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Agaveman 05-23-2005, 10:55 PM I was convicted in january of 2001 for felony possession of cocaine and meth. I have not used drugs since. I sat awhile in jail and got "off paper" in April of 2003. I live in an area with a high crime rate, and I strongly feel that I need a pistol to defend my family in case of an emergancy. Although i am not on probation/parole, i cannot own a gun since i am a felon. what can i do to protect my household? is there anything I can do to have my 2nd ammendment rights restored? I was convicted in CO, but I live in WI. any advice would be greatly appreciated!! (I know i could get a gun illegally, but I won't do that since i want to do thing completey legit and i will thus not break the law)
FriscoLady 05-24-2005, 01:00 AM You can have your civil rights restored.
I am not sure of the process whether you will have to go to CO or if you can do it from WI.
I have noticed that on the VA DOC website and the FL website that there are sections where the process is explained. I am not familar with COs, I would start there, the next thing I would do if it is not laid out on the website, I would call or write the Attorney Generals office for CO and ask the question.
I would not hold out much hope that you will get them back - the states are making it more difficult. But it can be done.
Patti
__Oct 2002________
United States v. Bean
This was a case where an actual gun dealer crossed over the border one night to have dinner in Mexico after a gun show. The Mexican police searched his car and found a box of gun shells. They charged him with smuggling ammunition into Mexico. He was arrested and put him in a Mexican jail for 5 months. He then got back to the states but now has a felony (altho it was from a foreign country they honored it) and he loses his rights to carry a gun. He applied to the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms Bureau) to get his gun rights returned. They wouldn't review his case as Congress had banned them from taking these cases. The ban was because a lot of felons were getting their guns back and committing more crimes. he had a Sheriff, a prosecuter, a Judge and a minister supporting him. He was a gun dealer and this was his employment they were taking. He went to a lower court and that Judge retuned his gun rights to him but the state appealed that decision. Then it went to the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court said the Judge was wrong to give him his gun rights back and they blocked felons from going straight to court to get their gun rights restored.
Because of this guy Mexico changed it's law decided carrying a box of shells was no longer a felony and reduced it to a misdemeanor. In 2003 Governor Perry (Texas) pardoned him. The Mexican dinner trip happened in 1998.
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Good Luck!
Wingy 05-24-2005, 04:28 AM get a dog, and make sure everyone knows yo have one...walk him frequently sit out front with him/her... the dog doesnot have to be trained, a big even a small dog can do the trick....if you have $$$ you can get one trained to protect...if your interested I can get you names of reliable tbreeders and trainers in your area...just so you know, I have a 10 year old german shepherd...he's titled in schutzhund and steady as a rock...the kids in the neighborhood come over to play with him and the older kids walk him for me...he goes everywhere with me and is welcomed there, even invited because of hisw babysitting skills. A breeder.trainer will have dogs available that maybe wouldnt make it in the sport but make wonderful home/family companions. just make sure to do your research on each breeder and bloodline...
rltjmjt 05-24-2005, 11:03 PM Pitbull's are a wonderfull way to add protection to your home. They are naturally protective and loyal, you will not have to try to make the dog mean they have very good discression on their own. Raise them with love and you will have a protector for life. When picking a pup never get the bully and don't
feel sorry for the shy one who goes off buy itself. You want to look for the dog who has a high tolerance, but can back the bully of then go on about it's buisness. This dog if raised with love will protect you and your family with it's life. This is a effective and safe alternitive to a 10 year federal sentence for possession of a firearm. :) (email removed per PTO polciy) P.S.The police HATE Pitbull's
gipsyrose 05-25-2005, 05:53 AM P.S.The police HATE Pitbull's
Yes, they do. My neighbors dog got out for about a half hour one day. One of the neighbors called the cops (cuz that's what they like to do) and after I helped get the dog on the porch and we were shutting the door, the poor dog got maced.
So yeah, cops don't like pits.
She got out cuz of one of the kids as they were leaving (carelessness), and was only trying to get back in the house to her pups. She wasn't running the neighborhood or anything. Just kept circling the house trying to find an entrance.
