Hey guys. Im kinda upset at a comment my cousin just made. I was talkin to her and she asked me where KJ was and i said at home. And she was like well please dont get mad at me but i gotta tell you something and i was like what? Then she said "white girls are just brownie points..we are the ones that make the black guys look good and they run over us..i just dont wanna see you hurt. I mean i guess i dont have a question i just wanted to vent cause her comment got me upset so thanks for listening.

SweetiePie, don't let other peoples' opinions and sayings turn your :o into a :(. It's really not that serious. What's serious is that you and your man share something special so anything more than that ain't nuthin but that b.s. Don't let that b.s. get you down. Matter fact, give him a call right now, just to say "hey babe, I was thinkin about you and just wanted to say 'I love you, and see you soon:p '."

I think her comment is actually racist. Why does SHE think white woman make black men look good? They (black men) can't look good on their own???????

Many people have view about IR relationships. Do what is right for you and him. If you love him and he treats you right, who care about color? These are the kinds of comments we face in a IR relationship and unfortunately they are not going away anytime soon.

Ive heard this comment before. :mad: Its made by people who are ignorant and dont have a clue. :( Remember the love that you and your man share, because that is what brings you together... not this so-called stereo-typed status!

What a sad, small view of the world.

Hello there... Let me say something about this... I agree with the person that said it sounds like she is racist. We all bleed the same color blood, and we need to live our lives the way that we want. As you can see my husband is Black, but you know what I don't care what people say about us, because he is my life and I love him with all my heart, and if anyone has an issue with it then they are the one with the problem. We shall not judge anyone! :nono:
Thanks for listening....

Jennifer....not only was that a racist comment, but I think there just might be some jealousy there too. You are happy in your relationship and it's possible that your cousin is very jealous of that. My man is black and believe me he looks mighty fine without me!! He certainly doesn't need me to make him look good. We are not trophy's to put on a shelf....we are the other half of a whole. Don't let your cousin's remark get to you. You know how your relationship is and how much you love your man for who he is, not what color either of you happen to be. Click the iggy button on comments like that....be happy and love your man with all your heart and soul. "Narrow minded people need to keep their mouth shut."

Thanks everyone! I dont know why ppl have so much to say like its gonna change our hearts. I love KJ more than anything in this world and nobodys comment is gonna make my heart change.

From an "oldtimer" the less focus "we" put on the fact the we are in a inter-racial relationship the better. We know that our spouse, mate etc is of another race and that is what it is. No more, no less.
You will learn as time goes by to know when to ignore certain racist comments and which ones to address. The will last a lifetime as will the stares and behind the back comments by strangers. If you play into and respond to every ignorant comment then you are stooping to their level.
If you are in a good relationship--- enjoy it and remember no one asked your approval for their specific mate!

all i can say .. is ignore this person.. and i agree with the previous posts that it is a racist remark.. No race needs another to make them look better ..

i dont think white gurls makes black guys look any better than they already look...and that is like saying black girls don't....
well let me tell you something...i would tell her brownies are brown so she better find another word to call yall.....

i agree with E every race is beautiful....

I'm not sure if I should post here, because I'm not in an IR relationship, but I thought I would share my opinion. I've heard people say things like this and it really pisses me off. I think it's just ignorant people trying to make themselves feel better. I don't care weither your black, white, yellow, purple with green poka dots no woman makes any man look better. I guess this hits close to home for me because I was a "trophy wife" for years before I got up the nerve to leave my ex.

Why does SHE think white woman make black men look good? They (black men) can't look good on their own??????
I was about to ask the same thing. That was too funny to me. I hope that she wasn't serious because if so she's in for a world of hurt on her feelings. All I can say is continue to love your man as you do and keep him away from your cousin. She may want to make him look good herself.

its not the race that make him look good....its you and vice versa!!!! period!!!! the world is full of ignorant people.....and everyone has something to say....but if its negative...take it with a grain of salt and toss it over shoulder...but under no circumstances....never let any one steal your joy away from you!!!!

i totally agree with others about that being a racist comment...as if black men cannot look good on their own...or even as if black women cannot make black men look as good as a white woman can. since when are relationships about looks? and what is a brownie point? and what does looking good together have to do with brownie points? whose giving out these brownie points? what do you do when you get a brownie point? and for the life of me...can they be exchanged for cash??!!?

Tell her you and your man are not together because of how you make one another "look" but because of how you make one another "feel".

Patty

Pray for her. She needs it.

Pray for her. She needs it.


Amen.

My own mother has comments that she says like this all of the time...she'll say "you're just a trophy to him, he doesn't care about you." Of course she is wrong, you have to learn to let these comments go in one ear and out the other (easier said than done) and stand up for yourself and for your man!!

If you don't feel like a brownie point, don't let it bother you.
People still don't (and probably never will) understand and/or accept
IR couples.

totally racist comment. She should drag herself into the 21st century.

