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FriscoLady
08-30-2005, 07:19 PM
Rigged courts, bribed judges, phony trials, extortion by lawyers, and
over 2 million prisoners in the USA gulag

by Les Sachs

August 30, 2005
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The recent pattern of American violations of international law are
ultimately based in the corruption of the USA domestic legal system.
Phony USA courts are very dangerous even for travellers and visitors
to America, who can easily wind up among the USA's more than 2
million prisoners, or lose all their family's possessions to corrupt
American lawyers.

All world citizens should know how the corrupt USA legal system, is a
danger to every traveller, visitor, and guest worker from overseas,
and to every individual who takes the risky step of entering upon
American territory. Just ask the overseas families of prisoners who
were put to death inside the USA, with their embassies never even
being informed that they were arrested - or the many foreign people
serving hugely long prison terms in America, after they were jailed
on flimsy tainted "evidence" from criminal snitches.

The reality is that the United States of America, which proclaims
itself the "land of freedom", has the most dishonest, dangerous and
crooked legal system of any developed nation. Legal corruption is
covering America like a blanket.

The corruption of the USA legal system is well-known, but also well-
hidden, by the news services of America's corporate-owned media. The
US media companies are afraid both of reprisal, and of the social
revolution that would come from exposing the truth. Here is what the
US media companies know, but are afraid to tell you about American
"justice".

Concentration camps with concrete walls

America has the largest prison gulag in the entire world - yes, right
there in the USA, the self-proclaimed "land of freedom". The starting
point for understanding anything about the USA, is to digest the fact
that just this one country, the United States of America, has twenty-
five percent of ALL of the prisoners in the entire world.

More than 2 million prisoners - more than 1 out of every 150 people
in America - are behind bars in the American gulag. This is now the
world's biggest system of what are effectively concentration camps,
though most of these prisoners are behind masonry walls and inside
prison buildings.

For minorities, the statistics are even more brutal. For example, the
USA is now imprisoning about 1 out of every 36 people in its black
population. American "justice" is especially focused on jailing young
black males.

Quite amazingly, Americans and the American government, continually
criticize the legal systems and so-called "political" legal
proceedings in other countries such as China, Russia, and even
Belgium among many other places. Yet, for example, the proportion of
prisoners is 30 times higher in the USA than in China, even though
China is a country regularly criticized and denounced by the USA
government.

No one imprisons people as readily, or casually, as does America. As
you learn more about America's horrifying legal system, you find out
how easily and carelessly America arrests people, and tosses innocent
people into prison. It is estimated that America has at least 100,000
completely innocent people in jail, but the statistics of innocence
may well run far higher. The number of people known to be innocent,
and yet who were actually sentenced to death in recent years in
America, is already running into the hundreds.

Of America's more than 2 million prisoners, about 50,000 are known to
be foreign citizens. This proportion might seem small, but remember
that 50,000 prisoners is more than the entire prison population of
many other countries. It only appears as a small percentage, because
of America's obsession with jailing its own people, who have had more
time to get caught in America's web of legal horror.

The USA is extremely casual about the jailing of foreigners, and not
honouring their rights under international law or treaties and
agreements. Often, foreign citizens have been sentenced to death,
while the USA didn't even bother to notify the foreign government
that their citizens were arrested.

Several other governments are working hard just to try and obtain
even the most primitive judicial rights for their own nationals, who
have been seized and held in abusive conditions by the USA empire.
And yet, the United States of America somehow still brags about its
own legal system, while criticizing other countries.

Understanding that America has such a huge percentage of even its own
people in prison, is to start to understand the subconscious fear
behind much of American life.

Before you set foot in America, you should have a clear picture of
the terror of America's legal system - the judges and lawyers and
money and bribery, that have made this system of fear so pervasive.
There is not yet enough public media information about America's
domestic legal horrors, horrors which have been rapidly increasing.
And the American public, even the victims of its legal system, have a
hard time realizing why it is so hard to fight legal corruption there.

The situation is so bad, that a social explosion is beginning inside
America. You can read some news stories - about people murdering
judges, or attacking the families of judges, or people setting fire
to courthouses in the USA - and see the pattern that is emerging,
even though the news media are afraid to connect the dots and suggest
what might be behind all these events. America is trying to maintain
its myths about its legal system, even while the desperate reality of
life inside the USA is starting to blow back into escalating social
upheaval.


USA torture and illegal jailing overseas, starts with USA domestic
torture and illegal jailing at home

The world press has documented clear violations of human and legal
rights by America in its overseas jails, such as the infamous
situations in Guantanamo and occupied Iraq and Afghanistan, and the
even more secret network of prisons in places like Diego Garcia or on
board American ships.

But the problem is much bigger, than America's legal abuses under its
military invasions and "war on terrorism". These USA violations of
international law, are consistent with the corruption in America's
home legal system within its own borders, and have partly evolved
from America's legal abuses against its own citizens and residents.

American prisons are often horrible, with lots of torment of
prisoners, like you would expect in some petty dictatorship.
Conditions are brutal in USA jails; rape and beatings are common, and
there is little help for abused inmates. In addition to the many
official USA executions, numerous people are also illegally killed in
jail cells, "mysteriously" said to have hanged themselves or "found
stabbed to death".

Scandals of overseas prison abuse, as in the USA-run Abu Ghraib
prison in Iraq, have arisen from sources much deeper than America's
foreign policy. These scandals are in part replications of inmate
abuse inside of America's domestic prison gulag. Without diminishing
the brutality of the crimes committed by Americans in Iraqi prisons,
it is also true that such crimes are consistent with the brutality of
prisons inside America.

In the regular functioning of the USA courts, America's domestic
lawyers and judges, threaten people with illegal jailing, and rape,
torture and murder in jail, just like the threats used by Americans
against Iraqi subjects of the American occupation. America will play
the song about "just a few bad apples in the barrel" whenever an
abuse scandal gets exposed, either domestically or abroad, but the
cover-up of such abuse is more the routine response.

Theoretically, torture and abuse is totally outlawed by America's
Constitution, but some of the nice words in America's Constitution
hold little power anymore, despite how often people quote them. The
Americans who still believe the Constitution protects them, are
mostly those people who haven't yet dealt with the judges and lawyers
of America's corrupt legal system.

America's Constitution and Bill of Rights are nearly dead, not just
because the judges will no longer enforce them, but even more because
America's lawyers will not even fight for them. The two American
"political parties" are not fighting for them, either, and America's
news media are also very passive. If you look at America in depth,
you can see there has been a widespread moral collapse in America's
legal and political structures. This means that America's legal
system has become largely a tool of government terror, and of bribery
for the rich and the powerful. The average person is just fodder for
the meat-grinder of America's courts.

America's lies and sleazy arguments to make excuses for torture, or
to deny people the rights of the Geneva convention, or holding people
for many years without charges, are also just an extension of the
deviousness in America's domestic legal system. Inside America,
neither its laws nor its Constitution nor the facts nor evidence nor
anything else, no longer have real authority inside the American courts.

All that's left is what American lawyers and judges call "the game".
As part of playing this game, USA lawyers and judges just twist words
around, in order to produce any excuse, however flimsy, to achieve
their objective, whether that be to jail an innocent person, or give
the verdict that was sought by the big company that paid the big
bribe through its law firm.

