I was just starting a thread so you guys can post your thoughts, etc, update on how you're doing with your man. I hope all of you are hanging in there and staying strong (I posted this in here since my guy's on DR). Or how you're doing in general..

I think it is a great idea. Bobby and I will be getting married in a matter of weeks now, but it is still really hard. I had a read bad weekend and cried hard several times. I guess I never could have thought it would have been this hard (talk about going into it blind huh?) but that doesn't change the way I feel about him and I won't let that ruin our time.

GENO AND I ARE DOING GREAT..STAYING STRONG AS ALWAYS..WE ARE TO BE MARRIED IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS MAYBE NOT THAT LONG BUT WE HAVENT GOTTEN THE DATE YET..WE ARE BOTH SO HAPPY ABOUT IT..I BEEN OUT OF WORK FOR A WEEK NOW B/C I BEEN A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER BUT OTHER THAN THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING GREAT AND I'M LOVING THIS MAN WITH ALL MY HEART..FOR LIFE.:p

I just spent 2 wonderful weeks visiting him :D
We had 4 special 4 hour visits, and a Saturday night visit. He is in county now waiting for a resentencing trial, and I pray I never have to visit him again there!!!

Had a tricky morning; cried in the bath until it nearly overflowed.
Wish this would get easeir.

Rach
I know you cry for D, but you have so much strength girl, you are there for them all even at midnight :D
You have given me alot of strength to cope these past few weeks, and I just wanted to give you a big (((((HUGS)))))) and tell you we are here for you as well as you are here for us!!

i think this is a great idea bobby we are still as strong as ever we were together 4 years yesterday got a lovely anniversary card

JoJo and GENO- Congrats on your upcoming weddings!

Kyla-Best of luck while your guy goes through his resentencing hearing.

ladyarkles-I hope you feel better soon. It's not easy loving someone on Death Row, but keep up your stength. It will get better.

sharonno1-congrats on your anniversary

My husband and I are doing really wonderful. :) It gets so unbelievably hard at times :( but our strong love for each other and faith in God helps us through the very difficult times. It's definitely not an easy life, loving someone on death row...but you can't help where your heart is.

Jojo, wow congrats!! A friend of mine used to write to Bobby...I can't believe ya'll are getting married! That is awesome though, congratulations!! ;)

Thanks! Yeah I can't believe it either. It is looking like it will be June 10th. I just hope I have all the things I need for the proxy wedding by that point!

Me and Shonelle just had an anniversary and we are doing great!!! Congratulations to everyone on their relationships!!!:)

freedogirl here, another day, feeling a bit more alive:

I thought I'd post a poem I wrote after one visit with my baby on the Row:

Poetry Before The Word

You watched me walk
Out and away from you,
You saw the tears brimming and they would have fallen
If your arms had not embraced me inside.
They fell when the cold air hit my face, and the embrace was but a memory.

You tapped, and I turned in your direction
To the dark window.
All I could see was your hand. I imagined your smile.
I wondered if you saw my tears
Spilling, traveling to the cold pavement
Where my heart had fallen
When the tears began

You watched me walk
Out and away from you
You saw my tears.

Did you feel my longing?


This is another poem:


My sweet friend,
In a moments eternity
you & I
Part
Never to whisper
like wind
Of shadowy dreams
so haunting,
and yet
Sleep is but solace
A bitter journey to mother sun

Vision

okay, I'm out,

freedogirl

Freedogirl
Thanks so much for sharing, they are both beautiful :)

Hello all. I just got back from visting my love on DR and I have never had to do anything harder than leave him and fly across the atlantic back home. I think I must have sone that while in a daze. I have never felt the strength of our love as I did during the last visit. We spent the whole time looking into eachothers eyes and just feeling the strength of our love. I find it so hard to be home and I miss him so very very much. At this point I have to focus on my life without him but every day i remind myself that in September hopefully we will see eachother again. How do you all do it.........there is so much strength in all of your words.........I hope I can learn to face up to this separation because some moments it all feels like too much to bear. :( :( :(

We got some bad news last week, the Supreme Court denied Bobby's cert. So now we have our last shot with the 5th and that is due is Sept (with that new judge that was just confirmed)

Butterflydazzel
Hello all. I just got back from visting my love on DR and I have never had to do anything harder than leave him and fly across the atlantic back home. I think I must have sone that while in a daze. I have never felt the strength of our love as I did during the last visit. We spent the whole time looking into eachothers eyes and just feeling the strength of our love. I find it so hard to be home and I miss him so very very much. At this point I have to focus on my life without him but every day i remind myself that in September hopefully we will see eachother again. How do you all do it.........there is so much strength in all of your words.........I hope I can learn to face up to this separation because some moments it all feels like too much to bear.

