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loveischichi
03-19-2006, 08:54 PM
What is the difference between pre-release and parole?

bethbupp
03-19-2006, 09:32 PM
I hope that bobble will correct me if I get this wrong. Pre-release is when the inmate has not yet reached their minimum, and the DOC transfers them to a halfway house. Halfway houses run by the DOC are officially called CCCs (Community Corrections Centers, I think) and are level one on the 1 to 5 security scale. (Level 5 is the hole. My son has worked his way up, over 10 years from being a level 4 -- because he was a juvenile -- to being a level 2, still living in or on the prison grounds, but able to be escorted off the property to clean highways, etc. He will never be a Level 1, because he is well past his minimum.) Anyway, if an inmate gets pre-release, he goes to live in a CCC, and gets a real job in the community. He is still under the supervision of the DOC, not parole. In that same CCC, there could also be living someone who is on parole, and did not have a home to go to, or the parole board thought they needed some extra supervision or programming for the first little while they were out. For parole, the inmate has at least reached his minimum, seen the board, and been approved for release. They are under the supervison of a parole agent. Did I just make any sense?

loveischichi
03-20-2006, 07:17 AM
Thank you Thank you You made perfect sense. He will be on parole and not early release because he has met his minimum etc. Should I just plan on him being there at least 3 months? I am sure they felt he needed a little programing. They decided CCC before they even checked his home plan. When does your son come home?

AURORARICK
03-24-2006, 06:25 PM
What do you have to do to qualify for pre release/ccc halfway houses. I read that your not a your minimum. How do you get into these programs. Also ar you allowed to hold hands at your visits or no physical contact at all except when you get there and leave?

bobble60
04-01-2006, 08:37 PM
Hi.
To qualify for pre-release, there is a procedure outlined in the DOC handbook. The first element is time-related. The inmate must be within 18 months of his minimum and have been in the DOc more than a year, plus he must be at least halway to his minimum. So, for example, if the sentence were 5-10, he'd meet all three criteria after 3-1/2 years. On a 2-whatever, the criteria are met at 1 year, however, they don't generally do pre-release on such short sentences.
Now, one the time requirements are met, the inmate can apply, through his counselor. They will hald a "staffing" and pass around a vote sheet. In non-violent and non-problematic offenses, the Superintendent is the final word. In more problematic cases, the decision goea all the way to the Regional Deputy Secretary.
Once approved, they are put in line for a bed date at any center within the "home" region.
If I've left anything out, let me know.

Regards,
bob

bobble60
04-13-2006, 09:01 PM
Hi.
Time eligibilty for pre-release is within 12 months of the minumum. Application is made within 18 months (to allow 6 months for the process.) As I understand your numbers, you're saying he has 12 months in on an 84 month minimum, and they mentioned pre-release in 30 months. That's 42 months in to his sentence, which is half the minimum.
Another time-eligibilty requirement is that half the minimum must be served. My hunch is that he's been given ONE requirement, but not ALL requirements. He is not eligible to apply until he has served 5-1/2 years, and he could go to the halfway house during the last year of his minimum.
You can get the entire DOC policy at www.cor.state.pa.us (http://www.cor.state.pa.us). Click on the link for policies, get the list on your screen, and you'll see one for Pre-release.
Sorry the reply isn't what you wanted.

bob

webchickie
06-21-2006, 09:46 PM
My husband is in Lycoming prc. They are letting more and more come there due to overcrowding of the lycoming county prison.... It sometimes has to do with luck... Ours was luck...

Littleone604
07-03-2006, 10:10 PM
okay....so if prerelease is out for an 84 month sentence......what are the chances of getting into the drug program at chester....anything else?? any other programs?? is anyone ever let out before 12months prior to their min???

davesmominpa
07-04-2006, 09:53 AM
My son is in SCI Houtzdale and he told me he heard they do not do any type of pre-release in state prison. Is this true? He was sentenced for 3-6yrs, first time offender for drug charges, he's having a problem getting in to boot camp and pre release may be another option. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Janice

sunshyne1023
07-04-2006, 09:08 PM
SCI's do have pre release. Before my fiance got out on prerelease a year before his minimum and was assigned to a community corrections center (halfway house) The inmates have to apply for pre release..have him talk to his counselor or you try to give his counselor a call.