It is an endlessly devious manipulation of words and phrases to get
the desired result, just devious falsehood and lies backed by the
naked power of the judges. The only "real" part is the power that the
judges and lawyers hold in America, to jail you and take away your
property. The words of the law don't protect you in the USA, because
American judges and lawyers have no scruples about bending them to
mean the opposite of what they say.


America's lawyers are controlled by the judges, and don't really work
for you - that's why they sell you out to the government, or to the
big companies that pay bribes

There's some very special aspects about the way American lawyers are
controlled by American judges, which is central to why America's
legal corruption is so much worse than any other advanced nation.
Even if you are paying an American lawyer huge amounts of money, he
or she doesn't really work for you, and in fact may sell you down the
river to the jailhouse.

American lawyers are directly under the thumb of the judges and the
government, and must submit to the culture of bribery and perversion
of justice, or else face terrifying revenge. Lawyers, just like you,
can be instantly jailed by an American judge on flimsy pretexts, and
American lawyers can be quickly stripped of their right to practice
law, and personally and financially destroyed, if they dare to
criticize legal corruption. Lawyers who try to fight the system can
find themselves not only dis-barred, but also criminally charged and
jailed, and no other lawyer will help them. It is a horribly crooked
system in America.

This is different from other advanced countries, where lawyers are
usually a professional guild, whose status and right to practice law,
is under the control of only their fellow lawyers. This means that,
in other countries, the judges and the government cannot easily ruin
or attack the lawyers for purely political reasons. This is also part
of why, in other developed countries, outside of America, you really
do see brave lawyers fighting for un-popular clients, or challenging
the government, and asking for justice.

But in America, it's different. Over the past century, the American
lawyers lost the right to regulate themselves, and instead fell under
the power of the judges. So American lawyers are afraid to do things
in court, that the judges don't want them to do. America's army of
nearly 1 million lawyers, is almost totally under the control of a
few thousand judges, with their entrenched culture of bribery and
fraud and miscarriage of justice.

Some USA lawyers don't like this, but they are helpless and can't
fight it. Most lawyers in America have, to one degree or another,
signed up with the devil, to do things the way the devil wants them
done.

That means that any time you hire an American lawyer, he already is
in a conflict of interest. He has to make the judge happy first. And
if the judge wants to make the government happy, or make somebody
else happy who is paying a big bribe, then guess what? You are
destroyed. It doesn't matter what you paid the lawyer. He works for
the judge, first and foremost.

So a totally unique factor in USA legal corruption is the amazingly
dishonest profession of American lawyers, these lawyers who "play the
game" with America’s judges and politicians and police. It is a
savage culture of legal fraud, where lawyers work with judges to rob
and terrify people, especially minorities, but also foreigners, and
above all those who dare to question the system.

People accused of serious crimes have the "right" to a lawyer, but
this may mean only a crooked lawyer who is stage-managing the victim
to help the government and prosecutors. If the lawyer does not help
the government, he can be put out of work and not "assigned" to any
more cases, or treated badly the next time he is in a courtroom. This
legal fraud is the core of the danger to those who visit America. A
lawyer who is "representing" you in the USA, whether the government
is paying him, or even if you are paying him yourself, may just be a
stooge who is helping the prosecutors to put you in jail, even though
you are innocent.

The judges of America gave every accused criminal the "right" to a
lawyer, not because they cared about the rights of the accused, but
because it helps stage-manage the victim, with a lawyer who has to do
things the judge's way. In America, such government-appointed lawyers
are the means by which hundreds of thousands of poor people are
railroaded into prison. Some of these people were just foreign
tourists, in the wrong place at the wrong time, and wound up rotting
in an American prison.

Some lawyers are fairly subtle about it, and their victims never
realize the lawyer has sold them out to the judge and the government.
Most American court cases never go to trial, never see a jury; it is
the job of the victim's lawyer to "sell the deal" that the judge has
decided will happen, or else. This is how people accept a "plea
bargain" so they accept going to jail for 3 years even though they
are innocent, instead of going to trial before a jury.

Because of the corruption of lawyers under the thumb of the judges,
there's a very fake and phony aspect of court proceedings in America.
They are really fake "show trials" in many cases, sometimes very
obviously so, where both purported "sides" of lawyers are actually
working together for the government, or for the big corporation or
rich person that is bribing the judge.

You will also find, in the American legal system, that you
essentially have no recourse whatsoever against wrongdoing by your
own lawyer. A lawyer can sell you out, betray you, steal your money,
engage in malpractice, help out the other side, hide the evidence
that proved you were right, or commit felony crime against you, and
there is nothing you can do about it, so long as the lawyer made the
judge happy, and the judge got his cut of any money the lawyer stole
from you.


Innocent and being arrested - they don't like to admit a mistake in
America

Yes, lots of people live their whole lives in America and never get
arrested. And yet, some poor foreign visitor comes to America for a
short holiday, gets arrested by mistake, and gets sentenced to death
by lethal injection even though he is totally innocent. Well, that's
the lottery of life for those who visit or live in America.

The police and prosecutors in America have no concern at all whether
they have arrested someone who is innocent. They just don't care.
When a crime is committed, they try to arrest somebody, anybody, just
to say they got the bad guy. And they never like to admit they made a
mistake. Once they arrest you, they will try to make up and plant
false evidence, to help try and convict you. A common trick is to
take other criminals they know, who are facing jail on other charges,
and get those criminals to be false witnesses against you. The cops
justify this kind of thing by saying to themselves, "Well, if you
didn't commit this crime, you probably committed some other crime we
don't know about."

If they do arrest you in America, they like to pile on all sorts of
criminal charges. The idea is to charge you with 10 crimes, because
it makes you sound bad, and maybe convict you on 3 of them or you
will accept a plea bargain on 1 or 2 of them. Any kind of guilty
plea, and they call it a success, even though you were totally innocent.

For the police and prosecutors, it's all a kind of sporting game, so
they can bring about their "high conviction rate". Perhaps part of
the reason America has so much crime, even with more than 2 million
people in prison, is because the people who actually committed the
crimes were never arrested. Also, some poor people may feel that the
odds are high they will be arrested someday anyway, so they may as
well be criminals and enjoy life in the meantime.

The system is extremely racist, of course, and white people are
arrested less than many minorities. But no one is safe. Any innocent
person can get railroaded to death in America.


Multi-millionaires and big corporations, vs. everybody else

The only people who really can get expect some fairness in American
courts are multi-millionaires and big corporations. Nobody else
really matters to American judges and lawyers.

There is a huge amount of bribery in America, perhaps even more than
in the courts of any other country in the world. Even some American
ex-judges have admitted the near-universality of bribery there.
Nearly all bribes are given to the judges by lawyers; this is
considered the safe way to bribe a judge. Bribery is rarely spoken
about, just understood. Rich people pay huge amounts of money to law
firms with connections, the lawyers walk around with a certain amount
of cash in their jacket, and they pass it to the judges in their
quiet moments together. It is mostly all cash of course. Sometimes
the bribery is blatantly obvious, because of the other crimes that
lawyers and judges commit in broad daylight together. In the
courtrooms you can see the judges being extremely friendly to their
rich lawyer friends who pay big bribes.