Agaveman, Is there someone else in the household over 18 that could get a gun licensed in their name? I don't blame you for wanting to get a gun. My neighborhood isn't so great either.
There are toy guns that look real. Check this out
http://www.infowars.com/articles/2nd_amendment/toy_gun_concerns_police.htm
Slainte 05-25-2005, 07:54 AM Agaveman, Is there someone else in the household over 18 that could get a gun licensed in their name?
Assuming it's the same in all states, a convicted felon cannot even be in a household with firearms. I know this to be true in Mass. anyways.
bailey_b 05-25-2005, 08:03 AM If you are worried that something might happen to you or your family within the neighbourhood that you reside in, why wouldn't you just move to a safer location? You can't be with every family member every minute of every day, so what good is a gun going to do?
FriscoLady 05-26-2005, 12:29 AM There are toy guns that look real. Check this out
http://www.infowars.com/articles/2nd_amendment/toy_gun_concerns_police.htm
Demi,
I don't know about other states, and I should check out Federal, but in Virginia the possession of even a toy gun is a violation. Stupid yes, but there was a guy down here in Hampton Roads that went down for it, if I remember right.
Also, there is absolutely no way I am going up against someone with a toy gun, even to try to bluff them. If you think about it, almost anything can be a weapon in a pinch, you have to be inventive from the family car to a butcher knife from the kitchen to a chair leg. Most all kitchen or bathroom cleaning chemicals to the old stand by a dog can be used in defense.
If the other guy has a gun, better to try to live to fight another day anyway. Gunplay in a home with your family near is not exactly smart, to many chances of harming a loved one over the predator.
If you have no choice and you have to go there, almost anything available in todays home can be used for defense.
Patti
gipsyrose 05-26-2005, 06:07 AM I knew felons couldn't own or possess a firearm, but didn't know they couldn't be in the same house as one. Thanks for letting me and others know about that :)
As far as moving to get away from bad areas, in my own situation, money is an issue.
I would have to not pay any of my bills and have my kids go without a lot of stuff for 2 and a 1/2 months just to save the $$ to do it. 'Just moving' really isn't as easy as it sounds for some of us :(
John S. 06-01-2005, 05:46 PM Guns and ex-cons= Jail time. PERIOD!
FriscoLady 06-01-2005, 06:16 PM Yes, this is true, but who protects us from a corrupt government? Once I have done my time, my constitutional rights should be automatically returned. Punishment should not be for a lifetime except of capital offenses. If the the government does not recognize me as a citizen then I do not recognize it's right to govern!
Someday these corrupt laws will come back to haunt those who made them.
Patti
lstreeval 06-01-2005, 07:52 PM All I know, is that my husband was with not "on paper" when he got caught with a riflle for hunting with his dad and went back to prison for 2 years. I wouldn't even take the chance.
Dude, I totally understand. Personally I have a gun conviction and can never get my cival rights restored in regards to gun issues. Additionally I am a 2tx loser with violence on my sheet. I too am off paper and living in the square world. I too live in a high crime area. Personally I aquired a aggresion trained dog that has been trained to be around myself and family. She is most loving to us and will not let anyone near our property.
tugsus 08-17-2005, 09:33 AM Unfortunately since people like you and me cannot vote (yet) the powers that be will never give us our guns rights again.
Our loved ones may NOW understand how the system works, in perpetuity, but we have to educate people and maybe that way we can change the laws.
A one to five year sentence for anything should not equal a life senctence for us when it concerns rights for everyone (except convicted felons).
I am trying to find info on bangsticks (I spearfish) for protection from sharks, but even thought ATF does NOT classify them as firearms, but I cannot legally purchase ammunition for it. Possession of ammo is the same as a firearm in Florida.
lilithinwaiting 08-19-2005, 02:46 PM I am sure you already know this but because I like to put my 2 cents in I was just thinking about other ways of protection.
