View Full Version : Alabama visitation - step children - Elba Work Release


i love donovan
10-18-2005, 10:33 PM
Hey everyone,
Has anyone had any trouble bringing step childern to visitation?Well, my husband is at Elba work release and , i was just informed Sunday that my kids can know longer visit my husband.My kids have been going to see him for 41/2 years.The officer said if we would have gotten married before he got incarcerated tehn they could come and visit.We got married 3 years ago, but what does that matter.I called around to several different prisons and asked what there visitation rule was about step childern they said as long as you were married.My kids are broken hearted.So if anyone has any information please let me know.

cember
10-19-2005, 05:53 AM
i love donovan, this rule is in effect for the whole DOC, some camps are enforcing it sooner or harder than others I guess.. I had a long thread about this a few weeks/months ago... Call Donal Campbell, the Commissioner's office and complain to him.. He is the only one who can help.....

DeniseJ
10-19-2005, 08:13 AM
the DOC office told me over the phone that it was correct, that all facilities would be informed of the "new rules", under the "new rules" my daughter can't visit with her (step) dad (i hate the word step) anyways, Kennys at Bibb and we haven't been turned around yet. I am waiting for them to tell me she can't come but so far nothing....

I'm so sorry that they've came up with is, its hard enough on families as it is without them doing this...

denisej

fire_rain53
10-19-2005, 10:03 AM
:angry:
I think this stinks to high heaven! How do you explain to children that they can no longer visit someone that they love and have developed a relationship with. Sometimes, the only father these children have are their inmate father. This is just another example of how screwed up this world is...and I just don't mean the DOC. I have seen this same kind of asinine thinking in divorce and custody hearings. Why can't these people see the harm that they are doing to the children.

Jamie (i love donovan) and her husband deserve the right to be a family. Those children have visited him for over 4 years and because they were not married before he was incarcerated....but are now....they are being turned away. It is a bunch of bull! When Donovan is released, it would be great if he was already a permanent fixture in their lives, and he is....but will it last if they are denied visitation?

I think this rule needs to be revised...they are doing a big injustice to these kids.


Kay

DeniseJ
10-19-2005, 12:09 PM
so true, my daughter wasn't able to visit with Kenny when he was a fountain or any other place. when he first got to bibb co. and told us that she could visit him there i like to have fell out!!!

but as i look back on the past couple of years, kenny has always sent her letters and little notes to let her know that he was thinking of her, so their relationship has remained strong with or without visits...

i'll just be so very glad when this is over and we can get ourself a whole new set of problems that do not included ADOC...

Blueyez94
10-19-2005, 12:23 PM
Me and the kids went to visit Raymond this past weekend and didn't have any problems. This was the first time they have seen him since he was transferred. I just hope the next time we won't have problems. They do need to change that rule, because it is not fair to anyone involved...

i love donovan
10-21-2005, 08:59 PM
Hey everyone,
I emailed Brian Corbett yesterday,He emailed me back.As long as the childern was seeing him that they could visit, but i had to have a paper notarized, which i had that last weekendwhen the officer told me that.I am so happy that they can visit..I just hope that my husband does not get in any trouble ,because i emailed brian.

InLuvWALPrsnr
10-25-2005, 08:24 AM
Praise to God!! Isn't He a wonderful God! I know the kids are really excited too!

God Bless!

i love donovan
10-25-2005, 11:19 PM
I want to know , I called the Warden about step childern visiting, she said what happened was they was going to make it where step chikern could not visit if you was not married before he got locked up, but alot of people complained so Steo chiildern can visit as long they have been visiting.Like if an inmate gets married now and has step chilern then they could not visit.I am so happy that my babies can visit,God is good!

Blueyez94
10-26-2005, 09:29 AM
I just got married to Raymond in August of this year and so far I haven't had any problems with my kids visiting him. As a matter of fact the last visit (weekend before last) the girls went. I did have to fill out a form and put there names and birthdays and have it witnessed.