Hey guys. Im kinda upset at a comment my cousin just made. I was talkin to her and she asked me where KJ was and i said at home. And she was like well please dont get mad at me but i gotta tell you something and i was like what? Then she said "white girls are just brownie points..we are the ones that make the black guys look good and they run over us..i just dont wanna see you hurt. I mean i guess i dont have a question i just wanted to vent cause her comment got me upset so thanks for listening.
oh wow..this is crazy,i've heard this alot. How people think that black men talk to white woman to look good,i've never run across a circumstance when this was true. I'd tell her to back off,your relationship is your relationship an you know your man better than anyone else does.:thumbsup:

Yes that is totally racist comment. I would not allow her to tell you that. tell her no one told her she had to stay with only blk men go out and date other races.

From an "oldtimer" the less focus "we" put on the fact the we are in a inter-racial relationship the better. We know that our spouse, mate etc is of another race and that is what it is. No more, no less.
You will learn as time goes by to know when to ignore certain racist comments and which ones to address. The will last a lifetime as will the stares and behind the back comments by strangers. If you play into and respond to every ignorant comment then you are stooping to their level.
If you are in a good relationship--- enjoy it and remember no one asked your approval for their specific mate!

Another old-timer agrees with this 100%!

This is too deep to be a topic on PTO.

"BROWNIE POINTS" ?.... huh, my black female friends would disagree. If it's REAL love, it is what it is. When it's a good relationship, the couple makes themselves and each other look good... and THAT'S the only point! This isn't [or shouldn't be] about "oneupsmanship". We don't choose who we fall in love with. If it IS LOVE. Gemini Gem is probably right... too deep, too argumentative. Peace y'all.

Okay, I guess I'd like to put my 2 cents in (probably doesn't belong but here goes). My husband has told me that "some" black men where he is at (RCI in Maryland) have bragged about how many white chicks they have bagged. It is like a badge of honor among some black men.....but having said that there are just as many older men who brag about how many young virgins they can deflower, white and black. It truly isn't about the color, but some simple minded men and women who think that. There are also quite a few men in there who have multiple women (black and white) coming to visit them each week. My husband sort of makes a game of guessing which girl is coming to visit certain dudes whatever day of the week (their local, wife, girlfriend, etc.). They also make a joke that alot of these guys get "local" women while in there for when their own wives, girlfriends, etc... can't make the long trip from the city each week or send them money. He teases me that he will get a ugly Hagerstown chick to take care of him if I don't come visit. Not funny, but definitely a reality for some of these slimey jerks. Not saying this is true for your guy, but sometimes one bad seed makes the whole crop look dirty.

See the thing is about blk men using white girls as a game cause there are enough dumb ass broads out there espacially white girls willing to be fool when a blk woman would not do that. The white girls out there willign to take care of blkmen with the submissiveness they do make other white girls look like easy targets and can get over on them which alot the tiem is true i think its based on where your from and how you grew up. alot of white girls grew up in subbrubs and dont know how to really con people but i know where i am from you learn how to run game and play the game very early in life. I am very glad i was raised up 80% of my time in an all blk nieghborhood in what alot of people woudl call the projects cause it taught me alot of streets smarts that alot of white girls dont have. I look white but i am mostly rican and then whit and the blk then asain italian andnative american. White girls some of them just need to get a clue.

Wow I thought it was just the opposite:D My future (Black) son-in-law is on his way to being a Dr. He just finished State University where he played Football and ran track (only student in last 3 years to do multiple sports) he has a 4.0 grade average, hmm I can't say enough good things about him. Except if somebody referred to my daughter has his brownie point, I'd say praise God that she has brought this wonderful man into our lives.:thumbsup: You know what the truth is hon, don't let it get you down:cool:

Wow! *lol*.... Here's a little diddy that your cousin might want to know as well... Where I'm from a lot of Black men literally shrink when they pass by a group of black women with a white woman on his arm - like they feel shame sometimes... believe it. So she's totally clueless and ignorant. She needs to be schooled. (As you see, I'm a black woman)....

It really shouldn't matter what other people say... tell her to read a book or something.

See the thing is about blk men using white girls as a game cause there are enough dumb ass broads out there espacially white girls willing to be fool when a blk woman would not do that. The white girls out there willign to take care of blkmen with the submissiveness they do make other white girls look like easy targets and can get over on them which alot the tiem is true i think its based on where your from and how you grew up. alot of white girls grew up in subbrubs and dont know how to really con people but i know where i am from you learn how to run game and play the game very early in life. I am very glad i was raised up 80% of my time in an all blk nieghborhood in what alot of people woudl call the projects cause it taught me alot of streets smarts that alot of white girls dont have. I look white but i am mostly rican and then whit and the blk then asain italian andnative american. White girls some of them just need to get a clue.

excuse me!! you must have quite a few " white girls" confused!! last time i checked it wasnt bad to not be all that ghetto!! i cant really say that i would rather trade in my bachelor's degree for " so called street smarts". one pays a hell of a lot better then the other last time i checked! I dont think that intelligence knows ethnicity! you have just as many ignorant, uneducated women that are not WHITE.
I really resented this post and I am very surprised that you weren't checked on this immediately! Consider yourself checked!!
have a good day.
:thumbsup:

See the thing is about blk men using white girls as a game cause there are enough dumb ass broads out there espacially white girls willing to be fool when a blk woman would not do that. The white girls out there willign to take care of blkmen with the submissiveness they do make other white girls look like easy targets and can get over on them which alot the tiem is true i think its based on where your from and how you grew up. alot of white girls grew up in subbrubs and dont know how to really con people but i know where i am from you learn how to run game and play the game very early in life. I am very glad i was raised up 80% of my time in an all blk nieghborhood in what alot of people woudl call the projects cause it taught me alot of streets smarts that alot of white girls dont have. I look white but i am mostly rican and then whit and the blk then asain italian andnative american. White girls some of them just need to get a clue.

