Hi ladies it's April Fools Day! I am excited because I am going down to visit next weekend!! WOO WOO I am ready it's been since New Year that I seen my babycakes I can't wait!!! Ready for the new rules and new everything!! I hope everyone has a great April Fools Visit! haha

HELLO EVERYONE :wave: :wave:
WELL ANOTHER MONTH GONE :dance: I HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL..... GREAT NEWS BROWNQUEEN THT YOU COMING DOWN TO CALI....:hee: NEXT WEEK TO VISIT UR MAN... :thumbsup:
AS FOR ME THIS MONTH NOTHIGN GOOD FOR ME.... WELL MY MAN JUST GOT OUT FROM THT (SHU) ON JANUARY.. AND HES BACK TO THT (HOLE):angry: .... I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPEN... I GUESS I HAVE TO WAIT TO VISIT HES ASS TOMORROW....I WAS ALL :dance: :dance: CAUSE I WAS GETTING CONTACT VISIT. HE DID 2 YEARS ON THT (SHU) JUST IMAGINE HOW HAPPY I WAS OF GETTING CONTACT VISIT.:D :D NOW I FIND OUT MY MAN BACK TO THT (HOLE) :cry: :cry:
ANYWAYS I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GOOD VISIT..... :thumbsup:

HEY SPANK YOU BETTER BUT THE SMACKDOWN ON HIM.. FOR MESSING WITH YOUR VISITS LOL EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY... HANG IN THERE I'LL BE PRAYING FOR YOU !

BROWNQUEEN~ DONT TRIPP GIRL I WILL..... :D I WILL SEE HIM TOMORROW IN VISIT.... IM ON HES ASS TOMORROW :angry: THANK YOU.... :thumbsup:

Ok all, they changed they way they processed the visitors today, but they are not sure if they will keep it this way. The sergeant and a CO handed out the passes at the front gate, and we filled it out and gave it back, this happened until 730. They then let us in the gate, where we then stood in line, and the visitors who had already turned in their slips were allowed into the visiting room at 800. If you had a slip that was not turned in, you had to remain outside. On A yard, I saw no early terminations today, but I dont think it was as busy as usual. In my opinion, it went really smooth today.

Inalicesworld, did you make it to visit today? And if so what did you think?

Hi Friendz I hope if the process works they keep it. I am just praying that everything goes smooth and I pray that the weather is nice too lol !!! I need my visit! I miss my man!!!

FRIENDS : That sounds really good AMEN! so they passed out passes before 7:30 and had you fill it out right at the gate, gave it back and then went in? At 7:30 they let you ladies in and had you wait in line for 30 mins? Well it sounds pretty good exccept the 30 min wait outside if I understood it correctly. Hopefully we'll find out if they keept it up today... It sounds like it will work to process the early visitors out of the way giving them more time and organization through out the day. Well at least their trying something right?

LOL hey i just stopped in to say hi. i havent read the thread yet.
i wanted to ask how many went to visiting yesterday (saturday april 1).
the way they handed out passes seemed to be soomuch better. i got into the room really fast and actually had the whole day with my husband. i think we had the best visit we have had since he moved there.
im wondering if there is anything we can do to let them know how much we appreciated the way things went and maybe, just maybe, they will keep things the same?

any thoughts?

friendz i did and i LOVED the way they did the passes! our room got full towards the end of the day but they didnt terminate early. heck i was the second person in our room! and i was still standing at the desk outside when he walked into the room :)

im wondering what we can do to keep this process going. . . it was soooo much better and it had to be easier on the co's too, not just us. when we (the ones with passes) got into the roomthings seemed to go way smoother and faster for the co's too. . . man i just want to keep that process.

how was your visit? did you guys get to work out the issue from a couple weeks ago? i hope soo. if not want me to put the smackdown on him for ya? :D

Ok all, they changed they way they processed the visitors today, but they are not sure if they will keep it this way. The sergeant and a CO handed out the passes at the front gate, and we filled it out and gave it back, this happened until 730. They then let us in the gate, where we then stood in line, and the visitors who had already turned in their slips were allowed into the visiting room at 800. If you had a slip that was not turned in, you had to remain outside. On A yard, I saw no early terminations today, but I dont think it was as busy as usual. In my opinion, it went really smooth today.

Inalicesworld, did you make it to visit today? And if so what did you think?

brownqueen im so happy you get to visit next weeked! i can only imagine how bad you need to see him if its been that long. man i would be going nuts by now!

nit4LIFE: let us know what they do today im curious if htey keep it. . . it was sooooooo much better. even the standing out side, since we already had our passes, i stayed in the car until almost 8 because i knew they wouldnt open the door anyway before them so it worked really good. i had #40 so it got into the visiting room around 9 am. it went by really fast thoough so yeah. i hope they keep this way. much smoother :)

FRIENDS : That sounds really good AMEN! so they passed out passes before 7:30 and had you fill it out right at the gate, gave it back and then went in? At 7:30 they let you ladies in and had you wait in line for 30 mins? Well it sounds pretty good exccept the 30 min wait outside if I understood it correctly. Hopefully we'll find out if they keept it up today... It sounds like it will work to process the early visitors out of the way giving them more time and organization through out the day. Well at least their trying something right?

Yeah, we did get all our issues worked out. I wasnt sure which way we were going to go on all of it. We were on shaky ground. I visited both yesterday and today. We really got into it yesterday, but pretty much worked through it all by the end of the visit. Today we had a really, really good visit. Thanks for asking!!!

how was your visit? did you guys get to work out the issue from a couple weeks ago? i hope soo. if not want me to put the smackdown on him for ya? :D [/quote]

I visited today also, and they did it a little bit different today. (different staff) Today they handed out the passes near the parking lot by that fence. The whole process didnt go as smooth,but it wasnt bad either. And there were no early terminations today, on A yard. Who knows what next weekend will hold??

FYI: Blacks on A yard are now on lockdown, as they found 2 knives on the yard. Hispanics on A yard remained on lockdown also.

Yea they made us wait, it was about 20 minutes or so. By the time you got out of the car and everything.FRIENDS : That sounds really good AMEN! so they passed out passes before 7:30 and had you fill it out right at the gate, gave it back and then went in? At 7:30 they let you ladies in and had you wait in line for 30 mins? Well it sounds pretty good exccept the 30 min wait outside if I understood it correctly. Hopefully we'll find out if they keept it up today... It sounds like it will work to process the early visitors out of the way giving them more time and organization through out the day. Well at least their trying something right?

I hope you both have a really great visit!!! As for the weather, all we can do is pray, lol.Hi Friendz I hope if the process works they keep it. I am just praying that everything goes smooth and I pray that the weather is nice too lol !!! I need my visit! I miss my man!!!

hello ladies.....

i hope you all are doing well...glad the visits are going so smoothly.:D as for me im still waiting to be approved,but the mail has been so fast at NKSP so of course with tht being my only form of communication since my :heart: man's:heart: in reception,the fact tht its only taking 2-4 days is great!:) Just curious to know is anyones man getting out this year?07?08 perhaps?when.like i said im just curious,u know i gotta b nosie rosie:confused: ,but you ladies b safe and i wish you and your men all the best of luck.:thumbsup: my prayers go out to each n every one of you.LATA!:cool:

Hey girls how is everyone doing?? Its April Yay!!! Another month closer to my man. I'm glad to hear that you all had good visits and that the processing was much faster. Maybe you all should call the visiting Sgt and let her know how you guys felt about it and maybe it will stay that way. You know I don't know whats up with your guys' mail situation but that seems to be the only thing going good for me these days. I get his letters in 2-3 days max. He on the other hand hasn't been getting much of my mail and I send a letter a day mostly. I haven't talked to him in over a week due to the lock down and I'm feeling kind of bummed out plus this rain isn't helping. Have a good day girls :).

My man is supposed to be out 1n 2012, but thats if he dosent get another 20 years thrown on top of that. But that is a whole nother story!!!

I dont know what is up with the mail situaton again. I get his letters in 2-3 days, but his is back to getting mine in around 2 weeks or so. :(

Thanks for the mail dance misssusiequsie, I finally got a couple of letters last week. We were still working on our issues, but all is good now!!!hello ladies.....

i hope you all are doing well...glad the visits are going so smoothly.:D as for me im still waiting to be approved,but the mail has been so fast at NKSP so of course with tht being my only form of communication since my :heart: man's:heart: in reception,the fact tht its only taking 2-4 days is great!:) Just curious to know is anyones man getting out this year?07?08 perhaps?when.like i said im just curious,u know i gotta b nosie rosie:confused: ,but you ladies b safe and i wish you and your men all the best of luck.:thumbsup: my prayers go out to each n every one of you.LATA!:cool:

Okay I need your girls' opinion. I spoke to the wardens secretary 2 weeks ago and she said that she had sent me out a letter on the 17th of March which I have yet to receive. I need that letter to write an appeal to Sacramento plus I would really like to know the reason that the warden chose to uphold the 6 months. I know I should just let this go and wait until August to go see him but I can't. I need to know that I did everything I could especially because I feel that 6 months was way to long. And also I know it is my right to have a response to my appeal in a timely fashion and over the phone just isn't good enough especailly since she didn't give me the reason. So my question is should I call them again and ask them about it or just send a copy of the letter I sent the warden to sacramento and tell them that I haven't received my written response yet?

I think I would call them and ask them where your letter is and explain that you need it, as you plan on appealing their decision. If you try to submit the appeal letter without a copy of their decesion, it might get delayed some.

Is anyone getting mail from their guys at KVSP? I haven't gotten mail in a week and my husband always writes me 3 to 4 times a week! I'm getting pretty freaked and don't know if there is even anyone to call who would tell me the truth. The last letter I got was from Sunday 3-26. I'd like to know if you are all getting mail and how old the letters are.

Thanks!!:confused:

Is there still a lockdown at KVSP? If so which yards? I hate this not hearing from him either by mail or phone calls. He usually calls 2 or 3 times a week. I missed a call from him last Weds and nothing since then. I am really scared and don't know what to do. This is just not like him cuz he knows I worry so much. He would never go this long without letting me know he was okay. Any ideas?

SUSIE: Like Friends said if you send it without the final decision it will get delayed or even tell you yu didnt properly sibmit your appeal. ALWAYS remember you have to prove your case, we are the wives and girlfriends of inmates they dont believe us as much as they believe them... You need to call and tell them that your sorry to bother them but, as I told you before have them send you a copy of that so called letter they already sent. Of course they knwo you need it for an appeal and thats why I think they take their sweet time. Its all up to you if you go into knowing that nothing might change after you invvested a ton of time into appeals, it can add more stress on what your already going through but if you know that regardless of the outcome you'll be ok then do it just for your peace of mind...