DJS
07-11-2006, 03:48 PM
Hello everyone. I just sent a reply to Bob, but realized my questions may be already answered by reading some of the threads. Another question (s) I have is (1) my husband did county time at Bradford County (about 6 mos) He is currently doing time in NY. He was sent to PA Dec 2005 to finish his PA plea. They gave him 3 years. He is back in NY to finish his time their and will be transfered back to PA system to finish his time with them. Does his 6 mos count towards his 3 years? and (2) does this make him elig for parole instead of pre-release because of his time left? Thanks again for your help

Helms2003
07-26-2006, 10:31 AM
Anyone know anything about PA's state intermediate punishment program?

bobble60
07-26-2006, 08:08 PM
Hi.

Intermediate punishment is mainly what we would consider alternatives to incarceration, including house arrest, probation, community service, etc.

bob

Helms2003
07-27-2006, 05:25 AM
well my husband is in camphill, not at home, so theres more to intermediate punishment than that.

bobble60
07-27-2006, 08:30 PM
This is posted on the DOC website:

State Intermediate Punishment
The SIP program is designed for offenders convicted of drug-related offenses. A drug-related offense is a crime that was motivated by the defendant's consumption of or addiction to alcohol and other drugs. SIP offenders are low-level, for the most part. The program pretty much excludes offenders convicted of any violent or sex offenses, including any lesser offenses that involved the use of a deadly weapon.
For offenders to become involved in SIP, both the prosecutor and the sentencing judge must recommend them for the program. Prior to sentencing, the judge must request that the PDOC conduct a thorough drug and alcohol and risk assessment of the offender. If the PDOC determines that the offender is suitable for the program and the Commonwealth's attorney does not object, the judge may impose a state intermediate punishment sentence. Under SIP, the offender will serve a flat sentence of 24 months, at least seven of which will be served in in-prison, (four of them in a therapeutic community), a minimum of two months in a community-based therapeutic community and a minimum of six months in outpatient treatment. The balance of the 24 months consists of supervised reintegration into the community, which involves DOC staff monitoring their progress in the community and some additional services or treatment, based upon their individual needs and progress.
All participants in the SIP program will have an individualized treatment plan. Progress through the program is based on the assessed need and attainment of goals established for each offender. A person who fails in the program, due to misconduct or poor progress in treatement, will be subject to resentencing by the court under traditional sentencing guidelines.


bob

andrescakes
10-31-2006, 12:54 PM
My boyfriend was sentenced to 2 1/2- 5 yrs with time served which he served 11 months already in when sentenced, that was in July of this year. He just applied for pre-release and has been in SCI for 5 months. Is he eligible? How long does the pre-release process usually take? And how can I help with this process? Should I contact his counselor or the halfway houses in my area?

bobble60
11-06-2006, 09:08 PM
Hi.

The specific time requirements are:
1. Served at least nine months in a state prison;
2. Served at least one-half of the minimum; and
3. Be within one year of the minimum date.

Based on what you have said, he does not yet meet any of these. He will be time-eligible once he has served eighteen months, which I calculate to be in 7 months, or in June/July. Now, he should start the application NEXT MONTH, or 18 months before his minimum (six months before he is actually eligible.0

You can view the entire DOC pre-release policy at:
http://www.cor.state.pa.us/standards/lib/standards/DC-ADM_805_Policy_and_Procedures_for_Obtaining_Pre-Rlease.pdf

Regards,

bob

reekslove
11-21-2006, 09:29 PM
Bob, Is there anything you could tell me about P.C.R.A hearings. My fiance is up for one in december on a 5-10 sentence.

EJ's_lil_mama
12-12-2006, 12:20 PM
okay so my man is at SCI Huntingdon on a 6 yr sentence, and he's at 5 yrs and 4 months now, so if he didn't do the pre-release form that just means he will spend the rest of his time at huntingdon, instead of the HWH?........

bobble60
12-26-2006, 08:35 PM
Hi, and welcome.

You are correct. If he does nothing, he will see the parole board in about 2 or 3 months to consider release at his minimum. At this point, the process has already begun, so the prison probably would not consider an application for pre-release.

However, if the prison recommends him for parole, AND IF the Board denies him parole, he should have his counselor put him in for what we call "post-release," which is a halfway house like pre-release, where he would stay until he saw the Board again.