WOW.

To a player, it's all a game. Trying to score a point in one category or another. Different folks have different categories to score in.

If your man isn't a player, no worries and your cousin has obviously either been played and is bitter about it, or she's foolish enough to buy into stereotypes from other uneducated sources.

Jenn

See the thing is about blk men using white girls as a game cause there are enough dumb ass broads out there espacially white girls willing to be fool when a blk woman would not do that. The white girls out there willign to take care of blkmen with the submissiveness they do make other white girls look like easy targets and can get over on them which alot the tiem is true i think its based on where your from and how you grew up. alot of white girls grew up in subbrubs and dont know how to really con people but i know where i am from you learn how to run game and play the game very early in life. I am very glad i was raised up 80% of my time in an all blk nieghborhood in what alot of people woudl call the projects cause it taught me alot of streets smarts that alot of white girls dont have. I look white but i am mostly rican and then whit and the blk then asain italian andnative american. White girls some of them just need to get a clue.


*lol* The saying is true.... ignorance IS bliss....

(That post is totally bogus.... you're going to be a loser before you even begin to "play the game"..... so very very sad....)

See the thing is about blk men using white girls as a game cause there are enough dumb ass broads out there espacially white girls willing to be fool when a blk woman would not do that. The white girls out there willign to take care of blkmen with the submissiveness they do make other white girls look like easy targets and can get over on them which alot the tiem is true i think its based on where your from and how you grew up. alot of white girls grew up in subbrubs and dont know how to really con people but i know where i am from you learn how to run game and play the game very early in life. I am very glad i was raised up 80% of my time in an all blk nieghborhood in what alot of people woudl call the projects cause it taught me alot of streets smarts that alot of white girls dont have. I look white but i am mostly rican and then whit and the blk then asain italian andnative american. White girls some of them just need to get a clue.


Yes that is totally racist comment. I would not allow her to tell you that. tell her no one told her she had to stay with only blk men go out and date other races.


THE 2 POSTS ABOVE WERE MADE BY YOU... NOW WHICH PART OF YOUR POSTS ISNT RACIST??????? I AM SITTING HERE GETTING MADDER AND MADDER BY THE MOMENT OVER THIS POST! ONE LAST PARTING THOUGHT, SPELL CHECK FEATURES ARE WORTH A MILLION!!!:thumbsup: :cool:

One word - CHILL

This thread was (a) started almost a year ago and (b) is getting a bit out of hand and "nit-picky".

Bottom line is that this is a hot topic that no one is ever going to agree on. Yes, there are some people, whether black, white, brown, green or purple that are going to take advantage of other people, who may be black, white, brown, green or purple. It's the PERSON, not the COLOR.

Please don't start attacking other members or the thread will be closed.

sweetme..I find your post extremely offensive and am requesting that it be removed ASAP.

This certainly became an explosive thread... and I believe it was originally started in a much more lighthearted frame of mind :confused: . We are all here on this site to support each other in the first place, whether we agree or not. I don't come here to be :angry: at anybody...I want to talk to others like me who love someone incarcerated. As for my own personal IR love... my man was attracted to me by watching me out in public for weeks before ever approaching me... why?... because I wasn't a "wannabe" chick trying to "act" like a person I am not. I'm not "ghetto" and I still have love for everyone who "is" . Whatever that means. Chill out sweetme, please. PEACE!!!:heart:

My man and I have discussed this, I brought the subject up while he was still inside several months ago. He is Black and I am Latina. Anyway, he told me that sadly in his experience in the prison system that yeah a lot of black men think it is a symbol of status to have a woman of any other race. That doesn't make that mentality right it simply is how SOME people feel. :shrug:

Live and let live we say,
Patty

This thread should be removed all together!! And another thing, why does it have to be pointed out if you are dating a "blackman" No one know's the color of my handsome, but everyone knows he is in jail. This is a very nasty topic and it shouldn't be discussed here. Stop posting because someone is gonna say something that they will really regret. I can't even express how I feel about this, I can't believe it was brought to PTO, this could have been solved at home. So with that being said, monitors gets to cutting. And ladies keep some things to yourselves! I see some people love drama!

Gentle reminder: Everyone is entitled to post their opinions or experiences respectfully. Let's please keep this thread on topic from here on out, all off topic posts will be removed from this point forward.

