Hi all!

Im new to PTO.....I hope Im using the right thread.....Bare with me to getting use to this...

My husband of 2 years got sentenced this morning so you all can imagine how I'm feeling :( He got sentenced to 46 months. I got a few questions after beginning sentenced:

1. When do I know where he will be transferred to?

2. He's in county jail waiting to go to Federal and its memorial day weekend. Does anyone have any idea how long it will take.

3. He got approved for boot camp and 500 drug program.
How much time will this reduced his time too?

Thanks!

Hello Butterfly and welcome to PTO. Don't worry too much about what thread you are using. The moderators here are wonderful, if they think that your post should be somewhere else, they will move it for you.
First, I want to wish you luck and strenght to hang in there.
Even though I leave for Carswell Federal for women I still don't have very many answers for you. However, there are some very knowledgeable people here who have either been in the Federal system or have a loved one in and I am sure that they will more than happy to help you.
You will be surprised by how many welcomes you get. This is a wonderful, caring and supportive group.
Did the attorney request a special place for him at sentencing? The judge can make a recommandation, but it is up to BOP. My attorney requested Carswell because it is the closest to Oklahoma City, the judge put in a recommandation for it and now that is where I am going. There is an excellent post in here from Kenny about writing. You should read it. It will help you understand how important it is for your husband to receive mail and not feel cut off from his loved ones. I am sure that one of the members here who know how to use this system far better than I do can send you a link to that post.
From what I have read, if I am understanding it right, the drug program can take off a year from the sentence. Please everyone, correct me if I am wrong on this! :-)
My best advice? Keep a sense of humor. You have to find something to laugh at on your darkest days or you can just become completely overwhelmed.
God bless you and remember to take care of yourself during this!

Toni

Toni:

Thanks for your advise....

Yes toni the attorney did request a place but the judge said he would put the request in but its not for sure...We are both confused now to where he will go....Hes stressing to where he is going and when....I told him not to stress and just go with it and will know in time (I hope I said the right thing).

Yeah I heard the same about the drug program taking off a year so that bring him down to 36 months but how about the boot camp?


Toni I wish you strength through your journey....
Keep your head up and set goals for yourself.......
Wishing you the best!
God bless you!!!!

My Man started out serving a state sentence.
Once the federal marshels had him in custody, it was about a 5 to 6 week wait until they actually transferred him into a federal facility. But I have also realized in the past 6 years...you can never figure out what or how the BOP will do things! One situation usually will not turn out the same as a simular one!
It will all work out, just remember that! They will not keep him forever! Once he gets to a destination...things should ease up a tad bit! Hang in there!

Diane

I'm hearing the same thing its all up to BOP....

Thanks Diane...

I had a bad day today... I got denied to see him (was my second visit) due to he had a visit in the morning...I find out that you can only go once a day and with 3 people....You all can imagine how I felt MAD!!!!!

Its horrible not knowing how the system works we have to figure it out ourselves and asking questions.....Meaning the rules...

Hi Butterfly

First welcome to PTO :) I guess I'm one of those wonderful moderators Toni was speaking of, but I won't move your thread, it's just the perfect place in this forum :)

Unfortunately, I know nothing about the federal system, my friend being in state, but I can give you their website link, in case you didn't have it. Hopefully, you will get some answers to your questions here.

www.bop.gov

I would also suggest you to make a general introduction of yourself and your husband in the introduction forum, so that everybody could welcome you, and you might hopefully get some answers here as well.

Anyway, know we're here for you and your husband as well.

All my best wishes
Philippe

Welcome to PTO!

Hi Welcome. It is really up to the bop. I know a guy who was in a federal facility with in 10 days of his sentencing. I don't think they will tell you when they are going to move him. He won't know either. Sorry I can't help more. I don't know about the boot camp either. I have other friends who have not been sentenced yet. Good Luck.

All, Thanks for all the welcomes......

Thanks Phil, I been living on www.bop.gov for tha past year :) great info......Phil where would I put my Intro?

We have to hang in there to find out when and where he is getting transferred to....It's destroying me inside....

I finally had something to eat today ;)

Im just looking forward to Thursday to seeing him...I miss him so much!!!

You value the little things in life not having your love one around....

:) WELCOME TO PTO! :) BE STRONG! I KNOW IT HURTS LIKE HELL! :(

Welcome to PTO! Hang in there and remember it will get a little easier each day.....Once he's moved and you guys figure out the routine it'll be less stressful...

Deb

Welcome to PTO. Although I have not been here long I can tell you that you will find all the love and support here that you need. You should also be able to find out alot of useful information when needed. I am sorry for what you are going through. I know it hurts. You just have to hang in there and eventually it gets a little easier (or at least routine). You and your husband are in my thoughts and prayers.

3. He got approved for boot camp and 500 drug program.
How much time will this reduced his time too?

As far as I know, the RDAP and the ICC result in a reduction of one year. I don't know how they handle that if you take them both however. It would be great if they shave off 2 years, but you should ask your attourney about that to be sure. Good luck.

