justdontknow
06-18-2006, 04:47 PM
I need some people who have someone in McAlester. My sons dad says he keeps being thrown into disliplinary action which he says is the old death row and is like a tomb and very dark. I need to know what gives. He finished a letter from in there and it was very crooked but they still mailed it out to me. What is this disliplinary action about? Please, there is no telling how long til i would hear from him again to get the story out of him. Also, he sent one visit form but i assume both his son and i would have to each have a form?
If he is being tossed away so to speak, wouldnt it be safe to assume he isnt getting any care for his pain and or seizures he has? Is that *allowed*?
buttercupforwes
06-19-2006, 10:17 AM
On the visiting form. If the son is a minor you just need to take his birth certificate with you and let them make a copy of it or take them a copy. They only have adults fill out the visitation form. It usually takes a month to get approved.
On the disciplinary action, usually they only get put down for breaking the rules. this includes fighting.
I'm not sure if they can neglect medical sezuires that require medication or not.
I'm sorry to hear of your situtation but I'm afraid all you can do is wait. That's all we do is wait, keep writing him, so when he comes up he'll know you've been thinking about him, he'll get your letters when he comes out of the hole.
I'm here for ya, I'd be freakin out if my man got put down, but I know that this is just part of their life there.
justdontknow
06-19-2006, 12:48 PM
He makes it sound like he didnt do anything, that he got put there for 5 weeks when he first arrived because it is some sort of leftovers holding until more room is made or something but then in the same letter, he does say he got mixed up in some trouble. Either way, they were slowly not giving him his pain meds and stuff before transfering him from the county he was in to Lexington. Thank you so much for the answers. Is your guy there? I am in Sapulpa and my son is his child and he was not the same person when Jake was creted, i assure you. His son knew him long before he got mixed up in meth and so forth to cause all this shit or there is no way he would even be in our lives.
buttercupforwes
06-20-2006, 11:50 AM
My man is in OSP. I am in Tulsa. Sorry to hear that your guy has trouble with meth, that is a whole other problem all by itself. You know I hate to say this, but there is nothing you can do while he is using. He has to stop and control himself before you will ever be able to "get through" to him. Luckily my man has been clean for 3 years. I have a Jake too, he's mine not his bio son but he is his none the less.
Best of luck to ya. Hollar if you ever need a shoulder.
justdontknow
06-22-2006, 03:51 PM
When we met, i knew he was trying to get clean of alcohol but after all was said and done and all this happened, he said that the reason he told me he wanted to be free was because he felt the old pull to whatever kind of drugs and didnt want me around to see his downfall. He says he was tired of being alone and no one wanting to be around him and his little lake house which i loved but he either didnt know it or didnt want to accept it. Saddest of all is that he had faught for custody of his older daughter from his marriage and was raising her and still let all this go down. He claims he shot this woman in defense of a woman who had become his wife. The woman was the wife's sister and he says he was going to get help when he crashed his motorcycle doing about 90 but after all was said and done, he got no trial and apparently took what he had to take. Now that he is in Mcalester for up to 40 + years, i dont think he'll be having any drug problems unless he gets it from the inside which i think the system is good about providing har har.
Thanks!
Ronnies Girl
07-06-2006, 07:38 AM
:yes: Good Morning, justdontknow. I am Ronnies Girl and we have done lots of time at the Walls. He is not there now. We made our levels and he was transferred to LCF. Ronnie is in PC; so , it is the the Walls or LCF and believe me we would come back to the Walls in a heartbeat. Anyway let me see if I can help a little bit. He is appartently in trouble for something so he is doing what we called DU time. You do not get punished this way for doing nothing. They have broken a rule and caused a major cellblock disruption when this happens. He gets his mail. He can write to you if he has the materials from his property; otherwise you will not be able to be in contact with him. You can call the facility and ask to speak with his case manager, counselor, or you can speak with the assistant warden. They will tell you what they will. Do not expect them to real forthcoming. They hide behind confidentiality ALL the time, but they can tell you how long he will be in DU and how long it will be before you can visit him. They should be able to tell you if his visits will be contact or non contact. Ronnie did about 90 days at one stretch down there. It is better in some ways because he was singled celled and he could read and write and be left alone which he needed. They are taken out for exercise. That is in a enclosed wire cage usually for an hour a day or at least every other day. He will exercise alone. There might be someone in another cage that he could talk too, but that is not likely. Ronnie quit smoking while he was on DU and he dealt with the death of his father while he was there. Being alone allowed him to be able to express emotions he would not otherwise have been able to do. DU is on the Dealth Row unit and it is the newest and cleanest of the cellblocks at MAC. It is all underground so it may seem dark, but it is lighted and air conditioned etc. He should receive his medicines and they should be watching him closely enough to know if he is having seizures. If he has hurt himself or if they feel he might they will place him on a suicide watch and be sure that he isn't able to harm himself. Ronnie is doing 50 years. He has discharged the 2 10's(they were running concurrectly) and we are now on the 30 which is his controlling case. We have served 13 flat so we are still looking at a long time. Keep writing your husand and don't give up. He needs you now more than ever. If I can help or you have move questions just ask. I'll try. Good Luck and keep your chin up. If you like you can email at aaceco@yahoo.com HUGS:) :grouphug: :)