View Full Version : Is Your Snookums A Muslim?


classycrazy
09-09-2005, 11:05 AM
I saw the post about giving up pork and I was actually wondering this a few days ago... How many of you have a Muslim inmate?

Have you faced any problems with it at all?

David said that the three other Muslims in the jail (He hasn't been transported yet, or even sentenced) are treated unfairly. They try to pray in the same area's as other religious people do, and are forced out.

Are YOU a Muslim?
If not, does this bring up issues between you?
Has he asked you to anything "Different" and are/have you done it?

I have so many questions for you if you are! Cus I AM TOO! lol! Guidance is a wonderful thing!

Oh, in case anyone wonders, yes I am a Muslim, but a very new Muslim.

kayos-grl
09-09-2005, 11:24 AM
My now ex is a Muslim and he did not tell me until way far into our relationship. He knew from the jump that I was a christian. Now I don't have any problem with what a person believes, but I feel it is wrong to try to force someone to believe something they don't believe in. Needless to say we are no longer together due to the whole situation and I feel that it is the best thing.

sharlelia
09-09-2005, 11:26 AM
My baby's swears he is buddahist, but on his store reciepts he still eat meat (beef ramen noodles were a dead giveaway.)

classycrazy
09-09-2005, 11:40 AM
Yes, my David was a Muslim since way before he was convicted, way before he met me even. I think since he was in the Marines and that at least 10 years ago.

one_luv
09-09-2005, 11:54 AM
My man is also a Muslim, and like a lot of black men, got into his faith when he was locked up. It seems to be the one religion that really reaches out to them in prison.

I am not a Muslim, and never will be, and have a lot of disagreements with the different churches, especially the Nation of Islam. I have read a lot of their writing in an effort to understand what my husband was reading. I have a big problem with what they teach in regard to separation of race and sexes. I don't want to start a battle about what is right or wrong, I am just saying that I completely disagree with many of the various Church's and religious leaders' teaching, and especially that it is often used as a tool for power and control.

I think a lot of people misunderstand the religion because of all the governments and leaders who use it as a tool for power, control and oppression. Like the Bible, the Koran is open to interpretation. A lot of the so-called laws are actually cultural customs, from what he has told me.

Islam has helped my husband become a better man who controls his temper, is committed to having and meeting his goals, and helps his brothers. Because of that, I totally support his religious choice. I also admire that he is committed to it even under the conditions that 9/11 has brought.

At one time I considered myself a Christian, and he didn't agree with it, but he supported me in my search for the truth and strength to make it through these hard times. We have never had a fight or major problems over our differing beliefs because we don't expect one another to adopt it. He doesn't think I should follow religious beliefs just because he does, and he has never once requested anything from me except that I show respect for it. He does not believe that his wife has to follow islam in order for him to be a "true" muslim. As long as he keeps this attitude, it's all good.

Regarding your questions about the treatment of Muslims in prison, even more so after 9/11, there has been a lot of hatred from COs and other prisoners. But, they do have their own minister and prayer time, special functions and speakers, and their special conditions are met during Ramadan. So, overall, the prison administration does try to accommodate.

LadyAnticipate
09-10-2005, 12:55 PM
ONLY COMMENTING...but I have heard that a lot of like rapists and child molesters try to say they are muslims in prison for the protection. Muslims are the one group that wont treat them bad, beat them up for their crime....

Mad's Wife
09-10-2005, 05:06 PM
My finace has been Muslim all his Life, and I've been Christian all my life. Of course we have talked about me converting, being as though we will soon be married, and in almost any religion, the wife/woman should follow her husbands belief, or atleast support it. Although, he wants me to eventually convert, he has NEVER pressured me, which I really do appreciate, because I know how important Islam has been to him his whole life, and I also know how important I have been in his life, and now that he wants to make me his wife, it is basically mandatory that I eventually convert, but he's so patient, & that makes such a huge difference.

As I have explained to him, being as though I know nuffin about Islam (except the basics) & by him being locked up, and not able to fully explain to me the faith, and answer certain things in detail, basically not being able to be "hands-on", it's hard for me to convert, & I've also explained to him that "IF & WHEN" I do consider converting, I don't feel as though it should be a decision that he or I make, it should be a natural "calling" and a natural "wanting", for I think that is the most geniune way of entering any faith, and he strongly agrees. Weve also agreed that we will cross this bridge once we get to it, and regardless of what the out come is, our love for each other takes precedence over everything, even Islam!

one_luv
09-10-2005, 08:54 PM
ONLY COMMENTING...but I have heard that a lot of like rapists and child molesters try to say they are muslims in prison for the protection. Muslims are the one group that wont treat them bad, beat them up for their crime....

