I don't understand why when he's in there he stays clean and then as soon as he's release he gets high. It's not like he can't get it on the inside . I just don't understand

This is just my opinion but I think that a person has to want to quit using drugs. Just because someone is forced to stay away from drugs or forced into rehad does not mean that they will quit.

Addiction is considered a weakness on the inside. My ex is a 20+ year crack addict and he does not use while on the inside. But, last time he got out he was using within the hour. Another crack addict told me that he would do WHATEVER it took to get his next hit on the outside, but on the inside you don't want to get the reputation of being on your knees unless it's to pray.

I agree with JaysgirlsSS.. it's a change that one has to want to make. it's a whole lot easier to stay clean when you remove yourself from the environment you're used to, when using. when it gets real bad I have known people to move out of cities entirely to get away from the ghosts they had from all the times... and that isn't even touching on any possible physical dependancy!

IMO: he is going to have to want to change, and then get away from it. tell him how you feel about this, that it worries you. I am sure he already knows. but sometimes you have to be careful not to sound like you're accusing, just concerned for him. best of luck to you!

i don't understand it either. he will be clean in jail, and even on work release but within three weeks of getting out he was using again. this time he has prison time and he is clean but i worry about when he gets out. he say's that he quit for good this time but he said that last time too.

He may not be able to afford it either while he is in. Any kind of drugs because they are illegal and contraband are VERY expensive. You've got to have money and if you don't, you probably won't get near any kind of drugs in there. He has also got to want to stop, because when he gets out, the supply is more readily available.

My hubby did the same thing...
Check out "What I have to do now" in the Drug and Alchol forum..
Its mine and my hubbys story..
Sadly, I am learning that my hubby is not the only one that this happens too.
First of all, I am learning that he used inside. He admitted that to me. Visits
werent every weekend. And of course, he could use on during the week as well. And let me say this, it doesnt take alot of money to use.. if they want to use.. They may have a friend that is using and gives it to them. All different kinds of ways trust me..
I asked my hubby the same question that you are asking,just days before he beat the hell out of me for $20 to go and get a fix...
And his reply was this to me...
and it made all the sense in the world to me..
SO lets see what you girls think? Its not an excuse cause I dont make excuses for him any longer...
But it said it like this...
Tina you have a weight problem right? Yes I said..
He said, OK saw they locked you in a room for 6 mths and in this room all they brought to you everyday was fruits and veggies and water..
You would loose weight right? I said yes, he said you would learn to eat that right? I said yes, but I wouldnt like it.
He said and lets say in 6 mths they let you out of that room and they put you into a room with all kinds of chocolates, cakes, soda, candy and pizza..
What is the first thing you are going to do? I said get me a soda, a pizza and what ever else that I havent had in 6 mths..
He said, do you know why? I said cause thats what I want and they wouldnt let me have it.
And he said, he said right, because they locked you in that room and made you eat that, they didnt teach you or learn you about what to eat and not to eat.. the did nothing for your eatting habit.. I thought and thought and I understood what he was saying.. Very simply statted..
Our prison system does nothing to help inmates with a drug habit, locking them up is simply not enough... they need rehab and education
and sometimes that isnt enough...
Yes using is a choice, I know that..
But locking them up isnt always they answer either, some have done the drug habit all their lives its all they know.. In prison they have to live a different life than on the streets, when they hit the streets its their world and noone can tell them what to do or not..
I pray someday all who lives this life, will seek the help needed..
God bless each and everyone of you and your loved ones
Just know this love yourself more , than to ever think that you love is enough to change them..
Its not and never will be, the want and will has to be of their choosing...

much love and blessing
Tina

Just wanted to share a book that I am reading also,
Its called.... A million little pieces... by James Frey
Its on Oprahs Book CLub
once you start reading it you will not want to put it down,
Its the true story of James Frey and his life with drugs and addiction
reading it, it was as if I was reading my hubbys story and his life and mine living with him..
James Frey was one of the few whom had the want and will to make it..
I wish my hubby did , he doesnt.. Get the book and read it you wont be sorry
One more thing a friend of mine told me that has stuck in my head and she is an recovering addict ..
If you live with an addict and your arent an addict you live like one...
does that make sense? She was so right!!!

Many blessing and much love

Tina

Out of Sight, Out of Mind....Essentially.....

What makes you think he DOESN'T use while he's inside? I know around here, it actually easier to get inside because everybody knows who has it, instead of spending hours running back and forth andchasing down the connect. I know my hubby was offered stuff by at least three people the day he hit the mainline. This is the first time he's ever said no. Probably in his whole life.

Most addicts sent to jail or prison will use in prison and your right..
Dont think they cant get it or use in there, they can..
they can get acess to needles you name it they can get it...
it aint hard...

my cousin was in prison for 15 months and away from heroin and as soon as she got out she went to using the same day. I was in prison for 8 months and once i got out i stayed away from the crystal meth so i guess it is all up to how serious you are to stay away from the drugs and change you r life....

There could be many reasons as to why they stay clean on the inside (or perhaps they are using and we just don't know about it). However, it seems reasonable to me that they would be less likely to use on the inside. For one, they could get in trouble and get extra time added on to their sentence. For two, it's not the same crowd they know on the streets. It's riskier in prison I would think...not a whole lot of money, people may expect favors, people may rat them out....fights!!!

On the outside they don't have to sit and be paranoid about any of these things. They can get what they want and use it in privacy or sit within a group of drug buds they have been using with for most of their lives. If a fight breaks out they can leave the scene. In prison their trapped and the person they trust today may be their worst enemy tomorrow.

And probably many other reasons.....hopefully they will come out and make the decision to stay clean, but as we have all seen that is usually not the case. All it takes is one puff or one drink (or whatever else) and they fall back into their active disease full force. One of anything is too much and never enough!!!

Tina - "A Million Little Pieces" is a good read, but it's not non-fiction (Frey has admitted that he's tweaked a lot of it, and exaggerated most of it). But Tat's explanation is pretty much right on, from what I've been told. And there's one thing that an alcohol counselor told me when I was setting up an intervention for my ex - she listened to his history (as told by me) and said "You realize, he may NEED to drink, to keep his internal world under some kind of control." Whether it's internal chemistry or early experiences, or recent trauma, sometimes there just aren't any handles that counselors or AA or NA can give them that will work.