Many of you here know my ex-boyfriend is an addict. His drug of choice, whatever he can get his hands on, except weed. I have never seen him smoke pot.

I recently met this new guy, who's only drug of choice is pot. He doesn't drink, doesn't do pills, has a good job, pays his bills on time, goes to work everyday.

So tell me how many of you think smoking pot is a bad thing?

I do.

I personally know a very intelligent young lady who had the world at her feet. She started smoking pot and still does. She dropped out of HS her senior year....she had always planned to be a nurse, had good grades, lots of friends. She still lives at home 2 years later, no diploma, no GED...nothing. She worked at the Dollar Store and the Skating Ring for a while last year, but that's about it. Her only friends are other "pot-heads". She looks terrible, never has any energy.....she is wasting her life.

Addiction is addiction be it meth, crack, alcohol or pot.

Monique,

Good point!

However, this is a guy who is in his late 30's, gets up every day at 6:00 a.m., goes to work every day and is well established. I've seen him go weeks without smoking pot.

Is there such a thing as weekend warriors when it comes to getting high?

That I do not know. I do know people who have been week-end Alcoholics for many years and it has never seemed to affect their work life, etc. However one drowned while fishing drunk and two others have major health problems.

Health problems could be an issue here. Careless is another. I know usually when he smokes, he just goes straight to bed. I think he uses it almost as a wind down from a hectic day.

Has anyone ever heard of someone OD from pot? I mean regular pot?

I think everyone reacts differently from it, I've seen some be complete idiots and irresponsible while they are high and have seen other lead completely successful lives.
Bottom line though, it's still illegal. That's my issue more than anything.

But if it's not interfering with his responsibilities in life or your relationship, then it's up to you...

Never heard of anybody overdosing from it though.

all i can say is god made pot and man made beer........who do you trust?????

rebswar,

You sound like him! He says it's natural and comes right out of the ground. He's says the indians smoke tobacco and weed, they didn't label it differently, the politicians did.

God made the cocoa leaf, poppy plant and womens plumbing also. Sometimes even our higher power makes mistakes. To me, back in the day when I was playing, the THC level was around 20%, it's now upwards of 75%, and no longer as easy to just say I'm done. BBG, I think you need to take a deep look into yourself and figure out why you are attracted to guys with substance problems.

Shelby,

It's that damn co-dependency with me and trust me it's just not those with substance problems!!! *LOL*

I do not see any problem with pot, other than it is illegal. Shelby eluded to the fact that God makes Cocoa and poppies also. This is true. But, both of those things are chemically altered to attain the end product. Pot on the other hand is totally unaltered. I am not trying to start a debate here. But, I think you would be surprised if you knew how many people really smoke pot.

First it is illegal, and anything that can get you jammed up is a bad thing. Second most pot doesn’t come from your local neighborhood hippie grower anymore. It comes from Mexican drug cartels and the same chaps who bring ice into your homes and neighborhoods. Giving these people money for anything is morally speaking abhorrent.

However, I, years ago mind you, use to grow a lot of pot for my cancer and AIDS patients. If your boyfriend had these conditions or others which only pot will help, I say light er’ up.

Personally, I think it stinks and all it ever did for me is make me vomit and think people were in the bushes outside my window. Besides that it is a monumental waste of money, which he could be spending on you instead:rolleyes:

Yes, it is a bad thing.. it is a drug.. no better than anything else in my books... plus I have seen many people who start out smoking pot then it leads into other drugs for them...

I don't think pot is a bad thing but like anything, you can abuse it. Sounds like this man is not out running amok or getting into trouble. Some people have a few cocktails to unwind after work, he smokes a joint. As long as he doesn't let it interfere with the rest of his life I don't think it's a big deal but it is illegal so you need to decide if you want to be around something that could land you in jail.

Smoking pot, recreationally (and definitely for medical reasons) is probably okay. The only thing is, where you get the pot, there are probably other drugs available too...and all of them are illegal. Until it is legalized for all usage, you have to face the fact you possibly could get caught. Who wants to go to jail for a joint or two in the evening after work...if the police ride up just as you are getting your little stash?

OK to me weed is ok... it is made out of the earth and natural.. but the chemicals they spray on it isnt... Yes weed is an addiction, just like drinking, just like sex, just like pretty much everything you do to excess is an addiction.. I just came out of a program for drugs so thats really not a issue for me.. However if i were still a addict i would chose smoking over anything out there...... Drinking is why my ole man is facing prison time... not weed....

it is a good thing. Better than alcohol for you, thats for sure. American drug policy is stupid. Do the research.

If your body is exposed to 420 chemicals when you smoke marijuana, how is that better for you than alcohol? Marijuana today is at least ten times stronger than it was in the 60's and 70's, and it does tremendous damage to the lungs with constant use, more than tobacco does. Anything to excess is bad for the body, whether it be caffeine, nicotine, marijuana, or alcohol, or even too much of the wrong food...there is the key>>> Anything to excess; is not good.

keytwo..what exactly are u talking about... i am kinda confused...

Gotta be honest here. After living with an addict whose drug of choice was everything except for weed. I don't see smoking weed on occassion a bad thing.

Everything is bad when done in excess!

Moderation is the key.

So if this guy wants to get a few hits every week, I think I can live with that. Most importantly, he doesn't ever do it in front of me, after knowing what I just came out of. Now that's RESPECT!!!

Everything is bad when overdone, yes. And I have a nutty little theory of my own that says that the more processed a substance becomes (coca leaf to powder to crack, for example) the more harmful.
With the airwaves full of commercials for Ambien and Zanax and a gaqjillion other LEGAL chemicals, I don't think it's the government's or anybody's business if somebody likes to take a few tokes here and there. (Which by the way also relates to the question of increased potency. More powerful grass yes, but sensible people don't pig out on it)

American policy allows deadly drugs to be legalized through the FDA because drug and tobacco companies pay good lobbying money. Marijuana has not caused any deaths. Countries where drugs are legalized has less crime. American policy creates higher prices for drugs and over crowds our prisons unnecessarily.

Being a former child of the 60's I have to say it pot was legal I would use it. People do abuse pot and if they didn't have pot they would abuse something else because that is what they are. I don't abuse alcohol but I do drink, I would not abuse pot but if legal I would use it.

As a teenager of the 70's I have to chime in here and say that I too see absolutely nothing wrong w/casual use of pot. I'm not talking about it being the main driving force of your day, but taking a toke or two or even three in the evenings is not tantamount to being a pot head.
I have seen both sides of the fence where a friend could not smoke occasionally without having to do every drug she could get her hands on. She was the proverbial, one is too many, 10 is not enough. I have other friends that are like your friend, they are an occasional user, they hold down a job, pay their bills, own homes, etc, etc....Everything a citizen is supposed to do except for the fact that they get high every now and then.
I personally would much rather smoke than drink. I don't have any statistics, but I would like to know what they are when you look at the number of people arrested for DUI. Are the numbers higher for alcohol or marijuana. I know if I was a gambling person, I'd say the numbers would be higher for alcohol.
Anyway, sounds like he is an okay guy to me. JMO

I've seen crackheads steal
I've seen drunks beat the crap outta people for almost nothin
I've seen heroin addicts cravings

pot smokers I have seen have never done anything but tell stupid jokes laugh their butts off and eat till they can burst


saying it's illegal is just silly in my mind to use as any reasoning

alcohol was too but eventually became available and has caused a lotta deaths since then and too many other issues to mention but since it is legal not everyone has a problem now consuming too much

someone who hits a joint a few times a week or day and can still carry on and do good should be left out of the concern for our society's demise

So tell me how many of you think smoking pot is a bad thing?

Bishop Supreme Sam Putney has coined the term "GOOD or GOODIE" when "refer"ring to pot. :p

So if it is good to the Bishop it is good to me. :thumbsup:

As a teenager of the 70's I have to chime in here and say that I too see absolutely nothing wrong w/casual use of pot. I'm not talking about it being the main driving force of your day, but taking a toke or two or even three in the evenings is not tantamount to being a pot head.
I have seen both sides of the fence where a friend could not smoke occasionally without having to do every drug she could get her hands on. She was the proverbial, one is too many, 10 is not enough. I have other friends that are like your friend, they are an occasional user, they hold down a job, pay their bills, own homes, etc, etc....Everything a citizen is supposed to do except for the fact that they get high every now and then.
I personally would much rather smoke than drink. I don't have any statistics, but I would like to know what they are when you look at the number of people arrested for DUI. Are the numbers higher for alcohol or marijuana. I know if I was a gambling person, I'd say the numbers would be higher for alcohol.
Anyway, sounds like he is an okay guy to me. JMO

Les, I totally agree with you here. In my opinion, marijuana should be legalized. Will it happen? I used to think so, and perhaps it will be soon. As long as you are not using it constantly, like chain smoking cigarettes, I see nothing wrong with it. It has benefited many medically as well. This is what I meant above by using it to excess...but your normal every day working person who occassionally takes a toke or two or three is okay in my opinion.

