View Full Version : Richard's In the Hole


torrey
05-24-2002, 01:10 PM
This is part of a 5 page letter Richard sent me. He claims the DOC knew about his lawsuit he had been working on to file against them. He had to mail it out to meet deadline.

They made up some bogus right up to ship him off to the hole so he could not file the law case. He beat them by just 4 hours. The appeal and suit is hitting th courts right about now. Although Richard is locked up. One CO told him he could hang a towel over the east window so he could sleep during the day since he worked nights.

Another CO came in and wrote him up for it. 30 days in the hole for a towel in the window.

Here is just a small part of his letter.

Coming in the segregation Unit-when they packed me from A south they had me put on shower shoes no socks- I brought my glasses and my New World Bible, address book, and 5 stamps. Coming in they had me bend over and spread -show them nuts and inside mouth- then gave me an orange pants and pulled over smock orange - put my hand in hole in door -cuffed and escorted by two guards at all times holding both elbows- cuffed with two guards holding elbows you think -it cannot get out of hand- But it does now and again so I guess it is safe to say- Im a threat or at least they treat me like Hannibal Lector at times. Recall here an inmate got pissed off and came out stabbing a guard with his make shift steel piece he managed to obscured - sharpened on concrete floor -he came out stabbing one guard - another guard came to help - he got his throat cut and bled out- died. - inmate continued scabbing ib the first guard - stabbed him 16 times . The article I read stated emotional damages, physical pain complications from stab wounds and traumatized permanent disability, I wonder if he ever thought - emotional damages , physical pain, complications from wounds- trauma i.e. Perm. Disabilities - he was inflicting on inmate day after day 24-7 before inmate ‘couldn't take it any more' Nobody ever thinks about that part They say - you can't keep kicking a dog in the teeth, Everybody realizes humans can be meaner than dogs.

Well lunch finally came. It's a 8x10 " plastic coffee no milk- inside a small splat of oatmeal , small piece of ham, and 2 french toast. I waited all morning for that and it took almost 200 seconds to eat it with manners. That's how they get to us here.—Starve us down -Repression.
Keep us hungry- that way we'll hibernate from one meal to the next . That's how to beat hunger pains -sleep-go to- sleep and wake up when food cart is here again. This is the hole. I've been many times, I did 52 days at OSR in cell with no lights , no heat, no shoes, broken window facing north east. After they took my clothes and shoes they gave me 2 sheets and 1 blanket and 30 mph north east winds blew directly in my cell. It snowed 2" that weekend. I spent Thanksgiving, Christmas and News Years in the hole. Not guilty of what they said I did. I reversed ˝ the MCR they issued. The snow storm, Dark weekend , no heat, no shoes or clothes I reversed the charges.......................

I met deadline Beat MACC, Rats, Admin., and Staff. I beat them by 4 hours.........................

danielle
05-24-2002, 06:34 PM
I am sorry to hear he is in the hole. It's so frustrating, isn't it?

Shortie
05-24-2002, 07:11 PM
that is such bs at least he got the case out that is so great.. let's just pray for a favorable outcome..

sherri13
05-28-2002, 01:47 PM
IT MAKES ME SICK TO HEAR OF THIS MALTREATMENT OVER AND OVER AGAIN-ARE POEPLE JUST IMMUNE TO THE ATROCITY OF IT BECAUSE IT IS SO COMMON-PLACE? GOD, I PRAY NOT.

jdswifey02
05-28-2002, 03:38 PM
Torrey... I can totally relate to how frustrating it is to get letters like that and to have to try to live with knowing everything they have to go through... JD has been in seg since 1/16/02 and is looking at not getting out of seg til 7/16/04.... It seems like just when you think it's getting better, they find a way to make it worse... JD recently upset some COs for speaking up for a guy having a seizure, so they put him in a cell with a solid steel door... no sunlight, no ventilation.. they left him in there overnight without any of his property.. no mattress or sheet even... when they did bring his property back his fan was broken.... I am glad your guy got his papers out... hopefully he can dwell in the satisfaction of that for these 30 days and he will find some justice in the end....

B-Ray
05-28-2002, 10:32 PM
>>>ARE POEPLE JUST IMMUNE TO THE ATROCITY<<<

It is a developed way of thinking that comes easy for some people.

I think, the general public at large, wants those types in those jobs.

If people on the street was asked, what type of a person they would want to control inmates, most likely it would be, a hard nosed, seasoned, get in your face, 1st sargent, loud mouth, break them down until they comply type.

Anyway, that's how I see the masses in general.

aprilcat
05-29-2002, 05:54 AM
*sigh* i still wonder how in the world the us can be considered the world's most sophisticated society when our treatment of prisoners continues to be one of the most brutal ( this includes the use of the death penalty ).... :(

torrey, richard is in my thoughts....

CREAMYALMONDZ
05-30-2002, 08:46 AM
That is terrible!

soraya
05-30-2002, 09:11 AM
that's really had news...must be so frustrating. i hope he'll will the lawsuit no matter what!

Budwoman
06-03-2002, 09:46 AM
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT BRAY.... THIS SEEMS TO BE THE GENERAL CONCENSUS OF ALL PERSONS WHO ARE ON THE OUTSIDE... THEY HAVE THE IDEA THAT ALL INMATES ARE VISCIOUS AND MEAN AND NEED TO BE TREATED AS ANIMALS... WHERE DO WE COME IN? WE TRY OUR VERY BEST TO MAKE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH.... THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE STUPID MISTAKES.... THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE TREATED THE WAY THEY ARE.... I HEARD ON TV LAST NIGHT ON THE NEWS THAT THE UNITED STATES HAD MORE INMATES GOING BACK TO PRISON THAN ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. THE REASON WAS "BECAUSE OUR SENTENCES ARE TOO LENIENT" HOW REALLY STUPID CAN PEOPLE BE.... SOMEHOW WE MUST GET THE REAL TRUTH OUT....