I find this hard to believe. Although Muslims do not believe in violence, if they found out someone was pretending to be one of them and wasn't sincere, they would not be treated well. Also, I think Muslims have less tolerance for sex crimes than other religions.
Not that I know everything about it, but it sounds like a myth to me.

shortyncute
09-10-2005, 09:55 PM
Hello everyone

Yes, Donald is a Mulism. Im the one that posted about the pork! :) We never talked about our faiths! I have always respected him being a Mulism and me a bapist. I was asking what type of Mulism he is and he in turned asked me if I wanted to "turn" Mulism. I was just asking cause I have had others ask me and I didnt know. I told him that I didnt think I could turn because I didnt believe in a lot of what they where teaching. I love him for him, not for what he believes. I told him when he gets out that we can talk about it. I dont think its going to be a problem. He told me when we get married..its all me :)

MamaSheila
09-12-2005, 03:34 AM
Nooooooo.

Mrs_Bernabela
10-03-2005, 11:23 AM
Yes, my man is also a Muslim. He has been so for his entire life. The only conflict that we encounter is the prok thing. He was always against it when I was pregnant with our daughter, mainly because my favorite thing to eat was Ham subs from SUBWAY. However, he also feels that neither of our daughters should it wat either. Not to mention, they both love BACON and HAM.

I promised him that I would try to refrain from eating pork by the time that he is released. I am not sure that he is 100% convinced at this point.

WisdomsQueen
10-03-2005, 02:20 PM
My baby is a Five Percenter... Not certain if that is deemed full Muslim or not but I know that they relate. Anyway - he has never wanted me to convert. We spoke about it and he believes that if it is for me to convert than it will be shown to me. He is not trying to convert me. He respects my religion (baptist) and I respect his. But he is in the process of fully converting while incarcerated. He was never really into the church in the christian sense and he had issues with that religion as a whole... it felt right to him when he decided he was gonna convert. And I have no issues with his decision.

LadyDamu415
10-03-2005, 02:31 PM
I have a question and please forgive me if it is really stupid or neive because I honestly do not know the answer. If you are Muslim is it tru that you cannot eat pork and you aren't allowd to date or even marry white people? I heard that and then when I was visiting I saw this man that is Muslim adn he had just married a white woman and he was eating a pork rib sandwhich. I was just curious.

kayos-grl
10-03-2005, 02:40 PM
From what I understand and anyone can correct me if I am wrong...my ex says that they don't eat pork because it is the filtiest animal (but it sure is GOOD TO ME) and they would be disowned if they dated or married a white person. I don't get it because now he wants to be back with me and I am half white:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
I have a question and please forgive me if it is really stupid or neive because I honestly do not know the answer. If you are Muslim is it tru that you cannot eat pork and you aren't allowd to date or even marry white people? I heard that and then when I was visiting I saw this man that is Muslim adn he had just married a white woman and he was eating a pork rib sandwhich. I was just curious.

nu2this05
10-03-2005, 03:14 PM
My Husband Is A Muslim I Guess He Has An Open Mind For All. He Talks About It Ever So Often Even Has A Muslin Name In Prison He Goes By He Doesn't Eat Pork I Do I Read Somethings About Muslims Something About They Can Beat Thier Womens They Are Beneath Them All Kind Of Crazy Stuff. I Don't Agree And He Doesn't Force Me Too...

luischristina
10-03-2005, 03:32 PM
About the question concerning marrying white people Im not sure how the Nation of Islam works (also now as 5 percenters) but I know that in true Islam everyone is the same regardless of the color of their skin so A muslim man may marry whom he pleases however a woman can only marry a muslim man if she marries a non muslim man the marriage is considered invalid in gods eyes and it doesnt matter if you and your spouse are of the same race or not because like I said before we are all the same in gods eyes regardless of the color of our skin and no muslims do not eat pork because its considered a filthy animal..

