What kind of conditions and treatment can Lynndie England expect in her military prison? How do these compare to fed?

Alot of military end up in regular federal prisons.

There is a section of the forums on Military / UCMJ prisons in the regional sections. You might have more luck there... :)

I'm not sure if she will make it to the regular federal prison system because she only has about 3 years to do, I believe.

I have gone ahead and moved this thread over to the Military / UCMJ forum where it may get more attention.

Please don't quote me, but I believe that female military members are held at one central facility in San Diego, CA. RCFs (Regional Confinement Facilities) are for prisoners with less than 5 year sentences and USDB is for 5 and over, as well as violent offenders, they are all male. Military prisons are pretty much the same as civilian, perhaps less efficient (go figure) and less "program-centered." There are fewer gang-related problems and fewer drug problems (from what I've heard). Federal transfer for an inmate with only 3 years to serve is unlikely. UCMJ sentencing is different from state or federal in that the sentencing guidelines are not applied. She will likely serve 1/3 of her sentence before being eligible for parole, unless the court deemed her ineligible. As a general rule, any term of years less than 30 serves 1/3, over 30 and less than Life, serves 10 before parole eligibility, and good time credits, as well as pretrial confinement credit, is given. Otherwise, not much difference. Hope this helps some.
~ Lisa

Please don't quote me, but I believe that female military members are held at one central facility in San Diego, CA. RCFs (Regional Confinement Facilities) are for prisoners with less than 5 year sentences and USDB is for 5 and over, as well as violent offenders, they are all male. Military prisons are pretty much the same as civilian, perhaps less efficient (go figure) and less "program-centered." There are fewer gang-related problems and fewer drug problems (from what I've heard). Federal transfer for an inmate with only 3 years to serve is unlikely. UCMJ sentencing is different from state or federal in that the sentencing guidelines are not applied. She will likely serve 1/3 of her sentence before being eligible for parole, unless the court deemed her ineligible. As a general rule, any term of years less than 30 serves 1/3, over 30 and less than Life, serves 10 before parole eligibility, and good time credits, as well as pretrial confinement credit, is given. Otherwise, not much difference. Hope this helps some.
~ Lisa

Females are kept in Navy Brig Marina/San Diego; unless on death row or an extremely violent offender. Then they move to USDB. She will never be granted parole; I can pretty much assure you that. Military officers sitting on her release board will take into fact how she embarrassed the military and the crime. Both extremely hard to convince senior officers that she has learned from and should be (re)considered for an OTH and parole.

I was in NCBM (the Naval Consolidated Brig-Miramar in San Diego). She will end up there since that's where all females go (unless, as stated above, death row). She will almost definately not get parole as USDBMP has stated...because the military consider someone embarrassing the military as the most serious of offenses. I found NCBM to be rather program oriented...they were very big on making sure you got treatment, therapy, etc. The guards...well, that's another story. Some of them let the "I'm a guard...." go to their heads and can be really dumb and instigate stuff. One guard in particular....(not sure if I can post names or not)...but she was the worst of all...No one...I mean absolutely NO ONE liked her. One of the prisoners tried to cut her wrists in the shower and this particular guard laughed at her and was telling all the other guards at chow what happened earlier on. Anyways...I know she will probably get a lot of hell from other inmates (many do not agree with what she did), but there is seldom any fights....if inmates even start raising their voices a bit, we get locked down. So, physical fights hardly ever occur. There are/were some really idiotic rules at NCBM when I left in March (like we couldn't have stamps...no physical contact of any kind, not even a handshake or a hug when someone was crying). They do have some good things tho, like we had Toastmasters (which I loved) and good classes to take. To make phone calls, you have to have money on ur acct (as phone cards are not allowed), and it takes about a week to get money put on ur phone acct when u submit the form. Let's see..what else can I say....she'll notice that men are treated differently....better...than the women. The men don't get harrassed as much about little things (like in the female dorm we can't have more than 4 ppl at table, but in the male dorms it didn't matter...I used to work maintainence crew and so I would see this with my own eyes when working in the male dorms). The men and women aren't "supposed" to talk unless it is work or group (i.e. therapy, church, Toastmasters) related...but most don't follow that rule anyways...some guards are anal about it tho. There are a few women that are there that are literally crazy...if she's smart, she will stay away from them...one in particular...she has a 25 year sentence and is truly (no offense meant to anyone) crazy. Best adivce I can give is do ur program they set up for you, don't let the guards fool you...they are not ur friends (some try to be only to stab you in your back later)....make sure you NEVER have contraband because you will get caught eventually during a shakedown and that can hurt any small chance she may have at parole...oh, and don't get caught trading or giving anyone anything (can't even give a fellow female a tampon or pad if they need one...it's considered trafficking contraband...sheesh). Certain inmates (like the crazy one mentioned above) will try to find every bit of dirt on you she can...i.e. sees you trafficking a note, or any items...she will be quick to rat you out, so be careful. That's about all I can think of now. LOL. Not sure how diff all of that is compared to a fed prison, as I've never been in a fed prison before. Hope this helps.

Females are kept in Navy Brig Marina/San Diego; unless on death row or an extremely violent offender. Then they move to USDB. She will never be granted parole; I can pretty much assure you that. Military officers sitting on her release board will take into fact how she embarrassed the military and the crime. Both extremely hard to convince senior officers that she has learned from and should be (re)considered for an OTH and parole.

HEY MP - don't talk of what you know nothing! What a horrible thing to tell someone!

Exsgt,
Thanks. Just for the record, MP doesn't post anymore. :-) Believe he was a farce from the get-go.

I am sooooooooooo glad mp isn't posting anymore, the last thing we need is negitive posts! I don't know what the guards will treat Lynndie like as it could go two ways. On one hand she made the guards look bad but on the other, she is one of them. I just wonder what the inmates will treat her like?

Females are kept in Navy Brig Marina/San Diego; unless on death row or an extremely violent offender. Then they move to USDB. She will never be granted parole; I can pretty much assure you that. Military officers sitting on her release board will take into fact how she embarrassed the military and the crime. Both extremely hard to convince senior officers that she has learned from and should be (re)considered for an OTH and parole.

I know this joker doesnt post anymore, but I just wanted to update so that if anyone else reads they wont take this a...hole seriously.

Lynndie England received parole last month, that is something like half of her sentence which I think was 3 years. So it is possible, even for someone who was the poster child for all the wrongs of the war. i hope this gives everybody some hope.

http://www.times-news.com/local/local_story_084120156.html