I totally know how you feel. I visited April/May, and I am in Australia, and came home, and cried for a week, I was so depressed, it was so hard to get back into things again, and leaving him was one of the hardest things I have had to do. But as Softie said to me, focus on the good things, and getting back there. That helped me alot, and now I am setting goals for myself to get there as soon as I can. I was fortunate enough to have an advantage, where he was moved to county, and I get to talk to him on the phone. ((((hugs)))) I have been where you are at, if you ever need to talk, I am just a PM away!!!! We find strength through each other.


jojo29
We got some bad news last week, the Supreme Court denied Bobby's cert. So now we have our last shot with the 5th and that is due is Sept (with that new judge that was just confirmed)

Jojo, you and Bobby will be in my thoughts and prayers, for a positive outcome. Never give up, and keep the fight!!! (((hugs))))

We got some bad news last week, the Supreme Court denied Bobby's cert. So now we have our last shot with the 5th and that is due is Sept (with that new judge that was just confirmed)

can you request a different judge? or is that not an option?

I am praying for you, Jojo!

Billijo
can you request a different judge? or is that not an option?

I am praying for you, Jojo!

You can recuse a judge on the case, but thats normally in state court, and there needs to be a valid reason why that judge cannot sit on the case fairly. If the judge has never looked at the case before, you cant recuse him. I know of an instance, where a judge has been recused from a Death Penalty case, as he was the DA before he was made a judge, that was involved in the case before he became a judge. Circumstances like that you can change the judge.
I agree though, I pray for a positive outcome in Bobbys case.

[QUOTE=Kyla]I totally know how you feel. I visited April/May, and I am in Australia, and came home, and cried for a week, I was so depressed, it was so hard to get back into things again, and leaving him was one of the hardest things I have had to do. But as Softie said to me, focus on the good things, and getting back there. That helped me alot, and now I am setting goals for myself to get there as soon as I can. I was fortunate enough to have an advantage, where he was moved to county, and I get to talk to him on the phone. ((((hugs)))) I have been where you are at, if you ever need to talk, I am just a PM away!!!! We find strength through each other.



Thanks so much Kyla. It means a lot to know that there is someone there to cry with because at the moment things feel really difficult and I am so terribly depressed despite the letters of encouragement he sends.

((Hugs))

Kyla and BillieJo,

I was talking about Pricillia Owens (I think that is spelt right). THere was that big brewhaha in the Senate about the vote on confirming her nomination by the Pres. She is so pro it is not even funny. And I don't think we have a choice on the matter with appeals. Thank you both so much for your kind words. It has been a really hard time.

Oh and has everyone heard that there is no power in Polunsky because of the storms?

This love we share has taught me a patience i never would have imagined having, my love for this man is the strongest emotion i have ever experienced. i open each letter as if it were my first, when i see his phone call on my caller id, my heart flutters, to quote freddie jackson "Just Like the First Time". to be apart from him is difficult to imagine a life without him is unthinkable. whatever we lack in normalcy we gain in commitment. who knew?

hello bobby things are going great and im so excited i have booked my flight and hotel and im coming over at last on oct 18 th to meet my hun at last we are so both excited about our meeting im more nervous about arriving in the usa on my own strange country and all so if any body has any information or advice would love to hear from u

we doing great and at last we are going to meet after 4 years im arriving in the usa on 18 th oct hotel booked flight booked visiting is booked im so excited and my emotions are flying every where lol

Why is it I get the feeling I am the only guy on here with a woman on death row?


I know I'm outnumbered... but come on.


Anyway... on the topic... things are good

Natas welcome to PTO :D
We are glad to have you here, think about all the women "advice" you will be able to get :D
I am glad things are going good.

Welcome to PTO Nadas.

Maybe you can offer your perspective on what it's like to have a relationship the opposite way...

sharonno1-congrats on your visit! hope you have a good one.

I hate guards today....aarrgghh.

@ Natas, I'm sorry to hear that your woman is on DR, we all know what you go through though, there is no difference in that, it sucks :(
If you need to talk just pm

@Javlin..what is FIAA? I don't mean to sound goofy or ignorant, I was just wondering what it is.

Fighting Incarceration with Appeals and Alternatives :D

Natas welcome to PTO and to the DP forums. Man or Woman you will find alot of Love and Support here.