SUSIE: Like Friends said if you send it without the final decision it will get delayed or even tell you yu didnt properly sibmit your appeal. ALWAYS remember you have to prove your case, we are the wives and girlfriends of inmates they dont believe us as much as they believe them... You need to call and tell them that your sorry to bother them but, as I told you before have them send you a copy of that so called letter they already sent. Of course they knwo you need it for an appeal and thats why I think they take their sweet time. Its all up to you if you go into knowing that nothing might change after you invvested a ton of time into appeals, it can add more stress on what your already going through but if you know that regardless of the outcome you'll be ok then do it just for your peace of mind...
Thanks, I am going to call and ask again. I do know that nothing will probably come of it but I still need to try. My thing is why do they even set up time limits if they aren't going to follow them and there is nothing that I can do.:angry: Of course if it was the other way around and we didn't file in time then we would just be up a creek.:blah:

terry ann: for us we have had the mail issue basically since he got there. he gets MY mail but i havent gotten anything he has sent me; and he writes daily to me. i have called and called and am not getting any info so i dont know. its really crappy not getting the mail!

i talked to mine yesterday and today and saw him saturday. i think they got off lockdown on friday if i remember right. yeah cuz he called friday night as i was drivig up to see him.

Is there still a lockdown at KVSP? If so which yards? I hate this not hearing from him either by mail or phone calls. He usually calls 2 or 3 times a week. I missed a call from him last Weds and nothing since then. I am really scared and don't know what to do. This is just not like him cuz he knows I worry so much. He would never go this long without letting me know he was okay. Any ideas?

Well as far as Mail ... Let me just say I get his mail fine but.. It takes forever for him to get my mail... plus when ever I send him stuff Priority Mail it gets sent back unopened and it stamped rejected. I am really getting annoyed I am just trying to send him writing supplies. This is the third time I got back the same Priority Envelope and it is just sent priority nothing more, no signature required,and I that way I don't have to figure out postage and it's easy to just slap the priority stamp on the envelope. I am just getting very annoyed and I am gonna to call the mail room and the post office because they are returning mail that is acceptable. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

All of yard A is on lockdown. It was only hispanics, on lockdown. But as of Saturday evening the rest of A yard went on lockdown, as they found knives on the yard. As for mail I got mail on Thursday and Friday, so mail is leaving out of there somewhere!!

I have been getting mail every day from my man. I was out of town and had 11 letters waiting when I came home and 3 at work. He however, rarely gets my letters. Are we talking about the same Delano II KVSP? Mine is on C Yard. I also have been getting phone calls every day if that helps anyone.

Hey there NancyP My man is on Cyard too. I get a call everyday and my mail comes regularly, and my mail to him is slllloooowwwww... too... Hey I have a question to ask anyone who is a regular at visiting KVSP, I am going to visit there for the first time and I talked to someone who has a friend that goes there every weekend and she said that it took 3 hours for processing, is that true?? Does it really take that long just to get in? Let me know because I hear all different kinds of things. I just want to be prepared!!!????

I have been getting mail every day from my man. I was out of town and had 11 letters waiting when I came home and 3 at work. He however, rarely gets my letters. Are we talking about the same Delano II KVSP? Mine is on C Yard. I also have been getting phone calls every day if that helps anyone.

hi everyone im new to pto but i've read alot of helpful advice thank you girls :) well my b/f is on c yard and im goin to visit on sat for this first time in delanoII so is there anything i should know? thanks

LIZ & BROWNSQUEEN: This week they processed alot faster under a new way they tried BUT they said it might not be implemented it was just for last week. You ladies can read the begining of this post and I believe it was INALICE who gave the info. So basicly get their early and wait outside in the car line and we'll see if they pass out the passes like they did last week, then wait in your car until 8 am and since your pass is in and processed you should be called as soon as the door opens.

BROWNS: I also go to C yard and I should be there this weekend, we will see how it goes and hopefully they dont terminate the visits, if they try and terminate yours they cant, 1. Be/c you havent visited withing the last 30 days and 2. Be/c you live more than 250 miles away. So keep that in mind

ITS MY ANNIVERSARY tomorrow so you know I want to be one of the first in to get my hug and kiss, see you there LIZ.. if you ahve any questions pertaining to C yard PM me and I'll try and help out

~HAPPY ANNIVERSARY NIT4LIFE !!!!!!~

Did I spell that right? Anyhow I hope you have the best visit possible.


Happy Tuesday to you all. Its been raining out here for days. How is it where you all live? Did I tell y'all that my sister is in county jail and she might be going to prison. That will make my brother, my sister and my man. Do you guys see a pattern here? Man I don't know where I came from. I must have been adopted :p . I called the prison yesterday and told the lady that I hadn't received the response letter yet and she said that she would find that correspondence and send me a copy. I think they are just messin with me. I don't even think they sent it or wrote it to begin with.

~BrownQueen~Like someone else said they can't terminate you because you haven't been to visit in the last 30 days and you travel more than 250 miles. So get in line early and enjoy your long visit girl. The rule applies to both Saturday and Sunday.:thumbsup:

NIT4LIFE happy anniversary!
well i got a call from my husband today; he sang me happy birthday so it made my day. again, he sent me mail 3 days last week but i havent gotten one piece of it. i even got a PO box in case the issue was with the mailman at my home. . . still nada. i am the only one having this problem. and the weird thing is he gets MY mail so i dont get it. im so frusterated that i want to cry everyday i check the mail and there is nothing there. . . . the phone calls are great but nothing can replace the letters ya know?

so no one went on sunday to see if they still handed out passes in the car line?
i am going sat. and am crossing my fingers they do it the same way cuz that was so much better.

missusie hang in there. im sorry to hear about your sis. man it has to be tough!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY
KRYSTI AKA
INALICESWORLD

*NIT4LIFE*

:dance: :dance: HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! :beer:

~HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!! ~
Inalices world~ I hope you do something special for yourself, you deserve it!:hee: :hee: :hee:

I guess I spoke too soon because it seems that now I'm not getting any mail either :( . No phone calls, No visits, and now No mail. Man they sure know how to try and break a girls spirit. He probably feels bad that I don't write him as much lately. I mean I send the same amount of letters but they are not the same as they used to be. I used to be so excited and send him all kinds of stuff and now it seems as I've lost my motivation. I don't know what to write about in the letters anymore. I need something good to happen in my life so that I can be happy again. It seems as though everything that has happened lately is not good. Sorry girls I'm just rambling. I'll be okay.

you guys are the best!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!

misssusie: i hope they arent messing with your mail now. . . we have come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, the mail issue is coming from his end. . . i hope that isnt your problem too! dammit it gets frusterating. i know what you mean though because i am having the same issue with writing. since im not getting his mail its hard to write knowing im noit going to get the reply anyway.

i hope you get a phone call soon. how long has it been??

I went on Sunday, but they did it different. They handed out passes at the fence near the parking lot. It wasnt as smooth, but it wasnt bad either. I will be there on Sunday.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO INALICESWORLD!!!!!

so no one went on sunday to see if they still handed out passes in the car line?

so they handed them out after you got into the parking lot? man i swear its so hard to know when to get there and what to do right now i hope they come up with a system they can stick with soon.

what i think is they should have the passes at the gate thinggie. hand them out when they open the gate at 745, let us fill them out and then we bring them in when we get into the parking lot and they go by the numbers. or something. though i liked when they did it at the car line the best ;)

I went on Sunday, but they did it different. They handed out passes at the fence near the parking lot. It wasnt as smooth, but it wasnt bad either. I will be there on Sunday.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO INALICESWORLD!!!!!

so no one went on sunday to see if they still handed out passes in the car line?

THANKS LADIES & HAPPY B-DAY INALICE!!

Are you visiting this week? Get that special kiss te best present ever!

SUSIE: dont worry about rambling this is about the only place we can do that without interuptions or bad looks. I know it'll be al messed up for a while and that you need motivation to write to him about something but think that you at least have us to talk to and yu have cable as I always say what does he have he has less mail and the same feelings you are having but behind a closed door around ppl that dont let him show his real emotions about all this drama, so even if you have to pull some spirit damn even lie to your man but make him feel that everything is alright and that you guys are gonna make it. even just write a letter rather a note, just telling him ILOVEU will go along ways he just wants to hear his name during mail call and have something to read and read and re read regardless. Im not lessening your fellings and makeing his better than yours but I always take the inmates perspective be/c we need to think that if its killing us its worse for them, heres a sugguestion I did with my husband when we had alot on ou r plate (seems like always) I find songs to dedicate to him, and get the lyrics to it and mail him a few in a letter he memorizes them and sings them to me, (its really an investment for me!) Also find good books that will heal your spirit and read them together if your Christian or need a book to get inspiration from with scriptures. Joyce Meyers Battlefield of the Mind, or send him some books to learn about the what a woman wants its interesting for him, and will work for you later (always think investment in you!) The point is focus on something else that will keep you going without letting go...

THANKS ONCE AGAIN FOR THE RECOGNITION, you know this is the only place I can be myself, I cant even tell coworkers about my issues and that my hubby is an inmate not to mention the fact that I would get fired. This place is a blessing to all of us wihout it wed be more insane then CDCR makes us to be

~Nit4life~ You know, I would like to thank you for taking the time to encourage me and listen to my problems. Its a hard feeling to explain not being able to see him. I know to some it may seem as 6 months really isn't that long and some go that long without seeing their loved one because of reasons other than mine but it was so hard on me because I was seeing him every weekend and he has no one else. I mean he has his mom but she only writes once in a while due to her own problems and she can't go see him. I feel so down all of the time and its scary because it seems as I'm forgetting little things about him. Like his smell, the look in his eyes, the way his lips feel on mine and I need to find a way to keep those alive. Plus there are a lot of other things in my life that just aren't going right. But yesterday as I was thinking about it I realized that I need to be the strong one for him because you are right about it being worse for him. It seems I have gotten my drive back and am getting excited again about things to send him and writing him and waiting for the day I can hear his voice again. I finally got some kind of good news last night that took a little bit of stress off of me. We were supposed to have this huge test tomorrow in class and the teacher is postponing it until after spring break so I have more time to study and finish my homework and I don't have to stress so much to get it all done. Anyhow here I am rambling again. Again Thank you so much I really appreciate it.

hey misssusie ramble ramble ramble! its what keeps us all sane! i know wha tyou mean; we had over 3 months of not seeing each other and i really thought i would lose it. . . i started feeling like you were, not remembering so many lil things. one night i sat down at the computer and closed my eyes and just thought and thought about our last visit until i could see it right there in my mind; as i did that i could feel him right there next to me. . . i just kept my eyes closed and wrote everything that i could remember and see from that visit and how i felt and the things i missed about seeing him at that moment; it helped me feel close to him again and when he got the letter he said it helped him too. so just a thought. hold onto those memories and bring them into your minds eye as often as you can so that you dont forget but keep feeling him right there with you.

you are doing good and im happy that you are starting to feel some spark again :) and the other stress is getting better also. when its everything at once, i know, it makes things so much worse!

thank you for the happy b day nit4life and everyone else!

i am definitely going on sat to see him ;)

~Nit4life~ You know, I would like to thank you for taking the time to encourage me and listen to my problems. Its a hard feeling to explain not being able to see him. I know to some it may seem as 6 months really isn't that long and some go that long without seeing their loved one because of reasons other than mine but it was so hard on me because I was seeing him every weekend and he has no one else. I mean he has his mom but she only writes once in a while due to her own problems and she can't go see him. I feel so down all of the time and its scary because it seems as I'm forgetting little things about him. Like his smell, the look in his eyes, the way his lips feel on mine and I need to find a way to keep those alive. Plus there are a lot of other things in my life that just aren't going right. But yesterday as I was thinking about it I realized that I need to be the strong one for him because you are right about it being worse for him. It seems I have gotten my drive back and am getting excited again about things to send him and writing him and waiting for the day I can hear his voice again. I finally got some kind of good news last night that took a little bit of stress off of me. We were supposed to have this huge test tomorrow in class and the teacher is postponing it until after spring break so I have more time to study and finish my homework and I don't have to stress so much to get it all done. Anyhow here I am rambling again. Again Thank you so much I really appreciate it.