I can not obtained a gun license either, which is probably a good thing with my temper but a can of hair spray( not many of us carry around hair spray), or anything flammable and a lighter will do the trick of course, it is not as fast as a gun but god, it is much more fun. A knife is always an excellent choice but then again, you must be good with one and fast. I carry a box cutter, one slice to the juggler with those and they will put the enemy to its knees in seconds. I used to have a tiny little sharp ended wire that was used for poking out the eyes but I lost it many yrs. back. A stun gun is worth the investment and I do not think they have to be licensed or do they? Good luck with your pursuit I do understand about wanting to protect your family . I live in "crack" alley and we have a lot of robberies and rapes so I have gotten to the point where I never go out after dark and that is a pitiful way to live so I keep all the home made weapons I can.
Abner 09-20-2005, 05:22 PM Many states have laws that will allow you to "expunge" or otherwise clear up a felony conviction and allow you to have a gun.
Each state is different.
You will need to find out what the laws are in the state you were convicted, and in which you presently reside.
Start with CO.
DON'T GET A GUN IN THE MEANTIME! DON'T EVEN SIGN YOUR NAME ON A PAWN TICKET FOR ONE (FED-EX, OUR FOUNDER WENT DOWN ON A FEDERAL BID FOR JUST THAT), OR OTHERWISE GET YOUR NAME ON ANYTHING TO DO WITH A GUN (I.E., DON'T LET SOMEONE BUY AMMO WITH YOUR CREDIT CARD OR CHECK). BE VERY CAREFUL.
I'd ask this question in the CO Forum:
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=135
and in Wisconsin:
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=174
Since you have a non-violent record, and (apparently) didn't go to prison, I think you have an excellent chance to get your rights restored, but you'll need to apply first.
Some states let felons do different things. Some let you vote, others don't, but will let you apply to do it again.
You need to find out: what WI's restrictions actually are based on your record: and, what, if anything, in the law of CO will allow you to expunge your convictions, and if WI will accept that.
Good luck, and send me a PM if you like.
abner
I was convicted in january of 2001 for felony possession of cocaine and meth. I have not used drugs since. I sat awhile in jail and got "off paper" in April of 2003. I live in an area with a high crime rate, and I strongly feel that I need a pistol to defend my family in case of an emergancy. Although i am not on probation/parole, i cannot own a gun since i am a felon. what can i do to protect my household? is there anything I can do to have my 2nd ammendment rights restored? I was convicted in CO, but I live in WI. any advice would be greatly appreciated!! (I know i could get a gun illegally, but I won't do that since i want to do thing completey legit and i will thus not break the law)
Abner 09-20-2005, 05:25 PM Florida's a lot harsher than other states.
Laws regarding felons' rights vary a lot from state to state. Some states let people vote when they're on probation or parole (none let you vote in prison).
In Florida, you can apply for reinstatement of civil rights, though I know it's not an easy process.
Check into getting your rights restored. You have nothing to lose.
abner
Unfortunately since people like you and me cannot vote (yet) the powers that be will never give us our guns rights again.
Our loved ones may NOW understand how the system works, in perpetuity, but we have to educate people and maybe that way we can change the laws.
A one to five year sentence for anything should not equal a life senctence for us when it concerns rights for everyone (except convicted felons).
I am trying to find info on bangsticks (I spearfish) for protection from sharks, but even thought ATF does NOT classify them as firearms, but I cannot legally purchase ammunition for it. Possession of ammo is the same as a firearm in Florida.
Abner 09-20-2005, 05:30 PM Guns and ex-cons= Jail time. PERIOD!
Not necessarily.
Even people convicted of federal crimes can get the right to carry a gun again, even though no federal law allows for expungement of convictions. I know of cases involving guards and correctional officers where just that was.
abner
BigTime 09-21-2005, 12:10 AM No state will allow a convicted felon to posess a firearm. They may get the right to vote again in some states, but not to have firearm.
e_wife03 09-21-2005, 12:20 AM http://www.vpc.org/studies/felons.htm
this is something called the relief program.. dont know if this was mentioned but hope this helps
monet420 09-21-2005, 12:24 AM I was not aware that you could gets your rights back to bare arms I think once you are a convicted felon you lost your right. But I will ask my teacher this question...
titantoo 09-21-2005, 12:45 AM I strongly feel that I need a pistol to defend my family in case of an emergancy.