B

B that would be god sent if they can reduce 2 years :dance: ....that means he will have to do 22 months....

I PRAY TO GOD FOR THAT!!!!

Its so hard without him....

I did get great news from him last night.....He wants another tatoo.....so he decided these few days he want to get my name.... finally ;)....that put a huge :) on my face....He also told me he's proud of me how Im handling this....

Im just still waiting for Thursday!! :D

You can never second guess the BOP; they do what they want, when they want and take as long as they want!!

After sentencing, my husband got a letter in the mail telling him where he was to "report". (he self-surrendered) He got 37 months; with good time he should be out sometime this winter.

I wish you the best; it is difficult to adjust to living without him for a time, but we do what we have to do. Funny, I got a letter today from my husband - he told me he was proud of me too!! I miss him TERRIBLY - but our time will come.

Hang in there......

Countess

The joys of the bop *sigh*. The BOP can place a person within a 500 mile radius of their "home" Drug program does take off a year but there is an "aftercare" part of it that most do not realize. Harvey also got a letter as to where he was to report. (self surrender) It was the worst day of my life to leave him at that place. Keep checking the bop inmate locater and eventually it will be posted where he is going. Best of luck to you both.

I had thought we would have to self surrender but after sentencing they took him in and thats why he is in county jail....

I think I would feel better if we surrender than going through a guessing game to where and when......

Either way it is still your worst day of your life no matter what outlook u look at it....

Egreenfield yes there is a aftercare part when he gets out for his 500 DP he will have to do a in/out patient care for a few years.....

Doesn't this still count towards his time? Even though hes not in federal yet....Does anyone know?

Any time that you are incarcerated it should count towards your sentence. Every day counts.


B

:Sad: Okay guys! Today was my visit to see him and guess what.... all that wait of 2 hours.... they declined me.... while I was sitting in my booth waiting exciting to see him....they announced out loud that he wasnt there I was shocked..... why couldnt they tell me downstairs when i checked in....The marshalls took him....I have no clue where he is and where he is going....I keep checking in the bop.gov immate locator and nothing....

Does anyone know when he will be in the system or when I will hear from him?

I wish I could help, but there is no telling. It might be soon, but it might not. I would think he should be able to get a letter off. I have heard of them being "in transit" for up to two weeks, but sometimes it is only a couple of days. The bright side is that he should be able to get settled once he gets where he is going. Keep checking the bop locator. And let us know how it is going. I am going to be where you are soon enough, and would like to get an idea how long it takes for you. Stay Strong

Fabulous, I finally got in touch with him....The last i spoke to him was on wednesday night.....went thursday for visting and he wasnt there....I went nuts not hearing from him all day....I did tons of phone calls everywhere and all I got was he is not there meaning county jail and maybe he went to court which I knew it couldnt be that cause he got sentenced or they told me hes in transit....I also kept checking the BOP all day thursday...Couldn't sleep that night I was all worried...finally my phone rang 7:50 am friday and it was him saying he's okay and hes in Miami for now and that was it....when he gets a chance he will call me...I then checked the BOP and there was his info(friday morning)...

No letters from him cause he has no paper to write on or stamps to buy cause he has no money....I sent him a money order while he was in county but got returned cause he got transferred to federal so now i have to remail the money order to miami.....I heard though when he gets transferred AGAIN to where hes going to be the money will be in his account cause he's registered as federal now... which is great.....

THE GUESSING GAME REALLY SUCKS! I AM GLAD THAT HE FINALLY GOT IN TOUCH WITH YOU! :)

I'm so glad you heard from him! Hang in there.. Once he's moved again you'll probably go thru the not hearing again until he's settled...It will pass....

Deb

It is great you heard from him so soon. I am sure it was a huge relief. And you should be able to keep up with him through the locator. It is always so stressful when you don't know what is going on. Hand in there.

On Monday, June 9th, I was senteced to 46 months and the judge recommeded the 500 hour RDAP and ICC Bootcamp, however, unlike your husband I was able to self surrender in 60 days.

I just received a call from my attorney and he said, from the information he was able to obtain, I can attend the RDAP once I have 36 months left on my sentence. The reduction is up to a year and the last 6 months of my sentence can be served in a half way house.

The ICC Bootcamp is available only after I have 30 or less months left of my sentence. The Boot Camp last for 6 months and the remaining time is split between a halfway home and home confinement.

My attorney's resources tell him that if I take the RDAP program I will have to wait until I have less than 12 months, instead of 30, left on my sentence before I can volunteer for the Bootcamp program. If this is the case, there doesnt seem to be a benefit of taking both unless drugs are a real issue.

It seems that not taking the 500 hour RDAP and waiting for Bootcamp would seem to get me out quicker.

My attorney is not 100% about the facts that I just wrote. This was just info that he gathered within a couple of days after my sentencing. More research is being done and I will post as soon as more info is available.

If anyone knows more about these 2 programs and how they can reduce time, please let me know....

Hi Hans!

Thanks for the info. I wonder which program is better to take on which will take more time off.