As an average person, there's no real way to out-bribe a big
corporation, regardless of what your lawyer promised you. That's why
the big companies win so often.

American judges are very devious, and use all sorts of techniques to
prevent a victim from getting justice. Lots of judges issue gag
orders, and bans on freedom of speech, to help prevent other people
from finding out what is going on. Judges set up a trial in all sorts
of ways, giving orders that all sorts of evidence be hidden from a
jury, for example. The judge may declare, for example, that the
evidence that proves you are innocent or right, will not be allowed
at the trial.

Jury trials are actually very rare in America, unlike what you see in
the movies. Most cases are settled through some deal or extortion or
intimidation, before there is an actual trial. If there is a jury
trial, they tend to stack the jury with un-educated idiots who will
tend to believe whatever lies they are told by the judge and the
government. If you are trying to fight a rich person in court, the
judge might let the fancy lawyers for the rich person say anything
they want, while he tells you to shut up as soon as you start
talking. The judges have a thousand ways to rig a legal proceeding,
to benefit rich people or the government.

It's no wonder so many innocent people go to prison. With the
fundamental brutality and harshness of life in America, American
citizens are confused and fearful, and gullible to propaganda. So, a
jury in a courtroom, these people who tend to be poorly educated,
will tend to go along with any lies presented by government
prosecutors. In this environment of fear, the feeling of safety for
the jury, comes from following the "strong" government in sending
various "suspected criminals" to jail.

Yes, there are appeals courts, but these are just more judges, who
are often friends with the lower court judge who originally sold you
out. The appeals judges tend to go along with the lower court judge,
unless you have suddenly acquired some politically powerful backing
on your side.

Americans love to talk about "taking it all the way to the Supreme
Court!", but this is a nearly empty hope. The U.S. Supreme Court
simply refuses to consider most cases that are presented to it.

If you are a little helpless nobody, the appeals judges often barely
reply to you, and sometimes don't reply at all. Sometimes people have
been strapped to a table and given the lethal poison and put to death
in America, with the victim's appeal never even answered by the judges.


What about when people win millions of dollars in a lawsuit against
the big company?

Every now and then, there is worldwide news of how some average
person in America has won a lawsuit for $25 million or some other
huge sum of money, from some company or other. What's going on here -
if the American legal system is so crooked, how can people be winning
such big money?

Such cases are indeed real, but they are actually somewhat rare,
numerically - rather like winning the lottery - and it's important to
see why they take place, and how they fit into the big pattern. Such
cases are typically after someone has been seriously injured or died
due to some defective product or prescription drug or hospital
treatment or accident.

These cases have a certain "place" in the American legal framework,
accepted by the judges. They are also very important for maintaining
the bribery culture. A lot of the money won in such cases goes into
the lawyer's pockets, and is a major source of bribery money for the
judges. As regards big companies and the judges, such cases are
viewed as a kind of "tax" on the big corporations, part of the cost
of doing business in America, part of the price of being able to
otherwise make huge profits.

Such cases, as well, have the same function as in a gambling casino,
when the casino proudly announces that one customer has just won a
huge jackpot. The hype about the one jackpot winner, hides the fact
that most everyone else is losing money. The person whose husband
died from the defective prescription drug, and won millions of
dollars (one-third of that to the lawyer, of course), is the person
who is shoved forward to prove that "the legal system works - it's
the greatest legal system in the world!"

The small handful of such personal-injury cases, are intended to
distract the public from all the innocent people sentenced to prison,
from all the families destroyed by bribed judges in divorce cases,
and from all the people whose lives are destroyed by big companies,
companies who cheerfully pay bribes to win their routine cases in court.

Big companies know that some big "injury" cases will be lost, in
order to supply money for the lawyers and judges who otherwise take
good care of the big company's interests. When you are making
hundreds of millions of dollars, the loss of a few million here and
there is just another expense of business. In the end, the companies
just raise their prices to cover the costs of lawyers and lawsuits.
The whole world pays for the millions earned by American lawyers,
they are the ultimate parasites.

There are other casualties here, too. America's health care system
has been destroyed from the inside by the legal culture of constant
lawsuits against doctors and hospitals, with huge amounts of money
being given to the lawyers in these cases, driving up the cost of
medical care and putting it out of reach of many people. America is
the only economically advanced nation without a national health plan,
with tens of millions of Americans having no health coverage. USA
lawyers joke openly about how, when the courts make big money awards
to pay a lawyer, the lawyer often gives the judge a bribe by way of
gratitude. Some lawyers grow rich, and doctors are afraid to continue
practicing medicine in the US, and many Americans die from lack of
health care.

But while America's lawyers will very casually file legal charges
against doctors, hospitals, or ordinary people, for any flimsy
reason, to try and squeeze some money from the situation, they are
extremely afraid to take any legal action against another lawyer or
judge engaged in misconduct. That's where fear takes over, and
lawyers are suddenly too timid to file any lawsuits.


The Hollywood image, versus the grim reality

Once you have digested the fact that America has the world's largest
prison gulag, another major thing to digest is the USA government,
and much of America, is primarily a sales organization, whose chief
tool is hype and propaganda and outright lies. America is a culture
built on sales and advertising; it focuses on portraying an image,
not the reality beneath it.

This is why America was so casual about inventing and selling the
lies about "weapons of mass destruction" to help start the Iraq
invasion. It was just a question of whatever lies needed to be told,
in order to sell the product; there was no concern about afterwards,
when the lies were exposed. America just figures it can later send
out more salespeople with more lies, in an endless cycle. Tomorrow is
just another day, when America will try to sell another product, the
"war on terror", the "spread of freedom", or whatever.

The selling never stops, in Washington or Hollywood. America sells
political lies like Hollywood sells movies. When the USA President
talks about "advancing the cause of freedom", he basically means
freedom for big corporations to do business. He's not really talking
about actual personal freedom for real people. But he grins when he
talks about "freedom" because it's a good word of salesmanship,
people hear him and some of them can be duped into believing that
America cares about personal or political freedom.

Hollywood movies and American television are a major element of
political myth-making. Around the world, people derive an image of
America, and its legal system, from these fictional creations on
film. America's propaganda about having "the greatest legal system in
the world" is one of those phony stories that Hollywood is helping to
sell.

It is also a myth sustained by the few trials about which there is a
lot of publicity, like with the celebrity trials of Martha Stewart or
Michael Jackson. Judges behave very differently when the cameras are
rolling, or the media is reporting everything that goes on, and
millions of dollars are being spent on lawyers. But in the 98 percent
of court activity that does not have big media coverage, the judges
of America provide a bizarre sideshow of horror.

In the Hollywood version, the judges in American courts are like kind
uncles, smiling and being wise and calmly dispensing justice. But in
reality, American judges sometimes scream at people like disturbed
perverts, and show off their bribed corruption right there in the
courtroom. Sometimes judges engage in flagrant extortion, where you
have to agree to pay money to the judge's lawyer friends as the price
to stay out of jail. It is really that bad. You can find no end of
documented horror about American judges behaving like criminal
lunatics, and it is getting worse all the time.