Thank you,
Patty

ROFLMAO, toooo funny, HE is my Brownie.... I am his refined Sugar.... we are both TOOOOOOO sweet on each other and f. the rest :-)

I personally don't think it has much to do with color at all. Some guys are just plain scum....just like i said...with some men its also a status symbol to get some young trophy woman on their arm... white or black. What do they get for that "pampers points" - (remember them). LMAO

Gen

I agree with a lot that was said. I think nasty people period (white/ black - young/old) seek people to take advantage of. If you fall into it... well sorry for you, but it has NOTHING to do with WHERE people were raised.. I was raised in a "monetarily challenged" area too... does that mean I know the "game" the "code of the streets"... and can get over on anyone that I choose because I'm black and "just know how it is"..... Life is more important than knowing games. Shoot, play THAT game... the game of life.....

Most people can see through the BS that people are trying to feed. People have to choose wisely and take time to get to know a person. For one be who you ARE and not who you think someone wants you to be.... If a person loves you, they'll love the person you ARE.... Lastly, NO ONE else really even matters (except the children ofcourse... but he will embrace them as if they are his own of he cares... believe it..... :D)

As for the "brownie point" thing.... Know that those people who believe in that ideology - frankly, they're lacking some serious self-esteem. Some deep seeded issues that need to be dealt with.

wow,it's all about ignorance period!! guess some people don't have enough going on in their lives that they feel the need to try to get involued with others!getting "hurt" is a part of life regardless of who you are with! It's what helps us to grow inside,I also am old school when it comes to bi racial relationships,if you worry about what other people say or think no matter what the subject is,you will probaly never be happy, misery loves company! and for sweet,i totally disagree with you when you made that comment that blk woman wouldn't do that!I know too many blk woman that have gotten hurt by their men white and blk,by having game ran on them,it's not the race it's the person!!!

I don't know about yall, but I think my man is so fine sometimes me makes me look good! lol

I was surfing the net and I came upon this from website address removed I know this tread was closed for a reason but... I think this post is an eye opener for EVERYONE!

ANGRY WHITE GIRL, PROUD BLACK MAN(BACK TO MAIN PAGE)


Read on............So great to find this Black Prince
defending us like this...
It seems that an article was written to Sister 2 Sister
magazine by a Caucasian woman who requested a response from black men. I'm
so glad she got what she asked for (and more)!!!

Dear Jamie:
I'm sorry but I would like to challenge some of your Black male readers. I
am a White female who is engaged to a Black male-good-looking,
educated and loving. I just don't understand a lot of Black female's attitudes
about our relationship. My man decided he wanted me because the pickings
amongst Black women were slim to none. As he said they were either too fat,
too loud, too mean, too argumentative, too needy, too materialistic or
carrying too much excess baggage.

Before I became engaged, whenever I went out I was constantly approached by Black men, willing to wine and dine me and give me the world. If Black women are so up in arms about us being with their men, why don't they look at themselves and make some changes. I am tired of the dirty looks I get and snide remarks when we're out in public. I would like to hear from some Black men about why we are so appealing and coveted by
them. Bryant Gumbel just left his wife of 26 years for one of us. Charles
Barkley, Scottie Pippen, the model Tyson Beckford, Montell Williams, Quincy
Jones, James Earl Jones, Harry Belafonte, Sydney Poitier, Kofi Anan, Cuba
Gooding Jr., Don Cornelius, Berry Gordy, Billy Blanks, Larry Fishburne,
Wesley Snipes...I could go on and on. But, right now, I'm a little angry and
that is why I wrote this so hurriedly. Don't be mad with us White women
because so many of your men want us. Get your acts together and learn from
us and we may lead you to treat your men better. If I'm wrong, Black men,
let me know.

Disgusted White Girl, Somewhere in VA.

RESPONSE:

Dear Jamie:
I would like to respond to the letter written by A Disgusted White Girl.

Let me start by saying that I am a 28-year old black man. I graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in Atlanta, Georgia with a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Business Management. I have a good job at a major corporation and have recently purchased a house. So, I consider myself to be among the ranks of successful black men.
I will not use my precious time to slander white people. I just want
to set the record straight of why black men date white women. Back
in the day, one of the biggest reasons why black men dated white women was because
they were considered easy.

The black girls in my neighborhood were raised in the church. They were very strict about when they lost their virginity and whom they lost it to. Because of our impatience to wait, brothers would look for someone who would give it up easy without too much hassle. So,
they turned to the white girls.

Nowadays, in my opinion, a lot of brothers date white women because they are docile and easy to control. A lot of black men, because of insecurities, fears, and overall weaknesses, have become intimidated by the strength of our black women. We are afraid that our woman will be more successful than us, make more money than us, and drive nicer cars and own bigger houses. Because of this fear, many black men look for
a more docile woman. Someone we can control. I have talked to numerous black men
and they continuously comment on how easy it is to control and walk over their white
women.

