he is not running again for NY GOV....

buh bye! :thumbsup:

good!!! hopefully whomever takes office will have some compassion for our loved ones in the system.

Peace....This is the best news I have heard in a minute....prayerfully, the state of NY will employ someone who cares and works for everyone! Blessings....

GREAT!!!!!!! hope better reform on rocker fellor drug laws. MORE programs versus prisons

I'm not in NY and can't vote there; but if he had run again...I think I might have had to take a sabbatical from my reagular life to come campaign against him. Yes, indeed it is hopeful news. May someone come in and undue some of the damage.

Well I have to say good riddance to Pataki. Hopefully they get someone better in there.

YEAH!!!! This is long overdue!

Thank Goodness!!!

yeah, maybe we will get someone in there with half a brain and someone who believes in Parole and that some men DO change in prison!

I hate to ask for everyone to be wary, but this man will not be leaving politics. The question is where is he think he's going and will it really happen? Pataki's name has been tossed around as a Vice Presidential possiblity in 2008 for th Republicans. Imagine what that might do...pray that he leaves peacefully and we hear nothing more, but prapare for it.

Thank god! It's about time!
see ya! have a nice life!
I hope he doesn't run for anymore offices, I might just have to move to Canada!

stuffed shirt but they seem to thive these days. glad he's leaving NY anyhow, ansd I don't think he has national charisma- one hopes anyway

Another one bites the dust!

if he thinks he has a chance at being v.p. of this country, he better put down the crack pipe!!!! him and rudy can run together, theY won't win the PEOPLE vote. but than again george didn't win, he robe the vote in fla.

mr tic-tak should go back under the rock ,the slim ball came from

thank god

any ideas who's going to be running now?

i'm with you and praying for a democrat to take over in the horrific state, they are more likely to pay attention to social needs, than business needs. Tell all your friends, vote DEMOCRAT!!!!

There really is a GOD!!!!!!!!!!

Adios Pataki This Will Be My Hopes And Dreams For Someone To Sign The Merit Bill And Maybe My Husband Will Be Home To Me Sooner Than 2016...

if he thinks he has a chance at being v.p. of this country, he better put down the crack pipe!!!!

rywill....LMAO :haha:

I am a month late on this but... SPECTACULAR NEWS! Thank the Lord! :)

Good, now he is gone I think the 8 months euals 1 jail year begins!Lets just pray Girlz!

Can I ask WHY all of you want Pataki gone so bad and think prison life is soooo horrible? I know this is going to open me up to A LOT of flames, BUT until you have worked inside for over 16 years, and have seen all of the privelages and amentities that NYS inmates get, you can't complain just because you have to find a blanket that says "flame retardant" on it! If you want to hear about prison being ROUGH check out the forums on Alabama, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas, etc! I have visited prisons in all of these states, and I have seen first hand how convicts get NOTHING extra (NO package rooms!), they get what the state issues to them and that's it(VERY restricted commissary purchasing - NO food in their cells!), they are severely restricted on "personal property", they don't get very many programs and they don't get very much rec ("yard") time either. I know I'm going to regret posting this! :-) ha ha ha

CO1989

CO, (I am so glad we have a CO in the NY forum now), I do believe that the NYSDOC is better than a lot of places, in visiting policies certainly and, in forward looking facilities like Wallkill and Eastern, in programming and facilities. And I have NEVER had a CO harass me over nothing or make me feel like a second class citizen, which surely speaks well for the ones I know at least.
But:
The man I love is in Coxsackie. Surely you have heard of it? He is locked down a whole lot of the time and there is just nothing there for him of any use at all. He is not there because he did something especially heinous, matter of fact, you could examine his entire history and not see ONE injured victim or robbery or fraud.
He is in there for ten years flat bid- because the court didn't like his attitude. Maybe you believe that courts are always right, IDK, but the sentence of ten years was made possible courtesy of the Pataki regime's sentencing policies. It was a second strike. The first one was in '89.
Being tough on crime SOUNDS good, but it is very dangerous when mindlessly applied. Rockefeller laws, mandatory minimums, and the like have created more problems than they have solved.
The problems are not the fault of you as an individual or even of Glenn Goord, but with the complete lack of ability of many people to glimpse solutions beyond vengeance and adversarial insanity. That goes for SOME politicians, SOME people who work in the system, and SOME of the characters who just keep cycling back and forth between prison and the street, causing worse and worse damage.
Pataki got elected selling the death penalty. I know it hasn't actually been used- cooler heads prevailed- but there is NO way I am not glad to see that man go. He's a nimrod. That's why we're glad, not because we are whining about flame retardant blankets. I fully understand the logic there. For that matter so does my honey.

Maybe some day we will find ways to reform the errant without putting them in places where lighting blankets on fire and hanging themselves and fighting over nothing seem like a brilliant idea. Where the good guys can really lead the way and offer something better. The current system is doomed because to change for the better, an inmate has to swim upstream really hard. You might say that's the way it's supposed to be, but I believe the cost is just too high in a million different ways.

Welcome to PTO! Flaming ain't our style, we leave that to the people on the LEO boards;)

Can I ask WHY all of you want Pataki gone so bad and think prison life is soooo horrible?
CO1989

Pataki's presence for me has nothing to do with his treatment of inmates within the department of corrections; that is not his job nor does he have a concern with it. His being gone has to do with the influx and political domination that he has taken in inserting legislation that dictates what happens in the case of sentencing and parole.

Maybe you should have started a different thread that talks about the treatment of inmates from state to state. If that is the case, then you would be addressing Goords' role not Pataki.

Haswtch & Rywll, I want to reply to your posts, but I have to go work my first part time job right now, but I WILL get to them in the nearfuture, so we can all be on the same page and maybe understand. K? Until then have a great day

CO1989

first part time job? of two? wow's your union liking this administration's policies as related to salaries and cost of living, BTW:) Looking forward to further discussion, hope you had a great day too!

CO - we don't like Pataki because he's got the usual cheap political attitude that picks on the helpless - prisoners and their loved ones. The fact that NY prisons are better, which I realize is true, has more to do with past administrations than with Pataki. But the thing that bothers me most of all is that prisons damage all who spend time within their walls, and that means you and your fellow COs, too. I have had some friends who were COs, and they ended up with the most warped views of the world, and with bad drink/drug problems after working prisons for just a few years. No-one gets out unscathed...how can that be good for anyone? Pataki is just another in the long line of non-thinkers. We always hope the next one will be better . . . eternal optimism. We need a leader who realizes that spending more money on new prisons is just a slow matter of eating your young. . . it leaves creativity out, starves the programs that might keep people from becoming so out-of-control, so damaged, so ignorant and unschooled, so prison-ready.

Thank God he was long over due.. I pray that 8 months is a yr is correct but i also heard that it was 6 which is right and when will it take effect?? If that is in fact true alot of people are on there way home !!!!!

I don't think I have ever been happier about anything. Well, maybe that's stretching it, but still...thank God. And please, NO VICE PRESIDENT PATAKI