I don't blame you for that opinion but frankly I think our attitude to guns is insane and there is absoultely no evidence that owning a gun makes people safer...in fact there is plenty of evidence to the contrary!
Like so many things I keep complaining about, our country, the US, is unique amonst all civilised countries on holding such insane views.
Just my opinion!
FriscoLady 09-21-2005, 02:46 AM No state will allow a convicted felon to posess a firearm. They may get the right to vote again in some states, but not to have firearm.
That is something I am going to have to tell a friend of mine, she did five years on a non violent (admittedly a non violent). She is not only a practicing lawyer now, but the .38 she keeps in her purse is definitely not a lighter. She will be really surprised that the court ruling that gave her civil rights back did not also give her the right to bear arms back, since she specifically asked for and was granted by the Judge that right.
Patti
Jonathan 09-21-2005, 02:51 AM No state will allow a convicted felon to posess a firearm. They may get the right to vote again in some states, but not to have firearm.
In Mississippi I know for a 110% fact you can receive your rights back to posess a firearm. Maybe not a pistol etc. but rifles for hunting are acceptable under certain convictions. If is a matter of going back before the judge you were sentenced under, and he has to approve the petition.
e_wife03 09-21-2005, 03:00 AM Yea and also that relief program is about that it tries to help you get your rights back ..
BigTime 09-25-2005, 09:50 PM That is something I am going to have to tell a friend of mine, she did five years on a non violent (admittedly a non violent). She is not only a practicing lawyer now, but the .38 she keeps in her purse is definitely not a lighter. She will be really surprised that the court ruling that gave her civil rights back did not also give her the right to bear arms back, since she specifically asked for and was granted by the Judge that right.
Patti
You can petition the sentencing courts to have your record expunged thus granting your civil rights back.
On a side note how can she be on the Bar if she is a convicted felon? Here in Delaware the Bar does not admit people with felon convictions.
FriscoLady 09-26-2005, 02:56 PM You can petition the sentencing courts to have your record expunged thus granting your civil rights back.
On a side note how can she be on the Bar if she is a convicted felon? Here in Delaware the Bar does not admit people with felon convictions.
That I will be honest with you, I don't know. Yet all I know is she did my appeals to the hilt and in the long run, I am so glad she did. I would still be in prison myself if my parents had not hired her.
Patti
warp1 09-27-2005, 12:13 AM Hey
I was convicted of a non violent felony ie: "making a false statement" I would be interested in anything anyone had to say about getting my right to bear arms restored.
Jim
Crstnamre 09-28-2005, 07:01 PM Yes, this is true, but who protects us from a corrupt government? Once I have done my time, my constitutional rights should be automatically returned. Punishment should not be for a lifetime except of capital offenses. If the the government does not recognize me as a citizen then I do not recognize it's right to govern!
Someday these corrupt laws will come back to haunt those who made them.
Patti
Amen.
Crstnamre 09-28-2005, 07:10 PM That is something I am going to have to tell a friend of mine, she did five years on a non violent (admittedly a non violent). She is not only a practicing lawyer now, but the .38 she keeps in her purse is definitely not a lighter. She will be really surprised that the court ruling that gave her civil rights back did not also give her the right to bear arms back, since she specifically asked for and was granted by the Judge that right.
Patti
I was under the impression you had to obtain a certificate of rehabilitation first through the county one was prosecuted in and then apply for a full pardon from the govenor to have you're rights restored. Maybe I am wrong.
darwin 09-28-2005, 09:24 PM FEDS will prosecute a covicted felon for carrying a firearm. States rights dont matter ie. medical marijuana.
FriscoLady 09-29-2005, 03:32 AM I was under the impression you had to obtain a certificate of rehabilitation first through the county one was prosecuted in and then apply for a full pardon from the govenor to have you're rights restored. Maybe I am wrong.
I am not sure how it works in California, I do know since I looked into having my rights restored that in Virginia if you have committed what is considered a violent crime you are out of luck, so I did not go further. I cannot even go in front of a court to have my rights restored anyway.
I am now trying to pursue other avenues, but since states pretty much follow each others laws, I am not sure, if I were to move to say Washington state, which I understand permits felons to vote, if Virginia could interfere with that if they wanted too. We will find out in 08 after I come off paper.