WHEN YOU TREAT PEOPLE LIKE ANIMALS, THEY BEGIN TO ACT LIKE ANIMALS AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME..... THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN.... OUR NEWS MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HAVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC BELIEVING A TOTALLY DIFFERENT STORY.


DONNA

DJohnson
06-03-2002, 10:58 AM
I agree w/you Donna on that 1!!

What about talking about REFORM (classes, counseling, etc.) for inmates while they are incarcerated? That would probably be asking too much out of the prison systems here in the states!! The general idea of the prison systems here (to me) seem to be "Why bother, they are going to do it again?" Makes me so sick & just ticks me off to no end!

sherri13
06-03-2002, 12:50 PM
BWOMAN AND DJ- A AGREE WITH YOU BOTH

THERE IS A QUOTE BY GOETHE I REALLY LIKE AND BELIEVE.

"TREAT A MAN AS HE IS AND HE WILL REMAIN AS HE IS. TREAT A MAN AS HE SHOULD BE AND HE WILL BECOME AS HE CAN AND SHOULD BE"

WISH THE DOC WOULD READ IT

torrey
06-07-2002, 10:55 AM
Richard is out of the hole now. Due to a small uprising they needed the bed space for the more violent fighters and released him early.
Thanks for you kind words of support for him.

soraya
06-10-2002, 04:39 AM
glad to hear he's out the hole!

Budwoman
06-10-2002, 01:39 PM
Yea- I am too...

Anytime a law suit is filed against the DOC, the inmate does go through a major battle.... It is tho they try to break him.... Butch has had the very same thing happen to him immediately after filing a law suit....

Tell Richard to stay strong both mentally and physically..

My Prayers to you both...

Love Ya
Donna

sherri13
06-10-2002, 07:55 PM
GLAD HE'S OUT TORREY!

Budwoman
06-13-2002, 01:39 PM
TORREY

BUTCH GOT PUT IN THE HOLE YESTERDAY... THEY SHIPPED HIM OUT OF LINCOLNTON TODAY AND MOVED HIM TO SALISBURY.... THE REASON WAS," HE WOULD NOT GIVE THEM INFORMATION ABOUT RENEE TRYING TO VISIT ON PRISON PROPERTY..." IN OTHERWORDS THEY TOLD HIM IF HE WOULD TELL THEM THAT SHE WAS TRYING TO VISIT THAT THEY WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING TO HIM... THEY THREATENED HIM WITH TAKING MY VISITATION PRIVILEDGES AWAY TOO....

IT HAPPENS TO US ALL.. THE MAJOR THING IS FOR US TO SURVIVE THE HARRASSMENT.... IT IS VERY VERY HARD TO SIT BACK AND LET THEM DO THIS..

MY LOVE AND PRAYERS TO YOU AND RICHARD.

DONNA

DJohnson
06-13-2002, 01:40 PM
Glad to hear that Richard is out of the hole Torrey!

sherri13
06-13-2002, 11:41 PM
donna-just wanted to ket you inow that is butch is in seg in salisbury-you should be able to call and arrange visits at your convenience thoughout the week-they will be through glass and he will be double cuffed but its a visit just the same- ron was at salisbury for a short time- as you probably know it is the processing center for a lot of inmates-

Budwoman
06-14-2002, 08:52 AM
THANKS SHERRI:

I JUST TRIED THAT.... THEY TOLD ME HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY VISITS UNTIL AUGUST 12TH... SO, THAT MEANS THE ONLY COMMUNICATION HE WILL HAVE IS LETTERS.

A CLASS B WRITE UP CARRIES A 60 DAY SEGREGATION... I AM SO VERY GLAD BUTCH IS A STRONG MAN, OTHERWISE THIS COULD PROBABLY BREAK HIM... I KNOW HE IS SITTING IN HIS DARK LITTLE HOLE NOW REFLECTING ON THIS INJUSTICE. BUT....IT WILL BE DEALT WITH AT A LATER TIME BY SOMEONE MUCH GREATER THAN THE D.O.C.

PART OF THIS HAS BEEN CAUSED BECAUSE HE AND RENEE DID NOT THINK ABOUT CONSEQUENCES.... AND, THEY BOTH SOMETIMES USE ABSOLUTELY NO TACK IN DEALING WITH PEOPLE, BUT NONE OF US ARE PERFECT..


GOD BLESS
DONNA

torrey
06-14-2002, 10:11 AM
Sorry to hear your news about Butch. It's hard for you I know since you are third person out on this situation. I found the most wonderful tool. It works but it is very hard for me to use it sometimes because I think I can fix it all. .... It is "LET GO......... LET GOD"

love muffin
06-14-2002, 03:03 PM
As terrible as the hole sounds, unless it is completely different from what I have seen segragation is actually a single cel with a bed, a toliet and a sink. There are many other one person cels around. It is not the hole that you see on TV where there is no light, and the guards throw your food to you in a corner.

Yes I'm sure it is a hard to be placed in there. It breaks my heart that Butch is in there. The last two days I have cried alot but Butch being the man that he is would have never caved in to their games.

This is just one of the reasons I love him so much. He has more character and morale values than anyone I have met before that is free much less in prison. He is a very strong man.

laura jo covey
10-18-2002, 10:05 PM
THE GUARDIAN ANGELS OF LIFE SOMETIMES FLY SO HIGH AS TO BE BEYOND OUR SIGHT, BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS LOOKING DOWN UPON US.