Thats what were here for.. You know I have been through ALOT, just as many of you ladies have its is difficult to hold the fort down while your mate is away for long time. We have been up and down, good and bad, but we know the final outcome. It ahs been hard for me, but it wasnt until I started to look at it from my hubbys persepctive that I began to realize that regardless we have to pull forward, sometimes by a thread but together, we know the final outcome and that is what keeps us going. We have to PUSH ourselves and honestly no one else knows what we are expereincing but other woman in our shoes. I realize that not all woman are dedicated to their men, but I know I am and like to support other woman who do the same be/c that makes me feel better... I have a parent of one of the children in my class, she tells me her neworn childs father is locked up, I of course tell her how to support him and take her child to visit... Unlike the other teachers they would have told her to keep the children away from him. Another parent tells me that her hubby is an addict and I told her to support him, I told her why he cant not get high and how she can help him. I was just glad it was me they talked to and not the other teachers.

If we can give our men love they WILL be better ppl when they get out, its not hard at all but it does take some dedication, so I applaud the woman on PTO who care enough to come and get info... It time we invest as my hubby tells me it'll come back with interest for everything we go.

Now I realize that not all men diserve to have someone beside them and that some inmates like to through game at woman and its sad be/c they believe they are genuine with their feelings. Its hard to decifer between the two but I have many contact with ex offenders, gang members, and through infomration obtained from my hubby that I can tell, so no I dont give out the same advice to all woman to stick by their man, I just dont if I have a doubt.

KEEP ON FIGHTING FOR WHAT IS YOURS!!!

Awww here I am getting all sentimental :cry: :cry: :cry: . Here is a :grouphug: for all you girls. Thanks for keeping me sane and grounded. Without you girls to lean on I would be lost. Things are getting better. I got 2 letters from my lovely today :D I am just so happy to hear from him. He says that he's doin alright just kickin back with the cellie. He only got 1 letter from me last week :blah: which is makin me frustrated because I write everyday and I know he needs it. You know I need to stress another reason why I love him soo much. Instead of bein all pissy and blaming me for not getting mail he is understanding and just tells me how much he loves me. I know that is the way it should be but in the begining if I wouldn't get mail I would automatically think it was him not writing but in reality it was the mail being slow. He is just such a great person. *Sigh* I guess you could say I'm in love :p . I also got a letter from my sister. As you all know I have been worried about her too. She said that she got 180 days in County Jail and then she will go back to court. And she is pregnant :eek: but that is a whole other thread. Anyways I'm glad that she just got jail time instead of prison time so that lifts a load off of me too. My man is so cute, he said that until the lockdown is over we are just gonna have to keep posted up like 39 cent stamps. Ha Ha! I thought that was funny. Hey did anyone ever realize that there isn't a key on the computer for the cent sign? Oh and by the way Friday was a holiday and the mail didn't go out for them. It was Cesar Chavez day or something.

i have a ton to say but im so swamped today i dont have time so im gonna keep it short and say thank you for all of your support to all of us. . . that is why we are all here and it keeps us all sane and grounded. and something i have learned through this *other than some form of patience* is that i can talk to alot of people and help them in ways i couldnt do before which makes me very happy.

my husband deserves everything i have to give him and then some; he has come along way since he first got busted and im so proud of him and telll him so everyday.

i agree wtih you; looking at things from their perspective helps us stay strong and get through all of this that we go through.

misssuisie: i am SOOOO happy you got mail from him! and that your sister is OK and only has to do county for a minute. i know its aggravating that he isnt getting your mail as fast; mine is the same; but he knows you write and that its his system not you. mine knows this also and he says it sucks not gettig mail everyday but at least he knows he has something to look forward to. . . . .

everyone else take care. and hang in there!

Thats what were here for.. You know I have been through ALOT, just as many of you ladies have its is difficult to hold the fort down while your mate is away for long time. We have been up and down, good and bad, but we know the final outcome. It ahs been hard for me, but it wasnt until I started to look at it from my hubbys persepctive that I began to realize that regardless we have to pull forward, sometimes by a thread but together, we know the final outcome and that is what keeps us going. We have to PUSH ourselves and honestly no one else knows what we are expereincing but other woman in our shoes. I realize that not all woman are dedicated to their men, but I know I am and like to support other woman who do the same be/c that makes me feel better... I have a parent of one of the children in my class, she tells me her neworn childs father is locked up, I of course tell her how to support him and take her child to visit... Unlike the other teachers they would have told her to keep the children away from him. Another parent tells me that her hubby is an addict and I told her to support him, I told her why he cant not get high and how she can help him. I was just glad it was me they talked to and not the other teachers.

If we can give our men love they WILL be better ppl when they get out, its not hard at all but it does take some dedication, so I applaud the woman on PTO who care enough to come and get info... It time we invest as my hubby tells me it'll come back with interest for everything we go.

Now I realize that not all men diserve to have someone beside them and that some inmates like to through game at woman and its sad be/c they believe they are genuine with their feelings. Its hard to decifer between the two but I have many contact with ex offenders, gang members, and through infomration obtained from my hubby that I can tell, so no I dont give out the same advice to all woman to stick by their man, I just dont if I have a doubt.

KEEP ON FIGHTING FOR WHAT IS YOURS!!!

There was different staff, so I think thats why it was different. It did stop people from parking in the handicap and running to get in line.so they handed them out after you got into the parking lot? man i swear its so hard to know when to get there and what to do right now i hope they come up with a system they can stick with soon.

what i think is they should have the passes at the gate thinggie. hand them out when they open the gate at 745, let us fill them out and then we bring them in when we get into the parking lot and they go by the numbers. or something. though i liked when they did it at the car line the best ;)

Hey there girl!!! Hang in there. As soon as you see him again, it will all come back to you. I think your feeling it, lil bit more right now, as hes on lockdown and hasnt been able to call you. When this 6 months is all over, you guys will be so much stronger, with a greater appreciation of each other. You need to get a ticker, so we can countdown!!!~Nit4life~ You know, I would like to thank you for taking the time to encourage me and listen to my problems. Its a hard feeling to explain not being able to see him. I know to some it may seem as 6 months really isn't that long and some go that long without seeing their loved one because of reasons other than mine but it was so hard on me because I was seeing him every weekend and he has no one else. I mean he has his mom but she only writes once in a while due to her own problems and she can't go see him. I feel so down all of the time and its scary because it seems as I'm forgetting little things about him. Like his smell, the look in his eyes, the way his lips feel on mine and I need to find a way to keep those alive. Plus there are a lot of other things in my life that just aren't going right. But yesterday as I was thinking about it I realized that I need to be the strong one for him because you are right about it being worse for him. It seems I have gotten my drive back and am getting excited again about things to send him and writing him and waiting for the day I can hear his voice again. I finally got some kind of good news last night that took a little bit of stress off of me. We were supposed to have this huge test tomorrow in class and the teacher is postponing it until after spring break so I have more time to study and finish my homework and I don't have to stress so much to get it all done. Anyhow here I am rambling again. Again Thank you so much I really appreciate it.

thats a good thing then. . . its HARD to run that early in the morning hahaha. i dont even try and run actually. i figure i will get in when i get in. im not gonna push people down and run up there and kill myself doing it.

There was different staff, so I think thats why it was different. It did stop people from parking in the handicap and running to get in line.

Oh no pregnant and busted well 180 days I hope she wont be 9 months pregy and in jail, and hey there is nothing wrong with your family and no there is no parttern. Some ppl just get caught others have connections or dont get caught no body is perfect, they just think there better then us who have ppl or know ppl in prison. Like I said I cant even tell ppl my husband is locked up, I have to lie and make excuses for why he is never at home, or cna pick up our son and so on... Anyhow its not be/c Im embarrased but Ive tried before at other jobs and they just cant get it everyone is all for incareceration and keeping guys in there forever...

Anyhow let me get off my hubby should be calling to wish me a good anniversary...(only a few more and hes home) I keep telling myself that

ok guys you have all heard my mail issues for the past month. . . finally i rented a po box. but still hadnt gotten any mail.
until today!
im soooo happy! i got 2 whole letters today :) i am so happy i dont know what to do with myself
so since you guys have been listening to me whine i thought i would let ya know :)

INALICES~FINALLY!!!!:dance: :dance: YOU RECEIVE YOUR LETTERS.... AND WHOLE 2 LETTERS NICE! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: IM HAPPY FOR YOU! :D

MISSSUSIE~ KEEP YOUR HEAD UP..... EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT..:thumbsup: :grouphug:

Hi. Sorry to be out of touch. I've been out of town. I totally know all of the mail issues, and how hard it is to keep writing when you dont get mail and they don't get yours. I luckily get mail almost every day, except when they celebrate holidays we don't out here. However, mine just today got my Valentines card sent Feb 3rd. He hasn't gotten any of my mail for a long time, and I just went into apathy and stopped writing. Please don't do this. If you can't write a long letter, or can't bring yourself to find something to fill a whole letter, as your whole life is a mess and you have nothing really positive to say, then send a card with a note. I have learned my lesson on this one. Even if they aren't getting the mail, or you aren't, we HAVE to keep communicating. He got 4 letters/cards from me today and I can't tell you how happy it made him. Now I have weeks when I didn't write, and this is going to kick at me in the future. Hence, I've sent off 5 cards and 3 letters in the last few days. Our mail, and our communication, even if it is short means so much. Doesn't matter that we don't get mail from them, or we get phone calls, or our lives suck, we have to keep this line in for them. The lack of mail from them or phone calls is not something they can control. WE however can control what we send. We can't go the effect of the game. Realize that the mail will eventually be delivered. If you have a bad day or a bad week, send some goofy card or a photo of something. It may reach them weeks or in my case, months later, but boy does this mean the world to them. They depend upon us. We need to face this fact. Pardon my little lecture. Realize I got so bummed I didn't write for 3 weeks and I now realize t his was a huge mistake. The mail does eventually get there.