Patti
FriscoLady 09-29-2005, 03:38 AM FEDS will prosecute a covicted felon for carrying a firearm. States rights dont matter ie. medical marijuana.
I understand that and I realize that under the current situation we can do nothing, because they have the power. Someday maybe enough people will wake up that we can change it by the vote, or if absolutely necessary by force of arms, but until then I stand by my earlier statement:
"If the the government does not recognize me as a citizen then I do not recognize it's right to govern!";
and I will do everything in my meager power to insure that: "Someday these corrupt laws will come back to haunt those who made them."
Patti
Crstnamre 09-29-2005, 06:15 PM I am not sure how it works in California, I do know since I looked into having my rights restored that in Virginia if you have committed what is considered a violent crime you are out of luck, so I did not go further. I cannot even go in front of a court to have my rights restored anyway.
I am now trying to pursue other avenues, but since states pretty much follow each others laws, I am not sure, if I were to move to say Washington state, which I understand permits felons to vote, if Virginia could interfere with that if they wanted too. We will find out in 08 after I come off paper.
Patti
I just started looking into it, so I really don't know whats what regarding this issue in CA or fed. Alls I know is that after seeing what happened in N.Orleans, I want to be able to protect my family if it ever comes to that here. I will do what I gotta do.
FriscoLady 09-29-2005, 07:24 PM I just started looking into it, so I really don't know whats what regarding this issue in CA or fed. Alls I know is that after seeing what happened in N.Orleans, I want to be able to protect my family if it ever comes to that here. I will do what I gotta do.
I did what I had to do to protect my daughter, that is why I went down.
I would do it again with no hesitation to protect my children. I am not proud of what happened or the results it is just a fact, I reacted it just happened.
I was fortunate that I was not carrying at the time, if it had been several years earlier before I retired from the service, when I was still military law enforcement, things could have been far, far worse. As it was it was bad enough.
Patti
softheart 09-29-2005, 07:44 PM In Washington State you can request your rights to bear arms back a friend of mine here who was convicted of a Felony had it done. If it is a violent felony you can't and there are a whole list of things you can't. But hers was a Class B felony for theft. And she got her rights to bear arms back. In fact the reason she did it was because she hocked her husbands 22 rifle and couldn't get it out, because when running a check the Feds said no.
A few months after she went to court and had her conviction vacated and got her rights back she was able to get the gun out of hock.
You have to do two separate things in Washington, first you have your sentence vacated by a court and then you have to go to court and file your civil rights and rights to bear arms restored.
In fact if you want I can get a copy of her paperwork to file and give you the law numbers or what ever you call them.
She did have to get a hold of the State troopers and different law enforcement and they all had to have certified copies of the paperwork, so her records were sealed. The courts say they will do that, but they take forever to notify anyone.
The records aren't gone, they are just sealed and unless she comitts another crime they won't be used againist her.
bullets 10-17-2005, 03:13 PM As others have stated you cannot own a firearm or even be in possession of one. Unless you have taken the legal recourse too get your conviction vacated and civil rights restored.
Try this instead. http://www.tbotech.com/advancedtaser.htm
However Tasers are illegal i the following states: New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Michigan, Hawaii, or to the city of Philadelpha.
Tasers do work. I own one and have used it for self defense. The individual was put down in less than 1 second when I shot him with the Taser.
daisey 11-02-2005, 09:21 PM I have a friend that was convicted and served time in jail for a felony in Az. When he was released he was able to get his civil rights restored. He moved to Ca and then got hooked up in something else and ended up serving time for another felony. Will he ever be able to get his civil rights back? Thanks for any advice.
PS both crimes were non violent
bullets 11-03-2005, 11:55 PM I have a friend that was convicted and served time in jail for a felony in Az. When he was released he was able to get his civil rights restored. He moved to Ca and then got hooked up in something else and ended up serving time for another felony. Will he ever be able to get his civil rights back? Thanks for any advice.