I just want to set the record straight. I want A Disgusted White Girl to know that not all successful black men date white women.
Brothers like Ahmad Rashad, Denzel Washington, Michael Jordan, Bill Cosby,
Morris Chestnut, Will Smith, Blair Underwood, Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds,
Samuel L. Jackson, and Chris Rock all married strong black women. And, to flip the scrip, th ere are numerous white men, in and out of the spot light, who
openly or secretly desire black women over white women. Ted Danson, Robert
DeNiro, and David Bowie to name a few.
I just don't want a disgusted white girl to be misinformed. Stop
thinking that because you are white that you are some type of
goddess. Remember, when black Egyptian Queens like Hatsepshut and
Nitorcris were ruling Dynasties and armies of men in Egypt, you were over in
the caves of Europe eating raw meat and beating each other over the head
with clubs. Read your history!
It was the black woman that taught you how to cook and season your food. It was the black woman that taught you how to praise your children. It was black women who were breast-feeding and raising your babies during slavery. It is the black woman that had to endure watching their fathers, husbands, and children beaten, killed, and thrown in
jail. Black women were born with two strikes against them: being black and being a woman. And, through all this, Still They Rise!
It is because of the black women's strength; elegance, power, love and beauty that I could never date anyone except my black Queen.
It is not just the outer beauty that captivates and draws me to them.
It is not the fact that they come in all shapes, sizes, and colors and shades
that I love them. Their inner beauty is what I find most appealing about black
women.
Their strong spirit, loving and nurturing souls, their integrity,
their ability to overcome great obstacles, their willingness to stand
for what they believe in, and their determination to succeed and reach
their highest potential while enduring great pain and suffering is why I
have fallen in love with black women. I honestly believe that your anger is
geared more toward jealousy and envy than snotty looks If this were not
so, then why do you continuously go to tanning salons to darken your skin? If
you are so proud to be white, then why don't you just be happy with your
pale skin? Why do you continue to inject your lips, hips, and breasts with
unnatural and dangerous substances so you can look fuller and more
voluptuous?

I think that your anger is really a result of you wanting to have what the black woman has.
BOTTOM LINE: If I were looking for a docile woman, someone I can walk over and control, I would give you a call. But, unfortunately, I am looking for a Virtuous Woman. Someone that can be a good wife and mother to my children.
Someone who can be my best friend and understands my struggles.
I am looking for a soul mate. I am looking for a sister and; unfortunately, you
do not and CANNOT fit the bill. No offense taken, none given.

Signed,

Black Royalty


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Yeah well i understand both of the peoples opinions because i am mixed and because i am so light to some i am still a white girl but i was raised in all blk hood and i am mixed with blk like my grand ma said no matter if i have the skin color it flows through my blood and i am still a blk queen. SO i get the look from blk women but the way i say is Martin ltuher king jr wanted us to become one and for us to set aside our diffrences so it should be great that we are intermixing our races so one day there is no such thing as one race everyone will be mixed. my husband is 24 i am 22 i have known him since i was 2 and been with im since i was 11 we had our days where people had the looks and stares and like he tell them i am am his queen and he is my king

I was surfing the net and I came upon this from I know this tread was closed for a reason but... I think this post is an eye opener for EVERYONE!

ANGRY WHITE GIRL, PROUD BLACK MAN(BACK TO MAIN PAGE)


Read on............So great to find this Black Prince
defending us like this...
It seems that an article was written to Sister 2 Sister
magazine by a Caucasian woman who requested a response from black men. I'm
so glad she got what she asked for (and more)!!!

Dear Jamie:
I'm sorry but I would like to challenge some of your Black male readers. I
am a White female who is engaged to a Black male-good-looking,
educated and loving. I just don't understand a lot of Black female's attitudes
about our relationship. My man decided he wanted me because the pickings
amongst Black women were slim to none. As he said they were either too fat,
too loud, too mean, too argumentative, too needy, too materialistic or
carrying too much excess baggage.

Before I became engaged, whenever I went out I was constantly approached by Black men, willing to wine and dine me and give me the world. If Black women are so up in arms about us being with their men, why don't they look at themselves and make some changes. I am tired of the dirty looks I get and snide remarks when we're out in public. I would like to hear from some Black men about why we are so appealing and coveted by
them. Bryant Gumbel just left his wife of 26 years for one of us. Charles
Barkley, Scottie Pippen, the model Tyson Beckford, Montell Williams, Quincy
Jones, James Earl Jones, Harry Belafonte, Sydney Poitier, Kofi Anan, Cuba
Gooding Jr., Don Cornelius, Berry Gordy, Billy Blanks, Larry Fishburne,
Wesley Snipes...I could go on and on. But, right now, I'm a little angry and
that is why I wrote this so hurriedly. Don't be mad with us White women
because so many of your men want us. Get your acts together and learn from
us and we may lead you to treat your men better. If I'm wrong, Black men,
let me know.

Disgusted White Girl, Somewhere in VA.

RESPONSE:

Dear Jamie:
I would like to respond to the letter written by A Disgusted White Girl.

Let me start by saying that I am a 28-year old black man. I graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in Atlanta, Georgia with a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Business Management. I have a good job at a major corporation and have recently purchased a house. So, I consider myself to be among the ranks of successful black men.
I will not use my precious time to slander white people. I just want
to set the record straight of why black men date white women. Back
in the day, one of the biggest reasons why black men dated white women was because
they were considered easy.

The black girls in my neighborhood were raised in the church. They were very strict about when they lost their virginity and whom they lost it to. Because of our impatience to wait, brothers would look for someone who would give it up easy without too much hassle. So,
they turned to the white girls.