Never heard of any one waking up with a hangover or withdrawals from smoking pot.

Just my opionion

LOL, true Billy'sBabyGirl....me either( at least not yet)..maybe the munchies?

Pot is different than it was 30 years ago. And so is Coke, and shit crack didn't even really exists back then. But Pot is still the safest thing out there.

And it used to just make me tired as hell. All my friends would get the munchies and I would just want to go to sleep. Maybe that's why I never did it for any long period. Who wants to go to sleep when there's a party going on?

Pot is different than it was 30 years ago. And so is Coke, and shit crack didn't even really exists back then. But Pot is still the safest thing out there.

And it used to just make me tired as hell. All my friends would get the munchies and I would just want to go to sleep. Maybe that's why I never did it for any long period. Who wants to go to sleep when there's a party going on?

This thread is taking me back, way back, to better and bygone days. I did have some good ol' high times. :D

Carefree summer days of riding around with my friends, going to different parties, meeting good looking suntanned boys, smoking good 'ol kickass mexican dirt weed. Listening to Led Zeppelin, Nazareth, Boston, Foreigner, Queen, Foghat, I could go on and on........Those were the days.:p

I love Queen ! LOL

Nothing wrong with weed, I'm sure some day it will be legalized.

Many of you here know my ex-boyfriend is an addict. His drug of choice, whatever he can get his hands on, except weed. I have never seen him smoke pot.

I recently met this new guy, who's only drug of choice is pot. He doesn't drink, doesn't do pills, has a good job, pays his bills on time, goes to work everyday.

So tell me how many of you think smoking pot is a bad thing? my drug of choice is weed. i am also bi polar and marijuana and lithium are the only drugs that help. in calif. prescriptions are available and that helps get around the law but possession in CA is a fine.(no jail time) over the years i have used many drugs and pot was not a contributing factor in my incarceration. as a matter of fact.....if i had limited my drug use to only weed i would have been fine. alocohol and speed were my downfalls. im all for the decriminalization of marijuana.

I've seen alot of people who smoke pot and to be honest with you I'd much rather be around a 'pot-head' than a drunk anyday! Most people who drink get mouthy and want to fight, people who smoke pot are just the opposite. You hear about drunk drivers killing people everyday. When I was a senior in high school I smoked pot everyday! I graduated with a 3.3 GPA, got a scholorship, and was working two jobs! I quit smoking pot and a few years later I started having signs of congestive heart failure and had to be put on a medicine to slow my heart down, I should have stuck with the pot. The medicine I'm on states that if you stop taking it all at once puts you at high risk for a heart attack.......GREAT! I didn't have to worry about that before either! But that pill is legal......if thats what you want to call it!

I don't smoke anything--quit tobacco in 1985 and my two or three exposures to "weed" were some time before that (and yes, I did inhale). I really think it's all a matter of moderation. Someone who has a beer on a hot afternoon is just relaxing. Someone like me who has that beer and proceeds to empty a case has a problem (mind, I speak from the point of view of having been sober for some time).

I've known more than one person who has a "secret garden" and indulges periodically. I see nothing wrong with it. One helped a friend who had major nausea from chemotherapy and I am eternally grateful to her. If someone wants to have a smoke or two just as someone else might have a beer or two, I truly have no quarrel with them (our government, alas, is not so understanding). If all they did was lay around all day smoking with (insert weird rock band of your choice here) on headphones, I'd say they had a problem.

As an alcoholic, I've spent my share of time visiting detox centers, first as a client, later to talk with clients and hopefully brighten their day a bit. I've seen some people in pretty rough shape. But not one of them was there as the result of smoking marijuana.

In a nation which to my knowledge still subsidizes the growing of tobacco, it seems to me that there is no more reason for outlawing marijuana than there would be for placing restrictions on the sale of anything containing caffeine.

Oh, there's a reason. They can't profit from secret gardens the way they can from Xanax and Ambien. (You didn't say anything about a GOOD reason.)

A very good point. Though if marijuana was commercially packaged and sold legally, I imagine everyone could tax the hell out of it as they do everything else. A number of states over the years HAVE issued marijuana tax stamps, mainly so that they could charge those found in possession of "the dope" with tax evasion. My understanding is that they have found quite a following among stamp collectors.

all i can say is god made pot and man made beer........who do you trust?????
GOD ALSO MADE POISON.

POISON-POT THEY BOTH FOUL UP YOUR LIFE.

GOD ALSO MADE POISON.

POISON-POT THEY BOTH FOUL UP YOUR LIFE.

I don't think anybody here is trying to say that pot does not have the potential to lead to problems. The vast majority who have posted in this thread seem to believe that moderation is the key, as it is in all things.

Pot, as ANY other substance that is abused can foul up a life.

Okay, if smoking pot was such a bad thing than why was it legal back in the early days? The only reason politicians made it illegal is becasue they cant put a tax on it, like they can everything else. If you cant tax it than its illegal.

God also made clouds and rainbows and rain and stars and the moon and our capacity to love and geez you would think I had been smoking it.LMAO

Just for the record so no one gets on their high horse. I absolutely do not smoke pot nor do I encourage it's use as long as it is an illegal substance. The above was said in jest!

Marijuana was prohibited in the 1920 's. If you are going back to earlier days before that, its because science had not studied it , nor had the government gotten actively involved.....yet. Sure they want their cut too I am afraid, which has been mentioned here also. Again, I will say that any drug to excess is what causes problems.... and that includes presciption drugs as well!!

I think anytime people use anything- WHATEVER, could be shopping trips- to medicate emotional/spiritual pain on a long term basis, they are headed for trouble. The pain is there for a reason, to be faced and dealt with.

I used to smoke that stuff for years. I couldn't go thru the day without it. I would get up in the morning get high, drive myself to work and about 3 hrs into the shift i was ready for ym lunch break so i could get high and then back to work and as soon as i am leavin work i am getting high again. then once i got home i would get high before i ate dinner and before i went to sleep. It was a a daily rountine 4 me. and if i didnt have any I would be so mad and frustrated. I did this for like 5 years and finally i got pulled over and went to jail for possession, and i realized my problem sitting in jail for all those months. When i got out i didn't smoke the stuff and i still haven't so i have been clean since 2001. I may ge the urge but i go without it. One of my freinds get high and she does it all day and her life is nothing but smoking yea she has a job, but after work she just wants to get high. She never wants to do anything so that bothers me. So i have ended my friendship with her cause i feel I can not be around someone that just does that all day. Besides i know the consequences. I don't think it is wrong but maybe people should do it in moderation. I never knew how many professionals smoked the stuff!!

Again, Moderation is the key here. My ex-husband does not smoke weed in moderation. And yes he found out the consequences yesterday when he lost job.

The new guy does it in moderation.

As long as we are talking what was legal and what isn't anymore... Cocaine used to be in Coca Cola, and my mom can remember doctors giving it to her back in the 30's. We all know how addictive that can be.

So again, how bad is weed? The government can't tax it. Which makes it bad, you lose brain cells, which makes it bad. But for every minute of stress you loose 5 minutes of your memory.

Again, MODERATION!

I live in Oregon, where almost anyone over the age of 18 can apply for a medical use marijuana permit. Here, weed is very much a part of the culture and is looked at more like alcohol. Even if you do not have a card, so many people use it, under an ounce is a misdemeanor. Cops will usually let you keep your pipe and weed if they catch you and you don't have a card.

So, my own personal opinion is it is fine if you a grown adult and use responsibly. My opinion on alcohol is that it is 10 times worse than weed. Think about our society and what would happen if all the alcoholics started smoking weed. we would have so much less violence, especially less car accidents.

my problem with it is that out of all the smoker's i know everyone of them at some time went on to do other drugs, then for one reason or another came back to only smoking weed..

I've never seen a single person that started smoking weed and NEVER used and other type drug...

Like i said, i know many that started smoking, ended up using other drugs and came back to ONLY smoking weed...i think the whole Gate-way drug thing is true...

I however wish it was legal, and if it was, i'd be a smoker!!!

Alcohol is legal yet it kills you and ruins families, cigarrettes are legal yet they kill you, weed smoking not legal ,yet its harmless, more harmless then coffee. I know many functioning weed smokers. I see nothing wrong with it. All the weed smokers i know have good jobs making good money, are great parents, and really down to earth.