NANCY P: I know about being busy and not haaving time or energy to write, but I found something that works for me. I have found that at the Post office they have cute postcards, I buy them, but postage for them that same day so that when I do feel like a quick note, I can do this , and not have to worry about going back inside the post office for postage. My mothernlaw buys me postage paid envelopes to write to her son, be.c she wants me to, we all just want to keep him happy.

I have gotten his mail pretty fast, but he doesnt , but hey we cant do anything about that... Just find ways around this like mailing them stuff.

Offtopic: has anyone sent hot pots or hot plates, are they the same thing? My hubby told me to buy him a hot plate with his package,but I found a hot pot instead and I want to order the package already? he didnt call me yesterday but I understand that its not up to him when they allow him to call, I;ll see him this weekend its alright but i need this question answered.

Hey girls, how is everyone today? The weather outside is at least sunny and it goes right along with my mood.:) Anyhow I finally received the "letter" from the wardens office. It says something along the lines of this: Upon looking into this matter it was concluded that you were observed making a profane comment in front of other visitors and children and you were observed with a cell phone in the visitor process area. These are against rules and regulations of the CDC. Due to the seriousness of your actions I cannot reduce or take back the decision that was made. We encourage you to re-apply for a re-instatement of your visits after the 6 month period." Not exactly all of those words but that was the jist of it.

The letter finally made it to you!! Its about time, now get crackin, and file the appeal!!Hey girls, how is everyone today? The weather outside is at least sunny and it goes right along with my mood.:) Anyhow I finally received the "letter" from the wardens office. It says something along the lines of this: Upon looking into this matter it was concluded that you were observed making a profane comment in front of other visitors and children and you were observed with a cell phone in the visitor process area. These are against rules and regulations of the CDC. Due to the seriousness of your actions I cannot reduce or take back the decision that was made. We encourage you to re-apply for a re-instatement of your visits after the 6 month period." Not exactly all of those words but that was the jist of it.

Miss Susie, that is just too messed up! I'm so sorry about your news. I don't often post cuz I don't feel I have much to offer, but I read the thread everyday and respond when I need help or feel I might be able to help someone else. Sadly, I have no idea how to help you in this. I think the phone issue might have gone away, but they're gonna hang hard on the crap about the profanity in front of children. Bastards!

And Nit4Lfe - I sent you a PM on the hot plate v. hot pot issue, so check your PM's. This one I DID know the answer to. :D

As to the mail issue. My mail gets to him within a week, but I just never know when his will get to me. One week I'll get mail every delivery day, then next I won't get mail at all and then 4 letters will come in one day. It is my pet peeve and drives me up the damn wall.

Also - anyone who has husbands/boyfriends on B yard. They have ALL been slammed since last Wednesday after the second stabbing in a week. It's a white on white issue though and the Hispanics are being allowed out, but only if they are kitchen workers.

Hope everyone has a good day and again Susie, I'm sorry for the attitude of the Warden.

Terry Ann

nancy

you are so right. i got bummed but only went a day or maybe 2 in a row that i didnt write because i know eventually he will get my mail so i keep writing, even if its just syaing hey i love you and stuff like that; some arent as long as normal but at least we both know there is something out there he will get eventually. mine was getting so upset and not wanting to bother since who knows what happned to all the mail that was sent to my house i never got; but he decided to keep writing anyway and finally i started getting mail at the PO box. so im with nancy girls. keep writing no matter what :)

Hi. Sorry to be out of touch. I've been out of town. I totally know all of the mail issues, and how hard it is to keep writing when you dont get mail and they don't get yours. I luckily get mail almost every day, except when they celebrate holidays we don't out here. However, mine just today got my Valentines card sent Feb 3rd. He hasn't gotten any of my mail for a long time, and I just went into apathy and stopped writing. Please don't do this. If you can't write a long letter, or can't bring yourself to find something to fill a whole letter, as your whole life is a mess and you have nothing really positive to say, then send a card with a note. I have learned my lesson on this one. Even if they aren't getting the mail, or you aren't, we HAVE to keep communicating. He got 4 letters/cards from me today and I can't tell you how happy it made him. Now I have weeks when I didn't write, and this is going to kick at me in the future. Hence, I've sent off 5 cards and 3 letters in the last few days. Our mail, and our communication, even if it is short means so much. Doesn't matter that we don't get mail from them, or we get phone calls, or our lives suck, we have to keep this line in for them. The lack of mail from them or phone calls is not something they can control. WE however can control what we send. We can't go the effect of the game. Realize that the mail will eventually be delivered. If you have a bad day or a bad week, send some goofy card or a photo of something. It may reach them weeks or in my case, months later, but boy does this mean the world to them. They depend upon us. We need to face this fact. Pardon my little lecture. Realize I got so bummed I didn't write for 3 weeks and I now realize t his was a huge mistake. The mail does eventually get there.

i have his old hot pot at the house that he couldnt bring over there with him and its an actual pot like thing; a hot plate, what i remember, is more of a flat thing; i imagine like a skillet type thing that you plug in. . . . mine just asked for a hot pot too. sucks cuz the one he had i had bought not even a month before he moved and they wouldnt let him take it :angry:

hopefully he will call and you can check with him but i would say the hot pot.

NANCY P: I know about being busy and not haaving time or energy to write, but I found something that works for me. I have found that at the Post office they have cute postcards, I buy them, but postage for them that same day so that when I do feel like a quick note, I can do this , and not have to worry about going back inside the post office for postage. My mothernlaw buys me postage paid envelopes to write to her son, be.c she wants me to, we all just want to keep him happy.

I have gotten his mail pretty fast, but he doesnt , but hey we cant do anything about that... Just find ways around this like mailing them stuff.

Offtopic: has anyone sent hot pots or hot plates, are they the same thing? My hubby told me to buy him a hot plate with his package,but I found a hot pot instead and I want to order the package already? he didnt call me yesterday but I understand that its not up to him when they allow him to call, I;ll see him this weekend its alright but i need this question answered.

im with friendz: get crackin! at least you finally got the dang thing. . . now you can move a lil forward. . . . get the appeal started and remember we are all here for you :)

the sun is nice today isnt it?

Hi ladies,

Well it sounds like they are still trying to find what works for the visiting passes, so now they are passing them out before you get out of your car, thats cool. I think once they get fully staffed things will be a lot better.

Well I will be heading out this weekend as well, for all you ladies who are going have a great visit. MISS keep working on those appeals, stay on that grind, its the principal not the result that matters..

Borwnsqueen again, I am so excited for you... Mail still suck outgoing is good incoming is still lagging, I ordere my man a package with a tv, and electric razor 2-10-06 and he still has not rec'd it, but he did get his quarterly package i ordered two week later, go figure..

Ok ladies.

India:o

SUSIE I hope they quoted of the Title 15 why they keept this decision. Be/c we have things say " we feel" Im like this, feelings are not an actual basis for a decision, I need more than somebodys feelings for them to be ruining my life... So are they making you reapply all together or reapply for reinstatement, what the hell does that mean...?

Terry Ann: thanks for info on the hot pot, first I thought it was a Special order but like CD's it has changed to regular package, my hubby had one I bought him in spo but it got messed up so here I am, I just want to tell him LOOK what I did for you already... Need some extra brownie points since I didnt go to visit this week and will be changing my visiting days, I need to reassure him that Im still on top of things and I dont love him any less. jeesh this is work but I need the benfits NOW!

Nit4life~ You know what they didn't quote anything other than saying that what I did was against CDC rules and regulations but I have searched the Title 15 and I don't see anywhere rules that would apply to my situation. It says nothing about profanity and it does say something about cell phones but that is more to the fact of not trying to take it in or getting caught trying to sneak it in. I actually asked another member here from PTO, who is an attorney, for a little advice and he is going to look into it a little further for me. He also said that cell phones are allowed on institution grounds just not past a certain perimeter and I would like to know what that is because I never even went inside any of the buildings with my cell phone. I was still in line outside. The letter said I had to re-apply for a re-instatement which I'm interperting as I have to once again send a letter and apologize to the warden after the 6 months is up. But your guess is as good as mine. They won't even give me a date when I can return. I don't understand why they are making such a big deal out of this. Its not like I was caught having sex or even sneaking drugs in. Heck I wasn't even caught trying to sneak the phone in. And they can't tell me that people don't slip once in a while and say a cuss word when they are frustrated. It was only 1 word and I didn't even direct it at anyone. The more I think about it the more it frustrates me.

I have a question has anyone used the Friends Outside Transportation?? I am gonna use it this weekend and just want to know if anyone has any info or know anything about it?? Thanks a bunch!!!!

I k now that in general they pick you up but you get there late and have to leave early, you should ask if you dont know already. I do know that I needed them for child care in the trailer and they were so mean, asked me why the child wasnt visiting, and made it a point to tell me its a one time emergency care, they had told me before that it was 1.30 min and that day they said it was only 1 hour. They pissed me off, they arent CO to have a chip on their shoulder. They are there to help the families of inmates, I think they dont quite understand there role at this prison. I have had really good expereinces at other centers and have even volunteered many hours in LA, but these ppl are not on my good list..

But let us know ur expereince, to bad I couldnt help you with that I did here some lady that lves in Delano say that was cool they would pick her up, so I assumed liek in other prisons they pick up ppl around the comunity...?

Hey everyone! I'm just wondering how visiting went this weekend. I'm hoping to finally make it all the way down there in 2 weeks. I haven't seen my husband since December 17th!!

Hope everyone had great visits!! :thumbsup:

I can only speak for today, and it was HORRIBLE!!!! I got there at 945 and got ticket 295.:eek: I waited for three hours, then decided to leave. Effective April 15th they will start handing out the passes at the gate at 745 until 845. I suggest getting there EARLY. I will never go again late. I think it was bad, as A yard has been on lockdown all week.Hey everyone! I'm just wondering how visiting went this weekend. I'm hoping to finally make it all the way down there in 2 weeks. I haven't seen my husband since December 17th!!

Hope everyone had great visits!! :thumbsup:

friendz oh my gosh that is horrible! i went saturday and got there at 720 am; the cops were out there handing out passes at about 7 am i guess because when we got there they were already getting in their van and going back inside. . . so we stood in line but still got in to the visiting room by 930 am. i would suggest definately getting there early because they were still letting people in to our room very late into the afternoon.

friendz im sorry that you didnt get a visit! that stinks. hopefully next weekend will be better, but A yard being on lockdown probably made it alot worse too because no one got phone calls all week. hopefully they will get off lockdown this week.