In the Hollywood version, there are brave lawyers who will fight for
your rights, to win justice for you in the American courts. In
reality, you can't find an American lawyer brave enough to fight
judicial corruption, even if you are innocent and the judge's friends
have threatened to murder you, or to send you to jail for the rest of
your life. The lawyers who used to be brave, were destroyed or
intimidated, and nearly all American lawyers now submit themselves to
the culture of corruption and bribery, and betraying and abandoning
the people who need legal help.

In the sad reality, American lawyers line up by the dozen to help the
government or the big corporations, and regularly betray the average
person, even if they are supposedly representing you. Even the
lawyers who don't want to be wicked themselves, are too timid to
really fight the system. At a certain point, nearly all American
lawyers will hold back and abandon their clients, because they are
trying to survive themselves and avoid revenge by the judges.

In the Hollywood version, the average person is also helped by the
"brave investigative reporter" at some newspaper or television
station, who shows great courage in exposing the truth, and bringing
powerful wrongdoing to face justice. However, the brave
"investigative reporter" in America is now as fictional and non-
existent as the "brave lawyer" who will fight for your rights. This
is especially true on any topic pertaining to corruption by judges
and lawyers.

In America today, reporters are little timid people who are afraid of
getting fired, and who almost never write a story on government
corruption, unless some other part of the government is officially
investigating or prosecuting. That goes triple when judges or lawyers
are involved. The owners of the newspapers and television stations
are afraid of revenge by the judges if they have to go to court, and
the nervous little reporters who work for them understand the rules
of the game.

If you look closely at a modern newspaper or news magazine in the
USA, you will see how almost all stories originate with the
government itself. When the media "investigates", they are usually
just adding more details on a situation already being targeted by the
government. Every news media and television station in America is
swamped with people begging them to report on stories, that they
totally refuse to cover. The reporters are too scared, and they know
the stories wouldn't get printed or broadcast even if they were written.

America is the land of fear, as regards the legal system and the
culture of corruption. Everyone involved with the USA legal system is
afraid, very afraid, of stepping on the wrong toes. Even American
judges themselves get driven out of office, if they don't participate
in the bribery culture.


No recourse against crime and fraud by judges and lawyers in America

In reality, there is almost nothing you can do against misconduct,
and even open felony crime, committed against you by American judges
and lawyers. All of the official complaint procedures you find on the
internet, or at the courthouse or in the law books, turn out to be a
joke, a farce and a fraud.

Complaints about lawyers in America, usually go to the "Bar", which
is itself run by the judges who are involved in bribery with the
lawyers. And complaints about judges go to other judges, their friends.

Nearly all the complaints about lawyers and judges - tens of
thousands of them - are kept secret. Nearly all are dismissed or
ignored. They are generally only used if the judges or politicians
want to specially destroy someone - some radical minority lawyer,
someone who is not playing the bribery game, somebody who has dared
to expose wrongdoing. Otherwise, even criminal acts by lawyers and
judges get a smiling cover-up.

You will almost certainly not find any lawyers to help you sue
another lawyer for wrongdoing. They are too scared of revenge by the
judges. Even the lawyers who are broke and unemployed and desperate
for work, are too scared to sue another lawyer. (Special caution:
Lawyers may make false promises to you about suing another lawyer,
cash your checks and steal your money, and then refuse to help you.
And then you will have another lawyer who wronged you.)

The police and FBI almost certainly will not help you, either. They
all know the bribery game, and they rely on the same crooked judges
to help send innocent people to prison after they have been arrested.
The more crooked the judge, the more eager the judge will be, to help
the police or FBI do a dirty deal and convict an innocent person.

And, of course, the newspapers and television and media won't help
you. They hear stories like yours all the time. If they publish or
broadcast your story, then they will have problems the next time they
get sued in court. Or they might find themselves arrested on false
charges, and end up in an even worse situation than you.

The newspapers are so tied into the establishment of judges and
lawyers, that the newspapers sometimes help the judges and lawyers to
commit their crimes, and to unfairly smear and attack their victims.
The big media newspapers have even helped to plant false "evidence"
in court cases, and help the legal establishment to destroy innocent
people. But even if not harming you, the USA media is afraid to help
you, afraid of revenge if they expose judicial corruption.

These fears are just as big, if not bigger, with America's radical
and alternative media, and bloggers and internet sites. Such people
will criticize American foreign policy and so on, but everybody is
scared of talking about specific cases of corruption by lawyers and
judges. The independent media has even more reason to be afraid,
because they are even more vulnerable if the lawyers start to file
false charges against them in the courts.

Of course, America's politicians will not help you, either. Many
politicians are themselves lawyers, very used to the whole game of
bribery with judges and other lawyers. The politicians accept the
crooked courts as the way that America is run, and as helping the two
big parties to monopolize the political scene and prevent alternative
political movements.

America's two big political parties, the Democrats and Republicans,
can be seen as another phony game like America's courts. The two
parties actually get their hundreds of millions of dollars in money
from the same people at the same big corporations who own the rest of
America. These two American parties pretend to argue with each other
over emotional issues like gun control and abortion rights, but in
the end both of these parties serve the big corporations. Half of
Americans are still fooled into thinking that these parties represent
them, the other half sense it is phony but feel helpless and don't
know what to do. This is why people don't vote very much in America;
they feel it is hopeless and useless.

You can also forget about America's human rights and civil liberties
groups, even though it looks, at first, like there are many such
groups on the internet. Many such groups are just money-raising
groups which don't help victims, or are tied to the two main
political parties or some narrow agenda. They are all scared of the
legal system, too, and there is no one with any significant funding
or money, who is out there helping the victims of legal corruption.
They can't find lawyers to help them, either. There are some
overwhelmed and struggling projects here and there, doing worthy work
for a few of the innocent people in prison, but they function in an
environment of timidity and fear, and without the resources or clout
or media access to expose or change what is happening.

It's getting worse and worse in America all the time. As the judges
and lawyers can get away with committing crimes, they are getting
more open and blatant, committing felony crimes in broad daylight,
because they know no one will stop them or bring them to account.

It is also important to know, that once you have started complaining
about, or exposing, judicial and legal corruption in America, you
become a kind of outlaw there. You are in a very dangerous situation,
and you are considered fair game to be either arrested and jailed on
false charges, or to be totally robbed and betrayed by America's
lawyers. Once you have spoken out about legal corruption, you may
find that no other lawyer will then help you for any reason, even if
it is un-related to your complaint about judicial wrongdoing. You may
be trapped in a nightmare from which there is no escape unless you
can leave America altogether.


Dealing with American lawyers, if you have no other choice

Perhaps the statistical chance of getting arrested in America as an
innocent person, and then being sent to prison or put to death, is
relatively small. But think of how you will feel if you end up as one
of those 2 million American prisoners, including 50,000 foreign
citizens. Or perhaps even one of those several thousand people on
Death Row, waiting for the lethal poison to be injected into your arm.

Visiting America now, is probably similar to visiting or doing
business in 1936 with Hitler's Reich, or Mussolini's fascist empire.
If you did such a thing in 1936, you might have visited and had a
wonderful time, maybe even have done some business with companies in
those countries. You might have seen some beautiful sights, and met
some very friendly individual people, perhaps drunk a beer or two, or
a nice glass of wine, maybe attended the 1936 Olympics. Very likely,
you wouldn't have seen any concentration camps, in the places where
you travelled. You might have had a very pleasant trip.