Sorry I am so late to this thread, somehow I missed it :(

softie

CONGRATULATIONS on your upcoming visit Sharon :yay:

You will have to let us know how it goes.

softie

Thanks for all the welcomes.

Right now... things are ok. The mail is incredibly slow, but it's always something. It's tough to explain what got us together... even tougher to explain what keeps us together. But to be honest... nothing ever felt more right.

Our "relationship" may not be of the conventional sort... but she is the first person I have truely clicked with.

Thanks again guys.

I'm not used to explaining our relationship in text.

Feels strange to do... but appropriate.

natas ugh slow mail I hate it, but it is a regular thing.

You don't have to explain anything, you know what is in your heart and I can feel the Love when I read your words.

I am happy you have joined us.

softie :wave:

Natas-slow mail happens all the time to me. My letters to him get there within a day and his letters to me take two-three. It sounds like you have a lot of love, which is a great thing!
Again, welcome to PTO.

Oh yea. Update: I'm working on getting legally married, although my other half considers us "married" already. He sent me a ring...which was a suprise.

Hope everyone's doing well.

Thanks Javlin-FIAA makes sense to me now.

Danip :yay: on the marriage congratulations on the ring.

You will have to let us know when the date is.

CONGRATULATIONS

softie

I have a dear, dear friend on DR; he seems to be doing real good these days, and for that, I am grateful. Our friendship is stronger than ever. He thanks me in every letter for my love and support; but if only I could get him to understand that he lifts me up way more than I lift him up! I am so blessed to have him in my life.

You are all such a strong group - keep the faith!

I VISITED MY GUY @THE POLUNSKY UNIT FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST MONTH. I KNEW SEEING HIM WOULD BREAK MY HEART... :o IT DID, I CRIED A WEEK.

rlewis isn't it amazing how most of the time are friends lift our spirits. I know here they are on DR in the worst of the worst conditions and they just light me up. I feel just like you I am so blessed to have them in my life.

softie

Manola's aww honey I know how hard it is to leave them. All though it was hard I am so happy that you two got to visit. I hope you had a good visit.

Hugsss
softie

Kyle--you're definitely not the only one! For several reasons I cannot speak freely of my love and her situation, but we know how we feel about each other and our hearts and souls will be joined for as long as we both breathe, and hopefully beyond. Someday, perhaps we will be able to be more open about our feelings for each other, but for the moment they might cause trouble for her. This is definitely not the easiest life course to follow.....but we all know what we hope and dream of, and if even a part of our dreams comes true, it will be a delight no "ordinary" couple can ever know.

Do feel free to write if you have questions or comments. Please just keep in mind that my answers may be a bit vague due to the conditions mentioned above.

Sure do wish I had one of those funky icons so many on this forum have....the sentiments are there, I assure you.

Dvae you can go to our siggy forum and we have many wonderful siggy artists who would be more then happy to make you any kind of graphic you would like.

http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=205

softie

The mail is so incredibly slow, i'm supposed to be getting a letter in about...2-3 days. :) Our relationship is going strong, hes been locked up since 3 months after his 18th birthday. Its so incredibly refreshing to finally find someone who is honest, intelligent, incredibly handsome, AND humourous.

My dear one has had some bad news from her attorneys. Not entirely unexpected, but still....the state is enacting a law designed almost specifically for her situation which limits appeals and bars some entirely.

She does not yet have a "date", but that is now one large step closer. In so many terrible ways, this is somewhat like watching a loved one fall ill with a most likely terminal illness. Except that I cannot be with her to hold and comfort her....I'd like to be able to so much....

What can one do but try to put the essence of a warm embrace into every letter? I worked for some years as a freelance writer, but of all the assignments I even completed, this one, self-assigned and gratefully so, seems likely to be the most difficult I shall ever encounter.

Hi!

Thank you for asking. :)

How are you doing?

"we" are doing great - just beginning to develop into something even more beautiful than the friendship we started of with.
I have an exam in a month or so - but that's cool.
Can wait to get a job - so I can make some money - and go for a VISIT!! :)

I was just starting a thread so you guys can post your thoughts, etc, update on how you're doing with your man. I hope all of you are hanging in there and staying strong (I posted this in here since my guy's on DR). Or how you're doing in general..

Friends4ever-
Congrats on developing your relationship..I hope you can get a visit soon.

Thanks :)

My dear one has had some bad news from her attorneys. Not entirely unexpected, but still....the state is enacting a law designed almost specifically for her situation which limits appeals and bars some entirely.