Well My Man Finally Got Moved To D Yard So Hes Been Getting All His Mail That He Didnt Get In The Hole A Month And Halfs Worth Thats Alot Of Mail. Oh And If Anyone Knows Of Someone Coming From Sacto Area Or Even The Bay Area To Go Visit I Would Like To Go!!!!if Not Im Gonna Have To Stay The Night Before And The Night After. I Also Got A 4 Month Old Baby Goimg With Me Please If Anyone Knows Of Someone Please Please Let Me Know!!!

Hey Ladies!! How Is Everyone Doing? I Hope All Is Well With Everyone.

As For Today's Visiting Is Was freakin' Horrible, i Got There @ 8:30 And Got In @ 11:45, Then When I Finally Got Into The Visiting Room, It Took Them Almost An Hour To Bring Him Down!!!! The Need A New System Bad..

Hey, I Have A Question?? When You Say That They Are Going To Start Handing Out Passes @ The Gate On The 15th, From 7:45 To 8:45; Is That It?? They Are Not Going To Hand Out Anymore Passes After 8:45??? Can They Do That?? Because I Thought They Had To Hand Out Passes All Day Well Atleast Until 1pm?? Just Wondering..

Well Everyone That Went To Visit, I Hope You Had Great Visits!!! Because I Had A Wonderful Visit!!!

Sinnerslady~~~~>

They will still hand out passes, but they will be doing it from the viviting area. But from 745 to 845 they will be given from the gate. I do think we will have to start getting there earlier and earlier, just to be sure we get in, at a decent hour

Hey, I Have A Question?? When You Say That They Are Going To Start Handing Out Passes @ The Gate On The 15th, From 7:45 To 8:45; Is That It?? They Are Not Going To Hand Out Anymore Passes After 8:45??? Can They Do That?? Because I Thought They Had To Hand Out Passes All Day Well Atleast Until 1pm?? Just Wondering..
Sinnerslady~~~~>[/quote]

The CO I talked to said they (A yard), was supposed to be on regular program as of today, but he wasnt sure if they actually went to regular program. But my man hasnt called, but Iwill hear from him in the next day or two.

misssusiequsie, have you heard from your man yet??friendz oh my gosh that is horrible! i went saturday and got there at 720 am; the cops were out there handing out passes at about 7 am i guess because when we got there they were already getting in their van and going back inside. . . so we stood in line but still got in to the visiting room by 930 am. i would suggest definately getting there early because they were still letting people in to our room very late into the afternoon.

friendz im sorry that you didnt get a visit! that stinks. hopefully next weekend will be better, but A yard being on lockdown probably made it alot worse too because no one got phone calls all week. hopefully they will get off lockdown this week.

hello ladies! well i went both days to visit... well as for yesterday it was alright.. i was in tht visiting room least then 40 mins.... but today f%*@k en shit is was horrible i got there @ 11 30 and i was in tht visiting room by 1 15 and left @ 2 30... girl's one of my friends she got there tht with me.... and she was in tht visiting room @ 2 something she only had an 5 mins visit :angry: :angry: they always f*^@cking with her in visit... i saw tht page about starting on tht 15 they going to start handing out passees@ tht gate

A and B they till on lockdown.... but they can till get visits.....

well i hope all you ladies had great visit!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:.. well as for me i did... :D :D

one of tht co told me tht they going2 open more yard's.......

More open yards, means more visitors. :eek: oh yeah they gonna open more yard's.... [/FONT]

YUP GIRL! OPEN MORE YARDS :eek: MORE VISITORS.... HE TOLD ME IS JUST HORRIBLE IN VISIT.... THT THEY WEREN PREPARED TO OPEN THT PRISON... AND THEY NEED MORE CO'S....THEY PLANNING TO DO ALOT OF SH*^T...

WEll I went yesterday early and it was not passes at the gate, you went to park and right in the lot they gave out passes, hey did say that as of next week they would hand them out at the gate, be.c it still didnt work since ppl still ran out of there cars and cars behind me already had a pass in front of me... I had pass in the 20's and got to see him by 9am... It got overcrowded and instead of terminating visits, they opted for sharing tables... I dont like this, I dont like to be terminated either but there were way to many ppl on C yard, talk about no privacy, it was just crazy, it seems that every week more and more ppl come and the staff is not there to process and also the rooms are to small for the amount of inmates who get visits. What were they thinking its close to LA of course its gonna be packed its accesible, only 33 some tables and everyone had another inmate on its table....I just want to spend time with my husband and zone everybody out anyways so I dont really care, it does take some effort to get there early but , I think its better than going late, they need an appointment line or lets see how it goes with the passes , if there were 4 COs proceesing the first passes if its starts fast and smooth it will be like that all day..... I just care about being able to get in and see my hubby get my hug and kiss...its awful but liek my hubby said all these rules I here all day while I'm there I just want to be in a bubble, get mines and get out, even if I get a 5 min visit like your friend LILONE, I would be upset that after all the drama you have to go through thats all you get but at least she got her kiss and hug to last her for the week it could be worse, they could be on l-down, it could be non contact visits and so on... I consider myself lucky to see him while he does his time. My 2cents...

Yup the processing is HORRIBLE..... I went both days and got there at 830 and I didn't get into the visit room until 1130 on Sat and 1230 on Sunday, it was an experience let me tell you!!! And to any of you ladies that have not been there yet and are gonna go soon PLEASE arrive EARLY if you want to get in especially if you come from a long ways like myself!! I was just so glad I finally got to hold my baby and kiss him and love him and all the good stuff!!! They really need to get the processing together there, My opinion is that they are doing it all back wards, They should be processing the paperwork and stamp first, then do the search / metal detector, but what I noticed is when that big tall white guy came in around 1100 more numbers were called and more people were getting through, I guess he probably got tired of seeing all the same people standing outside for so long. HOURS ON HOURS!!!! For sure I am doing it all different when I go out there again wooo weeee it was a crazy day and not to mention the visit room was like a zoo lol haha and we had to double up with a couple both days, and they weren't really terminating visits. So that's good for some of the people!!! Well we need to make complaints to Sacramento and let them know that it's just a mad house there and it's ridiculous and they need to go visit New Folsom and other prisons that have it together to see how real processing is done!!! Well all in all my visit was FANTASTIC...!!!!

OH YEA AND P.S
IT WAS NICE MEETING YOU LIL ONE AND ALSO MOUSIE THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND IT WAS A PLEASURE MEETING YOU AND GIRL WE GONNA GO ON A MISSION SOON TO GO BACK TO THE MADHOUSE THEY CALL KERN VALLEY LOL HAHA OH YEA AND I TRIED CALLING ART ALL NIGHT AND ALL I GOT WAS A BUSY SO I WAS SAD BUT NEXT SUNDAY!!!!... GOD BLESS TAKE CARE!!

misssusiequsie, have you heard from your man yet??

I have gotten letters but no phone calls yet. Man its been over 2 weeks since I've talked to him and I thought it couldn't get any worse. Someone is really tring to test our relationship. Guess what girls!!?!! Only 4 months left until I can ask for my visits back!!!!!!!:D How do I get a ticker? Sorry to hear about your guys' visits. You should all write to Sacramento and let them know how you feel. I'll even help. It might not do any good but neither will keeping quiet. It is very ridiculous and they never should have opened if they weren't ready. Hey has anyone got a wedding date set yet?

missusie: YAY!!!! see that 2 months already went by so fast. . . there is an end in sight. and hopefully by the time you get them back all this business with the procedure to get in will be over and settled.

Everyone else who visited this weekend; it was crazy and getting there early is the only way to hopefully get in early. . . but as far as sharing the tables, its not the ideal istuation but i would rather share a table than get terminated. i was happy on sat to see them starting to do that instead of just kicking people out.

the rooms are definately not big enough; or at least they should have the long skinny table instead of the round ones so you can fit more in there.

so much for him being so much closer and it being cheaper for me to see him tho. i can get up an earlier than 4 am to make that drive and still be ok to drive home that afternoon but from the way this is going we are going to have to start lining up at freaking 5 am which means having to get a motel room or sleeping in the car which i cant sleep in the car at all so . . .bleh i hope they get the pass thing figured out soon. i like the handing them out at the gate idea the best. it makes the most sense overall. then no one is pushing each other over in the parking lot to run up and get a pass or argung in line with the co over who got there first.

so i guess we will see how it goes this weekend. . . . .

You know on A yard, probably because it was the first yard open, we always had to share tables when the room started filling up. And I don't think anyone loved it but we dealt with it because it was either that or we had to leave. They did however, always make you share with an inmate of a different race. Do they do that on your yards? I think someone who actually knows what they are doing should come in and whip this place into working order. Has anyone heard anything about Inmate Family Council? Has it even started up yet? If so I wonder if they have any info on things?

Under the siggy forum, there is a link on how to get a ticker. You can go to different web sites and pick one. I think it is similar to posting the siggy. I have gotten letters but no phone calls yet. Man its been over 2 weeks since I've talked to him and I thought it couldn't get any worse. Someone is really tring to test our relationship. Guess what girls!!?!! Only 4 months left until I can ask for my visits back!!!!!!!:D How do I get a ticker? Sorry to hear about your guys' visits. You should all write to Sacramento and let them know how you feel. I'll even help. It might not do any good but neither will keeping quiet. It is very ridiculous and they never should have opened if they weren't ready. Hey has anyone got a wedding date set yet?

you know i didnt even notice if it was sharing with another race; the porter came up and told us that they were starting to share tables and asked if we were cool with that, but then he came back a lil while later and told us it was cool; i saw some people were sharing but i didnt notice if they were toher races or not. it was fine with us to share; anything is better than having to leave early.

i dont think they have the inmate family council started up over there yet. i think it will get straightened out over there but they are still so new and dont really know what they are doing; so it seems they are playing a guessing game right now to see what works and what doesnt.

You know on A yard, probably because it was the first yard open, we always had to share tables when the room started filling up. And I don't think anyone loved it but we dealt with it because it was either that or we had to leave. They did however, always make you share with an inmate of a different race. Do they do that on your yards? I think someone who actually knows what they are doing should come in and whip this place into working order. Has anyone heard anything about Inmate Family Council? Has it even started up yet? If so I wonder if they have any info on things?

BROWNQUEEN IT WAS NICE MEETING YOU TOO GIRL AND MOUSIE TOO.... THT SCANLESS WHAT THEY DID TO YOU GIRL YOU WERE THEY SINCE 8 30 AND THEY CALL YOU @ 12 30 THTS SCANLESS SH%@!

BROWNQUEEN REMEMBER MY FRIEND SHE ONLY HAD A 5 MINS VISIT :mad: THEY ALWAYS FUC*&@ WITH HER VISIT....

