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tebkrg
03-23-2003, 10:53 AM
I am going to share a few thoughts to highlight some of the issues that we – as gay men - face outside the walls. Some of this is a condensed version of my own personal experience and perspective. The inside perspective will follow soon. I have decided to share the few paragraphs below before moving into the discussion of the challenges a gay couple face dealing with the prison system so that you can better understand the inherent challenges that we face daily – with or without the prison system.

Not to start too far back, but as a gay man, I have encountered a great deal of adversity, prejudice, and hate through my years. I don’t consider myself an overtly gay stereotypical figure to the point that I should have been targeted with prejudice, but it has happened. As a gay man you are a minority that is judged and discriminated against. I personally, at this time in my life don’t care who knows, except when it will have a negative effect on my future, success and/or happiness. At this point in my life I don’t choose to look for conflict but rather attempt to live a quiet life with someone that I love. As a gay man I have been passed over for promotions at work that I was more than qualified for – only because ‘the boss’ doesn’t want a gay man in the role. Some men and women alike, will all of a sudden act differently in your presence once they find out for certain that you are gay. People are on a ‘need to know’ quest for this information always. I just don’t understand sometimes why we are the talk around the water cooler – who cares anyway? I sure don’t care who you choose to love. I have been attacked on the streets by ‘bashers’ and have had more than my share of insults and derogatory words hurled in my direction. I know what it is like to be discriminated against, silently and overtly. I don’t care who you are or how strong you claim to be – discrimination hurts.

Most of us build walls and grow a thick skin. I am not an activist but I am sure glad that there are gay activists out there that have taken on the cause. My life is certainly better for it. The world is changing and becoming more and more accepting – but still the hate exists. Why? That is too deep of a question, but some of the worst offenders offering up ‘hate’ need to assess what is worse – my lifestyle choice or their open ignorance and hate?

There is that word… “Choice”. We call being gay a lifestyle choice. Is it a choice? No. I was born this way. No one would choose to go through the pain that I have been through in my life if it was a simple ‘choice’ to change. No study will ever convince me that I have - or had - a choice in this matter. No study will ever convince me that I was ‘recruited’ or ‘impressioned’ at a young age. From my earliest memories, I was different. And the worst part of this was, I was always under the impression that my feelings were wrong - although my parents and immediate social surroundings never taught me this. My feelings had to be hidden. I had to hide. Where did these feelings come from? Well, the fact that I did not have a role model to justify my feelings was one source of my grief. Everything around me was different from my own thoughts and feelings. Nothing equated to the way that I felt. Grow up, fall in love (with a woman), have children and live the dream! None of this made sense to me. None of it. All around me was a life and a world which was just not the way that I felt. I did not understand my feelings growing up but I knew that I was different. God made me this way, not a person, not an influence that I should not have been exposed to, not a movie or a book. God.

Today, I would not change anything in my past, present or future. I would not for anything now change my lifestyle ‘choice’ even if it was possible. Everything that has happened to me in the past, every bit of prejudice, every challenge I have ever faced has played a role and shaped me to who I am today. I am better and stronger for it all. You cannot hurt the core of who I am – you can only hurt the surface. I am proud of who I am from the deepest part of my being, and that part of me has nothing to do with my sexuality and lifestyle choice. I am happy with me to the depths of my being.

This introduction and personal perspective is not meant to look for pity, although I will admit that I hope for the possibility of empathy, compassion and understanding.

As gay, lesbian and bisexual people we are already down trodden and now we enter the prison system…

Prison life is hard, cold, unfeeling and it strips the human element from the very being of the person. You are a number and you are a commodity that is counted as a number. You are not a socially acceptable segment of society on the outside, but now we have hierarchy of class, role, and minority inside the walls too. The very people that are not accepted outside the walls are continuing the discrimination inside the walls. Ironic? Perhaps.

The gay man entering prison is probably not wise to expose his homosexuality. He will be targeted and preyed upon. Most gay men will do what is necessary to hide their sexuality to save themselves the shame and pain of their lifestyle and what they are up against if it is exposed. The system has already stripped away all humility from these men, but now the very essence of this person – the only thing that is left must be hidden.

Prisoners will and do share with each other about their families, friends and loved ones. These men – if they have a Partner outside – cannot. They must sit in silence. There love cannot exist in an open forum. They must hide their relationships, and not share or speak of their hopes and dreams. If they do share it is always generic, always uncommitted. A straight man will have an ear for another straight man, but often is not the case for the gay man. He now is silent, hidden, rotting even more inside than the others.

If he is lucky, he will be able to be ‘out’ with his friends inside. If this happens it is a good thing. There are many men in prison that are not threatened by homosexuality and can accept a gay man as a friend. There are many however that cannot. Some if they are flamboyantly gay may become ‘punks’ by choice or by force. This is the lowest of the low and in many cases equates to a form of slavery – sexual slavery. Some gay men will submit to this treatment in an attempt to save themselves from worse fears. What could be worse than giving yourself against your will just so that you are not brutalized even more?