PS both crimes were non violent
My money and my black 8 ball say "all indicators point to no."
daisey 11-06-2005, 07:55 AM Thanks Bullets:) that is what i was thinking myself
Crstnamre 11-10-2005, 08:37 AM As others have stated you cannot own a firearm or even be in possession of one. Unless you have taken the legal recourse too get your conviction vacated and civil rights restored.
Try this instead. http://www.tbotech.com/advancedtaser.htm
However Tasers are illegal i the following states: New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Michigan, Hawaii, or to the city of Philadelpha.
Tasers do work. I own one and have used it for self defense. The individual was put down in less than 1 second when I shot him with the Taser.
Tell us something we dont know.
Jonathan 11-11-2005, 01:18 AM I have a friend that was convicted and served time in jail for a felony in Az. When he was released he was able to get his civil rights restored. He moved to Ca and then got hooked up in something else and ended up serving time for another felony. Will he ever be able to get his civil rights back? Thanks for any advice.
PS both crimes were non violent
This is a state by state basis. My cousin was convicted in Louisiana in the 80's on a non-violent, served his time got out.
Got another charge in Texas, this was violent, served 12 years and got out. He got his all of his rights restored. Guns, voting, the whole nine yards.
Anything is possible with the DOC or BOP
Fed-X 11-11-2005, 12:45 PM I see some facts and a few assumptions on this... I've studied up on this since I was convicted and spent time in federal prison due to being a "Felon in Possession of a Firearm" and also because I love and have grown up around guns..
IF you have been convicted of ANY federal felony, you have permanently forfeited your right to bare or even be around firearms or explosives. There is no if-ands-or-butts to this. There is no appeals process.. You are stuck out! The ONLY way you can get around this is with a presidential pardon. Maybe one day in the future they may change the law for non-violent offenders but it is unlikely with all the government wanting to get the guns out of the hands of civilians and not to mention the anti-gun zealots who preach all the nonsense (yes, check your facts, jack! lol) about guns killing people, etc.. etc... etc.. (Another topic/thread for discussion if anyone wants to get into it)
Now, IF you have a state felony and you can get your rights fully restored, you may have a chance, BUT the feds still can charge you with Felon in Possession of a firearm if you have not gotten that felony record expunged! They probably are not going sweat you if the courts restore your rights but until you get that felony up off your back you are still in violation of federal law even if the states say you are good to go.. Federal law always trumps state law IF they want to enforce it.
So, with a state felony you have a chance... With a federal felony you are stuck out. You can get your voting rights back but not your right to bare arms.
Back to being around someone with a gun... If you are a felon, you can be charged with Possession just for being around someone else that has a firearm, even if they don't have any criminal history. This happens all the time and I was in federal prison with a guy that was doing a 15 year sentence because he was inside a girl's house when the cops kicked in the door looking for her boyfriends drugs. They found a shotgun and since he had a criminal record that was pretty thick, they charged him and he did 10 years in the feds before his appeal was heard. This is called 'constructive possession'. It pretty much gets down to whether the felon has the ability to get to the firearm that is in close proximity.
In the case mentioned above, he was a first time guest in that house and did not even know of the existence of the shotgun in question, but it took 10 years of his life (probably more) to even get back into court because everyone said he didn't know jack about the gun and it was his first time to that house...
Sure, if he didn't have all the prior drug convictions (etc) he probably would not have been jacked with like this but the bottom line guys (and gals) is that if you have any felony on your record you better look at a firearm (ANY TYPE) as a King Cobra coiled up and ready to strike you.. Get away from it..
I went to prison because I pawned the family deer rifle that my state probation officer had given me permission to go hunting with for years before.. The only thing I was aware of is that I could not purchase a gun. I didn't know I couldn't keep what I had. Heck, I had Glocks, a .44 Mag that I hunted with because Rifles are for the blind and unsporting.. Heck, I had been pulled over a number of times for speeding on the way to West Texas and the cops always talked about what fine weapons they were, etc..
I have no crimes of violence on my record and never ever carried a weapon when I was breaking the law in the past (convictions that later got me the federal charge). I have a very healthy respect for firearms but that is not even considered when you are charged. They simply don't care.. I pawned the rifle and the ATF came and got it after I tried to get it out. They never even caught me in physical possession of the rifle! I wanted to fight it but my lawyer, and ex-AUSA, told me that the chances of beating it were slim to none and if I lost they would try to hang me over it. My signing a pawn ticket constituted constructive possession.