WELL WERE TALKING TO THT CO HE JUST TOLD US THEY CAN NOT DO NOTHING ABOUT IT ... WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TO WRITE TO THT SARGE- , TO WARDER OR TO SACRAMENTO CAUSE THEY CAN NT DO NOTHING ABOUT IT... AND THEY ARE OPENING MORE YARD'S.... SEE MORE VISITORS...:eek:

IMAGINE RIGHT KNOW HOW CRAZY IS IN THT VISITING ROOM IMAGINE HOW IS GOONNNA BEEN WHEN IS THTSUMMER TIME... I GUESS WE HAD TO BE IN THT PARKING ALOT SINCE 4 A.M THT SHIT IS TO CRAZY!!!! :angry:

Hi Ladies,

It sounds like everyone experienced the same issues all over again. I actually got there Saturday at around 8:30 and didnt get my visit until 10:30. I was standing outside in the sun which made it better than being out in the cold. Once I got into the D visiting room I was table 20 which allowed me to not have to share since I am close to the back with the kids. I understood that the first 10 tables are the first ones to be asked to leave if there is overcrowding. I agree their whole set up is wrong, my man said the CO were taking suggestions about the visiting arrangements, he said they even mentioned possibly allowing visits in the patios, which would be nice for the kids, and more space for the visits. Saturday in D yard they were not even taking pictures, which was dissapointing.

Ladies this is my first time visiting a prison but I have a lot of homegirls who tell me it is not like this were there husbands are at. The one thing my man did say that dispite all the dramam with the mail, and the one phone in his unit he has been told that his level 4 is like a resort in comparison to other level 4's. The visiting arrangements does discourage me from going to visit, its difficult on the kids and me i get so impatient with them. FOr the most part everyone sounded like they had a good visit. I wish i would have met some of you ladies.

India:p

I got a letter from my man today and he said that they are only allowed to get 5 pics now per letter!!!:eek: Now is it just me or is this getting to be too much? At many other places if not all they can get at least 10 if not 20 photos per letter and now its only 5!! And at first you could send up to 200 sheets of paper and now its only 50? They are not gaining anything by doing this except making us spend more money on stamps!! I mean I don't know if they think they are going to make their jobs easier by doing this but it won't really because now people will send more because they can't put it all into one envelope. And I don't get what the purpose of this is? Can anyone enlighten me? I know this isn't one of the biggest issues we have but my man asks for a lot of pictures and 10 already wasn't enough to be able to send at one time before they lower it to 5. And sending those big envelopes isn't cheap either and I have to send at least 2-3 a month because of the limits. Sorry just another one of my vents. Has anyone heard anything about the lock down on yard A yet?

MISS,

you know nothing stays consistant at this prison, I hear your fraustration. We are the only source of support these men have and the system is not making it easy on any of us. I dont think this makes their jobs easier, regardless the mail must be opened and reviewed, so go figure. Yeah my mans package took him 9 weeks, what kind of shit is that. I am already gettting ready to order his second package which should get to him right around when its time to order a new one.

Financially I feel the burden as well, I actually send him pictures copied on paper and I havent had them tell me any different yet, what do they do return them or give them to the inmate and advise them? Things can only get better than worst, I hope.... maybe i'm talking to soon.. Hang in there and let it out, cuz i know i have plenty days like this.

As you all know i am with a lifer, and let me tell you ladies every day this seems to get harder on me, not the visits or the writing but the realization of what kind of time we are facing. I look at my babies and i cant believe he may not be back in time to see them grow up, when i think about all the drama with visiting, i just cant imagine me doing this forever... thanks for allowing me to vent

India:p

hey you got in pretty quick on sat! i was there too; we were close then cuz we were at table 16 ;)

compared to the other level 4's mine has been this place is really good. even tho the visiting is taking a while to straighten out, the mail issue has been an issue everywhere. here he gets phone calls like crazy compared to his other place. he also told me how he was tlaking to the co's the other day and they told him this is how they are running this prison; as a programming level 4; instead of keeping all the inmates on lockdown all the time, they want to program them all the time and have them working and doing vocational and i guess see if it helps all of the drama issues or somehting.

:) mine just called me but im at work and my boss is right here :(( i hate when that happens. we had to cut our talk short. blech.

Hi Ladies,

It sounds like everyone experienced the same issues all over again. I actually got there Saturday at around 8:30 and didnt get my visit until 10:30. I was standing outside in the sun which made it better than being out in the cold. Once I got into the D visiting room I was table 20 which allowed me to not have to share since I am close to the back with the kids. I understood that the first 10 tables are the first ones to be asked to leave if there is overcrowding. I agree their whole set up is wrong, my man said the CO were taking suggestions about the visiting arrangements, he said they even mentioned possibly allowing visits in the patios, which would be nice for the kids, and more space for the visits. Saturday in D yard they were not even taking pictures, which was dissapointing.

Ladies this is my first time visiting a prison but I have a lot of homegirls who tell me it is not like this were there husbands are at. The one thing my man did say that dispite all the dramam with the mail, and the one phone in his unit he has been told that his level 4 is like a resort in comparison to other level 4's. The visiting arrangements does discourage me from going to visit, its difficult on the kids and me i get so impatient with them. FOr the most part everyone sounded like they had a good visit. I wish i would have met some of you ladies.

India:p

INDIA: I to have gotten into the realization of the time we will have to do its not that much longer we are half way throught it right now, which is a blessing but its even harder when you have to do your time at Kern Valley, my hubby was just telling me how he hates it...and hopes to lower his points to get out of there but mean while one more year at Kern...Nothing is consistent and well we have to realize that most of the staff is new. Let me tell you that they should not have opened this place up I mean processing was more than a month instead of 14 -21 days and my mothern law hasnt even been approved yet either. They cant even go by the Title 15, they need to know this....

Yesterday a new CO in visiting room comes up to us and tells us no holding hands, HA HA HA, I told him according to title 15 blahblah blah we can, my hubby told him look your new here go ask the other CO and he will tell you that we get a kiss hug and holding hands about the only thing we get, he called somebody and came to apologize... Crazy but we kept on with our visit as I said we stay in a bubble the hole time...

SUSIE: Yes as far as I know it has always been 5 pictures per envelope, everywhere regardless of the levels 2-4 , including county jail has always been 5, and 20 envelopes and 2 tablets of paper but Iguess now its one...

AS far as the patio they do need to open it up my legs get crampy of sitting in those low tables, but they told me since it was a level 4 180 it wouldnt be open but hey they might have to with the over capacity. Another issue is the over capacity it is unsafe ad if the fire marshall came in to inspect they would close the room down all together so they have to figure something out.

ABout getting there early if we all get there early then soon as somebody said we will have to be there lined up at 4 am ...All I have to say is this place is a nut house and Im refering to the COs that operate the place... What happened to expereince these ppl have no exp. to bring with them, I mean so far there hasnt been a problem with the bathrooms, but they dont even have a bathroom log! I know that if they find something in there I dont want to be held back and stripped searched.

BUT LADIES CAN WE ALL AGREE TO SAY THAT WERE HAPPY TO HAVE SEEN THEM, JUST FOR A SECOND, yes its frustrating to think we have to go back there and deal with it again but we cant let that discourage us from going that is exactly what they want, I at least cant let them win...

LILONE: What do you mean there opening more yards? Thats CRAZY, where I think the prison it at capacity already or what is the rumor? I mean as far as inmates go? You know at the last place we were the COs were playing these funky tricks on us, they wanted us to complain about the long waits, so that they could get more funds for more staff, we knew what they were doing so we would just calmly go and wait our turn, be/c they were using us to voice for them , I dont think so, so it got better once it was all over but we never sent to mail regarding this issue... I hope this is not what they are trying to pull here.. I have no time for mind games!

MISS,

you know nothing stays consistant at this prison, I hear your fraustration. We are the only source of support these men have and the system is not making it easy on any of us. I dont think this makes their jobs easier, regardless the mail must be opened and reviewed, so go figure. Yeah my mans package took him 9 weeks, what kind of shit is that. I am already gettting ready to order his second package which should get to him right around when its time to order a new one.

Financially I feel the burden as well, I actually send him pictures copied on paper and I havent had them tell me any different yet, what do they do return them or give them to the inmate and advise them? Things can only get better than worst, I hope.... maybe i'm talking to soon.. Hang in there and let it out, cuz i know i have plenty days like this.

India:p
I sent 9 and they gave them all to him but it must have been then that they told him about the 5 only rule. I also print mine out on the computer too and as far as I know they can't say anything about that. And you know what India you and I live pretty close to one another. I live in Ojai. Too bad I can't visit or we could car pool.

I guess I did get in pretty quick after hearing everyone how long everyone else waited, 2 hours regardless is still a long time, with three impatient kids, believe that. Oh you were in D visiting, I was sitting closests to the windows facing the patio on Saturday, I was wearing a green shirt with a black cardigan, and black capris, I had three kids with me two boys and a girl. Oh I wish I would have none, I would so have gone up to you and introduced myself, of course once i'm there i am in my own world and dont even notice the people around me, maybe you can give me a quick discription of yourself, and see if I caught a glimpse of you.

Well regardless your right all these issues does not make things any easier on any of us but my man seems to be adjusting as funny as it sounds he is making the best of a jacked up situation. He just enjoys the visits with me and our kids, so at the end of the week all this bullshit means nothing to him. I just feel like it puts us all on point. Let me tell you something ladies I dont know how it is for all of you, but I feel like I have been able to be more physically involved with my man, without those crazy watchful eyes. Nothing perverse but just rubbing my back, rubbing his back, leaning in for an extra kiss here and there, dont get me wrong I tell him babes, I dont want our visits terminated and of course its very quick, we are not like at the theaters or anything making out.. Maybe at the end of the visit we do LOL HAHAHAAAAAAAAA.. my kids make remarks but i tell them, if me and your papi didnt kiss you wouldnt be here...

Before I would be the first one in the visiting room, first table in the front hated it, so for me it just pays off to get in later than sooner, so i can sit in the back and not be watched like a hawk..

I mean the CO have never given me or my family a hard time, so I have to give them that, they seem to be pretty relaxed in D yard. As far as I can see. I did see people sitting off away from tables so I am assuming they were asked for their tables, see with my whole crew I couldnt even do that. I would have to leave, so no pictures on Saturday did they take pics on Sunday?

India:p
hey you got in pretty quick on sat! i was there too; we were close then cuz we were at table 16 ;)

compared to the other level 4's mine has been this place is really good. even tho the visiting is taking a while to straighten out, the mail issue has been an issue everywhere. here he gets phone calls like crazy compared to his other place. he also told me how he was tlaking to the co's the other day and they told him this is how they are running this prison; as a programming level 4; instead of keeping all the inmates on lockdown all the time, they want to program them all the time and have them working and doing vocational and i guess see if it helps all of the drama issues or somehting.