For the gay man that is ‘out’ in prison, life is not always bad. Don’t get me wrong, because it is not all bad behind the walls. Many gay men suffer openly or in silence, but there are others that have achieved an acceptance and can live a fairly decent existence in light of. My Partner is one of these men that is out and is accepted – for the most part. Not however without a cost. He has, will, and does stand up for himself and has spent many lonely days and nights in the hole because he stood up for his choice of lifestyle. He will fight, and he will defend himself and he has not, and never will play any game or submit to another’s hate. We are lucky, he has been down for a while and he is a well-seasoned Prisoner. He knows how to play the politics of system – both the Prisoner’s system and the admin system. My Partner has friends that are more than just supportive – in fact some of them have written me and regularly ask after me. These men are not gay, nor are they anything but caring human beings that see the bigger picture. We are not a threat. In fact they tease him with a familiar kindness that they do with the straight guys around their wives and girlfriends. But don’t misunderstand me here because this does not mean that he still does not have to watch over his shoulder. He is constantly under threat because he is gay. These ‘friends’ are not the majority.

Visitation is stressful, much more stressful than it needs to be. Why? We cannot be who we are without the threat of retaliation from both other Prisoners and/or the administration.

What is a visit to me? It is about spending 6 hours sitting beside the man that I love. It is about me being me, him being him, and together being ‘us’. This time together has nothing to do with sex (although I would be lying if I told you that it does not enter my mind every 10 seconds during the visit – after all I am human), but it does have everything to do with love. The love that I have for this man is very real and very true. It is as strong, as beautiful, and as justified as any love that someone reading this has for their Partner. There is no question for those that choose to watch us in the visiting room that we are more than just a brother or a friend relationship. We interact as a loving couple from the way that we look at each other, talk to each other and move together. We are in love – truly, madly, deeply. I could not hide this if I tried. It is who and what we are together. I don’t want to hide it – I won’t hide it. But, I assure you that we down play it as much as possible. We are forced to be respectful as some people may take offence to our love, and so we are forced to appear less than we should to each other.

Imagine as a woman going to see your husband or boyfriend, or as a man going to see your wife or girlfriend… Imagine that you are allowed the same time for visits but you are not allowed to show that you are in love. Imagine that you could not hug and kiss your Partner entering and exiting the visiting room. Everyone else is - but you cannot. Imagine that you have to sit and talk and share but never touch, never hold hands, never walk with your arm around your Partner. Everyone else is – but you cannot. You must be careful what you say so that you are not overheard. You have to be careful how you look at each other so that you are not found out. Your love is not welcome. Your love is not accepted. You enter for a visit and shake hands or maybe share a hug like two brothers would – a quick embrace with a pat on the back and then quickly back away. You leave the visit the same way, never able to take the warmth of that hug with you on your journey. Your Partner returns to his cell feeling emptier and more alone than before your visit, because the love that is shared between us does not, and can not exist behind the walls. Most reading this will appreciate how important the hug and kiss is. Imagine if you could not have that. How would you feel?

Because my Partner is how he is, and because he is very determined for us to have all that we can have that is equal, we do push the limit. To this point I consider us to be very, very lucky. The question is will this luck hold out?

Our very first visit was a horror all its own. I was terrified of the outcome and was cautious with any outward expression that would ‘give us away’. Over that first weekend my Partner encouraged me to let down my guard and it did come down but not without stress resulting. I felt all eyes on me and I felt exposed. We have hugged from the first visit, but we do also kiss on entry and exit of the visit. We do sit side by side and will have contact within acceptable limits that complies with the visiting room rules. We do however hold back. We do not hold hands openly and walk around the room arm in arm like the other couples. We do spend our time almost completely sitting very close side by side. What we have is more than acceptable to us. All we ask is to continue with what we have. Many gay couples do not even have this much.

There are actually two other gay couples that visit at the same prison that I know of. One couple has been together for 15+ years and they visit twice monthly. The one has been incarcerated for most of that time. They do not hug or kiss or even shake hands because they are too afraid to do so. They greet each other verbally only – both entering and exiting the visiting room. Even with my Partner and I there and paving the way, it is not enough for them to get over their personal fear.

I know of other gay couples involved in the prison system that are either too afraid to show their love, or have been directly forbidden or restricted from doing so. There are lawsuits going on both in the United States as well as other countries now that are challenging the right for gay couples to kiss and / or hug in the visiting room. In the state of Arizona the right for a gay couple to even hug has been challenged. Hugs were reserved for legal spouses and family members only. Currently the right to hug has been returned in AZ but not the right to kiss. Gay men whether cohabitating in a loving relationship prior to incarceration or not, do not count - we are not family, and we are not legal spouses. We do not have the same rights as heterosexual couples and in my mind that only makes our punishment harsher.