If you get more info please post them for me I would appreciate it. ;)

Yes my husband was taken right after his sentence. Its been a nightmare with all the transferrs.

At least you know where your going to be and not have to go through transferrs all the time like my husband has. He's still waiting to get transferred AGAIN.

Hans I wish you strength through your journey...
Keep your head up and set goals for yourself...
Wishing you the best...
God bless you..

I just checked out the BOP ICC Bootcamp Program statement and was bummed out after reading it. http://www.bop.gov/progstat/5390_008.pdf

For the lucky ones like your husband and I that get sentences between 30-60 months, the BOP will not transfer an inmate to a boot camp until we get within 24 months of our projected release date. And if you graduate from the RDAP, you will not be able to volunteer for the ICC Boot Camp till you are 12 months from the projected release date. Therefore, I dont believe there is a benefit in taking both programs because the time of release would be the same if you volunteered to take one or both of the programs.

So, from talking to my attorney and reading on various websites, taking the RDAP by itself is the best route. While in the ICC boot camp program alot of the priveleges are taken away or limited, such as telephone use and visitations.

I am sorry for the trials that you are having to endure and pray that you and your husbands time apart will pass quickly. I know that for the 2 months I was incarcerated when I was first arrested by the FBI, my wife and I were able to draw closer to God as well as to each other. I hope the same will remain true during the 46 month sentence.

Anyway, I am truly happy to know that a forum such as this is available to allow people be informed as well as comforted.

Hans

Hans thanks for the info. Reading that link made me sad also.

Like you mentioned it will draw you closer to god as well as to each other. We do alot of writing. It keeps the communications going which is very important. My husband says receiving letters makes the day. Tell your wife, friends and family to write to you onces you get there.

I agree to your comment of PTO. This is a great site for information and support.

We all need to keep the faith and time will pass quickly.

Hi Butterfly -
I just jumped onto your boat! I am going through the same things you just went through. My husband was sentenced to 60 months and was taken into custody right away (although we thought FOR SURE he would be able to self surrender!)
He's been in the county jail for 4 weeks now....still waiting to be transfered to a prison site.
The judge recommended the drug program but not the boot camp...I was bummed that he didn't get recommendation for boot camp. Then after looking into it, I don't think both of them work well together.
For the Substance Abuse Program, he should be able to start the program when he has 3 years remaining. This will give him up to one year sentence reduction and 6 months guaranteed half-way house (many times 3 of those months will be home confinement)
For the Boot Camp, he can only begin that process when he has 2 years remaining (6 months of boot camp). This doesn't allow for reduction in sentence BUT after boot camp is completed he would serve the rest of his time in a halfway house/home confinement.
So, if your husband gets into the drug program.....i think the boot camp won't be able to do much more....
This is what I've learned from bop.gov
Is your husband close to you....how far away is he from you?
Oceana

HI Oceana!!

Welcome to PTO....I know that feeling...We both had thought he was going to self surrender also.

He's still in FDC in Miami so he's an hour away right now till he gets transferred and then will see how far he is. Not looking forward to that :(

You see your husband in County? It gets better once he gets transferred you get to see him without the glass. You finally get to see him face to face which is a great feeling. You get to hug and kiss him again. Look forward to that Oceana!

No, I don't see him in county jail
We live in California and he is in New York!!
I wish I could see him through glass!
Why is your husband getting transferred out again? He can't stay where he is?
I also wanted to ask you and others about the phone call situation.....once they get to federal prison, how do they get a phone card and how much does it cost?

Oceana Im sorry misread your Post.

Did u request a Prison at sentence?

My husband got sentenced and was tooken to County Jail. He was there for a week then went to a federal Detention Center to get registered to the Federal System and is still there (this is a federal holding cell for sentencing, transferrs etc. Here he does not go outside). He's waiting to get transferred to Federal Prison and hopefully that will be his last stop.

As for phone calls. County he called me everyday collect calls and we talked alot (he would call 3 to 4 times) and cost a ton too. As for federal he gets 300 minutes a month. He can put as much as he can. I dont know the limit but I know we put $60 a month. But he needs to use his minutes wisely cause last month we ran out of minutes for 5 days (that was so hard not to talk to him even if its for a min.) so this month we figured he can use 10 min a day for 30 days. Were cutting it close again this month cause he only has 10 min and we still have 3 days left in this month. Its not a phone card its like an account that the federal prison holds for them.

oceana Hi i know alittle about federal my son is in federal he first went to mdc in Brooklyn he stayed there for about 2 months until the place that we was going had the room and he and all other inmates had to wait for the bus to take them to there new house it could take some time the bus makes alot of stopes in different places, as for the phone they have to put money in there account. i hope that this helps you janice

Thanks for all your help.....it really makes me feel less alone! My husband is waiting to go to Brooklyn....
for the first stop anyway (then hopefully near me in California!) I really feel good knowing that i found you guys!

I am getting the idea that you need to have a 3 year sentance in order to take the 500 drug program. So if you have 24 months you can't take it and get a year off?