I used to smoke pot, but I was unable to function "normally" in my opinon so I quit. But I dont think its harmful, some people I know being diagnosed with ADD or ADHD actually function better because it calms them down to where a "normal" person would be. I would say I worry that it may lead to using other drugs, but Im not sure about that because some people choose to go to other drugs and others dont. But like said before some people would be shocked to really know how many around us do smoke pot.

i think it is helpful to people who would otherwise be taking pain meds. that is why they have the law in Oregon, so people can use it as a natural muscle relaxer. it also helps with appetite when people are suffering from nasaeu from other meds.

BUT I do agree that getting high and also the part of having to purchase the weed and be around other people that smoke it can lead to harder drugs. Like a lot of things- some can do it moderation and others aren't able to function. I think it;s just sad and wrong that people go to prison over having their own personal stash.

I totally agree. I also think it's only bad for someone who does it everyday all day long and they live paycheck to paycheck for it. I know because I use to be that way. I still smoke occasionally but it's very rare. The only thing it leads to is the munchies not other drugs.. People lead people to other drugs.

That is exactly why they don't legalize it but if they were smart enough they would do it like they do tobacco.

I beleive they should make alcohol illegal because it kills more people then weed does... How many cases of death or accidents do you hear about someone smoking a joint and driving?? Now how many from alcohol?? Enough said??? I think so.

I don't think anybody here is trying to say that pot does not have the potential to lead to problems. The vast majority who have posted in this thread seem to believe that moderation is the key, as it is in all things.

Pot, as ANY other substance that is abused can foul up a life.

Exactly! I couldn't have said it better myself.

Weed should be legal in my opinion. Tax the crap out of it & get rid of the dealers so our kids don't get started on it or other drugs. I have smoked it for 20 years now w/no problems. I go to work faithfully & pay my bills faithfully. Its all about priorities. I would like to call myself a recreational user, but after 20 years that would be a lie. Did it lead me to other drugs over the years - NO!!! People led me to the other stuff which destroyed me at one time in my life. Alcohol is far worse.......

I have personally never used it. Fiance said he never has either..but don't really believe much of what he says...

I wouldn't do it because it's illegal. if it was legal, I'd definitely try it!
My fiance is an alcoholic, and abusing that IS legal, as long as you don't drive...Makes me wish pot was his vice instead...then he would have been home, stoned, and eating cheetos, instead of rip-roaring drunk, and out tearing up golf courses and public statues....

I think people really overlook the damage that weed/pot can do, as so often it gets considered as not being a 'bad' or serious drug, just a casual thing. I really disagree. I think that this very fact makes it potentially a lot more damaging.

Weed works in a more subtle way and so the users don't always notice the negative impact it's having on their lives, or at least not until 5/10/15 years of their life has been wasted.

I know quite a few people that smoke weed, but I'm primarily thinking of an ex boyfriend whose motivation for life (ie. just getting up and doing things, making plans, going out etc) just the ability of being able to enjoy things lessened and lessened. It gets to where weed is the thing you most look foward to, and at the end of the day other things don't really matter. The other main problem with it is that it causes paranoia. This is gradual aswell, but can get to the stage, as with my ex, where you just have a negative/pessimistic take on everything, like a general background paranoia about everything.
Having a joint on a Saturday night, or at a party or something is no big deal, but I think if it becomes a regular thing - a habit- then it's not a positive thing. This is only my opinion obviously, but it's based on a fair bit of experience. :)

I have never used but my ex did and I have to say yeah he was mellow, quiet and not violent when high but he was also at some points so flipping spacey that he had issues talking to me thats a problem. At least to me. As far as the rest of the population whatever floats your boat its just not my thing...

Yes, it is a bad thing.. it is a drug.. no better than anything else in my books... plus I have seen many people who start out smoking pot then it leads into other drugs for them...

coming from a former inmate free now after almost 8 yrs. seen weed inside day in day out and out in the street i am still seeing it i say YES bad, badbad. i am not trying to even use any drugs and that IS a drug.

like a close lady tell me all the time A CLEAR MIND IS A FOCUS MIND..
A CLEAN BODY IS THE BEST BODY....

i am staying CLEAN NOW and forever.:thumbsup: ( the best way to be!)

yes it is a bad thing and pot is the " gateway" drug remember?? it leads to harder drugs eventually!!!

Just a rhetorical question: if marijuana "leads to harder stuff", why is it that caffeine, tobacco, and alcohol do not?

For the record, I find the drug culture deeply troubling, but the drug trafficking and attendant crime we have now is virtually identical to that experience by the United States during Prohibition. In fact, plenty of folks turned to (then-legal) marijuana as an alternative to illegal alcohol during that period.

My ex boyfriend was also very sucessful, and yes he liked his pot. He was great at his job and had a clear head every morning. At night, he did his little wind down, but it was in small amounts, kind of like having a drink, not ten of them. He was sensible and fun, and we had alot of fun when he smoked. I never needed to smoke, as the air got me silly. I drink wine, and I think, id rather burn pot like one does insence:D. Wine can be wonderful, but very dangerous if one has too much. The next day one says to self, did self really do that??? Alcohol versus pot? Hmmmmmmmmm...........
Alcohol causes alot of people to become aggresive and violent, but pot causes most to become calm and at worst very silly. I dont smoke pot, but I wish it were legal to do so.

When my children were growing up I did my best to make sure they weren't doing drugs but they did it behind my back, still do today I'm sure of it. They have seen their troubles with the law over DWI's and a couple have been busted for a joint or 2. But I'd vote to let them smoke their pot instead of tippin the bottle because they have got into alot less trouble being stoned. Those boys of mine get to drinking and even I'm scared because they don't think or believe they are bulletproof. Smoking they just all sort of set around laughing and eventually eat everything put in front of them and fall asleep. I guess none of it is right but I believe pot to be the lesser evil where my family is involved.

Burdened and many others - I am 100% with you. I know many very successful people personally who smoke quite regularily. Alcohol has far greater side effects.

And pot isn't a gateway drug. There are MANY MANY of us out there who believe that ANYTHING chemical is a 100% NO NO. Many smoke pot and NEVER do anything else.

Used to smoke pot.. ALOT. It is a bad drug. It has many more "effects" than people would like to beleive.

I used to smoke pot to and I don't believe it always has negative side effects - I graduated high school and got a college degree while smoking pot. I also do not believe it is a guarenteed gateway drug - for some, maybe, but not in everyone. I have seen a lot more pain and hurt come from alcohol than pot. My personal opinion - as long as you are in the comfort of your own home and not hurting yourself or anyone else - it's no one's business what you choose to do to relax.

I don't do it myself but my husband did and I think it is and adult's own decision.
It certainly should be controlled and away from children though.

I hear ya, theres always a great debate about 'pot'. I remember everyone having heartattacks over it when our men were coming home from Vietnam and still are today. I believe if the goverment had a way to get the market on it and was able to apply taxes they would make it legal today. As you know it is legal in some states today for medical reasons. With the way the world is changing today I honestly believe that my children will see it become legal before they die because eventually the goverment will figure out they can make money off it and too many people believe its okay now. I never said its right in my post, I just voted yes to it instead of my family out drinking, driving and becoming bulletproof when confronted by the police. My kids believe they have me snowballed into believing they have sinus problems and thats why their eyes are red from time to time but I know. I'd rather see then laughing and getting along rather then out causing chaos because they had too much whiskey.

i smoke pot, and i work full time at a very good job , i raise 3 kids, new car and house. i do not believe it is bad for anyone. it is not a gateway drug !!! some may use that excuse but in all reality pot is pot. if you choose to move on to harder things then that is what u do it has nothing to do with smoking weed.

Since I'm a recovering addict, pot is an absolute no-no for me. If I had to say which I have seen do more harm, pot or alcohol, I would say absolutely alcohol. I've got a live and let live attitude towards others use of any substance, as long as it doesn't directly affect me. I went down the road too far to ever be able to stand in judgment of others. I did have one terrible experience with the effects of pot. I was a corporate trainer in a large manufacturing company. The night shift had a habit of slipping out the back door to smoke pot on their meal break and management was turning a blind eye, because these guys got their job done. One night one of them got their sleeve caught in some heavy equipment and the others had a very slow response time. The man lost his arm. People from other parts of the building, who were not high, reacted more quickly and saved his life, but not the arm. I do think that reaction time is really affected and that in times of emergency, while driving for example, those slowed reflexes can cause major problems.

Well sounds like your guy shopping and you hope hes just smoking weed, man you should be looking for a guy who dosent do anything at all, well if he just smokes weed thats cool ,but weed still is against the law you know??? thats what got me in this dang perdickerment!!!