But nonetheless, you were in a dangerous place, where horrible things
were going on. That's true of the United States of America today, the
land of 2 million prisoners in a giant gulag.

With America's corrupt legal system, it's certainly not the wisest
place to keep money or assets, which can be easily grabbed by
American lawyers in legal proceedings. Many smart Americans have
opened overseas bank accounts, and it is wise to not keep too much
money where American lawyers can seize it. There is no bigger group
of thieves in the world, than American lawyers.

If you are in a lawsuit situation in America, get all your money out
of the country, fast, before the USA lawyers can put any kind of hold
or freeze on it. But you shouldn't keep substantial assets in the USA
in the first place. Sell any USA real estate and rent instead, get
that money out where it is safe.

Certainly, don't ever expect any justice from American courts. Expect
the judges and both sides of lawyers to tilt toward the government,
or toward the big company that can pay bribes on a regular basis. All
that most people get out of American courts, is grief, and lawyers
stealing their money. Best not to approach American courts unless
absolutely necessary.

Despite the commonplace fraud and dishonesty of American lawyers,
it's still important to have one if you must be in an American court.
The reason is that American judges absolutely hate people who come to
court without lawyers, especially if they have any money at all. The
judge takes it as a personal insult if you are not giving some money
to one of his lawyer friends, and will tend to take revenge on you
unless you hire a lawyer, even a very stupid one, to stand by your side.

What American lawyers love to do, is to steal all your money, tell
you a bunch of false promises and lies, and then do nothing for you,
while they sell you out to the other side. That is a perfect scenario
for an American lawyer. A lawyer's goal is to squeeze as much money
from you, while at the same time doing as little as possible to rock
the judge's political boat. Some lawyers even make money by the
"research and review" scam, where they don't even agree to represent
you, but just steal your money to "research" your case.

Accept in advance that an American lawyer will rob you and betray
you, and everything will go more smoothly if you quietly understand
this. Never actually trust an American lawyer, but don't let on that
you know he's a crook.

Don't tell the lawyer how much money you really have, he will try to
get all of it. Try to pay a lawyer very slowly, in small chunks, that
will keep him more interested, and prevent some of the bigger
robberies and betrayals, and will leave you some money to try another
lawyer if things get too awful.

Remember, once you give a USA lawyer any money, it's almost
impossible to get it back. Lawyers will almost never sue another
lawyer, and if you go to court, the judge will almost certainly
protect the lawyer who defrauded you (and get a share of the money,
of course).

Lawyers and judges in America like people to appear to be submissive
and stupid and easily manipulated. They like to feel superior to you.
By letting them think that you are weak and falling for their lies,
you may give yourself some breathing room. This tactic has even
enabled some people to stay alive and not get murdered, and to escape
from America back to safety.


The growing American nightmare

It is just getting worse and worse in America's legal system. For
some years now, the USA judges and lawyers have gotten used to
denying people justice, to the great flow of bribery money, and even
to committing felony crimes in broad daylight and getting away with
it. It just keeps on escalating. Though a social explosion is lurking
beneath the surface - with judges starting to get murdered, and
people lighting courthouses ablaze - the people who run America are
letting the current system chug along as it is, justice be damned,
and to hell with the people who seem to have no way to fight back.

It can't go on like this forever, but it may get a lot worse first,
despite the fair internet visibility on documented American legal
corruption. One should note a brave and promising grass-roots attempt
at judicial reform in the USA called (Jail 4 Judges -
www.jail4judges.org), which attempts to place onto American ballots,
a referendum for a new procedure to give citizens a real right of
redress against corrupt judges. It is a wonderful and beautiful idea
that deserves success, and will help transform America if it moves
forward.

Regrettably, though, for all the usual reasons of fear, there is no
one with any big money or media clout, yet making a foray against the
real-life nightmare of America's courts and prisons. It remains a
taboo subject for the American media, and the media silence feeds and
encourages the whole machine of bribery and repression.

Perhaps, though, it will not be until after America has had a major
economic or social cataclysm, that the big American machine of legal
corruption finally comes to be reformed.

Sociologically speaking, it's astonishing how disgraceful American
lawyers have become - they are now both the mafia and the gestapo of
American life. America's lawyers, as a whole, have had little to say
about America’s recent international crimes of prisoner abuse, and
violation of international human rights agreements. American lawyers,
as always nowadays, are "playing the game" with America's government
and its judges.

America, indeed, does not have the rule of law at all. Instead, it is
just the rule of lawyers, lawyers who crave money and power. And, in
America, it can be jail or worse for anyone who tries to fight these
lawyers.

The reality of the United States of America is that Americans,
despite their overall wealth as a nation, are now a people living in
a society of great fear. Their fears are complicated, and many
Americans cannot even put their fears into words. They are afraid of
lawyers and the prison system, afraid of losing their jobs in a
brutal society with no social safety net, afraid of needing health
care in a disastrous system with no health plan. And Americans are
afraid of what will happen if they try to question the system and the
way things work. They often feel helpless and powerless against the
great forces dominating their country.

American citizens are confused and fearful, and gullible to
propaganda. Because Americans have difficulty in sorting out their
many fears, they have become ripe candidates for racial and religious
hatreds, and for following their government into war. The issues of
"terrorism" and war distract the emotions of Americans from the
terrible problems in their own society at home. The foreign "enemy"
gives Americans a face on which to project their fear and their
anger. The result is the horrifying misconduct of some Americans in
these wars; while back inside the USA, there is increasing corruption
and repression in the legal system.

Americans desperately would like to believe that they still live in a
"free" country, as it is so horrifying to them to face the ugly
truth, that their freedom is already largely lost. Americans can
imagine they are "free" because they can still choose among different
products to buy, or quit their job, or buy a gun at the store. And
the Americans most likely to imagine they are still "free" are the
ones who have not yet been trapped in the halls of America’s legal
system. They have not yet seen the lawyers and judges who smirk and
laugh as they deny victims the most basic human rights.

The truth is that, inside America, a nightmare has begun. The lawyers
and judges and courts, "playing the game", regularly trample upon the
freedoms that Americans thought they had. It is people like myself,
escaped from the USA, living in kinder and gentler places, who are
now the lucky ones.

No one should ever again be fooled by USA propaganda about being the
"land of freedom". Those who are thinking of travelling to, visiting,
or working in America, should think again. It might not be worth the
risk of being in a country that has one of the most crooked legal
systems in the world.

haswtch
08-30-2005, 08:40 PM
WOW! Who wrote this Patti? it's great!!! I mean, where is the guy from and where is the website? I have saved the article to my hard drive

jblovesdb
08-30-2005, 08:47 PM
WOW...that's all I can say!!

deb
08-30-2005, 09:00 PM
How true. Thanks for sharing Patti..

Deb

FriscoLady
08-31-2005, 03:44 AM
I have tried to find this guy, it was sent to me via VA.Cure. This man just says in writing what we already know!

Deb, will probably will laugh at my next comment for she knows me too well.

Ok, so what are we waiting for? Our Founding Fathers got rid of one corrupt government, what is stopping us?

