Well I finally got to see my son,he's in draper it was a good visit. He said it wasn't that bad,but it was still prison. It wasn't at all what I expectedit to be. Everyone was real nice. We sat outside and talked and just had a great visit. I can't wait till he comes home.:) :) :) :)

its great hear the you had a good visit. It amazes me how some prison have outside places to visit and others don't. I miss the whole "outside" thing. At bibb the visits are inside (no smoking-whick kills me) no tables, it just a bummer....

count your blessings...DJ

I agree with you it's one of the better places we have been to visit and what is so strange is the inmates actually have a smile on their face. The CO's that I've met so far have been extremely nice and more than willing to answer any questions you have...I didn't see that overbearing "attitude" some of the CO's have at other prisons. No screaming and hollering at the inmates and the inmates are able to kid and cut up with each other. We was introduced to some of my son's friends and one sit with us for awhile and smoked. I was at ease there. Maybe it has to do with the programs they offer there and they have alot of them. I'm glad to hear you had a good visit because I've only been there once and glad to hear how you was treated and hopefully these people that work there see this and I give them a thumbs up!

Draper was ok...compared to Staten (right behind Draper) Staten has tables and a nice big canopy. There is a nice place for the kids to play and when you walk out the door you are outside. No having to go up and down a ramp and no crowding when the visits are over. Brad is at the Camden Work Release Center. We went to see him this weekend and it was totally different. We got to sit in an air conditioned builiding, eat, SMOKE, etc. No guards looking over your shoulder and he can finally wear street clothes.

I had a horrible first visit. First of all, they denied me!

1) They said they denied me because he couldn't have a "lady friend" as well as a wife on his visit list. Well, it just so happens that his "lady friend" was his aunt and it was clear that she was his aunt because "Aunt" was written in the box where it says "relationship to inmate".

2) My father-in-law who is disabled was very nice to them. Since I couldn't get in, I handed him the baby and told him to take her in there with him so she could see her daddy. The lady CO at the front desk said no sir you can't do that. I said, "Well, can I sign the piece of paper giving him permission to take MY baby in?" and she ignored me. She told him that he couldn't take her because she was my baby and i wasn't allowed in there. HELLO! the whole point of signing that piece of paper is to give someone ELSE permission to handle the baby and I knew the rules.

3) I went back to the car (keep in mind, it was rainy, I had the baby, and I would have to sit in the car with an already very irritated baby) and my father-in-law had to walk me back because "i couldn't go by myself" said the COs.

4) He goes back. He handed her his wallet and she said no sir you can't have that wallet, take it back to your car. (our car was about 100 yards away and they didn't have handicapped parking spaces) So finally, he gets in to get searched. He pulls out 6 dollar bills and the male CO says Sir you can't have those dollars when nowhere did it say that the $30 had to be in quarters, dimes, nickles, etc. We figured since the money was for a vending machine, that it would take dollars bills. So the COs make him walk all the way back to the car to put it up (he has lupus and has had 11 back surgeries and keep in mind, all the COs seemed to really enjoy this). THEN, he goes back into the place and lo and behold, he has a pack of cigarettes. They tell him, sir you have to take that back to the car (why they don't have a trash can I don't know)

5) I swear I could see steam coming out of his ears!

6) Once Tommy (my FIL) got in to see my hubby, i had already been in the car for at least 30 minutes. So he told my hubby that we were sorry, but we can't see him that day so they both get up to leave and my FIL is tellin my hubby what happened and that he had never been so disrespected in his life. The sergeant asked him what happened and he proceeded to say that he had just never been so disrespected in his life.

7) One of the lady COs went off on him saying that he had disrespected her and her staff by telling the sergeant that and blah blah...

8) My hubby wrote me a letter saying that after we left, he started getting treated like crap which is the opposite of what we wanted to happen. So, my FIL talked to the commissioner and the assistant commissioner and told them what happened and all and the fact that one of the guards had been hitting thomas and that we could get a lawyer involved if we had to. So she cleared it up really quick.

You know what, we are not racist people by any means. However, that day, all the white people that went in there mysteriously got "denied." There was a black woman in there that also had an aunt on her hubby's visit list and she was denied in the computer, but the CO told her to wait a minute and she would fix it (THAT WOMAN GOT TO GO IN!) Is it me, or do they just not like white people? I hold nothing against the black people that got to go in and see their loved ones. I don't know if the COs just decided to "have some fun" that day or what. I don't understand. It's just putting insult to injury. I don't understand how someone could be so cold-hearted that they would do that to a person that was very friendly to them..