Alcohol fucks up many lives, at least from what I have seen. I plan on never touching a drop again. Pot on the other hand, is just wonderful. The only problem I have with it is that it is illegal. Maybe it's time to move to Amsterdam. Haha.

I think for most people pot is OK but for me it was poison. I smoked daily too much for too many years. It had a controlling affect on me like no other drug. I was able to give all other drugs including alcohol with no problem. The day I gave up smoking weed 5 years ago was like 9 11 and pearl harbor all in one. It's a day that I will never forget because I had smoked daily for over 25 years. Also I would like to mention that high grade weed is more addictive than regular pot. It started with Columbian gold and Tai weed in the 70s. In the eighties it was skunk and northern lights and in the 90s it was the hydro which comes in many flavors.

I still have dreams but the craving is over and done with. I call it my 25 year mistake

Having said all this I still believe weed should be legal

Many of you here know my ex-boyfriend is an addict. His drug of choice, whatever he can get his hands on, except weed. I have never seen him smoke pot.

I recently met this new guy, who's only drug of choice is pot. He doesn't drink, doesn't do pills, has a good job, pays his bills on time, goes to work everyday.

So tell me how many of you think smoking pot is a bad thing?

Well, it depends on how much, for me. I dated a guy who liked to smoke a little each evening. Not a big deal to me if he's responsible in all areas of his life and it doesn't turn him into a couch potato.

I like to have one alcoholic beverage in the evening to wind down.

But if it's affecting his motivation, memory, he never wants to go out and do anything, would rather stay in and smoke....I wouldn't like that.

For me it is not something that I do, nor would date anyone who does it.
JMHO

I think it is bad for homeland security

If it's bad for Homeland Security, it's good for the United States.

I can really identify with what Packman said. In my case, the drug involved was alcohol. Messed me up pretty good for a while. Fortunately, I was able to get away from it and believe my life to be far better for it. But there's no way I'd advocate further restrictions on the sale of alcohol.

No I dont think weed is a terrible thing. I personally do not like it. I dont do it, but my boyfriend does. In Detroit, they dont really enforce laws on small amounts: personal supply. I personally know my boyfriend has gotten stopped and the police would take his weed and his money and let him go. Yeah, its a MESS.

I personally know my boyfriend has gotten stopped and the police would take his weed and his money and let him go. Yeah, its a MESS.

WOW! I can half way understand not bringing charges for a small amount of drugs (I'm sure most people would appreciate that) and maybe I can see not letting them go on their way with the drugs. BUT what happens to the drugs when they are taken. AND taking money without bringing charges....oh my! What happens to that money? Is it just pure corruption and the police are just helping themselves to what ever they want? That is very scarey to me!

Myself, I started smoking again not long after my husband returned to prison. I guess I could rush out to the doctor and get some depression drugs but instead I decided to just mellow out with some smoke. To each their own I say but I'd rather set around smiling then get drunk and make a total azz of myself. I figure what the heck, no one cares what I do anyway.

haha Dave Moff, good one. I agree!

I'm against all drugs when used illegally or abused.

If it's bad for Homeland Security, it's good for the United States.

I can really identify with what Packman said. In my case, the drug involved was alcohol. Messed me up pretty good for a while. Fortunately, I was able to get away from it and believe my life to be far better for it. But there's no way I'd advocate further restrictions on the sale of alcohol.

I cannot say this any better. Ditto!

Patti

they say you cant get hooked on pot.
but after smoking for the oast 6 years
& having to quit due to probation=drug test

ive noticed a lack in everything.
nothing is "fun" anymore.
i dont have the energy to go & hang with friends.
might i add im bipolar & that was how i chose to self medicate

ive realized i cant do that anymore.
i will be seeing a doctor & be put on meds.

as much as i miss pot i know it held me down
i dropped out of school in the 10th grade.
since ive gotten my ged.
but it saddens me to know i let me dreams go

i still wish i could smoke & ive thought about what to do when i get off of probation (in 3-6 months) after going w/o it that long id like to stay away but my friends all smoke. so i guess its a matter of what means more to you. being with a bunch of dopeheads or moving on with your life & becoming somebody :)

"Amotivational Syndrome" was hypothesized as a long term effect of marijuana use -- that is, it was supposed to be an effect which occured among people who smoke pot, not when they were stoned, but all the time.

...Slikker, Paule, et al. set out to find the effects of marijuana smoke on the brain, memory, learning, and motivation. They found that monkees who smoked even just on weekends did not develop normal clinical motivation -- defined by the willingness to work for reward. The studies concentrated on adolescense specifically for this reason, and were extremely well controlled.
Does this mean that kids who smoke marijuana are lazy? Probably not. Rhesus monkees are very similar to humans, though, and it is very likely, especially given the previous empirical evidence, that smoking marijuana during adolescense will temporarily impair specific types of motivational development. The effect is permanantly reversible and normal motivational development can be obtained by a 3-12 month period of abstinance (in monkeys -- no time period for humans is available.)

...Among the other things Slikker found which we can be very excited about was no brain or cellular damage, an actual stimulation of brain cell development by marijuana smoking (which would fit with the current knowlege of increased alpha wave activity and blood flow while stoned), no permanant effects on memory or mental capacity, and lots of good reasons why marijuana should be more thoroughly researched rather than feared.

...read the study -- it is very useful.

anything unnatural is harmful to your body.and weed is unnatural.i struggle with it everyday but i could be struggling with worse-i take it a day at a time.

My son is in prison due to drugs, pot is illegal here and he didn't do well with pot or anything else so I would say no. But then I am totally against drugs period. Even legal ones when they are abused.
Have a dear friend going through this now and there is no hope. One day he will not wake up. Hate to say it but look at Ann Nicole Smith and her son and all the others. They did not overdose on methadone alone. Don't mean to offend anyone but if they can't give up pot and are in prison then I personally don't see a lot of chance for them when they are out. You have to learn to live life and being chemed up does not get it unless you have to have it for medical purposes. I refuse to make excuses for my son. He is living drug free now and it will be up to him where his freedom means enough to him to do it out.

I think its a bad thing

to each its own if ya like to blaze or not...

Marihuana I think is no different than alcohol, it is a mind, or mood altering substance. It does not give most a hangover like alcohol, and I'm of the persausion that it should be taxed and sold like alcohol.. Tobacco, and alcohol have caused more grief than the weed ever has.

I myself do not mess with any drugs or alcohol. I feel it is to each's own, just as long as you "DO NOT" bring it to my "HOME" or do it around my "CHILDREN". What ever floats "YOUR BOAT"!!!

it is still addiction ...how many "normies" have a "drug of choice"???

Just say NO!!!!!

Marihuana I think is no different than alcohol, it is a mind, or mood altering substance. It does not give most a hangover like alcohol, and I'm of the persausion that it should be taxed and sold like alcohol.. Tobacco, and alcohol have caused more grief than the weed ever has.

No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose, either.

Did it lead me to other drugs over the years - NO!!! People led me to the other stuff which destroyed me at one time in my life. Alcohol is far worse.......

Cop out and you know it~~~~~

You did what you did to destroy your own life...

Taking responsibility is the first step...

Lexi74

I don't like the way pot makes me feel, so I don't bother with it anymore. I used to try to like it when I was in high school because I wanted to fit in...:rolleyes:

My fiance doesn't like it either. It makes him paranoid, as it does me.

Each of the two times we have smoked it together, we have come to the same conclusions:

•it makes us think we have a flat tire, thusly making us pull over on the side of the road to check, and recheck - run around the car a few times checking... checking... driving 2 more miles... OMG do you think we have a flat tire? Do you hear that? Checking...

Not worth that. OMG SO ANNOYING. It took us 2 hours to go 45 miles down the road. LOL

•we get more irritable, and argue more. Over dumb shit.

So, do I think pot is bad?

No. Not in and of itself. I truly believe that it depends on the person and what their objectives in life are. If someone smokes up a little, doesn't do any other drugs, doesn't expose their children to it, pays their bills, leads a productive life... then what harm (aside from short term memory loss and lung damage) can it really do?

Just my:twocents:

I feel that anything, when abused, is bad. When a substance becomes the center of someone's life, then there's a problem, even if that substance is legal, i.e. - alcohol.