Fear? What is fear but a primal motivator? We each of us stand up individually we are bulldozed, but together, what could be accomplished?

Patti

titantoo
08-31-2005, 09:20 AM
Haven't read it yet...but its saved.
Thanks Patti (as usual)

Rostonhall
09-01-2005, 02:19 AM
I'm printing it off and saving it, Patti, thanks.

Rose

MsVicki
09-01-2005, 07:34 AM
WOW! is all I can say. So true. Thanks. Take care and God bless.

titantoo
09-05-2005, 09:32 PM
Haven't read it yet...but its saved.
Thanks Patti (as usual)
Well..I finally found time to read it.
Maybe (?) I am too naive...but it was too much over the top for me!
Everything it said is partially true but it was too extreme and exagerated.
I think I know where the sentiments come from...but it is not that bad in reality is it?

Please don't tell me I am wrong ---- unless I am!

David
09-06-2005, 12:00 AM
Titan, I would never... ;) :p
But, I have to read it first..

This is one for the printer... Hope to read it tomorrow.

funnyface09
09-06-2005, 01:37 AM
I agree with Titan. It is not right. Partial truth added to lies and exageration. Hmmmm, sound like propaganda to me. and since you can't find who wrote it, I would say that is exactly what it was, and it is doing exactly what it was intended to do.
Read it again. Slowly

My 2cents

Sherrie

Madhatter
10-18-2007, 06:50 PM
I agree with FF & Titan. Half truths, inuendo's, and no author. Sounds fishy!!!!!

I'd tell this guy - at least we HAVE a legal system, even if it has warts.

We don't arrest someone, torture them into saying what we want them to say and then executing them before they can recant like some countries do.

tigrldy
10-18-2007, 08:40 PM
I knew I had heard the name of Les Sachs. He is the author of this. I googled his name. He accused Patricia Cromwell of stealing his work, conspiring to kill him along with George Bush and the American government, and throwing in the Canadian gov as back up to the conspiracy. A lot of his accusations seems to be innuendo with no proof to back it up, and I vaguely remember him trying to quash one of Patricias books claiming it as his own so I'm thinking there was a monetary motive to these ramblings against her at least.

http://www.dr-les-sachs.be/detailed-biography.html

Madhatter
10-19-2007, 12:54 PM
After reading most of that "biography", it is apparent that he wrote it himself. I think the man has serious "mental" issues. But of course that is just my opinion.

gordocarla
10-20-2007, 07:54 PM
Friscolady
________________________
I agree with you
Specially on this part:
"America has the largest prison gulag in the entire world - yes, right
there in the USA, the self-proclaimed "land of freedom". The starting point for understanding anything about the USA, is to digest the fact
that just this one country, the United States of America, has twenty- five percent of ALL of the prisoners in the entire world."
The saddest part is when nobody beieves it until it hits their own backyard

Guinevere
10-21-2007, 12:28 PM
Don't know the guy from Adam, but from the things I have witnessed myself, I agree with most of the article. I believe the founding fathers of our country had a great idea, but somehow everything has gotten skewed in the last 200 years. Yes, we have a better system than a lot of countries. But you are then comparing apples to oranges, not apples to apples. For the advanced industrialization that our country has compared to most of the rest of the globe, our justice system is pathetic.

biglinmarshall
10-21-2007, 04:42 PM
That is so true - and so unbelievably sad.

MissinMyMan25
10-22-2007, 12:34 AM
Unfortunately my man is going through some of the things that make our legal and judicial system corrupt. They sentence people to one thing, and then outta nowwhere they snatch them up early in the morning, ship them out of the county and take them 4 hours away to a penitentiary and try to make them serve 3-9 times longer...what's that about?!

Lazia
11-02-2007, 06:42 PM
It's your country and your legal system. Only you can change it.

gordocarla
11-02-2007, 08:09 PM
It is true only citizens can change this abusive legal system, but unfortunatelly no one cares until it hits their own backyard

FriscoLady
11-03-2007, 06:52 PM
In my opinion our justice system is to the point now where we will not be able to change it through the vote or speaking out. Like the rest of the government agencies and all governments from the street level to Washington DC it is so corrupt and full of the true criminals, power mongers, war mongers, etc., etc., that there is only one way to solve the problem.

The same way our Founding Fathers solved their overbearing government problem in 1776-1781.

I am not saying that there are not good people in government on all levels, I am saying that those that are not or misguided far out number those that serve us honorably.

So folks, do we change it, or do we continue to let it beat us down?

Remember "We the people" are the government - we can fire these unethical politicians, judges, cops, etc. - who seemed to have forgotten who is the government. We can fire them - by the vote - or as the Founding Fathers did - by the sword. It is their choice.

Patti

Gymnastic Chick
11-03-2007, 09:11 PM
That was a nice speech, but how do I know if its true?

FriscoLady
11-04-2007, 02:30 AM
That was a nice speech, but how do I know if its true?

That you have to decide for yourself.

Having grown up with parents who remember the 1930s and 40s with Hitler, I have as you can see made up my mind.

In fact, the day my Mom said I am not going to live through this again was the day I made up my mind.

That was during one particular visitation day when she started speaking of the various laws that she remembered from then, and of ones in this country that reminded her of them. Yes, we had silly discussions of politics during visitation and in letters while I was in, but then again we both have degrees in History and Political Science and the field is our passion. So what can I say? LOL.

However, or if you oppose something is entirely up to you.

My mother and I write and speak.

My three children voted with their feet, left the country and renounced their citizenships. My son being young and full of the hot blood of youth, is now an career officer in the German Air Force, firmly convinced that sometime during his military career he will have to fight the U.S. I hope he is wrong, but I wonder.

My older daughter is living in Tel Aviv, my youngest is in University in Germany.

Point is most of us have left, we are just not going to deal with an every increasing oppressive government again.

All but one of my sisters and I have returned to Germany, the only reason she and I stay is because our parents are too old to move.

I often wonder will we leave after they are gone, I think we will - we have this choice though most here don't and have to make the decision of how much they are going to put up with from a corrupt government, and how they are going oppose it if they choose to do so.

My son has often said that in the ten years he has lived in Europe - that he feels he has more freedom and less government intrusion back in Germany than he ever did here.

Sorry for the family history, I was just trying to make the point, I don't know if I did. What I had planned as a one line answer - grew a little.

Patti

lilithinwaiting
11-04-2007, 05:20 AM
Amazing how for years people were telling just how corrupt the legal system was; yet, people preferred to put up blinders. People speak of how they fear those in prison , I say, fear the ones that aren't locked up. If you must fear, fear the ones leading the government that is where the power is. WE are the government, we need to take back the power ,put a more honest and caring legal system together.. Hard to do yes, but not impossible

FriscoLady, you made some of the best statements that I have heard in a long time. Thank YOU!!

jsnake
11-04-2007, 05:27 AM
we always hear about the prison labor in China, b ut no one talks about the prison labor in the US , especially in Ga, where convicts dont get paid but have to pay for medical and forced to work to get a good parole packet...did ya hear about prisons in the southwest starting to hire convicts for telemarketers?...i guess we can now bring back jobs, since it will be free?...US always has doubler standards,yet speaks of its moral character:mad:

nmnatesmom
11-08-2007, 07:34 AM
We CAN make a difference. Our NM NAACP just adopted 4 resolutions, one dealing with 'treatment versus incarceration' options, one with providing adequate funding for NM's Public Defenders' office...I went to Santa Fe to speak on behalf of patients who have been approved for medical marijuana. I'm trying to get funding so we can provide our community with information about mandatory minimums, privatization of prisons, the problem with the concept of the war on drugs (it's a war on people, especially people of color and lower incomes). I feel stronger trying to do something, even if it is not time for a change.
Otherwise, for me, I just think of my son in prison because of his addiction and cry.
Be strong and bless us all!