Najm
10-03-2005, 03:45 PM
Alex believes in Monotheism, so he lives as a Muslim. I was raised as a Protestant, but don't follow any religion now.
He is Hispanic and I am white and so far we've not encountered any problems in preparing to get married.
I won't be converting to Islam, but I am interested to learn more about it as time goes on.

PBE
10-03-2005, 10:08 PM
My baby found Islam while he is doing his bid. He has never tried to force his knowledge on me or make me convert. He has shared information with me and I've looked up some info too. It seems peaceful to me. And I see the peace in him . I can't say if I would convert though because I've been Catholic since birth and even thought there's some things about Catholicism I don't agree with, it's what I am used to , you know ? But my baby and I love each other for what we mean to each other , not for how we pray to God.

jblovesdb
10-03-2005, 10:16 PM
Yes, my man IS a muslim! I am NOT a muslim. And this has caused some disagreements between us. I completely respect his religion...but it's not for me! And sometimes he tends to forget that and tries to push it on me...which I don't like!! We also have issues over somethings that I don't see the big deal in...but I know they are important for him. I try to understand and be supportive, b/c if it's helping him...that's a good thing to me! He seems really focused since he has become a Muslim...and I think that's a good thing. I just don't like when he tries to push it on me. I have my own beliefs...not any specific religion, but I do believe in God...and I don't have any plans on changing those beliefs.
And as for marrying a white person...I hope that isn't the truth...b/c then Dave and I are gonna have some problems! I know that they aren't allowed to marry anyone that is athiest or worships things like statues. Hugs:p
-Jackie

Bin Waitin
10-03-2005, 10:23 PM
. . . It seems to be the one religion that really reaches out to them in prison. Christianity is there. It doesn't reach out -- the men know it's there -- if they want it they know where to go. My husband said it's looked upon like geekish. Peer presure could make some make the choices they make. My husband know he need Jesus so he ain't even trying to play wit it.

I am not a Muslim, and never will be, and have a lot of disagreements with the different churches, especially the Nation of Islam. I have read a lot of their writing in an effort to understand what my husband was reading. I have a big problem with what they teach in regard to separation of race and sexes. I don't want to start a battle about what is right or wrong, I am just saying that I completely disagree with many of the various Church's and religious leaders' teaching, and especially that it is often used as a tool for power and control.

I think a lot of people misunderstand the religion because of all the governments and leaders who use it as a tool for power, control and oppression. . . . the Koran . . . A lot of the so-called laws are actually cultural customs, from what he has told me.
. .
^^^ my sentiments exactly.

one_luv
10-04-2005, 01:55 AM
Regarding marrying white people: Nation of Islam teaches seperation of races and sexes (they actually advocate for a seperate country within the U.S. for Black people). But as far as not being allowed to marry a white person, I don't know. NOI is just one big church, like, let's say Foursquare Gospel (a pnenecostal christan church) it's sad so many people base their knowledge on them and the oppressive governments of the middle east. This is not true Islam.

Islam does not teach racism, there is nothing about skin color in the Koran or taught by most sects, and unlike Christianity, they didn't use the Koran as a tool to enslave and kills millions of people because of their race.

Regarding the marriage, a muslim woman is "supposed" to marry a muslim man but a muslim man is "allowed" to marry any woman as long as she believes in God and is not an atheist. This has to do with children: men used to rule the family and make decisions. Things are changin though, there are sects, like the sufi, that are giving equal rights women.

classycrazy
10-04-2005, 03:54 PM
I am so pleased to know my post has inspired such a wonderful conversation! Keep the information coming ladies!

Aa' ishah
10-04-2005, 06:06 PM
I am Muslim! An so is my hubby. Islam is a wonderful thing, when you understand it.

ONE LUV I thought you post was very interesting. An you are correct about the Nation of Islam, they teach race separation and alot of hate. THis is so far from what Islam is truly about. Muslims are every race and color, they represent a rainbow. MalcomX started off with the Nation of Islam as did Muhammud Ali, once they started studying and went over to Mecce for Hajj, they saw muslims of all races praying and worshiping together, they left the Nation!! The Nation of Islam was responsible for Malcolm's murder. I could go on and on!

Those of you who are married to Muslim men, take the time to learn and understand and you might be surprised!

Islam is a peaceful religion, Ramadam is starting tomorrow for those of you with spouses that are Muslims, encourage them and learn during this festive season of our.

