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fish_undercover 02-11-2006, 07:48 PM The problem is this. My p.o. insists that I tell ANY employer that I'm a felon (whether they ask or not) because he's defining "3rd party risk" farrrr too loosely in my mind. I do administrative work and there are girls like me everywhere. Without felonies. Every time I tell someone I get fired. This has been going on for like 5 months now and i can't handle the stress of wondering how the heck I'm gonna pay my rent every single month. Do I have any recourse? I mean can I go back in front of the judge and tell them that the employer is really not at risk? It's like the p.o. won't be happy until I'm flippin burgers at Mcdonald's, which btw, is a wage that I simply cannot survive on. It really burns me too because before i surrendered, the very same office (federal probation) did a pre-sentencing investigation where they contacted EVERY SINGLE ONE of my past employers. Now all but one said they would hire me back. so, how bad of a risk can I be? My charge was counterfeiting currency, so I would understand if i was trying to be a bank teller or something, but a secretary? for the love of god, it's like he WANTS me to go back. I can't take it anymore. I swear. I understand why recidivism is so high. They're making it impossible for me to support myself. oh i get so frustrated I start crying. I don't know what to do and I can't afford a lawyer. anybody?
jdcjmc1 02-11-2006, 08:10 PM If your job did a background check and did not find it than i do not see why you have to tell them ut on the application it does ask have you ever been convicted of a felony. Did you say no? But either way i don't think your p.o. needs to be an a** about it.
Jonathan 02-12-2006, 12:16 PM Honestly, I do not see where you have to tell anyone you are a felon unless the specifically ask, are you a felon, have you ever been convicted.
Best of luck to you, have you thought about getting federally bonded? This started along time ago to give incentive to employers to hire High risk groups. You are insured and it protects your employer from theft, deceit, etc.?
Faithisthekey 02-15-2006, 04:52 PM I had this happen to me while I was going on bonb. The guy who was doing my pre-sentencing report sent a note to the judge and said that he felt that my job a third party risk. The Judge told him not to notify him let me do it. So I told the A-hole that I did notify my employer. He still went behind my back and called my job. Eventually I got fired. I was mad because the judge simply said for him not to notify my job because he didn't want me to lose my job.
This was before I got sentenced. My job really had no valid reason to fire me so they had to give me unemploment. So now I'm just at home with my children until I surreder which is March 20th!
Abner 02-16-2006, 10:56 AM fish:
If you're on probation, or parole, you'll have to follow their rules, if that's a term of the release. Break them, get caught, and it's back inside you go.
As I'm sure you know.
If your probation or supe release isn't that long, the best thing might be to try to find something in a line of work where the bosses don't care about a felony background, admittedly tough, but better than getting rejected all the time.
Once the term is up, they won't have any more control over you.
best
abner
Lukesgirl 02-17-2006, 11:11 PM I believe the don't ask ....don't tell thing is good. though I do not know personally, but when my fiance' was out we had that problem. No one wanted to fire him because he had trafficking of drugs on his record. Good Luck to you!!!!
tekela 09-27-2006, 07:22 AM I truly know that some employers are narrow minded. If they ask on the application and you lie then they have the right to terminate you.
Are you lying on the application? A good employer will hire you if you are a good worker and will take a chance. Therefore, I found it easier to be honest.
They key word is "good employer". I believe though if an employer would have hired you and found out you lied they will still fire you if they find out the truth.
I had a friend who lied and worked a wonderful job for seven years and was a good employee for a fortune five hundred company. One day she came to work and a person who she had been in prison with was working there. The new employee told the boss how wonderful it was to see someone who offered second chances to ex-offenders like the two of them, and my friend was fired for lying on her application. Yet, if she had told the truth then she probably would have gotten the job any way.
I personally was working for a law office and I disclosed the truth. My friend who was working there got a job at a new company with wonderful benefits and more money. She said their policy was no felons. I had a year to wait to be able to get my record expunged. I waited until I was expunged. I applied, I was hired in management. I then found out that 10% or more of the employees were felons and some were still on paper. I could have had a better job a year earlier.
Their written policy was not to hire felons. However, they still did and currently still do. They have close to 700 locations. I refer many people to try that company for employment. It is a collection agency and even though they have government contracts and contracts with clients they assure that no felons will work there, they have plenty. A local news station found out that they were collecting on government loans and debts and exposed the company for having employed felons. However, the federal nor the state government never pulled their contracts.
A few months ago while on this site I PM someone the name of the company they applied and were hired.
The statistic is 1 in 7 Americans are felons and they all have to be working somewhere.
Keep trying! A good employer will hire you regardless of your record.
jdcjmc1 09-27-2006, 09:37 PM Also, the goodwill willhire exfelons and that is what they specialize in. If you go onto their website and look them up you can find the info.
remiella 09-27-2006, 10:16 PM Hi Fish_Undercover
Maybe your PO is creating all this turmoil in your life for a reason. Does he investigate behind your back the employment application you filed with every employer and discovers you have not revealed your felony? Then pressures you to explain your employer the felony. It might be a possibility. When I was on supervised release they made sure my employer knew I had a felony. My suggestion is to have an open talk with your parole officer. Ask him if he feels you are not fullfilling the requirements of your supervised release and then tactfully explain that being fired every month is putting a strain on your mental and financial situation. Explain that you understand that your employer is entitled to know about your felony but do you really have to go out of your way to reveal your background. I wonder how long your probation is. I am wishing you strength.
Peace
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