Nowadays, in my opinion, a lot of brothers date white women because they are docile and easy to control. A lot of black men, because of insecurities, fears, and overall weaknesses, have become intimidated by the strength of our black women. We are afraid that our woman will be more successful than us, make more money than us, and drive nicer cars and own bigger houses. Because of this fear, many black men look for
a more docile woman. Someone we can control. I have talked to numerous black men
and they continuously comment on how easy it is to control and walk over their white
women.

I just want to set the record straight. I want A Disgusted White Girl to know that not all successful black men date white women.
Brothers like Ahmad Rashad, Denzel Washington, Michael Jordan, Bill Cosby,
Morris Chestnut, Will Smith, Blair Underwood, Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds,
Samuel L. Jackson, and Chris Rock all married strong black women. And, to flip the scrip, th ere are numerous white men, in and out of the spot light, who
openly or secretly desire black women over white women. Ted Danson, Robert
DeNiro, and David Bowie to name a few.
I just don't want a disgusted white girl to be misinformed. Stop
thinking that because you are white that you are some type of
goddess. Remember, when black Egyptian Queens like Hatsepshut and
Nitorcris were ruling Dynasties and armies of men in Egypt, you were over in
the caves of Europe eating raw meat and beating each other over the head
with clubs. Read your history!
It was the black woman that taught you how to cook and season your food. It was the black woman that taught you how to praise your children. It was black women who were breast-feeding and raising your babies during slavery. It is the black woman that had to endure watching their fathers, husbands, and children beaten, killed, and thrown in
jail. Black women were born with two strikes against them: being black and being a woman. And, through all this, Still They Rise!
It is because of the black women's strength; elegance, power, love and beauty that I could never date anyone except my black Queen.
It is not just the outer beauty that captivates and draws me to them.
It is not the fact that they come in all shapes, sizes, and colors and shades
that I love them. Their inner beauty is what I find most appealing about black
women.
Their strong spirit, loving and nurturing souls, their integrity,
their ability to overcome great obstacles, their willingness to stand
for what they believe in, and their determination to succeed and reach
their highest potential while enduring great pain and suffering is why I
have fallen in love with black women. I honestly believe that your anger is
geared more toward jealousy and envy than snotty looks If this were not
so, then why do you continuously go to tanning salons to darken your skin? If
you are so proud to be white, then why don't you just be happy with your
pale skin? Why do you continue to inject your lips, hips, and breasts with
unnatural and dangerous substances so you can look fuller and more
voluptuous?

I think that your anger is really a result of you wanting to have what the black woman has.
BOTTOM LINE: If I were looking for a docile woman, someone I can walk over and control, I would give you a call. But, unfortunately, I am looking for a Virtuous Woman. Someone that can be a good wife and mother to my children.
Someone who can be my best friend and understands my struggles.
I am looking for a soul mate. I am looking for a sister and; unfortunately, you
do not and CANNOT fit the bill. No offense taken, none given.

Signed,

Black Royalty


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I dont even understand why this thread was reopened. Every single person dates who they want for their own specific reasons. All this does is cause controversy.

Well, in all honesty, I have to say that as a white woman in a relationship with my love, my soulmate, and my black king...I feel that there is much to learn from history, from what has been denied and hidden from general public knowledge, and that I personally appreciated Gemini Gem's thoughtful , insightful and educated post. That said...there is no guarantee that in our era, we have reason to hesitate or fear loving someone of a different race without ulterior or subconscious motives. The historical truth behind the desires of one race to be lovers with another will be just that...true history. We are in 2007 America and I know that the love I share with my fiancee, and he with me, has nothing to do with "brownie points" for either of us. However, I am certainly not "easy" by any stretch of the imagination. Yet there is no arguing the truth behind Gemini's knowledged opinion. With all due respect. To each his, or her, own in this day and age. At least it should be. Just MHO. ;)

I like your response Goldenglove!
Well, in all honesty, I have to say that as a white woman in a relationship with my love, my soulmate, and my black king...I feel that there is much to learn from history, from what has been denied and hidden from general public knowledge, and that I personally appreciated Gemini Gem's thoughtful , insightful and educated post. That said...there is no guarantee that in our era, we have reason to hesitate or fear loving someone of a different race without ulterior or subconscious motives. The historical truth behind the desires of one race to be lovers with another will be just that...true history. We are in 2007 America and I know that the love I share with my fiancee, and he with me, has nothing to do with "brownie points" for either of us. However, I am certainly not "easy" by any stretch of the imagination. Yet there is no arguing the truth behind Gemini's knowledged opinion. With all due respect. To each his, or her, own in this day and age. At least it should be. Just MHO. ;)

I can't believe people are still posting that stupid article from Sister 2 Sister, that's only been circulating around the net since like 2001:rolleyes:

And still getting all fired up about it...good grief:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: It's probably not even real!!