I hope this helps.

bob

Nathaniel'sGirl
05-28-2007, 03:56 PM
My boyfriend was sentenced to 4-10 years for 2 separate deliveries of 1 ounce of cocaine each time. He entered Adams County Correctional Facility on Nov. 7, 2006 and was transferred to Camp Hill on Oct. 13, 2006. I am not sure exactly when, but as some point he was transferred to Somerset. He told me he was classified as a level 3. I want to make sure I am understanding everything correctly. I know he is not eligible for pre-release yet, but when exactly will he be? I want to help me out as much as I can. I have read the material on PA's DOC website, but somethings are a little over my head. What information can you give me, that I can give to him, to help with the process?
Thanks for your help.

egs
05-28-2007, 08:52 PM
The specific time requirements are:
1. Served at least nine months in a state prison;
2. Served at least one-half of the minimum; and
3. Be within one year of the minimum date.

bobble60
05-28-2007, 10:04 PM
The time requirements listed above are correct. As applied to his case, he can be sent on pre-release when he has served three years (including any time credited prior to sentencing.) He can begin the application process six months earlier, 18 months before his minimum. He does this by seeing his counselor for the proper form.

austinswife
06-23-2007, 01:28 PM
Hey, My hubby is going to Boot Camp, with this pre-relaease or whatever after boot camp, how is the home approval done, we are married for 3 yrs by the time he comes home, no domestic issues with us,have a daughter,his boss is re-hiring him, will they have to contact my apartment complex for approval? How does it work. how long is he in the halfway house, I mean I have months to go, but where I live allows no criminal record, so I dont wanna renew my lease if they contact this place. I just wondered if anyone kew what i am looking forward to so that i can be prepared,. Thanks so much

austinswife
06-23-2007, 01:32 PM
another question, my hubby got 18-36 months, he was told he would be up for pre-release in sept of 2008, which is 18 months, they dont give you any time off for good behavior or anything in PA. he was charged with securities fruad and went in on March 26, 2007. Does anyone know what the earliest he could get out is if he doesnt go to boot camp for some reason. Thanks so much

austinswife
06-23-2007, 01:40 PM
Crazy me again. Is my husband able to see his counslerfor pre-release in 3months as he will have been served have of his minimun in october, he was sentenced to 18-36has been in state since mid-april, awaiting bootcamp, but unsure if he is ever getting there. He went to county on March 26th 2006, and when first arrested served a month in. Can you please help me, im so confused,. They told him his ealriest release would be sept 2008.

bobble60
07-04-2007, 08:48 AM
he will have been served have of his minimun in october,
Do you mean half his minimum in October?
he was sentenced to 18-36has been in state since mid-april,
So he'd have 9 months up-state in January 2008.
He went to county on March 26th 2006, and when first arrested served a month in. Can you please help me, im so confused,. They told him his ealriest release would be sept 2008.
So his minimum is September, 2008? If he was sentenced on 03-26-06, with one month credit, and received 18 to 36 months, then his minimum is next month (August 26, 2007) and his max is February, 2009.

I know you're confused, but the numbers your giving me don't work.

bob

austinswife
07-09-2007, 06:45 PM
Ok, i willtry to explain better
he was sentenced and self surendered on March 26, 2007. Not 2006. He is awaiting boot camp, which he was told would be a 6-8 week wait by his counseler, it is now past the 8 weeks, but the couseler also told him he would be home by next summer which didnt make sense as boot camp is 6 months, plus the half way house.We have been married over a year have a child and his boss is holding his job, so i am hoping his home plan will be approved quickly, but unsure, we are no where near that point yet. He served a month in county at time of arrest and then a month before going upstate at self surrender, I am so confused onboot camp wait, as lawyer toldme he would be home by thanksgiving. Wont even begin to comment on the deal with the attorney. Any advice would be so appreciated. thank you so much:thumbsup:

bobble60
07-10-2007, 07:22 PM
If he completes the boot camp program, his release timetable is different. He is elgible for the halfway house upon completion, which is roughly six months after he arrives there. Thanksgiving sounds too soon; January is more likely.

austinswife
07-12-2007, 09:33 PM
Bootcamp,
my husband wastold he would be leaving for boot camp in 6-8 weeks that was 8 weeks ago, how long is the wait, is it usually a very long wait, he was judge recommended and boot camp eligible, the counsler had him do all the papers and said you should be going in 8 weeks, some leave in 7 weeks. does anyone have any ideas. He was in the dentist there today,and there was a boy getting his dental exam for bootcamp,my hubby asked the nurse if he was on the list and she said, not for this month,so your not leaving this month. Any help.:mad:

faithandlove
09-06-2007, 09:53 PM
My 19 year old son was sentenced to 2 -4 years at Pine grove on 10/26/06 for burglary. He was at county for 6/28/06 - 10/26/06 (3months).
Boot camp eligible and time served for county time.
When he got to camp hill, the process was started for boot camp but was stopped and told he was not eligible because his charges say he had "burglary of occupied home" which was a mistake. He argued this was wrong but was sent to pine grove.
We contacted our lawyer asap who investigated and called the camp hill, the problem is: the state and the county interpret how the crime code reads. and neither the state or the county were willing to make a change. So we had to put more money out to get this fixed. The judge refused to fix the mistake with out a formal court hearing. We had to wait 5 months for a judge to say "OOpps" The mistake was fixed on his sentencing sheet. No appology, nothing .