:) mine just called me but im at work and my boss is right here :(( i hate when that happens. we had to cut our talk short. blech.

Or really you live in Ojai, I have a comadre that lives on the Avenue off of Stanley and I am out there all the time, I used to go out with a fool for years when I was 14 that lived in Ojai, what a small world, we definatley can carpool, that woud help me out to have conversation with someone besides my kids. I have the mom mobile a CHEVY Astro Van, let me know. We might as well we should help each other out, tu sabes.. We are all in the same situation. LEt me know whats up I go every two weeks, so I went this weekend I wont go the weekend of the 15 its my B-DAY 30 DIrty!!! I'll be celebrating at BOMBAYS, But I will be going the 22 or 23. I only head out one day, girl let me know whats up do you live in Ojai or Oakview? My good Old 805!!!!

India:p

I sent 9 and they gave them all to him but it must have been then that they told him about the 5 only rule. I also print mine out on the computer too and as far as I know they can't say anything about that. And you know what India you and I live pretty close to one another. I live in Ojai. Too bad I can't visit or we could car pool.

Or really you live in Ojai, I have a comadre that lives on the Avenue off of Stanley and I am out there all the time, I used to go out with a fool for years when I was 14 that lived in Ojai, what a small world, we definatley can carpool, that woud help me out to have conversation with someone besides my kids. I have the mom mobile a CHEVY Astro Van, let me know. We might as well we should help each other out, tu sabes.. We are all in the same situation. LEt me know whats up I go every two weeks, so I went this weekend I wont go the weekend of the 15 its my B-DAY 30 DIrty!!! I'll be celebrating at BOMBAYS, But I will be going the 22 or 23. I only head out one day, girl let me know whats up do you live in Ojai or Oakview? My good Old 805!!!!

India:p
I can't go visit right now because of my suspension but when I get them back in hopefully August or September we could totally go together. Man girl Bombays is the spot. Do you go there often? If so I'm sure we've seen eachother cause I go a couple of times a month. I just moved into Mira Monte from Oakview. What was the guys name that you dated? Cause you know in Ojai everybody knows everybody.

Well I dont hit Bombays often I have been a few times, I'm telling you until my man was incarcerated I was strictly wife and mom. So for 8 years if I went out it was strcitly with my man and kids, and of course now I am able to get out and be with my girls and have nice clean fun ocassional nights out. We will be there on Saturday celebrating with a good group of gente, me and a friend are both celebrating b-days. I went out with a guy name Jimmy Butler they called him Sandman, I went out with him years and years ago. From the time I was 14-16 you figure I am going to be 30 so that was a long time ago, he was my first serious boyfriend. What a small world, que no? I'm glad to hear we are so close to each other. Were is your man from is he from the 805 too?

I'm sorry your right about your suspended visits, I forgot.. Regardless I will still be visitng my papi chulo so we can still hook up. We will have to hook up one of these weekends regardless. Do you have children?

I can't go visit right now because of my suspension but when I get them back in hopefully August or September we could totally go together. Man girl Bombays is the spot. Do you go there often? If so I'm sure we've seen eachother cause I go a couple of times a month. I just moved into Mira Monte from Oakview. What was the guys name that you dated? Cause you know in Ojai everybody knows everybody.

Well I dont hit Bombays often I have been a few times, I'm telling you until my man was incarcerated I was strictly wife and mom. So for 8 years if I went out it was strcitly with my man and kids, and of course now I am able to get out and be with my girls and have nice clean fun ocassional nights out. We will be there on Saturday celebrating with a good group of gente, me and a friend are both celebrating b-days. I went out with a guy name Jimmy Butler they called him Sandman, I went out with him years and years ago. From the time I was 14-16 you figure I am going to be 30 so that was a long time ago, he was my first serious boyfriend. What a small world, que no? I'm glad to hear we are so close to each other. Were is your man from is he from the 805 too?

I'm sorry your right about your suspended visits, I forgot.. Regardless I will still be visitng my papi chulo so we can still hook up. We will have to hook up one of these weekends regardless. Do you have children?

I go to Bombays like 1 a month maybe and its a cool place to hang out. I'd have to say I've never heard of Jimmy Butler but I'm about 5 years younger so maybe thats why. My man isn't from the 805. He's from San Bernardino but when he gets released he will be an 805 man. Yeah I do have children. I have 2 girls. One is 8 and the other will be 4 at the end of the month. We will definitely have to hook up.

Kay girls I will check ya'll out tomorrow cause its quittin time for me. Stay safe in this rain.

as frusterating as the visiting is over here, for the most part, at least for my husband, this place is a million times better than where he came from. he had been on lockdown non stop for a year and a half and they are still on lockdown to this day over there, so that alone we cant complain; we also get phone calls now that we didnt have before so really i cant complain. i agree they werent ready to open this place at all, but the fact that they at least program for us is a million times better than what we had before.

i dont know how we will do it; the old place we had to be in the car line by 5 am which stinks. i really dont want to have to do that again since kern valley is close enough for me to get up at 4 am and bet here in 2 hours, not needing to drive up on friday night, but i dont see that lasting with the way things seem to be going with as many people as we have over here.

LOL you know what i am so in my own world too haha i cant even remember what i wore on saturday; i had black jeans and i think a dark gray t shirt. we were close to the vending machines which was ok. better than being the front table. man i hate that!

mine is liking it over there for the most part; but where he came from was crappy so anything is better than that place was. im happy you guys had a good visit! hahha my kids make fun of us too and i just tell them wahtever we see each other once a week get over it haha. but i dont bring them with me each itme. sometimes we just need the time alone without them trying to hog the attention too. and mine are teenagers so they always want attention!

but i agree with you that even though there are issues, it is prison and there are always going to be issues, but we were just saying today that all the BS is worth it knowing we can see each other every week now :)

I guess I did get in pretty quick after hearing everyone how long everyone else waited, 2 hours regardless is still a long time, with three impatient kids, believe that. Oh you were in D visiting, I was sitting closests to the windows facing the patio on Saturday, I was wearing a green shirt with a black cardigan, and black capris, I had three kids with me two boys and a girl. Oh I wish I would have none, I would so have gone up to you and introduced myself, of course once i'm there i am in my own world and dont even notice the people around me, maybe you can give me a quick discription of yourself, and see if I caught a glimpse of you.

Well regardless your right all these issues does not make things any easier on any of us but my man seems to be adjusting as funny as it sounds he is making the best of a jacked up situation. He just enjoys the visits with me and our kids, so at the end of the week all this bullshit means nothing to him. I just feel like it puts us all on point. Let me tell you something ladies I dont know how it is for all of you, but I feel like I have been able to be more physically involved with my man, without those crazy watchful eyes. Nothing perverse but just rubbing my back, rubbing his back, leaning in for an extra kiss here and there, dont get me wrong I tell him babes, I dont want our visits terminated and of course its very quick, we are not like at the theaters or anything making out.. Maybe at the end of the visit we do LOL HAHAHAAAAAAAAA.. my kids make remarks but i tell them, if me and your papi didnt kiss you wouldnt be here...

Before I would be the first one in the visiting room, first table in the front hated it, so for me it just pays off to get in later than sooner, so i can sit in the back and not be watched like a hawk..

I mean the CO have never given me or my family a hard time, so I have to give them that, they seem to be pretty relaxed in D yard. As far as I can see. I did see people sitting off away from tables so I am assuming they were asked for their tables, see with my whole crew I couldnt even do that. I would have to leave, so no pictures on Saturday did they take pics on Sunday?

India:p

I got a letter today, from my man and he said they searched their rooms on the 5th, (he is in A 4) but the lockdown is expected to last at least a couple more weeks. He wrote this to me on the 6th. So it probably be sometime next week at the earliest,:( that the lockdown might end. If I get a call, or hear anything else, I will let you know.Has anyone heard anything about the lock down on yard A yet?

well

WELL THT CO TOLD US, WE R OPENING MORE YARD'S... RIGHT KNOW THEY HAVE 5 YARD'S OPEN....A,B,C,D, AND E.... I DONT KNOW IF THT WAS JUST ARUMOR JUST TO FU@^ WITH US...BUT THT CO TOLD US.... SOME LADY TOLD HIM THEY SHOULD DO THT VISITING ROOM MORE BIGER OR SOMETHING.. CAUSE THIS IS JUST BULLSHIT.. WHAT THEY DOIN TO R VISITS....

I totally agree, I think there needs to be a medium were their can be a compromise on the visitors part and on the correctional department. I think if they were open to suggestions they would be surprised to hear what we have to say, I think they assume if the give us an inch we'll want to take a mile, and that is not necessarily true. I dont think they necessarily realize what type of financial burden it is on us just to make the trip and then find out we only are getting 4 hour visits.

They are not emoitonally invested into the situation so they can not relate to our frustrations, I honestley believe that visits are on the bottom of their priority list. They need to address their other issues they have with the prison to Sacramento, but CO are exactly like the inmates they show loyalty to each other, and are way to consummed by their jobs, do what you have to do to make your job easier and less stressful, and since they dont guess whatwhen the weekend comes around they are on such power trips its ridiculous. Ladies lets stay patient..

India:p


WELL THT CO TOLD US, WE R OPENING MORE YARD'S... RIGHT KNOW THEY HAVE 5 YARD'S OPEN....A,B,C,D, AND E.... I DONT KNOW IF THT WAS JUST ARUMOR JUST TO FU@^ WITH US...BUT THT CO TOLD US.... SOME LADY TOLD HIM THEY SHOULD DO THT VISITING ROOM MORE BIGER OR SOMETHING.. CAUSE THIS IS JUST BULLSHIT.. WHAT THEY DOIN TO R VISITS....

India im with you. . . . i think the co's get frusterated with the visitors who are up in their faces complaining but not offering any suggestions and placing the blame on that particular co (i have seen this with the guy who is outside processing handing out passes. he always tries to be really nice and helpful to everyone but i have seen him get reamed by frusterated visitors).

The real question is, how do we find out who to talk to to offer suggestions without pissing them off, ya know? to be helpful not add to their frusterations and stuff. i can see from their point of view how stressful it is also; the co's who are processing us dont make the decisions on how it is going to happen, they just do as they are told yet they have to listen to the complaints from frusterated visitors. i would get irritated if i was them too.

at the same time, to spend the money and the time it takes to get there and then only have a coupke hours or like lil ones friend, i have seen her in visit sitting there over an hour and a half and only getting a 20 minute visit. now that is just ridicculous also. so i can see the frusterations on everyones end.

so what can we do to help the situation? anyone have any ideas? i was thinking if we could all call the visiting sgt; but that would get overwhelming to her. maybe we should have one spokesperson appointed for us to call and talk to her or something like that????

