View Full Version : Planning to leave the country after probation
watuhmelonz 05-03-2005, 09:02 AM After someone who has been through the federal system is done with probation and is "free" are we allowed to leave the country?
When I am done with my probation, I am planning to leave this country and hopefully never come back. I may have been born here, but I refuse to die here.
The stigma is too much to deal with, and I am looking at other countries that:
1) have less stringent laws in comparison to the U.S.
2) are more accepting of ex-cons re-entering society than the U.S.
I have done some research into a few different countries that fit this catagory, and I am wondering if anyone else has or has known someone who has done the same.
I'm working on it right now - several of the former USSR places are good. What have you found?
Phil in Paris 05-03-2005, 09:19 AM I'm working on it right now - several of the former USSR places are good.
Just out of curiosity, which ones are you thinking of ??? Keep in mind there is almost no work in those countries.
Phil
watuhmelonz 05-03-2005, 09:26 AM I'm working on it right now - several of the former USSR places are good. What have you found?
My picks so far, in order of preference, are:
1) Ireland
2) Belgium
3) Sweden
4) New Zealand
My picks pertain to unemployment mostly. However, I know finland has the most relaxed laws; from what I've read no one has ever spent more than 14 years in prison there, even for the most atrocious crime(s). Ireland has an unemployment rate of virtually zero. Belgium is in desperate need of computer specialists. Sweden for their relaxed laws. New Zealand because I like the landscape.
I was only sentanced to probation for my lone stupid-teenager white-collar crime, but it has been enough experience for me to understand, after exploring the avenues of possibilities post-conviction, that the United States is no longer the home of the free.
I would die just to have the chance to go lay in a grassy field somewhere with the sun shining, and not have to worry about some military-style swat team coming for me ever again.
Phil in Paris 05-03-2005, 09:39 AM 1) Ireland
2) Belgium
3) Sweden
My picks pertain to unemployment mostly.
If I may say something. :D
I think you're doing it the wrong way. You should FIRST look for the European countries which are the most permissive about immigration. You can not just go to Europe and settle down just like that.
If you can get a resident card from one of the EU countries, you can then settle down and work anywhere you wish within the EU.
Just a thought and good luck. :)
Phil
Phil in Paris 05-03-2005, 09:44 AM Just in case you don't know what are the 25 countries of the UE, here they are :)
Austria
Belgium
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Poland
Portugal
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
The Netherlands
United Kingdom
Phil
watuhmelonz 05-03-2005, 09:49 AM If I may say something. :D
If you can get a resident card from one of the EU countries, you can then settle down and work anywhere you wish within the EU.
Just a thought and good luck. :)
Phil
Yep, this has been my first plan of action. But as of this point, i have about 17 months of probation left, which is why i'm starting my plan now. I expect it to take lots of paperwork, phone calls, time, and money. If it takes less than three years for me to accomplish my goal once I'm off of probation , I will consider myself to be ahead of schedule. =)
watuhmelonz 05-03-2005, 10:02 AM I would like to know if anyone has made the move to migrate to another country with a felony on their record and details of such.
thanks
Please think about something - before my arrest I DID live all over the world and while it may seem we have it tough here even the best of places have their downsides.
My wanting to leave has nothing to do with my arrest or how I was treated. I did the crime and I did the time - I can in no way blame the Feds because it was ME that broke the law.
c_778 05-03-2005, 10:31 AM question.... can you get your passport AFTER your sentence or probation? in Federal?
MiamiChica22 05-03-2005, 10:49 AM You can get a passport once your time "on-paper" has expired with no problem. You can get one while you are still "on-paper" but need permission from your probation officer via a letter. As Phil mentioned, getting out of the US is not a problem; however, attaining a visa to emigrate to another country as a convicted felon is not so easy. Some countries won't even allow convicted felons to visit, much less emigrate.
Do you mean after you've finish all of that? Yes, but some countries deny you permission to enter.
c_778 05-03-2005, 11:49 AM WOW!! thinking of going to Thailand.. there you have all you need !! just make sure you have like 10 thousand america dollars and yo uwill be set for a few years with a few ladies by your side.. hehehehe
remiella 05-03-2005, 12:19 PM Hi
I feel your bitterness. Here is a suggestion. Get your passport now. All you need is to tell your parole officer that you are planning to travel abroad. If you can afford it make plans to visit a country of your choice. Most European countries do not have any restrictions for ex-felons. I know my native Greece is wide open to all people. If you do travel ask permission from your parole officer and write a letter for permission to your sentencing judge. I personally traveled to Europe 4 times while on probation.
Peace
c_778 05-03-2005, 01:11 PM can not friend had tosurrender passport.. going in as a SO for internt CP and pending trail
skychickFL 05-03-2005, 02:58 PM We're thinking about taking off after hubby finishes probation too. I'm just SICK of it here. Then again, the grass isn't always greener on the other side. You have to think about unemployment, cost of living, being away from your family, and, of course, language.
I'm Spanish, and mys husband can go there because he's married to a Spanish citizen. However, I don't know how easy it is for a felon to emigrate to another European contry. However, with an american passport, you can go anywhere in Europe, without a visa, and stay for 3 months.
c_778 05-03-2005, 04:16 PM 3 months . WOW . well i think going to mexico is GREAT. the food is good and if you have the money now to save . when y ou get there you will not have to worry about work for serveal years.. by then you will have thought of ways to make $$ later
notmytime 05-03-2005, 06:06 PM I wonder if one was sentenced in US Federal court for S.O. offence's would that show up on Immigration computers in foreign country (INTERPOL ect ect )
NMT
c_778 05-04-2005, 09:42 AM do not know . i do not think so but i could be wrong... ANYONE????
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