I didn't go in there to cause any trouble.

Heey!
I understand your frustration,but the strict rules are there for a reason.
Anyone who goes into a correctional facility for a visitation should study the rules and regulations VERY carefully.
I have dealt with visitation in Riverbend Maximum Security Prison in Tn (talk about STRICT rules!!!) several county jails in alabama and county jails in Texas and Florida.
I have two small children who were always with me at the visitation.
I HAVE NEVER HAD NOT ONE PROBLEM WITH A VISITATION,and that is due to studying every single facilitys rules very carefully.
To me 'getting back' to the CO's is when they cannot find not one single thing to complain about. :))))) lol

oh and BTW I am white and my kids are too and my husband :)

Altough THERE

altough there is a LOT of 'white' racisim in Draper= racisim against white people.
My husband complained about it on the phone and I told him this:" You messed up, so SUCK IT UP,and deal with it!!!" LOL

Heey!
I understand your frustration,but the strict rules are there for a reason.
Anyone who goes into a correctional facility for a visitation should study the rules and regulations VERY carefully.
I have dealt with visitation in Riverbend Maximum Security Prison in Tn (talk about STRICT rules!!!) several county jails in alabama and county jails in Texas and Florida.
I have two small children who were always with me at the visitation.
I HAVE NEVER HAD NOT ONE PROBLEM WITH A VISITATION,and that is due to studying every single facilitys rules very carefully.
To me 'getting back' to the CO's is when they cannot find not one single thing to complain about. :))))) lol

Trust me, I have read the ADOC rules and regulations about 50 times over. I have it saved in my favorites. It says you can bring up to $20 cash (it says nothing about whether it can be in coins or bills) and it doesn't say anything else about what you can put in your pockets. I am one of those people that research VERY CAREFULLY. Thx

Zaydah: Hahahahaha That's also what I told my hubby. When he told me that the same guard hits everyone (the white men) I said, "Oh, well quit being such a baby. Get over it. If he is not pinpointing you, don't worry about it. You put yourself in this situation so deal with it!" haha I said it jokingly of course, but seriously....

Zaydah: Hahahahaha That's also what I told my hubby. When he told me that the same guard hits everyone (the white men) I said, "Oh, well quit being such a baby. Get over it. If he is not pinpointing you, don't worry about it. You put yourself in this situation so deal with it!" haha I said it jokingly of course, but seriously....

I am just an afwul wife....:D I won't even send my husband any money or buy ANYTHING for him.Not even stamps.Every now and then I put some money on the phone account,so he can call home and talk to the kids etc.
He has put us through HELL,so I see no reason "babying" him.
About the money ,it has to be in coins. $30 max.
Every time my husband is moved to a different facility HE sends me the visitation rules by mail.EVERY inmate can obtain these rules and get a stamp from the chaplain to send it off.
If I were you I would take a copy of the rules with me to the visitation,that way if the CO's give you a hard time,you have something to go by with.
Good Luck!;)

Yea I normally do. I did the last time. Haha yea I know it has to be coins now, but it didn't say that in the rules. My dumb hubby should've sent them to me. Oh girl, I definitely baby my hubs. His parents send him money, I put money in his phone account, I just sent the paperwork off to get his clothes package. I am soo nice to him because he is only 20 and this is a scary experience for him. He is also paranoid that I am going to find someone else! HA like that's gonna happen. He is definitely my one and only. I didn't know I could send him stamps! Is yours in Draper? What is his name? My hubby probably knows him! That would be pretty neat! Maybe we could meet at a visit or something. wow..that's a great place to meet someone for the first time!

My husband is in Draper.
He is in his mid thirties and this is not his first rodeo:D
He actually gets along with Rudolph!! It's all about RESPECT....:o

Yeah, it's hard being young and being in prison for the first time...
There's some BAD people in there.
I sure will pray for your hubby.

yea my hubby is definitely the type of person that gives his utmost respect. A lot of his prison buddies told me that rudolph does that to a bunch of the inmates. It ain't a question of respect. He has never not respected a guard