He was told by a councelor he is eligible for pre-release 10/26/07. and was told he could start the application process 3 months prior. well, it took several requests and 2 months before his councelor call him in to give him the application.
Then he was told that he could not actually apply until 10/26/07 and it would take at least 3 months before the application process crossed over the needed desks of the prison system, county etc. and the 4 months he spent at county doesn't count toward pre-release. His sentencing sheet specifically says "time served"
could someone please explain the pre-release ?

egs
09-07-2007, 07:28 PM
If you begin at the beginning of this thread, you will learn a lot about pre-release and where to obtain additional information. Just click on Page 1 and you will be sent to the first page of this thread.
Welcome to PTO!!!

faithandlove
09-08-2007, 10:42 AM
sorry, the whole process is confusing and so frustrating to me. Since we have gotten different information from the same DOC, we are not sure what to believe and are afraid to not investigate anymore . My son told me that another CO told him to keep inquiring about his pre-release because his councelor is known to "be lazy" and hold onto things until the last possible minute. after at least 10 requests to speak with his councedlor he is finanlly called in to talk and his councelor told him to stop sending him request about pre-release. So, when i inquired about his pre-release status i was told to contact his unit supervisor and we did. she was basically annoyed that we were asking so many questions and defended the councelor. said my son's county time doesn't count toward his pre-release and he can't fill out application until 10/26/07.
So with that, i want to make sure i understand this completely.

county time 6/28/06 - 10/26/06
was sentenced to 2-4 yrs on 10/26/06 but was transferred to graterford for processing 12/23/06. Then transferred to camphill, then pinegrove.

Does county time count toward pre-realese?
Is he eligible for pre-realse 10/26/07?
How soon should the application process be started?
how long does process?

From what I understand:
My son was eligible to start application process on may of 07.
and he is eligible for pre-release 10/26/07

She121197
10-11-2007, 08:42 AM
My fiance is at SCI Fayette. His sentence is 2 to 4. He had to serve a minimum of 2 years. He spent 9 months in county. The judge gave him credit for time served. So with the time served he has been incarcetared for 15 months so far. He was allowed to apply for pre-release this week. my question is how much longer will it take from this point for him to be sent to a halfway house or is that up to the powers that be at Fayette?

walley
10-14-2007, 04:58 PM
vote sheet goes around the prison - if thats good then his counselor will write the judge - judge has 45 days to respond. Most likely he will NOT respond - thats as good as an OK. Then ANOTHER vote sheet goes around the prison - AGAIN... if that comes back then they get a bed date. So the time for the papercrap is 10 days 1st vote sheet - 45 days judge - then 10 days second vote sheet. so 2.5 months - THEN they have to get a CCC to take him and give him a bed date, that could be another 21 to 90 days. From start of papercrap to getting out for me it was about 90 days total.

She121197
10-15-2007, 07:53 AM
thank you for explaining that. 90 days doesn't sound that bad. I pray that it all goes as smoothly as yours did.

niaj32
03-18-2008, 12:09 PM
Hi my finace was sentenced to 2 1/2 - 5yrs for possession with the intent to deliver this was his first case ever he was conviced of. He has been down since 08/07. He said he is eligible for pre-release in Aug 08 (to submit his application) From what I understand he has to do at least 18 months (which will be in Jan 0f 09) before he can even be considersed for pre-release? Also, if he is approve by his counselor does the judge who sentenced him and the board also has to approve him for pre-release?

My next question is he is in SCI Greensburg and he said that someone told him that Greensburg doesn't do pre-relesase is that true? Please help really need some answers....

Thanking you in advance

Nia

egs
03-18-2008, 07:03 PM
Pre-release is a state program so the fact that a person is at one particular prison, or another, should not play a role in being eligible for pre-release. Once the DOC endorses the person for pre-release, information is sent to the sentencing judge; he or she has "x" number of days [30, I think] to respond. If the judge does not respond that is considered an approval for pre-release. One who is under pre-release is still under the supervision of the DOC; it has nothing to do with parole, so the Parole Board is not involved in pre-release decisions.

JoseMissy2005
03-22-2008, 03:01 PM
My husband is currently incarcerated at SCI Rockview. He just finished his application for pre-release can anyone tell me how long this process usually takes from start to finish

bobble60
04-06-2008, 05:55 PM
Six months is typical.

keisha2291
10-17-2008, 10:43 AM
I have a question about pre release, where should iI post it?

bethbupp
10-17-2008, 03:38 PM
You can start a new thread in this sub-forum, if you like.