I feel that anything, when abused, is bad. When a substance becomes the center of someone's life, then there's a problem, even if that substance is legal, i.e. - alcohol.
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Well said. Obsessions are what do people in, whether it is a drug or the need to control other people or a heavy gambling thing or what EVER. And the current Corporate State of Affairs feeds off of people's obsessions.
Personally I enjoy the sensation of a little THC, but you cracked me up with that tire changing bit:)

I feel that anything, when abused, is bad. When a substance becomes the center of someone's life, then there's a problem, even if that substance is legal, i.e. - alcohol.
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Well said. Obsessions are what do people in, whether it is a drug or the need to control other people or a heavy gambling thing or what EVER. And the current Corporate State of Affairs feeds off of people's obsessions.
Personally I enjoy the sensation of a little THC, but you cracked me up with that tire changing bit:)


ohhh if you could have only seen it. It was like any time we'd hear a sound, automatically we thought it was a flat. So out one of us would go to check and recheck and recheck.

I bet if someone else saw it, they would have thought we were playing a game or something. lol:p

Being an old flower child, hippie, teen of the early 70s ~ yeah, I'm old ~ I would have said smoking pot is no big deal a few years ago. It grew wild where I lived and I used to play in marijuana fields when I was a kid, before I knew what it was. I was even waiting for it to become medicinally legal to help me with chronic migraines since nothing else but unconciousness seems to help the pain.

But not any more. Not since going through my son's drug addiction and incarceration. How pot was the first drug, but not the last drug, he tried. How it started his downward spiral and connected him to people who had access to far worse. Not since realizing the manner in which it comes into our country, the other crimes that go with it ~ murder, guns, cutting it with other really bad drugs, etc.

The way the drug world is right now ~ it is a bad thing. No one knows if they will be the addict ~ if pot is just the first step of many. No one knows if they will be the one that has to go a little further, has to try something else. And if we buy it and smoke it, then who and what are we supporting?

I have learned to hate drugs ~ all of them. Even prescription drugs. Even the ones I have to take to function and survive. I know that makes me a hipocrit and I hate that too. The fact that I have to depend on them irks me to no end. The difference is I could stop them at anytime without withdrawal problems, but I would probably drop dead.

Okay, off the soap box now. I hate drugs ~ they have destroyed so many people, many whom I love.

And yep, back in the day I toked a few. Hippocrit, I know.

all i can say is god made pot and man made beer........who do you trust?????

Amen!! :thumbsup:

Everyone has their weapon of choice. EVERYONE has an addiction. This can be debated all day. See, where my problem stands with drugs is.. what the drugs make you do. Narcotics have you doing all types of things because your really not yourself. Marijuana,pure marijuana will only have you stuck in one place with the munchies. Marijuana I see is harmless. Asprins are harmless too, but if you take 13 of them, that will be the last headache you will ever have:D

Haswtch,
From one journo to another, you're my kinda woman!

Asides aside, I know people who go chronic, and can't get through the day without a puff or four. I know, I used to be that chick. It didn't help that I had the bomb hookups and my bf was the local dopeman.

However, after realizing I was dreaming my life away I kicked that habit, and delved into what was causing me to abuse pot. It wasn't easy and there are days I would kill for a joint, but there's no damn way I'm letting some dried up plant parts control my life anymore. ;)

All to say, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with marijuana. You just gotta know how to handle your business...

Passionately against it. Like Briansma I have seen the effects of drugs on friends and loved ones and I hate it. You can't predict how it will affect you until it has, the growing and selling of it is exploitative and people being people the greed will always win.

Even those of us who don't want it in our lives are affected by it. Unless you are a hermit you are going to have to deal with drug takers and the consequences of their actions while under the influence such as dangerous driving or careless pedestrians. How many steal to get money to buy drugs? I could go on, I ain't a scientist or a statistician so I don't know what the exact effects are on the brain and nervous system or how many $ are spent on rehab, public works, insurance etc or how many accidents are caused through drug users but my gut feeling says it is bad for you, bad for the environment, bad for the economy and bad for children who have to depend on drug addicted parents.

Morina

Beware of what might be mixed with the pot. My cousin was a dealer. I say was because he is locked up for attempted murder. He was lacing his drugs with other stuff. He would sneak much more addictive drugs into a less addictive drug to increase his client base. A guy almost overdosed because he dipped his weed in embalming fluid and somthing else ( not sure) the guy's girl was able to show the police where he purchased the drugs from and wham.

One more thing that would disappear if marijuana were legalized and produced to FDA standards.

I hate any kind of DRUGS, People just don't realize it goes to something bigger. I would say our Prison are over flowing because of crime commited by Drug use. They need help. But they want get it. So they do it over and over. How sad on familys and the person who does this.
They have to want it for their self.

well from where i sit,he could be doing worse.

As far as pot goes, I've also heard that the THC level is much higher now, but I don't know how that actually happened. Is it like the days of the paraquat scare? Do the Mexican drug cartels treat it or dust it or something? How do they make it stronger? Also, I think it's interesting to consider other factors, such as the developmental age of the smoker and genetic factors, such as inheritance of a sensitivity to dopamine, in relation to whether pot smoking becomes an addiction or not. My youngest son seems to be addicted to pot, whereas my older sons have both used it experimentally before and they don't seem to have all the problems the youngest son has.

Anybody aware of the addiction science related to today's form of marijuana?

As I understand it, the THC content of marijuana has gone up steadily. This is due to people breeding "more powerful" plants, using better growing methods and fertilizers, etc.

Marijuana is now the largest cash crop in the United States--there's plenty of incentive for people to try to produce a better product, just like any other farmer.

I don't know of anyone who has become addicted to marijuana itself, but have known many who have relapsed into other addictions after deciding that a little marijuana now and then was "safe" (rather like trying a cigarette "now and then" after quitting, I suppose).

Personally I would rather be around someone or even ride in a car with someone who is high from smoking weed than someone who is drinking. After all you hear of all these drunk driving accidents...how many of them read "under the influnece of pot?" Never seen it! Hope this doesnt offend anyone but I would rather be a pot head than a drunk!

I am in my mid-50's. I have never thought smoking pot was a bad thing. In fact, I smoked it occasionally all the way through college and two levels of graduate school...over a twenty-five year period, with no ill effects. But I'm really confused about it the harmlessness of it now because my youngest son has been sentenced to 9-12 months in a drug treatment center over it, He started smoking pot with his friends in high school. In spite of being warned that he would be drug tested, he kept on smoking. Does that mean he's addicted? Maybe. Or maybe he's just daring and immature? I am concerned about the supposed harmlessness of pot also because some say it's sometimes dusted with other drugs, and some say it's much stronger now, and some say it all depends on the number and frequency of tokes, etc.

I've experienced some extremely strong pot in my lifetime and never became addicted. I just don't like to be TOO high very often. Got too much to do. A nice, little level of being high is just right...just before bed, or during live music festivals with friends.

Hello everyone!
I'm 52 years old and have been smoking pot since I was about 17. I'm a daily smoker and have two business that I own. One is an advertising company and the other is a hydroponics company. If you don't know what a hydroponice company is, well we supply the products to grow indoors. We don't sell anything illegal and this is a fast growing industry. I see nothing wrong with pot. It doesn't lead to stronger drugs as stated. Yes it is getting worse and not better. It's hard to find the really strong stuff anymore because of all the indoor growing going on now. I live in California by the way. People talk about all the money being spent on the drug wars, but if our goverment would allow pot to be legal a lot of the gang activity would go away, well maybe because of the bad drugs that would still be sold through the gangs. I'm talking about heron, coke & crank. Now there are some really bad drugs and yes they do wreck the lives of everyone involved with them. Both of my businesses are thriving and doing well. I work them both with over 30 empleyees between them. I would much rather be high on pot than any liquor or beer. I use to drink but not anymore.
Thank you for allowing my input here.

all i can say is god made pot and man made beer........who do you trust?????

Amen! My opinion on the pot issue is this.....It is the only "drug" that can be used in it's natural form. There is no "processing" involved. Just dry it, roll it up and smoke it. I do not use, but have in the past. There are more problems generated by alcohol than marijuana. And in my opinion pot should be legal and booze should be illegal. JMO.

A/The State's Attny in Vermont is trying to legalize pot. He believes prohibition doesn't work and because of all of the arrests, our prisons are overcrowded. Etc. etc.

Personally, I don't think I agree. Yes, prisons are overcrowded because of drugs, however I don't think it should be legalized. But, if it's legalized, perhaps there could be better monitoring and there could be some prevention in it being laced with other drugs.

I'm feeling rather wishy washy tonight and I can't seem to give solid examples. sorry.

I think its a personal choice... just like drinking.. or doing any other drug. Personally, I am an alcoholic and an addict.. I can't touch anything or all bets are off for me. My life goes places I am not willing to go.

Nancy

i know plenty of people who lead decent lives with great careers who smoke. pot. but up here in alaska it's legal. i will have to stop when my babe comes home, no pot in the house when he's on parole!