Wa Laakem Asa Laam

dynasty2007
10-04-2005, 07:20 PM
Very enlightened posts.
My uncle is a muslim, as One love states, there are TWO different types of Muslims the Black Muslims and the ORTHODOX muslims. I don't put down either of them because I can tell you where I come from Oakland, CA., they've done so much for our community and I would rather see these youngsters in the NOI instead of laying in the middle of the street with a bullet in their body. I don't agree with some of the teachings of the NOI but I will not say anything negative about them because they've saved a lot of youngsters from drugs and violence.
Also I believe once Malcolm received spritual guidance from the wholly land of Mecca, he started his own chapters and was assinated, so correct if
I'm wrong but there are two different sets of black muslims now? Some continued Malcolms teachings and branched off from Elijah Muhhamonds?

Bin Waitin
10-04-2005, 08:07 PM
. . . you are correct about the Nation of Islam, they teach race separation and alot of hate.
That's not true -- they do not teach hate -- that's just your interinterpretation. I'm sorry.

one_luv
10-04-2005, 09:37 PM
Very enlightened posts.
My uncle is a muslim, as One love states, there are TWO different types of Muslims the Black Muslims and the ORTHODOX muslims. I don't put down either of them because I can tell you where I come from Oakland, CA., they've done so much for our community and I would rather see these youngsters in the NOI instead of laying in the middle of the street with a bullet in their body. I don't agree with some of the teachings of the NOI but I will not say anything negative about them because they've saved a lot of youngsters from drugs and violence.
Also I believe once Malcolm received spritual guidance from the wholly land of Mecca, he started his own chapters and was assinated, so correct if
I'm wrong but there are two different sets of black muslims now? Some continued Malcolms teachings and branched off from Elijah Muhhamonds?

QUOTE=one_luv]Your post is not all correct. I did not state that there are only 2 different types. There are over 150 sects (not sets) of Islam. Blacks can belong to any sect, and there are more than just 2. You are likely thinking of the 5 percenters, who split from the NOI, and claim to follow the teachings of Malcolm and NOI. The 5 percenters are more of a social movement (some would call it a cult) than a religion and many consider their beliefs blasphemy.

It is disturbing that so many people base their knowledge of Islam on these sects. This is not what Islam is all about.

There is not a sect called Orthodox, it an adjective used with many religions that means "traditional religious views". Orthodox is to the extreme and the two orthodox sects- sunnis and sh'iates are found in Iraq and Iran. There are million of muslims who belong to other sects, life suffism and bahaiism, that do not have the same views and teachings as the Orthodox.


At least, that is what I have found in my research, but since I am not a Muslim, others who are know more than me. It is unfortunate that there is so misinformation in the US about Islam. [/QUOTE]

dynasty2007
10-04-2005, 10:16 PM
Ok, thanks for clarity.

QUOTE=one_luv]Your post is not all correct. I did not state that there are only 2 different types. There are over 150 sects (not sets) of Islam. Blacks can belong to any sect, and there are more than just 2. You are likely thinking of the 5 percenters, who split from the NOI, and claim to follow the teachings of Malcolm and NOI. The 5 percenters are more of a social movement (some would call it a cult) than a religion and many consider their beliefs blasphemy.

It is disturbing that so many people base their knowledge of Islam on these sects. This is not what Islam is all about.

There is not a sect called Orthodox, it an adjective used with many religions that means "traditional religious views". Orthodox is to the extreme and the two orthodox sects- sunnis and sh'iates are found in Iraq and Iran. There are million of muslims who belong to other sects, life suffism and bahaiism, that do not have the same views and teachings as the Orthodox.


At least, that is what I have found in my research, but since I am not a Muslim, others who are know more than me. It is unfortunate that there is so misinformation in the US about Islam. [/quote]

msmecca
10-19-2005, 01:15 AM
My man is a 5%er in Texas also He follows the science of Islam but is very knowledgeable about all faiths especially Christian and Islam Because we were raised as Baptist-Christians and He has been following the Islamic faith for the past 10 years.(since his incarceration) We both study from Quran and Bible. He just asks me to be open and that I allow him to build with me, opening my eyes to the truth.
He says that understanding him and his beliefs are neccesary but does not say that I have to convert. We read together. I dont have any problems with his beliefs, they have good principals. But what you need to know is they strongly believe in the man being the head of the family, but so does traditional Baptist so I am used to that.