JeromesBabyGirl
10-23-2008, 06:58 PM
how does post release work

faithandlove
10-24-2008, 08:07 AM
I spoke with my son last night. He said that every block in the facility had a meeting with unit superivsors and councelors and were told that all everyone who was scheduled for Parole was cancelled and anyone coming up for parole is put on. No time frame was given just that it could be for a few months or a year.
The reason given, Almost a month ago in Philly, there was an inmate who was paroled and 1 week after his release shot and killed a philadelphia police officer.
So.............we sit and wait. My son's original parole was denied because he didn't interview well, he was scheduled to have another hearing March 2009.
Has anyone in PA heard this info from their loved ones?

JeromesBabyGirl
10-26-2008, 06:11 PM
I spoke with my son last night. He said that every block in the facility had a meeting with unit superivsors and councelors and were told that all everyone who was scheduled for Parole was cancelled and anyone coming up for parole is put on. No time frame was given just that it could be for a few months or a year.
The reason given, Almost a month ago in Philly, there was an inmate who was paroled and 1 week after his release shot and killed a philadelphia police officer.
So.............we sit and wait. My son's original parole was denied because he didn't interview well, he was scheduled to have another hearing March 2009.
Has anyone in PA heard this info from their loved ones?



My husband told me today that the hold on parole for non violent offenders is lefted. So pre release and post release might be possible

mercury rising
05-31-2009, 06:08 PM
how long do they have to live in the CCC, is it until they were supposed to be released from jail

kwilly
08-19-2009, 10:46 PM
hi how are u all today? My ? Is my husband is due for pre release from dallas in september,he will be going to minsec in scranton, how long does it take to get a bed there? And his min. Is in january is there any chance he can be released from minsec before his min.?

BrownEyes
01-10-2010, 10:07 PM
the judge said my husband was "not RRRI eligible". Does that mean he's not eligible for pre-release?

bobble60
01-10-2010, 10:51 PM
No, it means his offense prevents him from the RRRI program.

RRRI means Recidivism Risk Reduction Incentive. It's a program wherein the judge imposes two minimum dates. If the person completes the DOC programs prescribed to him and maintains a clean conduct record, he is released on the earlier date. If not, he goes before the Parole Board on the later date. It's the closest thing to good time we could get a few years ago.

Only non-violent offenders are eligible for RRRI, which means most offenders don't get it.

jaypbaby
01-15-2010, 12:21 AM
what is post release????

bethbupp
01-15-2010, 04:12 AM
what is post release????
Post release is when the inmate is well past his minimum, usually a level 2 with outside-the-fence clearance, and parole has been denied. The institution/DOC disagrees with the decision of the parole board, and sends the inmate to a level one facility (CCC/ halfway house). My son was told by Graterford that if he had not made parole when he finally did, that they would be giving him post-release.

MrsHarvey
01-15-2010, 07:37 PM
My husband was in state prison for three years. He was then handed to the Feds to complete another sentence. In Feds he was sentenced 2 years 7 months. He begin July 1, 2009. He just called me and told me he was moved to pre-release. Can someone please explain how? why? what exactly might this mean? Thanks:confused::confused:

bobble60
01-17-2010, 07:56 AM
The feds use an entirely different system and terminology. Strictly speaking, "pre-release" in PA also includes clearance to work outside the perimeter fence (CL 2R and 2MC). It may be that the Fed is doing the same with your husband.

You may want to check the Federal forum for more info on this.

cassy7
02-17-2010, 06:09 PM
Hello,
I am new to this forum. My son was just placed in Camphill on Tuesday.
I was wondering if anyone is from the Blair county area. Are justice system
has much to be desired. I am considering starting some type of group, opposing the underhanded way in which Blair county criminal justice system does their dirty work.
I have alot of factual information and many ideas to help state this case.
But i can not do it alone.Anyone from the Blair county area, that feels the same way i do,please email me.

cassy7
02-17-2010, 07:10 PM
Hello,
My son was sentenced to a term of 3 to 6 years, for 2 drug sale charges.
He signed a plea agreement accepting the charges and the prison time. Because the
DA offered him the chance to get out of jail for 5 days, in exchange for signing the plea agreement. I pleaded with him not to take the plea. One of the reasons being i knew he had no intention of reporting back to the prison,after the 5 days was up.
As his mother i was very afraid of what the outcome would be if he did abscond.
I even called his attorney and begged himt discourage tony from accepting the plea.
The attorney told me that if Tony wanted to accept the plea, it was his decision, not mine. I even called the DA,s office. I really feel he was being set up for a fall.
To make a long story short, he did abscond. Only to be caught 9 months later.
He was charged with absconding. And was sentenced to 1 to 2 years for that charge. The DA would not run the sentence concurrent, nor would he approve the triple RR program.My heart is broken, and i am devastated.
As a mother this is one of the hardest things i have every had to go through.
My question is being that he has 2 different sentences, will he still be able to get pre release. and how would it be determined based on the 2 different sentences.
I would greatly appreciate any information you could give me.