I Smoke Pot Everyday And Its The Only Thing That Eases Me. It Makes Me Decide Better And Everything Believe It Or Not. Sober I'd Probably Cry And Stress This Situation With My Fiance All Day. He Has Alittle Over 9yrs To Do Left. Thats Alot Of Pot Im Gonna Be Smoking! Lol

First of all... Tralynlee... what your cousin was selling was "Greens" or "Loveboat" I forget which one is mixed with PCP and the other embelming fluid. It wasn't straight weed.

I put this up here for a thought process.. BTW the friend who inspired this has stopped smoking pot... He said it just took him much longer to get the high he used to get.

I agree that if pot was legalized it would help with some of the drug war. But more so why are our loved one going to jail for possession of weed, coke, crack... if no crime has been committed than you would think this would be a "HEALTH CARE" situation, not a jailable offense... Now kept in mind if a crime has been committed then they should do the time.. But possession is not a crime, it is a disease, an addicition, just like our addictions to candy, soda, tv, cigerattes etc.... Our government needs to focus more on better health care programs instead of locking up for possession.

Do I think they should legalize weed... Absolutely... I would rather have my kids smoke a joint than the most addictive drug nicotine... Maybe you don't agree with this.. but that's okay.

Yes it's bad

heroine drug
coke crack etc
weed is all disgusting and bad for u,all are addictively wrong to do.

i am glad i am not messing with that crap no more,weed i did use few time in the past JUST TO ignore/hide/NOT DEAL with the pain, but i am better now wihtout that sh--t..
:) no more of that.

American policy allows deadly drugs to be legalized through the FDA because drug and tobacco companies pay good lobbying money. Marijuana has not caused any deaths. Countries where drugs are legalized has less crime. American policy creates higher prices for drugs and over crowds our prisons unnecessarily.


I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YA!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Addiction is addiction regardless of the drug used.!!

Addiction is addiction regardless of the drug used.!!

THIS IS TRUE...BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU USE A DRUG, THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE ADDICTED TO IT. I THINK MODERATION IS GOOD FOR THOSE WHO SIMPLY LOVE/LIKE TO SMOKE, OR DRINK.

Blah blah .....

How was cannabis used in Biblical times and lands?

Cannabis was used 12 ways: clothing, paper, cord, sails, fishnet, oil, sealant, incense, food, and in ceremony, relaxation and medicine. For so the Lord said unto me, "I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs. For afore harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches." (Isaiah 18:4-5)


AMEN>>>> Leteth us smoketh he he

True, as I'm finally coming to see the light on in recent days - an addiction is an addiction. However since I :hee: I have not yet come to grips yet that I may have to cut way back or possibly quit altogether for awhile if it means lessening the chance of my BF relapsing back to the sauce when he comes home and enters alcohol recovery.

Honestly, I'd rather quit alcohol. At least I never touched Meth (thank goodness).

Smoking cigarettes and pregnant? not healthy

Smoking pot and pregnant? see anything wrong with this picture?

Experience has taught me that anything the government approves is potentially unhealthy for you. Since the government demands to criminalize a natural substance (marijuana), there must be some advantages to the human body, mind and spirit. It is under 'control' simply because it has many constructive values in its use. The American government wishes to hold its citizens in a poisonous fog through alcohol, carcinogens in tobacco, so-called prescribed pills, fluoride in water and toothpastes, aspartame (DIE-t foods, drinks) which turns to formaldehyde at body temperature (Monsanto), ETC. Alcohol is FAR more damaging in excess and FAR more addictive! Smoking has many additives that are known to destroy the body. Drinking and driving not only kills many innocent people behind the wheel of any vehicle, it exacerbates negative emotions. Alcohol is a depressant. Marijuana has proven to heal. (Notice how marijuana uplifts the spirit? Anyone KNOWS that laughter is healing!) Anything in excess is damaging. The pharmaceutical corporations rake in the big bucks by blocking the legalization of a healthy joint or two (per day). --- Marijuana: Grown naturally for natural use. Question why it is prohibited???

Think about it. The use of marijuana would open the minds and souls of people. --- Tsk, tsk. The politicians and bankers would not want free thinkers seeing through their lies while laughing AT them. (What refreshing positive changes would be made in life and laws through the use of marijuana!!!) Drinking alcohol and smoking ourselves TO DEATH is EXACTLY what 'they' want. Don't believe for even one moment these rich elitists don't use weed without any cause for concern. THEY SURE DO! (All the while laughing at us.)

Research!

Legalize marijuana!!!

(Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!) --- ;)

the issue here is smoking pot , and smoking pot usually will lead you to try harder drugs..but my concern would be ..people who smoke pot, do other drugs are still not dealing with everyday stresses..they can function, but mentally they are not allowing the natural process of dealing with lifes issues cuz they are high.. i see no difference, many are still immature in thier thinking..

I don't think anybody here is trying to say that pot does not have the potential to lead to problems. The vast majority who have posted in this thread seem to believe that moderation is the key, as it is in all things.

agree. moderation with MOST things.

i have an attorney friend who fires up several times a week (excessive, but she's productive- own firm and all)... i have friends who smoke oh, every few weeks, i used to about once a month or so (seriously... used to) and i had a great state job, didn't call in sick (now i have own business- moved to a new town, so can't 'get' it anymore... but i would every now and then if i could.

never had an issue with it. friends either. we sit around, laugh, talk isht, chill, vibe to good music and eat.

speaking of food... smoking bad for your health??? ever read the labels on fast food? on most processed food? in twinkies? yeah, talk about a slow death.

everything the average person eats, the air we breathe, the carpet in our homes, synthetic matresses... is slowly killing us.

we gotta have a vice somewhere. and i thought i read somewhere that THC is not addictive.

my 2.

I think everybody is different. I know many people can smoke in moderation, but the majority of people I know are constantly worrying about running out and buying more. Which takes away from rent money, bills, and food.

There are some great benefits to weed. It's only when it starts to affect your life negatively that it becomes a issue. I felt like it was robbing me of my ambition. Making me feel lazier than normal and feel like doing the bare minimum of what I had to do. I felt I would have more success in life if I stopped so I did after 10 years. I feel really good now and more alive and energetic. I will always love that shit but for now I got to let it go!

My bf is a drug addict, he started out smoking pot again after he had been clean for a while, first it was just occasionally then it was more and more then it was everyday all day long, then it was back to the hard stuff. Even when he was just smoking pot he couldnt hold a job and he changed, became less open less happy less affectionate less interested less everything. I think that some are able to just do it occasionally and they can handle it. Addicts on the other hand cant, the search for the high takes over their entire life, even when he was just smoking pot, it was all he could think about, and all he wanted to do, started to forget about anything else and everything else wasnt fun anymore for him. I hate pot, I saw what the drug did do my bf's addicted mind, it led him in deeper and deeper, for me anyone who smokes pot is metaphorically standing on the lid of the toilet, I watched my bf flush himself down, the pot leading to coke, then to crack, then finally to trying heroin, after being clean over a year. Now he sits in jail. IDK Im probally biased, I think there are those that can handle it and those that cant. The question i always asked myself with my bf, was what was so horrible about the reality of his life that he wanted to be high all the time, he was living with me and we had a great relationship before he got back on all the drugs. I dont know its a hard question for me to answer, but I would be asking myself y your new man smokes it, usually getting high is a form of escape..

I hate any kind of DRUGS, People just don't realize it goes to something bigger. I would say our Prison are over flowing because of crime commited by Drug use. They need help. But they want get it. So they do it over and over. How sad on familys and the person who does this.
They have to want it for their self.

Do you drink soda? Use tylenol, ibuprofen, or aspirin to relieve pain? Do you ever have a beer to take the edge off a crazy day after work? Do you ever use Nyquil to quell a troublesome cough? What about coffee? These all contain drugs.

heroine drug
coke crack etc
weed is all disgusting and bad for u,all are addictively wrong to do.

i am glad i am not messing with that crap no more,weed i did use few time in the past JUST TO ignore/hide/NOT DEAL with the pain, but i am better now wihtout that sh--t..
:) no more of that.

If you can spell that right, I'll take you seriously.

the issue here is smoking pot , and smoking pot usually will lead you to try harder drugs..but my concern would be ..people who smoke pot, do other drugs are still not dealing with everyday stresses..they can function, but mentally they are not allowing the natural process of dealing with lifes issues cuz they are high.. i see no difference, many are still immature in thier thinking..

I know stoners who are better at dealing with life issues than teachers I've had. It's not a question of whether or not you do the drug, be it caffeine, alcohol, marijuana, or cocaine, but more of a question of whether you are handling the issues you face appropriately, responsibly, and reasonably.

I don't think there are good or bad drugs, just good or bad relationships with drugs.

