View Full Version : I called the Canadian Embassy...
J'sGrl 05-15-2003, 08:57 AM ...and I wonder if what they told me is the truth.
J is doing time in Florida and will be deported to Canada upon his release from prison. They said the felony record will NOT follow him 'cause he's being deported (in other words, once he's in Canada, it will be OFF his records); it would only stay on his records if he applied for a transfer.
That sounds kind of strange to me, to be honest. I doubt they'd erase his felony conviction just like that...any input?
Oh yeah, he will be allowed to enter Austria (when his sentence is done with and he's off parole). He won't even need a Visa if he comes as a tourist. :) If he wants to stay longer than 3 months, he's gotta apply for residency at the Austrian Embassy in Ottawa.
S :cuffs: J
Phil in Paris 05-15-2003, 09:07 AM Das ist sehr schön !!! :) I really hope it will work this way, erasing of his felony conviction I mean.
What if its felony conviction is not erased ?? Could he still come to Austria once he's off parole ???
Phil
J'sGrl 05-15-2003, 12:51 PM Thanks Phil. :) I hope so, too.
Yes, he could still come to Austria if he's off parole.
S :cuffs: J
PS: Did your boyfriend ever get transferred to the Madison CI or is he doing time somewhere else? Just wondering, 'cause I know a few guys in the Madison CI.
tebkrg 05-15-2003, 02:16 PM Wow, if that is the case that is excellent... I don't know one way or the other about the felony following him so I will hope that it is what you were told.
Phil in Paris 05-15-2003, 03:04 PM J'sGrl
Joey is currently in Florida State Prison and was before in Santa Rosa CI. He went to quite a lot of prisons in Florida, but I don't remember if he went to Madison. He's been incarcerated for 16 yrs, and once told me all the places he "visited", but I don't remember if Madison was one of them. I'll try to find this letter back and tell you.
Phil
Abrose 07-10-2003, 09:31 PM That is what happens. I've talked to people at Foreign Affairs in Ottawa and I was told that once deported, the individual is free. Speaking as a Canadian - because he/she has not broken any laws in Canada - Canada has no right to bother or harrass anyone who is deported. However...you just knew there was one of those right...should he/she break a serious law here in Canada then the police could pull his/her record from the States and it would then go on file and any time something happened that remotely related to whatever they were in for - the cops would come knocking on your door. Being deported is the best thing that could happen because they do truly get to start over with a clean slate. Hope that helps. BTW I have found that some of the people at the Cdn Embassies are not exactly very helpful.
FriscoLady 07-11-2003, 03:25 AM Would the states deport you if you hold duel citizenship? One is U.S.
Or could you stay in the U.S.?
I know under. U.S. law you can't hold two citizenships, however, there are some countries that do not recognize that you have given up your citizenship there.
bella 07-12-2003, 11:10 PM Frisco,
If you hold dual citizenship in the US you cannot be deported as you are considered a US citizen. Where did you hear that you cannot hold dual citizenship? The US allows it but some other countries make you give up your citizenship if you take on a US one. For example my mother is both a citizen of Israel and the US, my father was of Poland and the US but Marco's dad had to give up his Italian to get his US.
As for the felony following you to Canada. Although this is true that it won't follow it will depend on the Austrian Gov't in regard to his moving there with or with out a record. If they only go by his Canadian record it will be clean. However, if they compete an Intrapol search they will find out every arrest. Again it will be up to the Austrain Gov't how deep they will look into it.
FriscoLady 07-13-2003, 02:40 PM Bella, Thank you! You have taken alot off my mind.
I hold both U.S. and German. When my ex-husband was sworn in as a U.S. Citizen he was told that he could not hold both U.S. and British. After his ceremony we were talking to some of the U.S. Officials there and they told him that he had to give up his British citizenship. He was actually born and raised in Hamilton, Bermuda. However, when he checked into it with the British officials they said no, in fact, they do not recognize the fact that he (or any British citizen) had given up their citizenship. I thought it odd at the time, but never questioned it!
Thank you, Bella
Patti
grasshopper 07-13-2003, 07:48 PM The foreign country will recognize dual citizenship but the US doesn't. I guess the case with the Italian citizenship is that Italy must not recognize duals either. And there is bIG downside to deportation, it isn't quite the comfy thing it seems to be beingmade out here. Because once you are deported that is it, you cannot return to the US ever. My fiance will be deported to Canada if he is convicted and he will never be allowed to return to visit his 4 kids from a previous marriage. Tohim that is more serius than having a conviction on his record since his ex certainly isn't going to go out of her way to bring them to Canada to see him. But htere is an interesting possibility for some people in htis situation who have already been convicted, since the US sometimes will allow foreign nationals to serve out their sentance in their home country. it's called international prisoner transfers. Info in case anyone is interested.
http://www.fd.org/Publications/SpecTop/PrisonerTransferIntl.pdf.
bella 07-13-2003, 08:42 PM grasshopper,
I don't think anyone here is making deportation seem cushy. For very few people there are some positives such as with J's situation. However, for the rest of us, including myself, deportation is stripping our family apart. We all share you pain and understand your hurt.
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