JaimeeLynn
02-27-2006, 05:25 PM
I got this from one of my lifer groups.........
(Due to PTO policy, I did not include the email address to reply to this matter. PM me if you would like address.)
Hi everyone,
I have an issue I need to bring to the table. This is a bit long,
but very important and I need the input of not only CTF Soledad
visitors, but other facilities as well, so I would appreciate if
everyone would take a moment to read my post. The IFC for CTF
Soledad has just advised that the Warden would like to implement a
test run for visiting as follows:
He would like to change visiting on the weekends to odd and even
days. How that would work is if the last 2 numbers of our loved ones
is even, all even numbers would visit on Saturday and not Sunday. It
would alternate weekly so in the end we would end up with 2 Saturdays
and 2 Sundays per month only. He said he felt it would help with
terminations and maybe visitors can get a full days visit instead of
the 2 hours most have been getting recently. It was asked if he can
guarantee that visitors would NOT BE TERMINATED, he said no, he could
not guarantee no terminations.
He said that there are a couple of facilities that do this and it
works for them, I believe he mentioned Solano and Vacaville, so
please, anyone visiting these facilities or a facility that does have
this procedure, please get back to me and let me know how this works
for you. I would also like to know if any facility has in fact got
Friday visit back. Lastly, does San Quentin have Thursday & Friday
visits? Please confirm.
I passed this issue along to the other visitors and their loved ones
in visiting this weekend and about 99.9% had an ephatic NO to
implement this procedure. I was informed by IFC that we have to put
together some real issues as to why we feel this will not work for
our facility, or since he believes it will work, he will just
implement it on a trial run.
Now, we all know that when something is taken away from us, it is
hard to get it back. If this comes into play, the warden
has "promised" that if it does not work, he will put it back. Many
of us do not trust him to do so. Who's opinion is it that it works
or not??? Visitors or Staff??? He should be fighting to get our
Fridays back which we have been advised that there was money
allocated for this, but either there is not enough staff to do it or
more recently we were told that the numbers our facility reported to
Sacramento were not accurate to reflect how badly we need the Fridays
back. We could really shoot ourselves in the foot if we don't look
at this serious and get the issues out there on the Pros and Cons for
this.
So far the only Pro is that we MIGHT get a full day 1 time a week.
So far, can't think of any other Pro.
The con's are so many so far, I will list a few for food for thought:
1. What about family that comes every 3 months, every 6 months, or
every year or more? They only get 1 day for the weekend????
2. What about families and friends from out of state? All that
drive for 1 day??? And even if visiting for the both days is
granted, how badly would if affect the room with respects for
capacity?
3. What about if there are more odd numbered inmates then even? or
vise versa?
Please everyone, get back to me on your input so I can put together
something for our IFC reps to bring to the table at the next IFC
meeting. IFC meets every 2 Friday of the Month. Let's look into
this together and fight for the right decision for all involved, not
just what would suit ourselves, but let's look at the big picture.
Please do not hesitate to e-mail me if you have any further questions
on this, and thank you so much for taking time to read this long
post! I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks,
Yvonne Chavez
(Due to PTO policy, I did not include the email address to reply to this matter. PM me if you would like address.)
Hi everyone,
I have an issue I need to bring to the table. This is a bit long,
but very important and I need the input of not only CTF Soledad
visitors, but other facilities as well, so I would appreciate if
everyone would take a moment to read my post. The IFC for CTF
Soledad has just advised that the Warden would like to implement a
test run for visiting as follows:
He would like to change visiting on the weekends to odd and even
days. How that would work is if the last 2 numbers of our loved ones
is even, all even numbers would visit on Saturday and not Sunday. It
would alternate weekly so in the end we would end up with 2 Saturdays
and 2 Sundays per month only. He said he felt it would help with
terminations and maybe visitors can get a full days visit instead of
the 2 hours most have been getting recently. It was asked if he can
guarantee that visitors would NOT BE TERMINATED, he said no, he could
not guarantee no terminations.
He said that there are a couple of facilities that do this and it
works for them, I believe he mentioned Solano and Vacaville, so
please, anyone visiting these facilities or a facility that does have
this procedure, please get back to me and let me know how this works
for you. I would also like to know if any facility has in fact got
Friday visit back. Lastly, does San Quentin have Thursday & Friday
visits? Please confirm.
I passed this issue along to the other visitors and their loved ones
in visiting this weekend and about 99.9% had an ephatic NO to
implement this procedure. I was informed by IFC that we have to put
together some real issues as to why we feel this will not work for
our facility, or since he believes it will work, he will just
implement it on a trial run.
Now, we all know that when something is taken away from us, it is
hard to get it back. If this comes into play, the warden
has "promised" that if it does not work, he will put it back. Many
of us do not trust him to do so. Who's opinion is it that it works
or not??? Visitors or Staff??? He should be fighting to get our
Fridays back which we have been advised that there was money
allocated for this, but either there is not enough staff to do it or
more recently we were told that the numbers our facility reported to
Sacramento were not accurate to reflect how badly we need the Fridays
back. We could really shoot ourselves in the foot if we don't look
at this serious and get the issues out there on the Pros and Cons for
this.
So far the only Pro is that we MIGHT get a full day 1 time a week.
So far, can't think of any other Pro.
The con's are so many so far, I will list a few for food for thought:
1. What about family that comes every 3 months, every 6 months, or
every year or more? They only get 1 day for the weekend????
2. What about families and friends from out of state? All that
drive for 1 day??? And even if visiting for the both days is
granted, how badly would if affect the room with respects for
capacity?
3. What about if there are more odd numbered inmates then even? or
vise versa?
Please everyone, get back to me on your input so I can put together
something for our IFC reps to bring to the table at the next IFC
meeting. IFC meets every 2 Friday of the Month. Let's look into
this together and fight for the right decision for all involved, not
just what would suit ourselves, but let's look at the big picture.
Please do not hesitate to e-mail me if you have any further questions
on this, and thank you so much for taking time to read this long
post! I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks,
Yvonne Chavez