THANKS SO MUCH, Tony,s Mom

bobble60
02-27-2010, 02:09 PM
First, he has to wait to see how the DOC interprets his combined sentences. It is they, not the court, that determine the aggreagte sentence from its many parts.

Whatever their determination, he then makes his pre-release computations from their numbers. If, as you suggest, his aggregate is now 4 to 8 years, then he can apply for pre-release after 30 months (when he is within 18 months of his minimum.)

Beware that the charge for absconding will make his shot at pre-release almost impossible.

granny4kids
03-15-2010, 10:08 AM
What happens after a home visit in PA and how long b-4 inmate is released. Thank you.

ALR2010
08-28-2010, 01:41 PM
Does anyone know how long it usually takes to hear back about a decision once an inmate goes to his "staffing" hearing? My love is doing this on September 17th, but I'm kind of in the dark about how long it will take to hear something back. :confused:

clickrs
09-01-2010, 05:53 PM
Hello,
My son is in BCCF in Doylestown. His sentence is 10-23 months, counting time served. He is preparing to move to the Men's Ctr for work release. We are confused about his release. Does he need to apply for Parole to be released in 10 months? Or is he automatically released. No one has given us the same answer yet. I really don't know the difference between Parole and Probation.
Thanks.

bobble60
09-04-2010, 07:42 AM
Since he has a county sentence, his sentencing judge is the one who makes the final decision to parole him. Prison staff should be on top of this, but he can remind his counselor as the date approaches.

Parole is PART of a sentence served after time spent in prison. It means he can finish his sentence in the community because he gives his word (hence the term parole) that he will comply with supervision and obey the laws.

Probation is given AS a sentence. It runs a lot like parole -- the person is allowed to live in the community under supervision. If he violates any term of his probation, it can be revoked and a new sentence imposed.

destmo
11-29-2010, 03:08 PM
my husband was sentenced 9/1/10 to 15-36 months on DUI charge no other incedents with it. 1/4 mo with RRRI. He has started his AOD program with end date of 3/25/11. He said there was mention in the program of release upon completion does this have anything to do with the bill that went into effect 11/1/10? Is there anything we should be doing for prerelease? We don't know what steps are involved in the prerelease. Is this something we should initiate or something the DOC initiates? His home plan is good I am in the process of purchasing the house that we have rented for the past 6 yrs His job is waiting for him, he recieves letters from the VP of the company he works for and has been told that they will write a letter to parole any time. He also says that in his handbook there is mention of him writing to parole but there isn't an address. Can someone please help me with this and tell me what needs to be done or what the procedure is? Thank you

exoticbrdlvr
11-29-2010, 06:23 PM
[quote=bobble60;1845296]Hi.
To qualify for pre-release, there is a procedure outlined in the DOC handbook. The first element is time-related. The inmate must be within 18 months of his minimum and have been in the DOc more than a year, plus he must be at least halway to his minimum. So, for example, if the sentence were 5-10, he'd meet all three criteria after 3-1/2 years. On a 2-whatever, the criteria are met at 1 year, however, they don't generally do pre-release on such short sentences.
Now, one the time requirements are met, the inmate can apply, through his counselor. They will hald a "staffing" and pass around a vote sheet. In non-violent and non-problematic offenses, the Superintendent is the final word. In more problematic cases, the decision goea all the way to the Regional Deputy Secretary.
Once approved, they are put in line for a bed date at any center within the "home" region.

My children and I need some answers please, my husband is in a prison for a sex offense, where he's at now he's in protective custody ( he calls it the hole) but they want to move him to another prison where he won't need to be in protective custody and can do his classes. He's only supposed to be in there 12-34 months with 77 days credit, he went to the prison sometime in Sept, i've heard the classes take two years to complete, is this true? When can I probably expect him to come home? The earliest date of his release in June 23 2011 and his latest date is Dec 2011, can someone please help me. He hasn't gotten into any trouble since he's been in. If you can answer my questions it would be greatly appreciated.

bobble60
11-30-2010, 06:36 AM
He needs to get out of PC. (Yes, he's being held in "the hole," but on Administrative Custody (AC) status as opposed to Disciplinary Custody (DC) status.) While he's in PC, he won't accomplish anything. So, if they're willing to re-locate him, he should take it.