She does not yet have a "date", but that is now one large step closer. In so many terrible ways, this is somewhat like watching a loved one fall ill with a most likely terminal illness. Except that I cannot be with her to hold and comfort her....I'd like to be able to so much....

What can one do but try to put the essence of a warm embrace into every letter? I worked for some years as a freelance writer, but of all the assignments I even completed, this one, self-assigned and gratefully so, seems likely to be the most difficult I shall ever encounter.

I am so sorry that you have received bad news. It is a helpless feeling, but remember to share your love for each other.

I will keep both you and your loved one in my thoughts and prayers.

softie

Hi!

Thank you for asking. :)

How are you doing?

"we" are doing great - just beginning to develop into something even more beautiful than the friendship we started of with.
I have an exam in a month or so - but that's cool.
Can wait to get a job - so I can make some money - and go for a VISIT!! :)

Friends4ever

I am so glad that the two of you are developing your relationship.
Good luck on your exam and I know you are anxious to get a job so you can visit. That will be wonderful.

:) Those words really warmed my heart :)

You are absolutely right about the job - I'm trying to get a part time job since I'm still in school.
One of my friends are starting up a store and she asked me if I would do some modeling for her - don't know how much money there's in that - but we'll see.
And I have just put my CV on to a national job database. :)

Have a great week-end, XXXXXXXXXX, Anne-Kathrine

Oh, we're both hanging in there--and most definitely not giving up! If I wind up as one of the "waiting for forever" folks, it will not tempt me to turn away from my friend or my feelings in every way. After all, if there is a forever, we'll see each other sooner or later, and if there isn't....perhaps we're all in a sense on Death Row. I prefer to believe in the former.

You know what scares me? The authorities almost certainly know the identity of the true perpetrator of the crime for which this dear lady is under a death sentence, and are not making the slightest effort to pursue the matter. In all likelihood, her appeals will be exhausted in a year when either a Republican governor or a Republican president will want to maintain the status quo, so no help can be expected from that quarter. How is one supposed to feel when you come to realize that a beautiful human life only has value if it will bring in votes?

I suppose I'll get used to the whole idea....but right now I can't imagine losing her....I just can't.

DaveMoff- I sincerely hope you continue your battle for justice. The situation you described happens ALOT in the capital punishment system, and in our courts. Our justice system is flawed, and almost always, never fair. How far along is she in the appeals process? I hope you don't mind me asking. For now, though, just continue to be there for her. I don't blame you for being scared-the "authorities" want to get their cases solved as soon as possible.

A how are you doing note: I hope all of you are doing well, and that everything is going well. I just got a two-day visit with my fiance because where he's at and in Florida the holidays allow for you to get two days instead of the regular weekend visit.

Without getting into too many details, she is still involved in the state appeals process. One appeal is in progress, another, possibly of far greater importance, has not yet been filed. As I understand it (am waiting for clarification at the moment) a new law will apparently prevent the filing of that appeal or any further efforts to present evidence of her innocence (this evidence exists, and new testing methods not available at the time of conviction will almost certainly clear her name if permitted.

How can one call a system just which deliberately blocks someone's attempt to prove that they are not guilty of any crime, let alone a capital offense?

Neither she nor I will give up--never. We both knew when we became acquainted that our acquaintance might well have a sad ending, and we accepted and accept it. We did not expect to become as close as we have....maybe that makes it more difficult. We do not run the world, and can only trust that The One Who Knows All will run it with wisdom and compassion.

Let me correct the above somewhat: the problem is at the Federal, rather than state, level. Under the "Streamlined Procedures Act of 2005" presently pending in Congress, the Federal right of Habeus Corpus would essentially be denied to all prisoners, including those on death row. This will, without question, lead to the continued imprisonment and execution of innocent people. Even those with evidence of innocence in hand will no longer be allowed to present it in court. If a prosecutor has lied in court or hidden "Brady material" (an increasingly common practice)--too bad, you won't be able to do anything about it.

Apparently, our government no longer cares who is locked up or executed as long as they keep the beds full and the death chambers busy. I can think of no other explanation.

The House and Senate versions of this measure are HR 3035 and S. 1088, respectively. I cannot urge everyone strongly enough to get in touch with their Congressional delegations immediately and let them know what you think of this potential removal of a cornerstone of Constitutional law. Tell your friends and family to do the same....please. If you need more details, simply Google "Streamlined Procedures Act" and you should come up with more than you could ever want. This is terrible.