I smoke till i choke and I'm wishin I could quit my true love ? MaryJane. I'm even considering treatment. I love being Healthy.

There are some newer medications out there that are supposed to help people quit smoking. How effective they are I have no idea, but several friends have used them and are smoke-free.

My father spent more than a decade using various techniques to stop smoking and finally managed it with Zyban some years ago. Zyban (aka Wellbutrin aka buproprion) makes some people sick, however, so I would approach it with caution.

I quit smoking over 22 years ago with the aid of nicotine gum and a girlfriend who hated cigarettes--not sure which helped more. Should I feel at all tempted to take up the habit again, I find that attending a smoking AA meeting (preferably held in a small room) to be a wonderful deterrent.

As to that other weed some folks like to smoke....I don't know that there are any easy answers out there. There is at least the comfort that, short of something like coffee, you've probably got one of the less harmful habits out there. Mighty easy to let life pass you by if you're stoned too much, though. Perhaps it's worth reminding yourself of that.

yess yess yess i do .

drugs are drugs and even though some say pot isn't a drug its still a drug.

you can still be put in jail for using it ...


i do not see the point in spending your life getting high so what you go to work everyday and pay your bills and do this and that

who cares YOU ARE STILL A DRUG ADDICT !!!!!!!!!!!!

anything can happened and you could go to jail or even die ... i just don't get the point in risking your life for what getting that quick fix ..........


My husband was a drug addict and still is , well is recovering but he will always be an addict but hopefully someday he will not have that title anymore but whenever he started smoking pot i knew only in time it would lead him back to using crack cocaine and it did....


So I have no Sympathy for people who are on drugs... i just think that basically you're a waste of life ................. too many people are dying over that crap , too many lives are being damaged and marriages and relationships and families are losing in the end due to someone's stupidity choices....

I feel it is a bad thing. I get so annoyed with my brother in law, because he can't pass a drug test therefore he cannot move up in his company. He already risks his job on a daily basis and sees nothing wrong with what he does. I have been drug free for 36 years. I have never tried ANY type of illegal substance and even try to not take ones that are prescribed to me by the doctor. I have been yelled at on more then one occasion for throwing away pain med prescriptions. LOL --- These things alter your mental state and feel they are wrong. On the other hand, my father smoked while he was being treated for cancer. He has since passed away but I did see the relief that it gave him. So I guess if it is for medicinal use it is OK , but for recreational use.. No Way .. Just my choice, my opinion.

I believe that if it were legal then more people would admit to using it. My son is now in prison for it. He used it because he couldn't admit he had a depression problem and I think it actually worked just as well as the meds hes on now, but it is illegal and everyone will be caught sooner or later.

I have watched a good, clean, intelligent, funny, sweet young man slowly dissolve because of smoking pot. He kept saying that he could stop whenever he wanted to, but he just wasn't ready. He became confused, lazy, rude and depressed. He lost interest in school and his job. He lied and hurt people. He did not see a change in himself, but it was quite obvious to those looking on from the outside.

Depression is a serious condition. It should and can be treated by a psychiatrist and/or a doctor. I have also watched the parents of this young man burry their son after he committed suicide.

I'm 55 years old and first smoked pot at the age of 15. The last time I smoked pot was a couple months ago when a friend came over to share some weed with me. She rolled a fat dube We got high and talked. I so enjoyed the visit and would welcome her back anytime. I studied the effects and consequences of crack cocaine after my girl went to prison for selling it and I wouldn't even go near crack or crack heads today. If I had some weed right now, I'd fire it up. I sell on ebay and remember one time when I was high and posted a bunch of auctions, none of them sold. LOL They must have been all screwed up. But I remember writing item descriptions thinking these would be the best.

I'm 55 years old and first smoked pot at the age of 15. The last time I smoked pot was a couple months ago when a friend came over to share some weed with me. She rolled a fat dube We got high and talked. I so enjoyed the visit and would welcome her back anytime. I studied the effects and consequences of crack cocaine after my girl went to prison for selling it and I wouldn't even go near crack or crack heads today. If I had some weed right now, I'd fire it up. I sell on ebay and remember one time when I was high and posted a bunch of auctions, none of them sold. LOL They must have been all screwed up. But I remember writing item descriptions thinking these would be the best.

You SELL pot on Ebay???:confused::confused::confused:

I'll bet someone has tried to sell pot on eBay....

If you know where to look, there are all sorts of other intoxicating substances for sale on eBay--things that regulation has not caught up with. I won't get into specifics but if any of you are familiar with that old classic book "Legal Highs", pretty much anything in there can be had via eBay. Silly, silly.

You SELL pot on Ebay???:confused::confused::confused:

No, not pot. I sell coins and electronic items. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

and why are mods deleteing my damn posts i would swear n ect but i wont ill behave

No, not pot. I sell coins and electronic items. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

I'm SO SORRY. . .:blush:. . .embarrased to say the least. I read it wrong, didn't I.
Dave, great response, though!!!:thumbsup:

My husband was taken away from my life for 15 months because of pot. I love smoking it.
However, we are addicts and it has ruined our lives..

A drug is a drug.
It's a war on drugs.
And we have to win.

The entire question of marijuana addiction is, for me, settled. If you've ever been addicted to a substance (opiates, barbiturates, benzodiazepines or good old alcohol) and kicked it AND if you've smoked pot regularly and then stopped, you know in your heart that marijuana is not addictive.

I'm 65 and I've done a lot of time. I've been strung out on opiates and on alcohol. I've also smoked pot, off and on, for about 50 years--although it wasn't as easy to get when I was a teenager. Luckily, however, the War on Drugs has driven the price of pot high enough to eliminate the occasional shortages that plagued me in my youth. But I digress.

Nobody was ever addicted to marijuana, no matter what they tell you in treatment centers. No tolerance develops. No physical withdrawl symptoms occur when pot use is discontinued. It simply does not qualify as an addictive drug.

Which is not to say that everyone should smoke it. Folks who have a tenuous grip on reality--shrinks would call them pre-psychotic--shouldn't smoke weed. But demonizing it is less than helpful. Young people today (just like kids in the 60s, when I came of age) know they can smoke pot without turning into drooling sex fiends or raving maniacs.

If you're against smoking weed, that's cool. It's your business. But it would be nice if the discussion was reality-based.

The entire question of marijuana addiction is, for me, settled. If you've ever been addicted to a substance (opiates, barbiturates, benzodiazepines or good old alcohol) and kicked it AND if you've smoked pot regularly and then stopped, you know in your heart that marijuana is not addictive.

I'm 65 and I've done a lot of time. I've been strung out on opiates and on alcohol. I've also smoked pot, off and on, for about 50 years--although it wasn't as easy to get when I was a teenager. Luckily, however, the War on Drugs has driven the price of pot high enough to eliminate the occasional shortages that plagued me in my youth. But I digress.

Nobody was ever addicted to marijuana, no matter what they tell you in treatment centers. No tolerance develops. No physical withdrawl symptoms occur when pot use is discontinued. It simply does not qualify as an addictive drug.

Which is not to say that everyone should smoke it. Folks who have a tenuous grip on reality--shrinks would call them pre-psychotic--shouldn't smoke weed. But demonizing it is less than helpful. Young people today (just like kids in the 60s, when I came of age) know they can smoke pot without turning into drooling sex fiends or raving maniacs.

If you're against smoking weed, that's cool. It's your business. But it would be nice if the discussion was reality-based.

Although I am not a pot smoker, I do agree. In my eyes Maijuana is not an addictive drug, The people that use it 9 times out of ten do not go out and commit violent crimes. I do not consider smoking pot a bad thing.

i think the only reason it has not been legalized is because the government can't figure out a way to tax it. but if they could....

I say one drug almost always leads to another.

Pot is not addictive. I use to smoke some on and off for years. I never had a problem with it. But I was also not smoking it everyday or all day long.
Usually the ones who says it leads to other drugs is usually someone who has never used drugs before. I guess if someone says it caused them to use other drugs, then they must be very weak. People who don't smoke cigarettes can be a buzz off them. So who's to say. I think if they legalized pot then there wouldn't be so many depressed and angry people running around.

pot is not a drug!

I was born in Jamaican folks...of course its not a BAD thing.

I say one drug almost always leads to another.
:thumbsup:

Right on Frank! I have been saying this for years.. I have posted much on this subject and know from my own life that Pot is NOT addictive.. If someone is laying around and have wasted their WHOLE life and looks horrible, then they are not smoking POT. Again I will say that in the whole 38 yrs of old pot smoking. I have never moved on to other drugs , nor do I drink. nor do I party, or hang out and sell my rear or drugs to supply my habit. I have yet to sell my soul to "lucifer" or have been so stoned that I woke up in bed with a stranger. I have never had "black outs" or robbed and killed someone to get my next hit. I can go months , years with out it . Coffee is much more difficult to give up. I am not fat, lazy or stupilified.