Logan1492
11-19-2007, 11:50 PM
I'm trying to get funding so we can provide our community with information about mandatory minimums, privatization of prisons, the problem with the concept of the war on drugs (it's a war on people, especially people of color and lower incomes). I feel stronger trying to do something, even if it is not time for a change.
Otherwise, for me, I just think of my son in prison because of his addiction and cry.

Today's (Nov 20, 2007) edition of the New York Times newspaper reports the following:

"Federal financing for drug prevention and treatment programs has been steadily declining since 2005."

Full story is here (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/opinion/19mon2.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin).

justus1
11-20-2007, 12:39 AM
I agree with Titan. It is not right. Partial truth added to lies and exageration. Hmmmm, sound like propaganda to me. and since you can't find who wrote it, I would say that is exactly what it was, and it is doing exactly what it was intended to do.
Read it again. Slowly

My 2cents

Sherrie

It does sound a bit "over the top". I also understand the author of this article may be a bit screwy.

But the fact remains that, for a so-called "civilized, free country", we have the single highest population of our citizenry incarcerated, of all the countries in the world. Prison, in the U.S.A. is Big Business. I worked in the system, and I can tell you for a fact that if Ohio were to close down it's prisons, the state would be bankrupt in no time. It is the highest employer of the state, and that's probably fact for MOST states in this country. The main problem with that is that it creates too much incentive to fill those cells/cots. Whenever money is involved, there's too much room for corruption.

Take the AWA (Adam Walsh Act), that's a train wreck that is slowly traveling from east to west across this nation. Each state is being told that if they do NOT pass their own versions of it, the Federal Government will pull funding from them. They were also told that if they passed their version by July of 2007, they would get a 10% (I believe) funding BONUS to implement it. Ohio is but one state that jumped on the bandwagon, basically took the Adam Walsh Act and stuck the name Ohio in front of it, and signed it into law on June 30, 2007. Whew, just made it. Now they will get their bonus...10% of NOTHING, because the feds haven't funded it yet. This is just an example of how money corrupts. Each state has been told they will receive a certain amount of money for each sexual predator they have on the registry (SORNA) as well. Ohio's AG just re-classified all of it's registered sex offfenders, via SORNA (Sex Offender Registration Notification Act), and trust me, most of the RSO's are going from level 1's and 2's to level 3's. Gotta bring in those "bucks". Seeing as it hasn't been funded, we might as well be talking about deer.

Our legal system is not just broke, people, it's corrupt. It's gotten worse since the implementation of the Patriot Act. I can't speak for anyone else, but my husband WAS tortured, and coerced into making a statement without advice of an attorney. He asked for an attorney, and they threatened to harm ME if he didn't cooperate with them, if he made them get an attorney (they were at our home, had executed a search warrant), they would make things MUCH worse on me and the kids. They may as well have gone ahead an executed him before he could tell, because he screamed it from the mountain tops and no one listened, no one cared.

After all I went through, and have read about, I would sooner call a felon for help than a cop.

LOVELY123
12-01-2007, 06:16 PM
the truth is we have the more prisions on the entire world, believe o not and that have to be something wrong, the more poor people go to prision is truth , but because they don't have the mone for a lawyers:angry:

LOVELY123
12-01-2007, 06:23 PM
me to

pto12345
02-11-2008, 11:59 PM
I read the threads from people saying our legal system is so corrupt, and it is our right and obligation to do something about it? How can we? In MN there are 2 facts to support the theory putting people in prison is a business. 5 years ago, for every inmate MN incarcerated they were reimbursed about $382 a day from the federal government. Also, the phone systems in the prison's profitted the state a billion dollars a year. The families are suffering from not only lonliness, and fear their person will be safe, but also economic loss because we lose their income, and because we miss them and they are miserable, we pay the exorbitant fees to be able to talk to them. In MN they take 10% of any money we send the prisoner's. In Wisconsin they take 25%. It is obvious that they are arresting, and sending people to prison at a more rapid percentage than ever before, then they complain they are so overcrowded they have to build more prisons. Governor Doyle of Wisconsin made a statement he wanted more treatment vs incarceration for non violent offender's to stop them from re offending, and to make room for the truly dangerous people. I brought this to our attorney's attention, and she pleaded with the judge to finally send my fiance to treatment. With 9 DUI's he had never had treatment for his alcoholism while in jail. There was research to show people with 1-2 DUI's/OWI's usually have family, jobs, etc, and will probably not re offend, but people with 5 or more, usually have such an alcohol problem, they have lost family, friends & jobs, and have nothing to lose, and without treatment they will definitely re offend. My fiance had a very horrible childhood filled with physical &mental abuse, alcoholic parents, he was molested at 8 yrs old by 2 aunts, repeatedly, then at 15 after being beat by his uncle who his parent's knew about, and sent him to live with. He has repeatedly drank& drove, repeatedly attempted suicide. I & the attorney pleaded with the judge for treatment with psychological assistance for his depression and issues from the past. The judge agreed his alcoholism and all the trouble it has caused was in this case not his fault, but because of his horrendous past, brought on by others. But in the end, it would not of looked good for Judge Babler of Barron County Wisc to just send him to treatment to fix him, hopefully preventing anymore OWI's or suicide, instead he did the politically smart thing for himself and sent him to prison. He did not even order treatment, just suggested he ask for it while in. Another failure by the court system for political gain. I tried to get this lawyer to step up to the plate and make a difference, to my person, and for the future good of whatever community my guy lives in, but that would have been political suicide, and I am sure he is up for re-election. I have my doubts there is a way for us to change the legal system. We would be stopped. If there is a way, please post it on this.
My son says little things keep happening with him at the prison, like his money orders never get there, or they take weeks to get on his account, yet other guys get their's real fast. He figured out the problem. The head of the MN DOC is the father of a young man a few years ago my son had some serious problems with. The head of the DOC knows who my son is, and all kinds of little stuff keeps happening that shouldn't. This man is using his position to get back at my son, when his son is a drug dealer too.

Rhuby
02-12-2008, 01:32 AM
I agree with Titan. It is not right. Partial truth added to lies and exageration. Hmmmm, sound like propaganda to me. and since you can't find who wrote it, I would say that is exactly what it was, and it is doing exactly what it was intended to do.
Read it again. Slowly

My 2cents

Sherrie

I completely agree. If you want to see what government corruption really is, look here (http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=2604).

Eldon's wife
02-12-2008, 03:06 AM
I used this in another area, but it certainly seems to fit this thread well and it answers nowheregirl's question. What we can do is pray like we have never prayed before, because things will get worse before there is any chance that they will get better...