Sinphany
08-29-2007, 05:33 PM
ONLY COMMENTING...but I have heard that a lot of like rapists and child molesters try to say they are muslims in prison for the protection. Muslims are the one group that wont treat them bad, beat them up for their crime....

WHAT???:confused: ...I know this may be your comment or opinion but don't classifly a group or religion by hear say...that sh$t ain't cool!X6...I don't think Muslims tolerate anyone with a foul jacket of a rapist or child molester...you out of line for that one...especially for assmuming!X6

And to anwser the post...yeah my man has muslim traits and all & alot of the CO's use to think he was classified as one...he respects their get down & program in the prison system...but he's not a muslim

bmarleyluva
09-14-2007, 11:55 AM
Yep Soldado is Muslim...and so am I....RAMADAN MUBAREK to all who are Muslim and Observering Ramadan 2007...Is it time to eat yet?

mrschris
10-28-2007, 11:04 PM
ok i have a question. who has determined that nation of islam is not true islam? when did that come about?

and ladyanticipate, what you heard is common practice around here, however, i don't think that it applies to only sex offenders are other violent offenders...anyone needing protection who becomes muslim will be afforded it...at least for the prison stay.

hopeful64
10-29-2007, 08:31 AM
My dearheart is Sunni Muslim. I am grateful for all the responses in this thread. I am awaiting a response to his letter about me converting. I to am so grateful for Islam for my dear has truly grown thoughtout his journey however for me I am not sure right now. One of his wants is to have a Muslim wife (me) and So we shall see whats good. :grouphug:

WazirsWifey
10-29-2007, 12:19 PM
ok i have a question. who has determined that nation of islam is not true islam? when did that come about?
Unless they have orthodized in the last few years, they do not adhere to the 5 pillars of Islam. They do not say their shahada, make hajj, or say their 5 daily prayers.

I know in prison, Muslims and NOI do not worship, eat or learn together. The last two years where my habibi is, there was talk of allowing NOI to breaking fast during Ramadan with Muslims. But it didnt come to fruition.

I know there has been some movement recently and they are allowed to make hajj when they use not to.

darnellkim
11-18-2007, 07:13 PM
My husband is Muslim, I don't eat pork either, but, I respect that what he believes in, and he dosen't force his religion on me. I don't have a specific one, but, we will see what happens later. I do know this there is a GOD!

Hisbutterfly23
12-29-2007, 04:23 PM
I was raised catholic but find it just doesn't fit with my views. I have been researching Islam and am finding that it is something I want to continue to learn about.
My fiance has found himself a part of NOI now. He tried to talk to me about it during our visit. I said I would research it. Now he is black and Samoan and I am white and latina...
What threw me when visiting the NOI website and seeing some of their beliefs I am left confused.
It says very clearly they strongly prohibit interracial marriage. I also heard him use the term white devil.
I am glad he has found something that works for him I guess but I wonder where this leaves us. His fellow NOI are encouraging him to think I am the devil and he has become more suspicious I guess. He says he doesn't believe I love him but then says he is joking. I don't know.
I asked how he thinks he is going to get a pass for marrying a "white devil" and he said that since they believe men are kings and if a king marries a peasant she still becomes a queen so shall I.. and that they will accept me. WTF did he just say? That is all I can think of lately.
I have even thought about ending our relationship because of this. We have over 7 yrs invested in US but I cannot tolerate him or anyone who thinks one race is above another and sure in hell is not going to call my family white devils. What about his mixed daughter?
I wish he would find his way to "traditional" Islam that embraces all ethnicities.
Sorry this turned into a rant. I just don't know what to think right now.

katewu
02-27-2008, 05:17 AM
Muslims are universal, no one color or ethnic group, at least by teaching. NOI I know is pretty against things like interracial marriage, but not Islam. There are a lot of Muslim reverts in American that are of all colors, and all sizes and styles I might add.

The pork situation always seems to come up, maybe more in the South were the pig is king;) . There is more to the religion than giving up pork, but food is so important for family dinners and celebrations it would cut into the festivites.


I am not a Muslimah but have respect for them and like to learn about different religions.

QN2myKG
09-05-2008, 05:40 PM
My King is Muslim,
I am seeking the wisdom of Islam,
I was born and raised Cathlic, but was never able to get any of the answers that I wanted like I have till now. I will eventually become a Muslim myself. I am currently Fasting

katewu
09-08-2008, 05:01 PM
While I am not a muslimah I have studied a little about the religion and it is not a WHITE religion, a BLACK religion or a ANY race religion, Allah is God, the same god as Abraham worshipped. I think people confuse race with it because of off-shoots like Black race muslims.