I don't know about yall, but I think my man is so fine sometimes me makes me look good! lol


I know this post is old but I love that!!! LOL I feel the same way about my man, he is soooooo fine, I'm like, OMG I can't even take my eyes off of him:no: :dance: :bow: :beer: :clap: :slap: :help: :blush: :faint: :heart: :love: :drool: :drool: :drool:

:twocents:heres my 2 cents worth! My Husband worships me and I him. I have a masters in Sociology with a minor in Ethnic minorities. I have been married twice before to white men who treated me like crap. Not because they were white but because they were jerks who were raised by women that didn't teach their sons how to honor women. It would seem that in Black culture, the women raise their sons to honor their Mothers, Grandmothers, Sisters, Cousins and Wives. Black women are STRONG, they have had to be to survive in this racist world. A Black man is not so afraid of a strong woman... his mother was one! Well, I am a strong woman as well and need a strong man beside me... not some coddled little whimp who accuses me of immasculating him because I handle my business while he drinks beer and belches in my face. I understand the attitude generally portrayed by Black women towards me, doesn't mean I like it but I can be tolerant. I fell in love with my Husband... not his skin color!

Let me correct one of my previous statements... Not all Blkmen are raised by blk women, some have mothers from other races (since in this country "one drop"). I am also meaning to speak in broad terms (general) about cultural differences. BTW... are brownie points worth cash???? I sure could use some...LOL!

I was surfing the net and I came upon this from website address removed I know this tread was closed for a reason but... I think this post is an eye opener for EVERYONE!

ANGRY WHITE GIRL, PROUD BLACK MAN(BACK TO MAIN PAGE)


Read on............So great to find this Black Prince
defending us like this...
It seems that an article was written to Sister 2 Sister
magazine by a Caucasian woman who requested a response from black men. I'm
so glad she got what she asked for (and more)!!!

Dear Jamie:
I'm sorry but I would like to challenge some of your Black male readers. I
am a White female who is engaged to a Black male-good-looking,
educated and loving. I just don't understand a lot of Black female's attitudes
about our relationship. My man decided he wanted me because the pickings
amongst Black women were slim to none. As he said they were either too fat,
too loud, too mean, too argumentative, too needy, too materialistic or
carrying too much excess baggage.

Before I became engaged, whenever I went out I was constantly approached by Black men, willing to wine and dine me and give me the world. If Black women are so up in arms about us being with their men, why don't they look at themselves and make some changes. I am tired of the dirty looks I get and snide remarks when we're out in public. I would like to hear from some Black men about why we are so appealing and coveted by
them. Bryant Gumbel just left his wife of 26 years for one of us. Charles
Barkley, Scottie Pippen, the model Tyson Beckford, Montell Williams, Quincy
Jones, James Earl Jones, Harry Belafonte, Sydney Poitier, Kofi Anan, Cuba
Gooding Jr., Don Cornelius, Berry Gordy, Billy Blanks, Larry Fishburne,
Wesley Snipes...I could go on and on. But, right now, I'm a little angry and
that is why I wrote this so hurriedly. Don't be mad with us White women
because so many of your men want us. Get your acts together and learn from
us and we may lead you to treat your men better. If I'm wrong, Black men,
let me know.

Disgusted White Girl, Somewhere in VA.

RESPONSE:

Dear Jamie:
I would like to respond to the letter written by A Disgusted White Girl.

Let me start by saying that I am a 28-year old black man. I graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in Atlanta, Georgia with a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Business Management. I have a good job at a major corporation and have recently purchased a house. So, I consider myself to be among the ranks of successful black men.
I will not use my precious time to slander white people. I just want
to set the record straight of why black men date white women. Back
in the day, one of the biggest reasons why black men dated white women was because
they were considered easy.

The black girls in my neighborhood were raised in the church. They were very strict about when they lost their virginity and whom they lost it to. Because of our impatience to wait, brothers would look for someone who would give it up easy without too much hassle. So,
they turned to the white girls.

Nowadays, in my opinion, a lot of brothers date white women because they are docile and easy to control. A lot of black men, because of insecurities, fears, and overall weaknesses, have become intimidated by the strength of our black women. We are afraid that our woman will be more successful than us, make more money than us, and drive nicer cars and own bigger houses. Because of this fear, many black men look for
a more docile woman. Someone we can control. I have talked to numerous black men
and they continuously comment on how easy it is to control and walk over their white
women.

I just want to set the record straight. I want A Disgusted White Girl to know that not all successful black men date white women.
Brothers like Ahmad Rashad, Denzel Washington, Michael Jordan, Bill Cosby,
Morris Chestnut, Will Smith, Blair Underwood, Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds,
Samuel L. Jackson, and Chris Rock all married strong black women. And, to flip the scrip, th ere are numerous white men, in and out of the spot light, who
openly or secretly desire black women over white women. Ted Danson, Robert
DeNiro, and David Bowie to name a few.
I just don't want a disgusted white girl to be misinformed. Stop
thinking that because you are white that you are some type of
goddess. Remember, when black Egyptian Queens like Hatsepshut and
Nitorcris were ruling Dynasties and armies of men in Egypt, you were over in
the caves of Europe eating raw meat and beating each other over the head
with clubs. Read your history!
It was the black woman that taught you how to cook and season your food. It was the black woman that taught you how to praise your children. It was black women who were breast-feeding and raising your babies during slavery. It is the black woman that had to endure watching their fathers, husbands, and children beaten, killed, and thrown in
jail. Black women were born with two strikes against them: being black and being a woman. And, through all this, Still They Rise!
It is because of the black women's strength; elegance, power, love and beauty that I could never date anyone except my black Queen.
It is not just the outer beauty that captivates and draws me to them.
It is not the fact that they come in all shapes, sizes, and colors and shades
that I love them. Their inner beauty is what I find most appealing about black
women.
Their strong spirit, loving and nurturing souls, their integrity,
their ability to overcome great obstacles, their willingness to stand
for what they believe in, and their determination to succeed and reach
their highest potential while enduring great pain and suffering is why I
have fallen in love with black women. I honestly believe that your anger is
geared more toward jealousy and envy than snotty looks If this were not
so, then why do you continuously go to tanning salons to darken your skin? If
you are so proud to be white, then why don't you just be happy with your
pale skin? Why do you continue to inject your lips, hips, and breasts with
unnatural and dangerous substances so you can look fuller and more
voluptuous?