It just isn't legal, but (my thoughts) it ought to be- -a lot less "hot heads" if it was.
Ahwwwww, the age of Aquarious!
Been there, done that- -but back then- -it was $8.00 a bag- -my have times changed!! (don't you dare ask me my age)
Be safe.

If weed is not dangerous, why do people smoke it and risk to go to jail and pay money for?

There are many postings and websites who mention it is harmless. Like the cigarette industries trying to sell cigarettes or the alc industry selling alc.

A drug is a drug. It can change your decision making.

i don't consider pot a drug either. for people that don't have an appetite, or feel sick to the stomach, or have problems sleeping. i don't know of people smoking o joint and going out and getting crazy in trouble. tweekers definitely do!! not pot smokers!!!!!

The entire question of marijuana addiction is, for me, settled. If you've ever been addicted to a substance (opiates, barbiturates, benzodiazepines or good old alcohol) and kicked it AND if you've smoked pot regularly and then stopped, you know in your heart that marijuana is not addictive.

I'm 65 and I've done a lot of time. I've been strung out on opiates and on alcohol. I've also smoked pot, off and on, for about 50 years--although it wasn't as easy to get when I was a teenager. Luckily, however, the War on Drugs has driven the price of pot high enough to eliminate the occasional shortages that plagued me in my youth. But I digress.

Nobody was ever addicted to marijuana, no matter what they tell you in treatment centers. No tolerance develops. No physical withdrawal symptoms occur when pot use is discontinued. It simply does not qualify as an addictive drug.

Which is not to say that everyone should smoke it. Folks who have a tenuous grip on reality--shrinks would call them pre-psychotic--shouldn't smoke weed. But demonizing it is less than helpful. Young people today (just like kids in the 60s, when I came of age) know they can smoke pot without turning into drooling sex fiends or raving maniacs.

If you're against smoking weed, that's cool. It's your business. But it would be nice if the discussion was reality-based.


I agreed with you 100%.
I still smoke occasionally and go on to a perfectly normal life. I'm still going to college and I have job & pot doesn't stop me from either. I'm not ashamed about it at all. :hee:

i don't consider pot a drug either. for people that don't have an appetite, or feel sick to the stomach, or have problems sleeping. i don't know of people smoking o joint and going out and getting crazy in trouble. tweekers definitely do!! not pot smokers!!!!!

People who use meth defend meth. People who use pot, defend pot. People who use alc, defend alc. People who just smoke cigarettes, defend cigarettes. Nothing new here. First signs of addiction. Who is not addicted, must not defend his drug. First signs of lost self control also. I drink a beer or a glass wine every now and then. But I would never say it is not dangerous to drink alc. And I know that alc changed my mind already. If not, I wouldn't drink it. If I drink a glass of beer, it is not that I thought I like to drink a beer. It is that the beer asks me to drink a glass. As long as I am aware of this, I am NOT addicted. Because I am aware of the odds and not paint all in honeymoon colors loke I have everything under control. Same with weed. To recognize it is a drug, which CAN have odd effects, is the first step heading reality.

Does anybody see all the soldiers of the army of dead or sick users walking down the streets? No? Because they are in hospital or rest in pieces!

And that pot is a drug is a fact. If it wasn't a drug, nobody would use it.

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Chronic health effects of cannabis use



selective impairment of cognitive functioning which include the organization and integration of complex information involving various mechanisms of attention and memory processes;
prolonged use may lead to greater impairment, which may not recover with cessation of use, and which could affect daily life functions;
development of a cannabis dependence syndrome characterized by a loss of control over cannabis use is likely in chronic users;
cannabis use can exacerbate schizophrenia in affected individuals;
epithetial injury of the trachea and major bronchi is caused by long-term cannabis smoking;
airway injury, lung inflammation, and impaired pulmonary defence against infection from persistent cannabis consumption over prolonged periods;
heavy cannabis consumption is associated with a higher prevalence of symptoms of chronic bronchitis and a higher incidence of acute bronchitis than in the non-smoking cohort;
cannabis used during pregnancy is associated with impairment in fetal development leading to a reduction in birth weight;
cannabis use during pregnancy may lead to postnatal risk of rare forms of cancer although more research is needed in this area.

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Source: World Health Organization

Stop cheating yourself! Accept that weed is a drug and has control over you. And that it has effects. If it would not have effects, you would not use it.

I believe, all users who defend their drug, are already addicted. The drug let them defend their addiction.

the only reason it is illegal- if i am correct...((major criminal justice, minor business-law)) is because the g.o.v have not found a way to tax it. it is said and documented that in the 1920's it became illegal because the cotton overseers feared the blacks and mexicans would become unruly and out of control((ie-not want to work)) so thus the movement begun.now,, personally- when i used to smoke it,, i just wanted to chill and relax,, it kept me focused and i would clean. if i was pissed off at you , then you wouldn't have to be worried about it b/c if i was "red" then i wouldn't want any problems b/c i was feelin mellow.I still studied, did my homework school work, got up for work and school . addicitive?? anything can be addictive,,ANYTHING... if it is in your reach and easily obtainable- then yes it can very well be addictive,, just like SEX (( nymphomaniac)), soda((coke coca cola)), FOOD... but weed is not a gate way drug and is not dangerous in any form. i havent heard yet of anyone jackin someone or killin someone or breakin into someones home to pay for it. or jack their own mamas....

First, I think pot should be legal.

I quit quite a while ago; it's hard to preach to your kids not to go down that road if you don't. Teenagers can smell a hypocrite ;)

I also agree, though, about the argument of it leading to other drugs. I say that because it is illegal. Smoking almost inevitably leads you into contact with people doing other drugs, and makes it far more likely that you'll try them.

JMO..your mileage may vary.

:twocents: This is my two cents b/c I have not read all of the other posts. So my opinions may agree/disagree with other posts.
You can become addicted to anything. Especially if you feel that substance is helping you in some way. (I feel it is a mental thing) I think it is a gateway drug like any drug because once your tolerance is high and that drug no longer gives you the same feeling, you desire to try something else.
But like I said this is my :twocents: cause everyone is different.

Frank Driscoll wrote: Nobody was ever addicted to marijuana, no matter what they tell you in treatment centers. No tolerance develops. No physical withdrawl symptoms occur when pot use is discontinued. It simply does not qualify as an addictive drug.

The mental health professionals in the treatment centers I have consulted with in our community have actually encouraged addicts to smoke pot rather than return to their drug of choice (prescription opiates being a HUGE problem in my area). It's an unwritten policy.

It reminds me of my Catholic priest when I was getting ready to marry for the first time, who told me I could use birth control and I wouldn't burn in Hell.

Funny how the people working the front lines quietly run the revolution.

I say one drug almost always leads to another.

I disagree with this one.
It is only a gateway drug if you let it.
I know many people that have done no other drug besides pot, including myself.
Its more of a self control thing than the drug itself

While I agree that pot is not physically addictive it can absolutely be MENTALLY addictive I have spent the last 11 years with a man who daily chose pot over everything and everyone else until almost 2 years in prison (for poss. and manufacturing) helped him clear his head and realize everythig he had lost or missed out on. Smoking pot cost G a good job when he was caught smoking in his car at work. It cost him the money he had saved for my engagement ring as well as causing me to change my mind about getting married when he was arrested for smoking while driving after promising YET AGAIN to quit. It was the cause of countless vacations, outings,days, and nights that our boys and I had to enjoy without him because he wanted to do nothing after work other than to sit down in the basement and get high. It was the cause of countless fights and had I been a stronger person without such a single minded obsession with my children having a 2 parent home it would have cost him us. I threw him out of the house and still he didn't quit. When he was arrested for the big one we lost almost everything, but our boys and I finally got him back. We have the family I always hoped we would. Pot is like most everything else. Most can use now and again without having anything but a good time but there are those whose lives it takes over. For those who are using responsibly great, but please don't tell me my expirience is all in my head just because it isn't yours. :grouphug:

I absolutely believe that pot is a gateway drug. It lead my daughter straight to herion due to the fact that she was smoking joints laced w/heroin! Damn drug dealers! They ruined her life....and she thought she was only smoking pot.

I would any consider any drug use a bad thing i only say as i have a parent who works in mental health & most of the patients are drug users which led to there illnesses even those with chronic cannabis use alone

I don't think it's all that bad, but any addiction isn't good. It is illegal tho & I don't like being at peoples houses who grow a bunch of it and have people pulling in every 10 minutes to buy some. Makes me nervous.:eek: