How many think MJ will get a conviction?

I think he wont. Definately should.

Jacko is going to walk. Maybe a misdemeanor conviction for serving minors alcohol, but that's it. He'll be back in biz waiting at the front gate of "NEVERLAND" for some poor, dumb kid to be driven to his molester's front door like a newspaper. (I think I'm getting sick!)

I heard on the news that Neverland is being sold and if he does walk free, he plans on moving to either Africa or Europe. Interesting!

I think he will walk.

I think he will walk. I think those kids family were gold diggers and the real truth will never come out either.

I think he is guilty, but i dont think anything will happen to him either way.

I think he is guilty, but he will probably just get a slap on the hand and a big fat fine.

I THINK HE WILL WALK....BUT HE SHOULDN'T!!!!! I BELIEVE HE IS GUILTY ON MOST OF THE CHARGES!

Jameswifey, I Hope This Is True And Not A Rumor, That Would Be The Best Thing He Should Do. He Is Guilty As You Know What, But He Will Buy His Way Out Of It Just Like The Others Have. Imo

They better be glad I am not on that jury because there is no way I would convict MJ.
I hope that he does walk but I can't say if I really believe that it will happen.

guilty, but will serve no time, maybe a fine and a slap on the wrist, but no way is a jury going to convict him on the charges, I forsee and plea bargain of a lesser charge

I think he will walk. The family accusing him of these charges seem to be grifters, looking for an easy buck. He will be convicted of the serving alcohol to minors but, in my opinion, there is not enough credible evidence in this case to establish "beyond a reasonable doubt" for Snedon to get a conviction.

I have always loved his music but believe he's guilty and WILL do time. This jury is very serious from what I've heard on courttv. :eek: I also read the boy's testimony from the preliminary hearing on smokinggun and after reading I felt strong he was going to prison, in fact it was my first thought.

The courttv MJ message board is a kick if you want to check it out, hopefully this link will work and its ok to do this: http://boards.courttv.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=62

I think the PARENTS should face charges of child endangerment... I don't know if MJ is guilty of actual molestation or not (Certainly he's guilty of Freakism in the 1st degree) , but I do know that sending your child to spend the night in the bed of an unrelated adult is just plain wrong.

I believe he is going to walk. He shouldn't be able to.

He's guilty as can be - but will probably go to the same prison as O.J. and Robert Blake!
I've heard various 'experts' say he just may get some jail time - but who knows? If the jury members are on the ball and paying attention to all details, they may give a guilty verdict..... I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they decide.

I do believe he will be convicted of some of the charges and it will involve prison time for him. He is in for a rude awakening.

I grew up listening to Michael. I have always liked his music, but on the other hand, I think he is guilty and should be sent to do alot of years, in General Population. Let what he done to little boys be done to him and see if he likes it then. Oh, and yes, Neverland Ranch is being sold.

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I think he is NOT GUILTY!!!!!!
Lets say that he was a child molester the little boys mom should go to jail because I know that she heard of the first incident when it was settled. Why in the Heck would you put your child in that type pf envirorment if you were not up to something. She put her child in harms way because she is slimy and a Looser!
That is just my opinion!!

I think he is guilty in some aspects but that the family is also trying to get some $$$$. I think he will walk but will be fined and possibly placed on probation.

If you think he is guilty or not guilty; will go to prison or walk away a free man is your business but making derogatory remarks is unacceptable.


I must of missed something because I dont see any. He is being accused of being a child molester. Thats just the facts.

Michael knew what he was doing when he picked his victimts, he made sure he picked families that would not look credible.

I dont know if he is guilty or not. I do feel that if he is, then he should do his time, and i hope that the jury return a guilty verdict. If he isnt, then i want him to walk. There are too many innocent people in prion as it is!

The only opinion of guilty or not that matters is that of the 12 jurors deliberating MJ's fate right now. Unless you are actually in the court room you don't know every single detail to know for a fact if he is guilty or innocent. If the Jury says he is guilty of all or some counts then yes he should go to prison. If he isn't then I also think it's a good idea for him to leave the country and never be around children again. EVER.

I do think the family is shady, I also think alot of the witnesses are shady. I mean come on, you are an adult and you walk in on another adult fondling a child and you do nothing??? Where is the responsibility for these people, why didn't they say something when they saw something??? No, they sued him when he fired them but didn't say anything till now when they didn't get money.

But my opinion does not matter one bit because I am not on of his 12 "peers" deciding his innocence or guilt.

I heard on the news that Neverland is being sold and if he does walk free, he plans on moving to either Africa or Europe. Interesting!
If he doesn't flee there first. ;)

If I had to guess without knowing all the facts, I would say there is a serious pattern here and the odds are more towards guilt, at least in my mind, however I don't have all the evidence and unfortunately the Jury doesn't either. Rarely does a jury get all the facts... Only what is allowed in the court.

I actually feel sorry for MJ regardless of his guilt or innocence... I do think he is a kid stuck in a mans body now and like many kids that have come up with a silver spoon, they know no real boundaries. For the first time in his life he is facing real peril and it shows when you see him now. Nobody can protect him... No amount of money...
There really are few feelings worse than having your life in the hands of a judge or jury.. Been there too many times.. And someone like him having to experience it is going to be many times worse..

I think he is going to be found guilty of at least some of the charges..

But, after hearing about these Jurors... It is a pretty incredible pool... Who knows..

I love his music and as an artist but hes guilty as heck!!! But waht few millions he has will get him off of the charges or doing time. We;ll jsut hve to wait and see.....

Check out the Juror profiles... Pretty wild...
From having a RSO in the family to having met MJ... I would think a lot of these people would probably give MJ a pretty good shot at appeal..?

http://www.courttv.com/trials/jackson/jurybox.html

I think MJ Is not mentally capable of performing the acts he was accused of - i feel the stories were calculated by the partents of inoccent chidlren used as a pawn in cruel money grabbing scheme! Very wrong hope he walks! In fact think he should hop with a skip : )

I to believe that these parents of these boys should have some reprecussion cuz what kind of parent lets there children sleep over at a 40 yr old house just sick. I think he is guilty and I know he will walk. Name more that 5 celebs that have been caught and serve any prison time I can't think of one. It's all about $$$$$$$ not the crime if our men had $$$$ and was in the public view they would serve no time. Think about O.J, Robert Blake etc.... all the big celebs will get off no doubt. It's sad! I will say though I couldn't believe that there was no african american on the jury so in that respect I think was very wrong.

If Michael is so innocent, why did he pay that boy $20,000,000 ten years ago? He should have demanded a trial to clear his name. You don't pay TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS if you are INNOCENT!

I'll name some celebs that did do time for their crime, Suge Knight, Tupac (RIP), Mike Tyson, Shyne and of course MARTHA STEWART, and I'm sure there are more. I don't think it matters, it's just how the cases are presented. OJ didn't get off because he had money, he got off because there were flaws in the prosecutions case. Yeah he had the money for good lawyers but so did Stewart and she served time.



I to believe that these parents of these boys should have some reprecussion cuz what kind of parent lets there children sleep over at a 40 yr old house just sick. I think he is guilty and I know he will walk. Name more that 5 celebs that have been caught and serve any prison time I can't think of one. It's all about $$$$$$$ not the crime if our men had $$$$ and was in the public view they would serve no time. Think about O.J, Robert Blake etc.... all the big celebs will get off no doubt. It's sad! I will say though I couldn't believe that there was no african american on the jury so in that respect I think was very wrong.

I think he's guilty and i doubt that he will do any time. I also think there is a pretty clear pattern here and i hope the jury has the wisdom to see it. I also believe that if he is guilty, there should be charges brought on all of the people that witnessed these occurances. Not reporting a crime is a crime in itself.

csmcgrl23 - i agree!!!

I think he'll walk...do I think he's guilty??...not sure-- but certainly guilty of making some very poor choices!

I think he will be found guilty.
But I have to say I hope not!
Of course unless he really did it. Then he desearves to pay.
I can't wait for the verdict. I have been keeping up with it on Court TV.
Peace :)

I think Michael has an unnatural interest in children, but I am not convinced he ever acted out on it inappropriately unless he admits to showing them x rated magazines. there is too much evidence the families of the kids were trying to extort money from him. He is extremely naiive and I think should have had legal advisors and listened to them. If it were me, and I had kids overnight, they would have been very separate from me, and there would have been TWO staff to watch over the kids. no sleeping in someone else's bed! I could not believe he said that on TV that time. He was asking for trouble.

I just wanted to say that I'm impressed with how cordial everyone is being in this thread! I just read through it and I was surprised that everyone is being very kind about their comments and no one is fighting.

Yay for PTO love. :)

I think MJ has acted innapproriately for American society, but if he would have been in a different culture, people would precieve it differently.

I don't think he'll be convicted.

I was waiting for someone to say something about the parents! .

"yes honey- you can go sleep in the same bed as a grown man, an eccentric multi millionaire- have fun! remember to wear clean underwear!"

RETCH!

there was a cartoon that had a jury sitting in front a lawyer who asked them to decided who was weirder, MJ or the Mom.

another witch hunt, California style. did anyone even watch the DA make the announcement that they had a warrant for MJ? SICK AND WRONG! he looked absolutely gleeful- you would think he was excited after waiting for so long to get him.

the bottom line is that they knocked it down another level to get the country further infatuated with this justice system. it's now GUILTY TIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

and regardless of how I feel whether he did it or not, you got to admit that this trickle down effect works a lot better with media propaganda than the tax breaks all the Bush cronie's got ;)

think about it.

white female 79 ADMITS that race would affect her judgement!?

holy cow.

I never thought I would say that in my life.

this case is absurd on every level.

I think the PARENTS should face charges of child endangerment... I don't know if MJ is guilty of actual molestation or not (Certainly he's guilty of Freakism in the 1st degree) , but I do know that sending your child to spend the night in the bed of an unrelated adult is just plain wrong.
I agree.

I think he will serve some time, even if a small amount.

My 2 cents -

Michael is guilty and he is going to prison. I expect a verdict Friday (June 10).

IS HE GUILTY? YES! IS HE GONNA DO TIME? NO! HE'LL BE DOING THE MOONWALK ALL THE WAY OUT OF THAT COURTHOUSE........

I don't know what the real story is but I can assure you that I would not allow my kids to sleep with any adult for any reason they gave. I don't understand the thought process behind that part of it. Anyway the other thing that gives me pause is why settle before and chose to clear my name this time. It give the appearance of the prior case being stronger maybe than this one. That was how it seemed to me. I really think it is up for grabs and could go either way.

not sure if guilty or not but there sure seems to be a lot of smoke.

I do not know if Michael Jackson is guilty ---

but those people who testified that they knew he was molesting children are darn sure guilty of not reporting it. Failure to report child molestation is very serious and there should be no "immunity from prosecution" in those cases.

Just my opinion -

just read the jurors profiles....3 out of 12 either know MJ or know someone who does..in the uk they wouldnt be allowed on the jury, i think that there is no smoke without fire!!! doubt if he will do any prison time...and the female juror who said " race will affect her judgement " should not be there!!!

I am really not sure if he is guilty this time or not. If they do find him guilty, I think the parents should be charged as Le Beau stated above with child endangerment and possibley even pandering prostitution. I actually believe if he is not convicted the parents should still faces charges of child endagerment, fraud and attempted extortion.

I think MJ is a little on the weird side but I dont think he is guilty of molesting that little boy. Do I think he will walk? Honestly no. I hope he does, but the jury doesnt seem to care to much for him so putting him away would make them happy. Yes I know Jurys are supposed to be fair but come on, if you thought MJ was guilty and were placed on the jury how easy would it be for you to forget what you thought? Exactly. The only thing I hope is that the mother doesnt get any money out of this because it will only be so long until she is at it again!

I think he is guilty and should be sent to do alot of years, in General Population. Let what he done to little boys be done to him and see if he likes it then. Oh, and yes, Neverland Ranch is being sold.
You mean, the medieval "eye for and eye" and "tooth for a tooth"? I don't know about you, but where I come from this is referred to as cruel and unusual punishment, not to mention torture. As to his ranch being sold, I do not rejoice in other people's misfortune, much less judge a person before he is convicted. Thank you.

I think MJ is a little on the weird side but I dont think he is guilty of molesting that little boy. Do I think he will walk? Honestly no. I hope he does, but the jury doesnt seem to care to much for him so putting him away would make them happy. Yes I know Jurys are supposed to be fair but come on, if you thought MJ was guilty and were placed on the jury how easy would it be for you to forget what you thought? Exactly. The only thing I hope is that the mother doesnt get any money out of this because it will only be so long until she is at it again!
His accusers have indeed demonstrated a rather uncanny knack for telling untruths, not to mention their extra-ordinary talents in extorting money through numerous, suspicious law suits. JC Penney's was minus quite a few penneys on their account, methinks. Very interesting indeed.

He will probably be acquitted on all charges. I think he will walk, but the sad part is this will send the wrong message out to any victims of child molestation. What will this do to society? This will make all victims feel like nobody will ever believe them. So why will they even report it? How many child molesters will get away with this type of behavior? How many will grow up repeating the same cycle? More than we can imagine. No treatment, no counseling, no one to turn to because the system failed. This will be a very sad situation.

Obviously, they have already sent the wrong message out. If you are a celebrity and have lots of money you don't face the same punishment. Unlike someone who is a nobody and doesn't have the money.

I hope this jury really thinks this out because children just don't make up things like this. I truly hope he is punished for destroying this childs life. No one can even imagine what this child is faced with for eternity.

I hope he is found GUILTY!!!!

I do not know if Michael Jackson is guilty ---

but those people who testified that they knew he was molesting children are darn sure guilty of not reporting it. Failure to report child molestation is very serious and there should be no "immunity from prosecution" in those cases.

Just my opinion -
I agree!!! The mother should be prosecuted for failing to protect her child. The law says, we all have a duty to protect our children and if you didn't know he was a child molester then you should have. She failed to protect her child and had it been us...they would have removed our children from the home immediately. She should also be standing trial for "Failing to Protect her Child," Neglect, and Child Endangerment.

However, I am convinced he in fact molested this child. Yeah, innocent until proven guilty. This is my opinion; I have heard plenty of evidence to convince me he is guilty. I don't need to hear innocent or guilty to change my mind. However, what mother would have trusted MJ to sleep with their child?

freedogirl here again,

i think he will do time, sorry to say. That will be sad, the day the decision comes down. I don't believe he is guilty, just in that he is so protective of his children. (Remember the masks over his children's faces?) I don't think he did most of what is being promulgated.

If Michael is so innocent, why did he pay that boy $20,000,000 ten years ago? He should have demanded a trial to clear his name. You don't pay TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS if you are INNOCENT!

amen. This creep deserves to go to jail. Preying on sick children!! With sick parents. I hope they do what is right here.

i def. think he SHOULD have got a conviction,but everyone knew he wouldn't cuz he can buy himself out of ANYTHING. You know the government is gonna and did take the millions he offered them to find him not guilty on all 10 counts.

Angel



How many think MJ will get a conviction?

I think he wont. Definately should.

i def. think he SHOULD have got a conviction,but everyone knew he wouldn't cuz he can buy himself out of ANYTHING. You know the government is gonna and did take the millions he offered them to find him not guilty on all 10 counts.

Angel

But where is the evidence? Do you really want to send this man to jail based on what these shady characters have to say? Their testimonies are less than flawless, even without considering the accuser and his mother's suspicious past. Do they even understand the meaning of the word "honor"?

YAAAAAAAAAAY!
NOT GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!

For those who think he bought his way out of this one LET'S BE REAL!!!! No matter how much $$$ he has he was still just another black man in the legal system and that is never a good place to be in.

And by the way if he could've paid his way out of this one then believe me it never would have gone to trial. They would have taken the money up front and it never would have gone that far.


MJ may be a lot of things..... BAD, Dangerous, and Invincible but one thing is for sure......

He is

NOT GUILTY!!!!!

obviously, and admittedly- Michael has a fascination with children. I personally think that he has a sickness that may not even be related to pedophelia- questionably worse yet is our fascination as a country with judging and diggin thru other ppls garbage. the judicial system in this country is now GUILTY til proven INNOCENT.

there wasn't a black juror on that jury. some said race WAS an issue to them. they sat thru this whole thing, blow by ugly obscene blow- and foudn reasonable doubt to his guilt. I personally commend them. job well done! but what's clear to me is that he has fought round one... there is still the civil venue where the bar is considerably lower.


it's pretty out of order that some wouldn't show some curtoesy to others on this board that have loved ones convicted of SO's... they are no less human and entitled to a certain amount of dignity on this board, especially! being that I assume we are here for a simliar reason....

i def. think he SHOULD have got a conviction,but everyone knew he wouldn't cuz he can buy himself out of ANYTHING. You know the government is gonna and did take the millions he offered them to find him not guilty on all 10 counts.







HonEy:

where does the govmt get cash out of this deal?

hey check out Joe Paulus on Google, tell me how this works that S**T happened 20 miles north of me- with bribes and corruption... they weeded out one and acted like it was fixed... but please tell me what you know cos- .

I could defintely stand to use the knowledge (note:sarcasm) honey please open your eyes! it ain't that simple!

I am pleased that he was found not guilty.
I watched his trial closely and reviewed every peice of evidence and not just what the media wanted to give us. To put it bluntly the proof just wasn't there.

He was not charged with being diffrent.
He was not charged with having sleep overs with boys.
He was not even charged with sleeping in the bed as children.
He was not charged with having adult pronography becuase it is legal

While I agree his behaviors were questionable they are not crimes. I commend the jury who appear to have actually reviewed the evidence and took their jobs seriously in finding the truth in the mountain of evidence they had to weigh though.

In saying that I will also say that I do believe the 20 million he spent on his defense is the reason he was found not guilty. (I believe he was regardless), but there are other black men in California charged with the same crime with less evidence then they had in the Jackson case and yet their trials are going badly for them

I also believe Jackson got lucky in having the only 12 people in California who actually weighed the evidence and did not let his race or celebrity play into it.

I do wish the press would give the normal man charged falsely a chance to get his story out to the world. But the average man is not an interntional star and sadly the world doesn't care about the average man.

I am going to copy my post from another thread here so I do not have to type it again.
But I am amazed that the jury found him non guilty. I truely didn't think they would.

Darn someone wants to know what I think about the Michael Jackson verdict. My belief is the high powered and high priced attorney managed to find the only 12 people in California who actually looked at the evidence.

I listened closely to the jury’s press conference and was amazed. They said a big thing was the credibility of the accuser and her mother.

Humm.. interesting that his accuser is not believable, yet in our case the so called accuser got up on the stand, paused to fix her hair, adjusted the microphone to ensure that she would be heard, and was even asked by the judge midway through her testimony if she understood that she had admitted to lying under oath in the preliminary hearing as well as several interviews with the police and prosecutors. But 12 people found her credible. Heck she changed her story mid way through the trial.



Next the jury stated that the time line just didn’t add up. Again I find that interesting considering there is so much evidence that blows her time line in our case. She says the first time they had intercourse was before a trip to San Diego, and that we did not leave for San Diego until early Saturday morning, but it was still dark. That is funny since we have hotel receipts as well as military records showing the latest during the time frame that we checked into San Diego was 8pm on FRIDAY. But the jury didn’t even look at that time line



I could go on and on with the similarities, with the exception of that fact my husband doesn’t invite children to sleep in our room. However it was brought up that the foster children we had always had access to our room, until it was bed time. Now I am not sure about any other parent but my biological children always came into my room as well. The rule in our home was if the door was closed you knock first, but they were permitted in the room. After all the PS2 was in there, the prosecutor in our case played that up big time that she thought it was inappropriate the children had access to their parents room. Yet again the jury in our case I guess believed this to be odd as well. I guess that makes us bad parents.



People claim his celebrity didn’t buy into the decision of the jury and I would like to believe that. However looking at their case and then looking at the lack of evidence in my husbands case and I have to wonder. If it doesn’t take 20 million dollars to prove your innocence, and all people in this country are entitled to a fair trial, then I will stand by my believe that Jackson got lucky in having the only 12 people in California who actually looked at the evidence and understands what reasonable doubt means.



Gee I wonder if we can get that same 12 people for my husband’s new trial if it is granted

"If Michael is so innocent, why did he pay that boy $20,000,000 ten years ago? He should have demanded a trial to clear his name. You don't pay TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS if you are INNOCENT!"


I agree, MiamiChica 22 - TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS (!!!!) is a heck of a load of money, especially if you're innocent ???

"If Michael is so innocent, why did he pay that boy $20,000,000 ten years ago? He should have demanded a trial to clear his name. You don't pay TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS if you are INNOCENT!"


I agree, MiamiChica 22 - TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS (!!!!) is a heck of a load of money, especially if you're innocent ???

That is easily answered.
1. Because he had no faith in the system (and he is right)
2. He was adviced to do so by his lawyer and listened. No matter what he would have done, people would have seen him as beeing guilty. I think this whole thing is stupide. If I would get taken to court for every child in my bed, gee I'd never get out of court. These days we have to see something sexual in everything and anything. And I think that is disgusting.

well i also think he will walk