There is no requirement to abstain from white women only fornication and pork and of course alcohol. I know them don't even use perfume or vanilla for baking with alcohol in it.


I am Christian but have seen some similarities with my religion as belief in One God ( Jesus was son and prophet) and a high regard for marriage.

jeswannabhiswyf
09-08-2008, 05:26 PM
Hi. Yes my fiance is an American Muslim. I, however, am not Muslimah and I do not plan to be. I am Christian. He and I met in a pentecostal church. He has been Muslim for 15 years now though. His mom is even a minister. Go figure. In the beginning we faced a few problems because when he told me he was Muslim, having know him from childhood I'm thinking "yeah right, just a phase". The issues we have usually (of course) are religious. As long as we don't try to debate Christianity vs. Islam, we have no problems. We have come to an agreement that he is Muslim and I am Christian. I will admit, things will get tougher because right now we have no kids but we plan to have some when he comes home. In Islam, children follow their father's religion. He did ask me to wear a hijab (khimar- a head wrap, not the face) but I told him no because that would be portraying something I am not. I have given up pork. You do not have to be Muslim/Muslimah to do that. I don't even eat veggies cooked with pork. I used smoked turkey. He also likes me to be covered up so I had to donate 3 Garbage bags full of clothes. Some of the blouses were low cut, some things a little too revealing, etc. Had he not been Muslim, out of respect for now having a husband, I would have donated that stuff anyway.

In closing, I say do what you know you can do. Don't become Muslimah for his sake then be miserable later because ur thinking about eternal damnation. Stand firm in what you believe. I am here for any questions you may have though.

Miss Superwoman
09-08-2008, 05:41 PM
Yes my sweetie is Muslim he has been for about 14 years.

Miss Superwoman
09-08-2008, 05:43 PM
I am also Muslim I convert to Islam in 2001 but it nothing to do with me. I love being Muslim and I cover and wearing hijab is not as hard for me as other aspects it is a everyday way of life.

Miss Superwoman
09-08-2008, 05:46 PM
I cannot answer any questions about NOI but I do know about Al-Islam

jeswannabhiswyf
09-08-2008, 06:44 PM
I have a question and please forgive me if it is really stupid or neive because I honestly do not know the answer. If you are Muslim is it tru that you cannot eat pork and you aren't allowd to date or even marry white people? I heard that and then when I was visiting I saw this man that is Muslim adn he had just married a white woman and he was eating a pork rib sandwhich. I was just curious.

Your question isn't stupid. To answer that question you need to know what set of muslims u r dealing with. There are white muslims so this statement cannot be true. In Islam the Prophet did not eat pork and it is spoken about in both the Qur'an and the Bible. However, in the New Testament it was said that we can eat anything as long as we bless it first...in so many words. Now in Islam, if a man and his family were starving and they had nothing to eat, it is then permissable to eat pork if that is all they r offered. Otherwise, they are not to eat pork.

Miss Superwoman
09-09-2008, 02:29 PM
I have a question and please forgive me if it is really stupid or neive because I honestly do not know the answer. If you are Muslim is it tru that you cannot eat pork and you aren't allowd to date or even marry white people? I heard that and then when I was visiting I saw this man that is Muslim adn he had just married a white woman and he was eating a pork rib sandwhich. I was just curious.

Eating pork is haraam because Allah has made it prohibted. As for marry a white person there is nothing in Islam that says we cannot marry people of other ethnic backgrounds.In the eyes of Allah we are the same.

Miss Superwoman
09-09-2008, 02:34 PM
My Husband Is A Muslim I Guess He Has An Open Mind For All. He Talks About It Ever So Often Even Has A Muslin Name In Prison He Goes By He Doesn't Eat Pork I Do I Read Somethings About Muslims Something About They Can Beat Thier Womens They Are Beneath Them All Kind Of Crazy Stuff. I Don't Agree And He Doesn't Force Me Too...

We are equal but yes men have been more physical strength then women in order to defend and protect the home and to provide for his family.As far as Muslim men beating their women that is not condoned by Islam and there is no complusion in any religion so if it is not in your heart to become Muslim then don't but if anyone husband treats them wrongly and they say they are Muslim the ill treatment is not a condition of Islam and is not something a Muslim man is prescribed to do.