There will be no change in prison policy in this country. What has occurred has taken place over decades and left the federal government with no choice, but to continue to incarcerate and have no doubt that the numbers will continue to increase at astronomical rates. The multi-billion dollar prison industry in this nation is one of our largest employers and the unbelievable number of jobs that it creates in other sectors make it a beast that cannot be tamed.

Politicians have won elections by carefully creating the laws that assure that incarceration rates are up and will remain so and by carefully placing the units that tax-dollars build in economically depressed areas. There are now thriving little communities that would become ghost towns were the units that feed their economies shut down. They will not ever close for that reason.

It would take one hell of a public outcry to change U.S. policy regarding incarceration and someday I fully expect that cry to come. Sadly, it will only come, when it is far too late. With so many of our jobs moved overseas to allow big business the maximum profit, America had to have a new commodity to make up the difference and we found it. One of the main goods that now brings the greatest profit in our country are more than two and a half million American souls.

Welcome to the land of the free! Units cannot be closed, nor will any law be too much revised if at all no matter how unjust racially or in any other way. If the three strikes law were struck down as it should be not only does it decrease the future prison population, but those sentenced now under that law would find release and that will not be allowed to happen. If any drug law is eased, the effects would be expected to be retroactive. That means at the least tens of thousands that might escape incarceration almost instantly. Those possessing crack will continue to face unjust sanction compared to their white counterparts, because they are needed to provide pay checks to prison staffs.

Not a single politician dares tell you that the economy would be in grave danger were incarceration rates allowed to suddenly drop. That is admitting that they sell human beings. However, in reality that is exactly what we do. This is the new American slave trade and there is no other way to describe it, when the vast majority of those locked away are guilty of non-violent crimes. Let the right politician stand on a podium and tell our so-called civilized nation that we must incarcerate five million to be safe and you can bet that they will allow it to happen overnight and without protest.

I fully expect us to reach that mark without many more years passing at the current rates. Add to that the outrageous number on probation and parole and the poor in this nation are no better than annihilated Indian tribes and African Americans dragged from their homelands in our past. We do not learn from our mistakes. All it takes is for the government to say that it is for our good that things are this way and the masses gladly follow their lead.

Think about it. How many do you know who would say leave ten thousand innocent men incarcerated even if it were proven without doubt that they were innocent if you pointed out that their being freed would cost them their job within a few weeks? Were these people being freed of wrongful conviction to drastically effect the economy, politicians would fight their release somehow and so would the majority around us. Politicians know the answer the masses would give to the sacrifice of others for personal gain and so do all of us, Tragically, the mainstream that would leave them incarcerated to benefit themselves are the voices that count.

Never expect change in all of this, but expect that it will get far worse. The people running the show know that the things that they do are only making things worse. Lock a seventeen year old shoplifter up with real criminals and let him be raped a few times or better yet protected by the gang who will own his soul for life. Then say that it is not society's fault that his mind is forever twisted. After all every "freeman" as we proclaim all to be should accept abuse without question if it is for the greater good.

Inmates regardless of color are less than human just as Native Americans and slaves were once said to be and the headlines remind us of that supposed truth everyday. We are in a recession that will get far worse at the moment and many of those who have been so certain that they are safe may wake up on the other side of the tracks some morning soon. What many of those supporting this insanity do not get is that the more of us who exist in poverty, the easier it is to reach that five million mark and beyond. With prices increasing and wages fixed for years, poverty is going to be an easy place for millions more to find themselves, though they cannot see the truth at the moment.

Hitler once reflected on the fact that the bigger the lie, the easier to make the masses believe that it is truth. We are being fed some colossal lies concerning incarceration in this country and it seems that the masses swallow them like life giving medicine. An interesting note here is that the German people allowed six million Jews to be savagely tortured and slaughtered in prison camps in their backyards, because it was in their best-interests not to speak out. They would not stand against a reign of tyranny.

Do you honestly think that the masses in this country are concerned that soon as they will see it we will only allow five million to kick back with their feet up and watch television? They will not consider it stealing the lives and Spirits of human beings. Do you feel they will stand against tyranny, when those sacrificed are repeatedly guaranteed to be less than human by all who profit from their suffering?

As I said earlier

Welcome To The Land Of The Free
& Home Of The Two And A Half Million Imprisoned...

Cinderella22
03-02-2008, 09:50 PM
alot of information there

nordmann
03-08-2008, 12:33 PM
I agree with the general gist of the article. I didn't bother finishing it, though, because it wasn't very well written. It could have been edited down to a third of its length and said the same thing. But my biggest complaint is that it lacked any references to its sources. It was a collection of unfounded allegations. I think most of them are basically true, and so my only real interest in reading the article would be to find out the details of where and when some specific atrocity occurred, and where I can find out more information about it. By the halfway point, it became evident that the author was not going to provide much more than repetitive blanket statements about the various types of abuses that are rampant in our legal system.


This article would be a lot more forceful, and could be taken a lot more seriously, if it were better researched and included references. A diatribe will generally be dismissed by most people--even when it is mostly true.

Crone
03-09-2008, 12:48 PM
I'm borrowing this post from Lebeau to give members a heads up:

This whole thing is bloody brilliant and I think it will attract a lot of attention to an important set of issues but....
and you knew there was a but coming....
Y'all MUST stop posting in other forums telling people to come to this one!
In your enthusiasm, you're causing the staff to spend a lot of time removing these threads.
I know this is important, but if we cancel the rules for this issue, then we have to cancel them for the next important thing, and spend a lot of time telling people that their pet issue is less important than some other pet issue, and then PTO is half filled with threads that say "go look at this thread" and the other half filled with threads rightfully demanding to know why the rules apply to them but not to some others.... So, please stop stumping all over the site for this.
In case anyone missed it when they read the policies upon registering, these are the policies that apply here....

Quote:
• “Directing” Posts or Threads:
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and
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I wish you great success in this very witty endeavor, but please do it within site policy... thanks
{emphasis added]

We are excited about this effort; HOWEVER, do not start a TEA Party thread in the forum for your state. This will be considered crossposting and the posts/threads will be deleted. Help the moderators out please by keeping this discussion in the original thread.

Also know that there can be no directing other members to the original thread.

Judeca
03-10-2008, 10:37 AM
Crone2004,

You and LeBeau are right on target :), this may be the answer we've all been searching for. I've never been an Activist, so I would have prefered a Reform site instead of the Activist site, but it's still getting attention, and not just in America but from other countries. We're still small compared to where we want to be, but at this rate it won't take long.

pearyb
11-09-2008, 07:17 AM
I don't especially need solid evidence and referrals of ironclad facts to accept the incredible level of open corruption within the system. Less evident with lawyers unless your sitting in the defendent's chair and then do you get a birds eye view of horror corruption, legal bribery is as common as a cup of coffee. Fortunately lawyers are easy to track.

WCC
12-09-2008, 05:36 PM
In the end Karma is all that matters just ask OJ Simpson....justice was served

cornered
12-10-2008, 01:46 AM
That you have to decide for yourself.
Actually Patti, it would help immensely if you also had a link for the story to it's original site.


Having grown up with parents who remember the 1930s and 40s with Hitler, I have as you can see made up my mind.
Yeah, I know. And I keep telling you how much I want to meet your father (for reason we discussed in private).