I'm surprised by this because SO's really don't have such a rough time in PA prisons. 99.9% of the harassment is verbal; the rare physical problems arise when the SO gives the other inmates an excuse. Usually the SO's kind of lay low and are quietly ignored.

The current SO program has different aspects, depending on the individual. The Psychology Department staff should have made their recommendation by now. I don't think any type of the program stretched as long as two years now, but there will be a waiting period before he's enrolled. In reality, he's unlikely to be done by June, so he has no chance of parole at that time.

truthbtold11
12-06-2010, 11:07 PM
My friend started the pre-release process in June, did his "staffing meeting", got approved by the judge and DA over the summer, and in november was waiting for his counselor to give him a bed date (that should have been in mid-late december 201) when his counselor told him that his pre-release was suddenly stopped. His counselor didn't give him a reason, but said it wasn't his fault (he had no detainers and will complete his last program next week). Just trying to figure out what might have happened and what we can do to maybe get the process back on track. His counselor told him that he was supposed to go to region 2. What could have happened? Why do they suddenly stop pre-releases...?

sjones59
07-17-2011, 04:20 PM
My son was sentenced to 3-6 yrs for Homicide by Vehicle while Driving under the Influence. He is at Houtzdale and has been with the PA DOC since August 12, 2010. He is employed at the prison, has recently moved to the Honors block after being recommended/approved/etc by the guards. He has not taken his TC class yet. Can anyone give me any input into his eligibility for pre-release/parole? What are his options? Am I looking at seeing him home in the next year?
Sharon

lovin him only
08-31-2011, 08:55 AM
Is it possible to dispute a pre release decision? He was supposedly written up which caused a denial. I'm not sure what to do.

bobble60
09-04-2011, 08:54 AM
If he was written up, he was given a copy of the write-up. An inmate can't be "secretly" written up.

Pre-release decisions in most cases are made by the Superintendent of the facility. (Certain high-risk offenders must be approved at the Central Office.) The inmate knows who made the final decision. While an appeal may be possible, it is unlikely to succeed. The entire process is in the Inmate Handbook.

specialk
11-10-2011, 05:33 PM
are all violent offenses excluded from pre-release consideration at the institutional level? my friend has aggravated assault and thought he was eligible to go up for an institutional vote but recently he's heard that other people with similar offenses are being sent straight to harrisburg.

specialk
11-10-2011, 05:49 PM
hmm... just read DOC manual. looks like he should be eligible.

sjones59
01-08-2012, 05:31 AM
My son is eligible for pre-release in mid-February. He says he can be released to a home if his name is on lease...we thought he would automatically go to a HW house if he gets pre-release. Anyone know anything about this?
Just looking for some answers to get prepared. Thanks.
Sharon

bobble60
01-08-2012, 08:27 AM
Pre-release is NOT to a home, but to a halfway house. He must remain in DOC custody until (at least) the expiration of his minimum date. He can not be paroled before his minimum.

sjones59
01-08-2012, 02:52 PM
Thanks Bobble...that is what I thought was that he would be released to a HWH to serve the remainder of his minimum. Not sure where he got his info.

Aj215
01-13-2012, 06:31 PM
My son is in SCI Houtzdale and he told me he heard they do not do any type of pre-release in state prison. Is this true? He was sentenced for 3-6yrs, first time offender for drug charges, he's having a problem getting in to boot camp and pre release may be another option. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Janice

He was and is eligible for one of the three pre release program's, RRRI, Boot camp, and SIP. I would recomend applying to bootcamp

bobble60
01-15-2012, 09:42 AM
None of these are pre-release programs. They are sentencing alternatives that can be used by the court. They are not open to "application" by an inmate. Please see DC-ADM 805 to leanr about pre-release programs.

http://www.cor.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/doc_policies/20643

sjones59
02-02-2012, 03:08 PM
Can anyone give me a ball park figure on how long after an inmate applies for Pre-Release are they notified they got it or not? Any help greatly appreciated.
Sharon

msonlydabest
02-02-2012, 07:44 PM
The counselor will work with them...18 months prior to his min he will be eligible.

sjones59
02-03-2012, 04:15 AM
My son will be applying for pre-release Feb 13th, 2012. Just wondering how long it should take for him to hear back if he's approved or not. Curosity has the best of me...that and hoping for some good news. :)

Callalilly
02-03-2012, 01:55 PM
I'm still confused about pre-release and RRRI, and since I have to share one 15 minute phone call (with two other people) that only comes once every 4 days.... I haven't gotten the chance to discuss it with him. My question is.. Can he complete his RRRI program and have his pre-release dates roll back according to his RRRI date or does he have to either use his RRRI date OR his pre-release date. Does that make any sense??

bobble60
02-05-2012, 02:44 PM
His pre-release eligiblity dates will be based on his RRRI minimum date, so he can "use both," as you put it. Should he be denied pre-release at that point, he will still be eligible for parole consideration at the RRRI date. Should he be denied parole, he can re-apply for pre-release based on his "long" minimum. Make sense?