QN2myKG
09-11-2008, 06:02 PM
well said,
superwomen, katewa and jeswanna,
its a way of life not a black or white thang a pork thang nor do it because some one ask u or forced u to convert, my King converted 10 years ago I have not yet converted, because I am still seeking the wisdom and knowledge Islam is beautiful, It is the way of Life,

blkbetty08
09-11-2008, 06:10 PM
He's not But i am , i have been one since was born he messes with me sometimes like when i came to visit last Saturday when i was fasting he told me to break it so he could get a kiss in th mouth! lol:blush:

UMMGHAZI
09-17-2008, 11:26 PM
:) SOMETIMES MY INTENEDED IS TREATED BA SOMETIMES THEY ARE EXTRA NICE HE TOLD ME LAST VISIT THAT HE FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE IN SURAH 18 THE CAVE DWELLERS

UMMGHAZI
09-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Lol Sister If You Are Muslim Not Supposed To Eat Pork And Allah Doesnt Care What Race You Are My Best Friend Is Muslim And She Is White As A Napkin Lol I Love Her To Death And Get This Rapists And Child Molestors Get It Whether They Are Muslim Or Not Trust My Hubby Did 3 Months In The Whole For Getting At A Rapist We Do Believe Rape Is One Of The Worst Crimes We Cover Ourselves And Children To Keep Down Molestation

jeswannabhiswyf
09-24-2008, 12:25 AM
As far as Muslim men beating their women that is not condoned by Islam and there is no complusion in any religion...
Muslims are permitted to give their wives a mild beating. So says the Qur'an. You may not like the way it sounds or is interpreted but the Qur'an says that. Now according to the Muslim books i've read they explain that the husband is not to leave a bruise and is only to do this in extreme circumstances. As for me and my household, homie don't play that! L would never hit me AT ALL. We r staight on that. Keep reading. Be sure it is what your heart believes. You are accountable for your own soul.

UMMGHAZI
12-12-2008, 12:36 PM
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Abuse
According to Quran and Sunnah


:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:

The Prophet said: "Allah does not punish the individuals for the sins of the community until they see the evil spreading among themselves, and while they have the power to stop it, do not do so." (Ahmad)

Allah, swt, commands the believers to "Enjoin the good and forbid the evil." (see Qur'an 3/104, 3/110, 9/71)

UMMGHAZI
12-12-2008, 12:38 PM
Abuse
According to Quran and Sunnah

The Prophet, (saaws - peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Abusing a Muslim is a sin, and killing him is disbelief." (Bukhari and Muslim)

"The Prophet never beat any of his wives or servants; in fact, he did not strike any living being with his hand except in the cause of Allah or when the prohibitions of Allah had been violated, and he retaliated on behalf of Allah." (An-Nasaa'i)

UMMGHAZI
12-12-2008, 12:40 PM
Muslims are permitted to give their wives a mild beating. So says the Qur'an. You may not like the way it sounds or is interpreted but the Qur'an says that. Now according to the Muslim books i've read they explain that the husband is not to leave a bruise and is only to do this in extreme circumstances. As for me and my household, homie don't play that! L would never hit me AT ALL. We r staight on that. Keep reading. Be sure it is what your heart believes. You are accountable for your own soul.

The Prophet said: "When the people see a cruel person is committing aggression, and do not prevent him, it is likely that Allah would afflect them with His chastisement." (Abu Dawud, Tirmithi, An-Nisaa'i)

marcsbeth
12-12-2008, 12:50 PM
marc was a muslim but he converted to christianity. he still refuses to eat pork, though. on work release visits he wouldn't even eat a bacon cheese burger from burger king!!!! i tell him that's ok, though. when he gets out, on nights we have ham or pork chops i'll just cook him something else!!!

goldenglove
12-12-2008, 03:50 PM
My Hunny is Muslim, I am not. But we have a wonderful spiritual connection and both believe in one God. I have a problem with religions using people, saints etc as intervention between self and God. Nobody and nothing can come between you and God. You should have your own relationship with Him and not need intervention.
I have also learned how beautiful Islam is and what a peaceful and deeply spiritual faith it is.
I've chosen to give up pork, about a year and a half ago.
Do I see myself converting? No. But I have a deep respect for the faith.