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dexh23 07-31-2003, 03:51 PM How much validity is in the stuff I've been reading about women being raped and all in prison? I have to admit that I am worried about it. Maybe I'm just reading too much negative stuff. If anyone know anything about this, particularly in Indiana, please let me know. I know I'm probably just being paranoid, but it scares me. Thanks.
B-Ray 08-01-2003, 02:07 AM I have written a few females and rape isn't a common thing. There were a few here in CA a few years ago, but the male guards were brought up on charges. I haven't hear of any since.
I heard of one female being raped by two female inmates with a broom handle in the butt, but the victum was a trouble maker big time.
Rumors are just that, rumors and they run rampad in the male prisons also.
sandy313 09-25-2003, 10:26 AM THE VIRGINIA PRISONS WERE CLEANED UP AROUNG 98-99 TIME FRAME AND MALE GUARDS ARE NOT ALLOWED ALONE WITH THE FEMALE INMATES.
Were very common in Michigan until very recently... There was a lot of publicity about it...
Deb
mrsdragoness 09-25-2003, 03:37 PM 350 women in Michigan have filed a lawsuit regarding sexual assault and sexual harrassment here. Recently a C/O was found guilty - a second time - on charges of sexaully assaulting female prisoners.
Here's the link to that story: http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26560
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Kerch 09-28-2003, 07:37 AM Here's something that should create quite a stir:
What if we get our politicians to make a law stating that if a CO has sex with an inmate, while they are in custody, that they be charged with RAPE. Whether it be consensual sex or not.( Is it ever really consensual?)
That should give them something to think about.:pissed: :pissed: :pissed:
Make it a class A Felony:pissed:
toi_ama 09-28-2003, 08:49 AM You mean it's NOT considered rape? I'm not surprised, but it should be rape just like it would be for someone out here.
cadiz 08-11-2004, 05:47 AM You mean it's NOT considered rape? I'm not surprised, but it should be rape just like it would be for someone out here. I worked on the campaign to criminalize custodial sexual misconduct over several years. We had major problems with labor unions.
Generally speaking prison guards who sexually abuse juvenile or female prisoners can expect a sweetheart deal. Headline issues that enter the public domain will invariably relate to serial sex crime and singular events or solitary victims are virtually unheard of.
The culprit will be 'let go' on a singular issue, it will be a plea bargain if it reaches the trial stage and the offender will usually not have to serve time. very little effort will be expended on sexual abuse audits to track other potential victims.
The Sheriff, Director etc. will usually make a speech about a 'bad apple' and perhaps add 'very rare event' etc. If an allegation surfaces the jail or county officials might decide to affect denial, should that be the case, they will be sure to remark that female inmates can't be trusted etc. and that false acusations are a dime a dozen.
cadiz 08-11-2004, 05:54 AM Were very common in Michigan until very recently... There was a lot of publicity about it...
Deb
I interviewed DOC officials and guards in Michigan in 98/99. The risk management was poor, they hired convicted sex felons to guard the females. I encounter that phenomena fairly frequently.
I also uncovered the Allegheny County Jail (Pa.) abuses and reported it to the authorities. They certainly retained or hired sex predators etc. Sex abuse of children and females by jail guards is frequently well organized.
cadiz 08-11-2004, 06:31 AM I have written a few females and rape isn't a common thing. There were a few here in CA a few years ago, but the male guards were brought up on charges. I haven't hear of any since.
I heard of one female being raped by two female inmates with a broom handle in the butt, but the victum was a trouble maker big time.
Rumors are just that, rumors and they run rampad in the male prisons also.
I do go back a few years it must be said. However since Abu Ghraib dozens of females have complained about sexual degradation or abuse etc. in California, all or most of that is the county jail system. The last discussions I had with the CDC would have been about two years ago.
In California there were hundreds of events (in state prisons) related to rape, sexual misconduct etc. Some of the state guards were very busy serial sex predators both on and off campus. Some culprits will of course also rape their colleagues etc. The CDC had a 'slush fund' for that.
If we throw the county jails, juveniles, immigration etc. into the basket, the historic issues could barely be counted unless we had a few years and hired staff. The Bureau of Prisons facility at Dublin was also interesting for want of a better expression.
I would be wary of assuming the bad old days had vanished. However if you are talking to people at the moment within the CDC system, you would have the advantage of a contemporary insight which I do not have.
I have spoken to two or three lawyers this month in California about jail abuses and they seem (first impressions) as common as ever. I have not really formed a firm opinion one way or the other about the frequency of custodial sexual misconduct re: California.
cadiz 08-11-2004, 06:47 AM THE VIRGINIA PRISONS WERE CLEANED UP AROUNG 98-99 TIME FRAME AND MALE GUARDS ARE NOT ALLOWED ALONE WITH THE FEMALE INMATES.
Sexual misconduct risk management violations should be administratively classified as a job losing issue. For example being alone in a store room etc.
It revolves upon risk and administrative rules. The priority is to prevent the crime or abuse before it happens and to discover it if it does happen.
mrsdragoness 08-11-2004, 10:36 AM this is a 13 month old thread.. if someone wishes to discuss current issues please start a new thread.
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