would challenge any involuntary moves.

Democratic lawmakers also criticized the Republican governor, saying he had dawdled despite repeated warnings about the growing problems. Last fall, for instance, the chief of adult prisons said in a memo that a "population crisis" was creating "an imminent and substantial threat to the public safety."

"If he had listened to his own people back then, we wouldn't be in this crisis," said Assemblyman Mark Leno (D-San Francisco), chairman of the Assembly Public Safety Committee.

Leno said the Schwarzenegger administration could have eased crowding early on through parole reform, specifically, by allowing thousands of low-level parole violators to face sanctions in their communities rather than returning them to prison.

Corrections officials said they have been working on short- and long-term solutions to the crowding crisis, but noted that their plans were rejected by lawmakers during the recent special session on prisons that Schwarzenegger called this summer.

That session ended in August, when legislators said no to a $6-billion package of proposals from the governor. They included forcible transfers out of state of 5,000 illegal immigrant felons facing deportation, the use of private facilities in California to house 4,000 low-security inmates, and the transfer of 4,500 nonviolent female prisoners — about 40% of the total of incarcerated women — to regional correctional centers.

Legislators said the governor's package was hastily assembled, and some Democrats said the mandatory out-of-state transfers could be unconstitutional. They asked the administration to return next year with a new set of proposals.

Recent projections show the prison population will continue to rise steeply.

By 2011, the forecast shows, California would have more than 193,000 inmates, equal to the population of Irvine.

Though concerned about the population crunch and extra risk posed to their members, the state's prison guards union expressed skepticism about the idea of out-of-state transfers, especially mandatory moves.

"If you do something mandatory, violence will go up," said Robert Dean, spokesman for the California Correctional Peace Officers Assn. "These guys aren't going to want to leave their families behind, I can tell you that."

does anyone know what facilities are going to house california inmates? I figured it would be prisons run by CCA, but i could be wrong.

i wonder if those who are in reception can request to be transfered to one of those facilities

According to an article in the Sacramento Bee there are three companies being contracted with: Corrections Corporation of America, Cornell Corrections and the Geo Group

does anyone know what facilities are going to house california inmates? I figured it would be prisons run by CCA, but i could be wrong.

i wonder if those who are in reception can request to be transfered to one of those facilities

hello I've been reading the Sacramento Bee and I even went into the Illinois news paper and its said that the state of illinois will be renting space to california and thay will not be mixing CA inmates with Illinois inmates. And when its time for them to parole they will be sent back to CA.