Callalilly
02-05-2012, 03:22 PM
Thank you Bobble. That makes sense. It just made my day!

cmlady
02-20-2012, 09:05 PM
My husband is at SCI Forest. He was moved last year from a federal prison to begin his state time. He sentence is 5-10 years on a robbery charge. Is it possible for him to qualify for pre release? If so, how much does he has to serve before qualifying?

Callalilly
02-22-2012, 07:30 AM
The doc will tell him if he is eligible.. have him talk to a counselor. Check out the PA doc website for more info.

bobble60
02-26-2012, 07:46 AM
A state sentence of 5-10 years:

1/2 of the minimum = 2-1/2 years from the day the sentence begins; and
1 year in the state system = 1 year from the day he enters the DOC; and
1 year left before his minimum = 4 years from the day the sentence begins.

Thus, he is time-eligible for pre-release when he is one year from the minimum date of his state sentence. This date will be on his Sentence Status Summary, which he will be given shortly after he arrives at Camp Hill.

FYI: If he is still serving any part of the federal sentence, he will be rejected for pre-release. He can also be rejected due to the violent nature of a robbery charge.

ty smith23
03-02-2012, 02:43 PM
My bf was sentenced to 3-7 years he is also RRRI eligble how long will he have to do before he get pre-released or go up for parole?

christik999
03-03-2012, 02:10 AM
My bf was sentenced to 3-7 years he is also RRRI eligble how long will he have to do before he get pre-released or go up for parole?
i ont know much about RRRI since we didnt quilify for it , if you read these posts fully im sure itsexplained in detail i thought it was 18 months .

i do know pre release , and on a sentance of 3-7 he would have to serve 2 yrs to be on pre release.

many people think pre release is coming home its not , its moving to a halfway house the last yr of your sentance. still great you can work , earn passes home etc.

ty smith23
03-03-2012, 07:41 AM
i ont know much about RRRI since we didnt quilify for it , if you read these posts fully im sure itsexplained in detail i thought it was 18 months .

i do know pre release , and on a sentance of 3-7 he would have to serve 2 yrs to be on pre release.

many people think pre release is coming home its not , its moving to a halfway house the last yr of your sentance. still great you can work , earn passes home etc.

Thank you!!!

cmlady
03-11-2012, 05:07 PM
Thank you Bobble60 for your information. Thankfully, he does not have to serve any more federal time. We have done all we could to do including a PCRA. At this time, he is focusing on serving his time and doing what he needs to qualify for pre release. We just received some good news as his level was dropped from a 4 to a 2. We have to celebrate the little things. His counselor informed him that if he continues to do well, that he will start the process for pre release towards the end of 2014.

sjones59
05-02-2012, 06:04 PM
Do the victim's family have any say on an inmates pre-release eligibility? They didn't say anything at his sentencing but I'm wondering if they will be contacted about his pre-release application. thanks.

bobble60
05-06-2012, 08:58 AM
The DOC contacts the sentencing court, which in turn notifies the DA, who in turn may contact the victim's family. The family's input may then trickle back up to the DOC through this chain.

KAINZ
09-17-2012, 02:17 PM
a lil help...... is there still pre-release????? and if not what r they doing. i need to read & learn more. if pre-release still was ineffect we would be headed there but no not now!! all help on this please because they are not telling him a thing inside or tell me when i call!!

thanks

bobble60
09-22-2012, 01:43 PM
Under Act 111, pre-release was eliminated for anyone whose minimum date is after May 31,2013. Those already in centers will remain there. those already approved for centers will be sent. All others will be denied.

We've heard some very preliminary information about a new transition program inside the fence at some prisons, but we haven't been given any real information. Stay tuned.

Anointed42
03-27-2013, 09:50 AM
My fiance is at sci dallas , does anyone no when the hold on prelease will be lifted?

christik999
03-27-2013, 08:10 PM
My fiance is at sci dallas , does anyone no when the hold on prelease will be lifted?

its not a hold they ended the program it no longer exists . unless the lawmakers decided to enact a new law and then it still would be a new program prerelease is gone im sorry