I am posting in here rather than starting a new thread...I seriously need a hug. I've been feeling angry and depressed lately...although it has nothing to do with my other half. I just am. Maybe it's because I'm trying to quit smoking and it's NOT working...or because I have a pile of homework to do...or because this moron in my theory class called me "dumb" because I said there was no such thing as "pragmatism sociology"-and what the h-ll is that anyway? He also proceeded to say that I didn't belong in college or my major. I'm graduating this semester and I shouldn't care what he thinks but I couldn't help it.

Also, I hope everyone else is doing well....I'll get over this b.s. sometime this week.

Danip...Ignore the idiot in class, you dont need that kind of negative energy. Im with you on homework, I have a paper due Tuesday and 6 chapters to read. THink Ive started any of it? Nope, just sitting here writing my man instead. Im sure I'll start panicking on Monday night. Oh, Im in the process of quitting smoking as well. This is my LAST pack! I bought the patch and Im starting the quitting process tomorrow. Hang in there, we can do this!

No one has the right to speak to you like That !!! THAT'S TOTALLY DUMB !

I am posting in here rather than starting a new thread...I seriously need a hug. I've been feeling angry and depressed lately...although it has nothing to do with my other half. I just am. Maybe it's because I'm trying to quit smoking and it's NOT working...or because I have a pile of homework to do...or because this moron in my theory class called me "dumb" because I said there was no such thing as "pragmatism sociology"-and what the h-ll is that anyway? He also proceeded to say that I didn't belong in college or my major. I'm graduating this semester and I shouldn't care what he thinks but I couldn't help it.

Also, I hope everyone else is doing well....I'll get over this b.s. sometime this week.

((((((((((((((((((HUGE HUG))))))))))))))))))))

Sometimes things just build up and get to us. Just ignore the person in class. You know who you are and you are a wonderful person. Sometimes people like them just need to try and make others look or feel bad, just to make themselves feel better. (Their Idiots)

I know many people who have tried to quit smoking and it hasn't worked, They just keep trying again until it does work. It is a very hard addiction to break, so you aren't alone honey.

Your graduating this semister...... :yay: :dance: :grouphug::yes: :wave: :clap: :hifive: :rock:
That in itself is a great accomplishment, CONGRATULATIONS.

Just know you are a wonderful person and you are loved and cared for.

I hope that things are getting better for you.

Hugssss
softie

Things are looking up considerably for her now....her first Federal hearing cleared away roadblocks that have been maintained by the state of Texas for nearly a decade. The details must remain private for now, but suffice it to say that the means to prove her innocence are now well within reach and will almost certainly receive a proper hearing.

It will take time, and it will take money, but when I consider that this past autumn we were both certain we would be saying goodbye about a year from now, a miracle is coming, and perhaps in a similar amount of time, we will be sharing a "hello" we once hardly dared to imagine. If indeed either of us can get that much out before we hug the stuffing out of each other.

Things are looking up considerably for her now....her first Federal hearing cleared away roadblocks that have been maintained by the state of Texas for nearly a decade. The details must remain private for now, but suffice it to say that the means to prove her innocence are now well within reach and will almost certainly receive a proper hearing.

It will take time, and it will take money, but when I consider that this past autumn we were both certain we would be saying goodbye about a year from now, a miracle is coming, and perhaps in a similar amount of time, we will be sharing a "hello" we once hardly dared to imagine. If indeed either of us can get that much out before we hug the stuffing out of each other.

This is wonderful DaveMoff, I hope this will be great news. You and her both will be in my thoughts and prayers.
Please keep us updated as much as you can. I do understand you can't go in to details.

I will be so excited when you come to us and tell us she has been exonerated. We will all celebrate that day with you.

softie

On the day she is free I shall raise the word to the mountaintops, as will many others. But yes, I'll be sure to post a few words here.

It is my belief that, once all of the omissions, errors, and outright corruption in this case are made public, it may well mark the beginning of the end for capital punishment in the United States. Speed the day.

On the day she is free I shall raise the word to the mountaintops, as will many others. But yes, I'll be sure to post a few words here.

It is my belief that, once all of the omissions, errors, and outright corruption in this case are made public, it may well mark the beginning of the end for capital punishment in the United States. Speed the day.


I hope that you are right. We so badly need to see the end of capital punishment.:thumbsup:

Closing this thread as it is so old!! :D

New "how are you doing?" to be found here Softie's Winter Warmer (http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234579)