DeniseJ
11-23-2005, 09:20 AM
hey gang..just wanted to let you all know that this past sunday Bibb started enforcing the new state rule

the childs birth certificate has to have inmates name on it as father in order for child to visit.

no stepchildren
no grandchildren

Kenny said it was a real mess down there and several families were very very upset and let it be known....

we all had the feeling that this was going to happen, now it has...

DeniseJ

i love donovan
11-24-2005, 09:47 PM
Denise,
You know me and my husband went through this a month ago, and you need to email Brian Corbett and Janet Findley, they really helped me.Here is a email from Brian Corbett after I questioned him about it.If you need anything I am just a pm awayMs.

I received the following response from Warden Foster. I'd suggest you
contact the warden.


If stepchildren were previously visiting and the guardian provides a
notarized copy of the request for children to visit form ,they are
allowed
to continue to visit. Note: I have talked to Mrs.? several
times on
the phone and she has never mentioned any problems in reference to
visitation to me. If she had ,I could have answered her questions.

Warden Foster
Elba Community Based Facility


Brian Corbett
Public Information Manager
Alabama Dept. of Corrections
301 South Ripley Street
Montgomery AL 36104
(334) 353 4053
(334) 353 3967 fax
bcorbett@doc.state.al.us (http://us.f312.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=bcorbett@doc.state.al.us&YY=63261&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b)
www.doc.state.al.us

DeniseJ
11-29-2005, 11:00 AM
like everything else, every facility is different with there rules..Kenny and I both hate to rock the boat with the DOC, so as soon as I heard about these new rules i stopped taking my daughter down there, thank god we are almost finished with DOC but my heart just breaks to know that are going to be hurt by this...

caresworld
12-27-2005, 09:32 PM
I wanted to add what happened with us when we went for a visit on Sunday Dec 11th it was the first oppertunity to visit that I had after his father passed away on Dec 1. And the girls always make him feel better so I thought that I would bring them down and that I would bring whatever was needed Birthcertificates social security cards notarized letters I had it all with me of course I was ready for a war and armed to go, and they did not give us any trouble had us fill out some new paperwork after the visit and said that they were set to visit anytime, but I think that it is because we are married and we have had paperwork going back and forth for his adopting the girls. But I thought that I would share that.I hope that it is that easy for all of you because I know no matter what may be going on that they can came around him and they get him to smile and laugh and they love on him and it always makes him feel better like he says it makes him forget where he is when they are around( we will see if he thinks that when the are 16 and become the wild twin teenage daughters you hear horror stories of and he is waiting up all night cause they are out all night like he use to do to his parents, just kidding I like to tease him that will happen) Now If I can keep the 3 of them from going crazy with the plans before he comes home April 29 of this year and keep me sane to we should all be good.

Care

Blueyez94
12-30-2005, 10:05 AM
I took my 3 girls on the 25th to see my husband/there father (he is at bullock) and had no problems. I had to fill out a form and they made copies of there birth certificates and that was pretty much it...I hope next time they go we don't have problems...you can never tell with the DOC...

DeniseJ
12-30-2005, 10:20 AM
Bibb County Correctional new rule is: children are allowed to visit only if inmate is listed as father on birth certificate.

many inmates are very upset over this, no stepchildren, no nephews no nieces, no grandchildren without written approval from warden.

teamrenfroe-1
01-16-2006, 09:08 PM
hello all....I know Ive been missing for awile...

My daughter was turned away also at Bibb after being able to visit all this time. Her biological father lost interest in her after she was diagnosed with Leukemia in 1997, and my husband Wendell now is the only Dad she has known. Its a shame that this has happened.

DeniseJ, do you think it would do any good to make a request to Warden Price?
Please let me know. This has been hard on my husband and my daughter both.

Blessings to all of you.
Barrett

DeniseJ
01-17-2006, 11:42 AM
DeniseJ, do you think it would do any good to make a request to Warden Price?
Please let me know. This has been hard on my husband and my daughter both.


I really don't know if it would or not, as most of you know, i'm in the same shoes are you, my daughter is not kennys child but was allowed to visit, but sense the new rule i've not even attempted to take her.

however i did ask one of the quards and she said to bring our marrage license with me, but i haven't and i'm not,

please let us know how things turn out and if i was you and would ask warden price..can't hurt...dj