Remember, Uncle Sam cares even if Johnny Law back home doesn't..
Fed-X 11-11-2005, 01:00 PM With regards to Tasers... I've been looking into this option but the really good one is about a grand! Heck, that is twice as much as the average Glock but it is legal here and Laurie does outside sales and part of her territory is pretty rough.. I'd feel better with her having that and having it in the house to incapacitate any intruder who might have a weapon long enough for me to disarm him and then go to town on them. (He'll wish I had shot him when I get done with anyone doing a B&E at my place)
renaissanceman 12-13-2005, 01:23 PM how about getting ur right to vote back
Jonathan 12-13-2005, 04:56 PM The right to vote on a state levels can be granted by the court that sentenced you. However I am not sure on a federal level.
hvymetalcowboy 02-01-2006, 09:05 AM Buy a dog.A nice cain corso or pit.Get better locks.Put an alarm system in.Move.But guns are no longer the answer for you.I,ve lived in some pretty wild places since I,ve been out and I had to handle bussiness old school way,works for me.If you have a gun sooner or later you,ll use it or get caught or someone will use it on you.My PO let me hunt with a shotgun in Michigan when I lived there but I got rid of it when I moved away.Take martial arts,act crazy in your front yard,anything but get a gun.It,s nothing but trouble.Plus,it sounds like you want one just in case,that,s not going to help you if you get busted.
Clifford1 02-02-2006, 12:20 AM A gun is going to make you feel all that much safer? Nobodies after you. They don't care about you. It's probably the years of doing meth that's made you paranoid. Realize that and get over it. You don't have to own a gun to feel safe in the world. What are you afraid of? I have 2 more years to go on a restraining order that some spiteful dude placed against me. It forbids me to own any fire arms. Do I care? HELL NO! And WHY? Because I don't walk around with fear in my life. Get over your fear man. Think what it's doing to your family.
I was convicted in january of 2001 for felony possession of cocaine and meth. I have not used drugs since. I sat awhile in jail and got "off paper" in April of 2003. I live in an area with a high crime rate, and I strongly feel that I need a pistol to defend my family in case of an emergancy. Although i am not on probation/parole, i cannot own a gun since i am a felon. what can i do to protect my household? is there anything I can do to have my 2nd ammendment rights restored? I was convicted in CO, but I live in WI. any advice would be greatly appreciated!! (I know i could get a gun illegally, but I won't do that since i want to do thing completey legit and i will thus not break the law)
Heather78 02-13-2006, 04:23 PM Many states have laws that will allow you to "expunge" or otherwise clear up a felony conviction and allow you to have a gun.
Each state is different.
You will need to find out what the laws are in the state you were convicted, and in which you presently reside.
Start with CO.
DON'T GET A GUN IN THE MEANTIME! DON'T EVEN SIGN YOUR NAME ON A PAWN TICKET FOR ONE (FED-EX, OUR FOUNDER WENT DOWN ON A FEDERAL BID FOR JUST THAT), OR OTHERWISE GET YOUR NAME ON ANYTHING TO DO WITH A GUN (I.E., DON'T LET SOMEONE BUY AMMO WITH YOUR CREDIT CARD OR CHECK). BE VERY CAREFUL.
I'd ask this question in the CO Forum:
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=135
and in Wisconsin:
http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=174
Since you have a non-violent record, and (apparently) didn't go to prison, I think you have an excellent chance to get your rights restored, but you'll need to apply first.
Some states let felons do different things. Some let you vote, others don't, but will let you apply to do it again.
You need to find out: what WI's restrictions actually are based on your record: and, what, if anything, in the law of CO will allow you to expunge your convictions, and if WI will accept that.
Good luck, and send me a PM if you like.
abner
I haven't read the entire thread so if anybody else answered I appoligize but here is who can have their records expunged:
http://www.uslegalforms.com/lawdigest/expungement-criminal-records-law.php/CO/CO-EXP.htm
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