I think that your anger is really a result of you wanting to have what the black woman has.
BOTTOM LINE: If I were looking for a docile woman, someone I can walk over and control, I would give you a call. But, unfortunately, I am looking for a Virtuous Woman. Someone that can be a good wife and mother to my children.
Someone who can be my best friend and understands my struggles.
I am looking for a soul mate. I am looking for a sister and; unfortunately, you
do not and CANNOT fit the bill. No offense taken, none given.

Signed,

Black Royalty


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Let me tell you this sweetie!! I am so glad that you posted this.My mother and father raised me to be a strong black woman..and my man sees that.And although he is incarcerated..he is still succeeding and taking care of business.This post lifted me even higher and lets me further know HOw much I LOVE my Ebony Prince!!! Kudos girl..and that's real

I'm offended by that comment and I am a "white girl." My man is black, and I am damn sure no brownie points. I am THE woman he loves. And again, I really am wondering how people can still be racist??? We're in 2007 now. This closed-mind stuff has got to go.
Sorry, I had to vent for a minute. I'm really sick of the racism, of putting people down. I've had to deal with it for a long time (my last 3 boyfriends are black). And the s--- gets old.

I'm offended by that comment and I am a "white girl." My man is black, and I am damn sure no brownie points. I am THE woman he loves. And again, I really am wondering how people can still be racist??? We're in 2007 now. This closed-mind stuff has got to go.
Sorry, I had to vent for a minute. I'm really sick of the racism, of putting people down. I've had to deal with it for a long time (my last 3 boyfriends are black). And the s--- gets old.

Yeah it's a shame that people are still closed minded when it comes to interracial relationships..but even more..it hurts to see how some black men percieve us strong black women.They mistaken our strength for attitude..because most of us won't put up with their BS. They mistaken our wanting a better life than what our parents had as high maintenance and that of a gold digger. But I put it like this...those who don't approve of interracial couples need to get a life..and those "Brothers" who down talk their black women...need to get a life also..and that's real talk

That was such a stupid comment. Girl you and your man shine just because of the love you have for each other. You don;t make him look good and he don;t make you look good. The key is that you two look good together!! She just hatin, you better watch her, misery loves company honey. Keep loving your man, love knows no color

I have heard the same thing from many of the people who know that I am in a realtionship with a black male that is in prison. I have even heard that the only reason he is with me is to make him look good at his trial. You just can't believe what people like that say. you have to stay strong and know that your man loves you for you not the color of your skin.

I think it is crap but I have been told by a black man, not mine! That black men get white women cause they know how to take better care of their man than a black woman does. I asked what was such a big deal about a white girl cause he went on and on about getting him a good ole white girl.

Yeah it's a shame that people are still closed minded when it comes to interracial relationships..but even more..it hurts to see how some black men percieve us strong black women.They mistaken our strength for attitude..because most of us won't put up with their BS. They mistaken our wanting a better life than what our parents had as high maintenance and that of a gold digger. But I put it like this...those who don't approve of interracial couples need to get a life..and those "Brothers" who down talk their black women...need to get a life also..and that's real talk

My Ebony King didn't choose a white woman OVER a black woman, he chose me because of what I am about. I found that letter and response rude. I wouldn't want my beautiful bi-racial little girl reading such closed minded, judgmental garbage.

How many threads do we need about this? My concern about my IR relationship is on my list of priorities right under "cleaning out the fridge drip pan".

Ignore your cousin's comment and other negative comments you will hear like it in the future. Black men don't need white women to make them look good and vice versa and that goes for any race/sex.
My man looks good standing alone and so do I. But we do compliment each other because we love each other. We are not 2 single people but 1 love, hence the name 2became1. Don't let anyone tear you and him apart because then you have given them a victory.

I think it is crap but I have been told by a black man, not mine! That black men get white women cause they know how to take better care of their man than a black woman does. I asked what was such a big deal about a white girl cause he went on and on about getting him a good ole white girl.

It is just as untrue that "white women treat their men better" as the saying that "white women allow black men to do whatever it is they want."
It sounds like that black man won't just come out and say that he finds white women attractive and there is nothing wrong with that. I find black men attractive but it isn't because they take care of me better than a white man would, it's because my favorite flavor is Chocolate.:D