I totally agree, I think there needs to be a medium were their can be a compromise on the visitors part and on the correctional department. I think if they were open to suggestions they would be surprised to hear what we have to say, I think they assume if the give us an inch we'll want to take a mile, and that is not necessarily true. I dont think they necessarily realize what type of financial burden it is on us just to make the trip and then find out we only are getting 4 hour visits.

They are not emoitonally invested into the situation so they can not relate to our frustrations, I honestley believe that visits are on the bottom of their priority list. They need to address their other issues they have with the prison to Sacramento, but CO are exactly like the inmates they show loyalty to each other, and are way to consummed by their jobs, do what you have to do to make your job easier and less stressful, and since they dont guess whatwhen the weekend comes around they are on such power trips its ridiculous. Ladies lets stay patient..

India:p

I think it we should call and complain idividually. If they get overwhelmed with phone calls, so be it. This is a very overwhelming situation for us. Its not going to get better, its only going to get worse. They need to realize that there is a whole lot of people driving quite a distance for visits that are lasting less than an hour. I saw one lady wait for 3 hours only to be told the inmate wasnt allowed visits with minors. That is ridiculus. There is volume in numbers! What about the Inmate Family Council, what is going on with that???

oh my gosh i feel bad for that lady! that is a crock shouldnt they let you know when you get approved to visit that the person isnt allowed a visit with a minor or something?

I think it we should call and complain idividually. If they get overwhelmed with phone calls, so be it. This is a very overwhelming situation for us. Its not going to get better, its only going to get worse. They need to realize that there is a whole lot of people driving quite a distance for visits that are lasting less than an hour. I saw one lady wait for 3 hours only to be told the inmate wasnt allowed visits with minors. That is ridiculus. There is volume in numbers! What about the Inmate Family Council, what is going on with that???

Yeah and while ya'll are doing this you wanna ask for my visits back too!!:p

of course we will ;) you didnt really think we would forget all about you now did you misssusie?

Yeah and while ya'll are doing this you wanna ask for my visits back too!!:p

Hey there ladies,
well I just got off the phone with my man and he said that it's a really big thing in there too, we are upset on our end and the inmate are as well.

What I think we need to do is not only call and complain but we need to also put it in writing. I myself only had a 2 1/2 hr visit on Sat and 2 hour visit on Sunday and I came from Phoenix AZ!! There was a girl that was there from Ohio and she got about the same and she said she spent over 1000 dollars just to get out there. That's insane!!!

We really need to get out thinking caps on and research who we are going to contact and write letters too. Also we need to stress the processing and the inconsistency on how one CO can say a persons clothing is okay and then when the person gets up there another CO says it's not okay. That is ridiculous!! My man is up for helping out in this mission on expressing our concerns and advise on what could make the visiting process go smoother.
He mentioned a posting in the prison about all the problems, he mentioned not enough space, having to wait outside, walking the 1/2 mile haha and the unprofessional-ism of the staff. I know that the set up of the processing is not the processing CO's fault but its the fault of the person who makes those choices which would be their superior, but as an employee of the institution they have their input to make their job go smoother. It comes from all aspects which would be the visitors, the staff and the inmates. So we really need to do this now and not wait because like they say, do it when it happens while it's fresh. So I am on my way to writing a letter to send to the person in charge of this whole mess, and air my concerns and suggestions in this matter. I know that the inmates are going to do their part and help us from the inside but we have to be up on it too out here. So if anyone needs anything send me a PM and let's get this ball rolling so that way by the time I get out there again I can have a decent visit. If not then I know what I'll have to do and I have to get there at 1AM and camp out haha we really should not have to do that but hey if nothing changes, I'll be that one out there in the field with my lantern and my camping gear. ha ha just kidding but yea let's get this problem resolved I know we can do it !!!!!

I really wish I could help ya'll but I haven't been to visit in a while and I haven't experienced it first hand. When I was going it wasn't this bad. Let me know if I can help with anything and I will be glad to. Besides that having me on y'alls side might do you more harm then good since they apparently don't like me :p . If it doesn't work out and things don't get better just let me know, I have a 3 room tent that y'all can borrow to camp out and maybe you can even rent out one of the rooms :D . Ha Ha Ha j/k but I bet y'all smiled.:thumbsup:

LOL iu think that is the solution right there. . . . if we all set up tents in the field they might get sick of us being out there and decide to do things better. :D

I am going saturday and want to wait and see how it goes with the passes this time since last weekend they said they were going to try handing them out at the gate :rolleyes: so anyone else going this weekend too, make sure to let them know if this worked or didnt work so they will have some feedback from us.

brownsqueen: it sucks having to get in a car line beore the buttcrack of dawn; where my husband was before, they had the pass system down and processing down pretty well; but you had to be in the car line no later than 5 am, sit there on the side of the road for an hour and a half, drive thorugh a line to get your numbered pass at 630 am then come back about 830-9 am to get called and processed. when you have so many people going to visit its hard to get everyone in fast. but hpefully we can figure something out so we dont have to camp out on the side of the road cuz honestly i for one really hate getting no sleep at all the night before, then you are barely awake for your visit; then trying to drive you ass home is not cool. . . . :(

I really wish I could help ya'll but I haven't been to visit in a while and I haven't experienced it first hand. When I was going it wasn't this bad. Let me know if I can help with anything and I will be glad to. Besides that having me on y'alls side might do you more harm then good since they apparently don't like me :p . If it doesn't work out and things don't get better just let me know, I have a 3 room tent that y'all can borrow to camp out and maybe you can even rent out one of the rooms :D . Ha Ha Ha j/k but I bet y'all smiled.:thumbsup:

lAST SATURDAY WAS MY FIRST VISIT AND I WOULD SAY IT WENT PRETTY WELL I GOT THERE AT 6:50 AND LIKE AT 7:30-7:45 THEY STARTED PASSING OUT THE PASSES I GOT NUMBER 19 AND IT WENT PRETTY FAST BUT THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE UPSET AND ALOT OF PEOPLE PUSHED ME TO GET IN FRONT OF ME BUT I JUST WAITED FOR MY NUMBER TO BE CALLED I GOT IN BY 8:30 AND SEEN HIM BEFORE 9 it was good around 12:30-1:00 is when it started to get really packed we too had to share our table but we just zoned out into eachother we got the whole visit hopefully they continue to give out the passes at the gate i think it works out better but then im not sure how they use to do it
after having what i thought would be the best day in a long time i had the worst thing happen to me
i got robbed:( at a gas station once i got to gilroy i cant believe it i was soooo scared i was dropping my sister and her friend in gilroy i stopped to put gas and when i came back to the car there was like 12 guys around my car i just thought they knew them i walked up and one guy grabbed me and told me not to say anything they took my purse ,my cell phone ,my wallet with everything i had they puictures i just took with anthony were in there also (our first pictures) but i just thank god we are alive im sooo scared to go anywhere now all they took was our belongings we had a angel watching over us that night

well now it's going to be awhile til i can go see anthony because my only drivers license was in my wallet now i have to wait 6 weeks:mad: to get it in the mail

well girls just be careful out there be safe thanks for listening to my sad story
i cant wait to see my baby again

Liz Whoa girlie that is nothing nice I am just thankful to God that you are okay!! Thanks to the Lord almighty!! So you had to share a table hmm I wonder if your neighbors were nice haha well me and my man were all into each other we hadn't seen each other since January so it was a good feeling! Well I hope to see ya there again and probably by the time you get your Id I'll be visiting again so hope to see you soon and hopefully we won't have to share a table !!! lol

lAST SATURDAY WAS MY FIRST VISIT AND I WOULD SAY IT WENT PRETTY WELL I GOT THERE AT 6:50 AND LIKE AT 7:30-7:45 THEY STARTED PASSING OUT THE PASSES I GOT NUMBER 19 AND IT WENT PRETTY FAST BUT THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE UPSET AND ALOT OF PEOPLE PUSHED ME TO GET IN FRONT OF ME BUT I JUST WAITED FOR MY NUMBER TO BE CALLED I GOT IN BY 8:30 AND SEEN HIM BEFORE 9 it was good around 12:30-1:00 is when it started to get really packed we too had to share our table but we just zoned out into eachother we got the whole visit hopefully they continue to give out the passes at the gate i think it works out better but then im not sure how they use to do it
after having what i thought would be the best day in a long time i had the worst thing happen to me
i got robbed:( at a gas station once i got to gilroy i cant believe it i was soooo scared i was dropping my sister and her friend in gilroy i stopped to put gas and when i came back to the car there was like 12 guys around my car i just thought they knew them i walked up and one guy grabbed me and told me not to say anything they took my purse ,my cell phone ,my wallet with everything i had they puictures i just took with anthony were in there also (our first pictures) but i just thank god we are alive im sooo scared to go anywhere now all they took was our belongings we had a angel watching over us that night

well now it's going to be awhile til i can go see anthony because my only drivers license was in my wallet now i have to wait 6 weeks:mad: to get it in the mail

well girls just be careful out there be safe thanks for listening to my sad story
i cant wait to see my baby again

LIZ~ IM SORRY TO HEAR THT... WELL I HOPE EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT... AND YOUR ALRIGHT NOTHING HAPPEN TO YOU... :) . TAKE CARE GIRL DONT BE SCARED EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE.... THOSE 6 WEEKS GOE FAST...

OMG Liz!!!! Thank God you are ok. Everything they took can be replaced, you cant.

WOW! Liz i am so happy yo hear that you are ok and they just took your possessions. . . though i would be freaking out about the drivers license more than anything right afterwards i am thankful you had an angel around you and that you are ok!

LIZ : You dont have a reg ID? I have back up, if you take the INTERIM ID (paper) with a valid other form of ID, you might want to ask what is ok for them, be/c I saw this one lady with a paper ID but I didnt notice what other form of id she had, that way you dotn have to wait so long.. That way you can replace those pic's, even though you cant replace that exact moment its captured in your mind. I wonder who you were since I must of sat right next to you at visit? I dont remember seeing any bald inmates (per your pic on your username) next to me, ok there was one but he had his mom visiting him? Im just glad your visit went well, be/c material things can be replaced...

Where is Gilroy? It sounds like omething Ive never heard of so its got to be up north past fresno right? Be/c I dont know about you ladies but when I put gas I totally leave my door unlocked, I usually pay with my card next to the pump, but I better be more wathcful, did you call the cops? They have video surveilance you know just in case they get robbed...

Visits with minors, the inmate knows what restrictions he has and its up to him to tell his visitors. I met this one lady this weekend who I exchanged number with who they called up there, she asked if they could do that, her grandaughter was not able to visit, her uncle,but could visit her dad, (there both crimees) and that before she was able to, I explained to her the situation and that she better visit before they catch up and restrict both guys... This weekend they were more aware of these restrictions I noti