Prison administrations will tell us that the rules are there to protect the Prisoner? I am not suggesting that there are not risks involved with openly displaying affection to a same sex Partner in a prison environment, but whether to openly display affection should be our decision not the administration’s decision. I am fully aware of the risks and sometimes feel that we are on borrowed time - borrowed time until there is a ‘retaliation’ that has an impact, or until the state or the prison changes the rules to ‘protect us’ from ourselves. This will ultimately not protect us but hurt us.

Being gay in prison is just as hard of a life as for any other man or woman that is locked up. The difference is that many of these individuals suffer in silence and never come forward for fear of reprisal. The suffering is deep and the cold reality is the emptiness that is forced upon them not being able to openly love.

Being gay is not about having sex with men. It is about men feeling and expressing love towards men instead of women. Love does not always equate with sex, however sex may be an expression of that love. ‘Making Love’ is a better term. Our wants and needs are no different than any heterosexual couple. We want and need intimacy and affection. We want and need to be loved and give love. We are only asking to have equal rights to feel and express what feels natural to us. We just want to be…

Please help to raise the awareness, and stop the condemnation of GLBT people in prison.

LadyHawk
03-23-2003, 11:30 AM
Teb, thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and heart with us. I am the parent of a lesbian and understand to a certain extent what you go through. However, it seems to be different for lesbians than it is for gay men in society. I have never quite understood that. I appreicate that your or my daughters lifestlye is not by choice but how you were made. I wish things were different regarding visiting and contact between partners. I never thought that my daughter would be a lesbian, but then I never thought I would have a relationship with someone in prison, God does have a strange sense of humor sometimes...ha ha..BUT I have learned and grown. As long as my daughter is safe and happy it is not my place to dictate matters of the heart. I wish soceity would realize that what makes a family isn't a man and a woman, or blood or any law, but two people that love each other and are committed to each other. For me I have a sister, that is very near and dear to me. But guess what? We aren't legally sisters. We met through PTO and share a special bond and love and I dare anyone to say that we are not sisters. She is my family. I know of some families where there is no love and yet they are "legally" family. Wish the prison system would catch up with the year 2003 and their definition of family. There are many many people here for example that aren't "legally" married, but I would challange anyone to doubt that in their hearts they are. Weather they are heterosexual or otherwise should not matter.

You are a dear dear person and I am glad that I have been blessed with the gift of your wisdom, honesty and sharing.

Love, ompa

pookie
03-23-2003, 12:29 PM
Ompa, I want to comment on what you said before I forget. I am in TOTAL agreement with you and the way you interpret love and how others should. If more people thought the way you did, the world would be 100% better hands down. But unfortunately, people are not comfortable with themselves in my opinion, so they try and rally against the ones who are; even if it is different to what they traditionally are used to. I am glad you have the type mind that you have. Bottom line, the definition of family is love. Without that, you don't have family, no matter if it's a so called legal one, blood or not. So I hope your thoughts rub off on others who don't feel the way you do.

Teb, all I can say buddy is that everything you have said can be fully related by moi (me)!! I know what it feels like to feel umcomfortable being different as a kid. I am very much like you. I was never flamboyant, but if I am looked at hard enough, I guess one might question and notice. I went through that all through grade school, junior and high school. Yes the Marines too!! I am happy with who I am as an individual. I got heart, soul, mind........all the characteristics that would qualify me as a true and sincere human being.

As far as the prison system goes, I have went through the exact types of worries when visiting Tim in Texas. My God, the very first time was by far the hardest. I was thinking people might notice me and they probably didn't even give a damn.....but my mind was so paranoid. I still get a sense of being that way while visiting him to this day. Tim has a reputation as being a "take no sh**" kind of guy from anyone. Nobody knows of his sexuality but maybe the mailroom I'm sure and maybe his caseworker or team leader.
I know they read the mail and probably his mail when it's going out.

I am way too chicken to even show any type of affection during visits. I also watch out for Tim by controlling my actions and gestures when I am mindful of them because other inmates are in the visiting room who know Tim and look up to Tim bigtime, and I don't want to jeopardize that in any way. He didn't ask me to. It is just an automatic respect that I give to him and that I understand......even though he doesn't say too much about it. When I head on back to the hotel room or back home, he will continue to face the inmates he is incarcerated with, so it's only natural for me to respect that fact.

I can handle this type of action while he is in prison. I am used to "hiding" all my life practically anyways. If you can conceal your sexuality in the Marines, you can conceal it anywhere. Times have gotten better in respect to recognizing the significance of love within a gay couple these days, but it is still a long road ahead full of obstacles. There are so many biased people out there with all the stereotypes, etc..... And I must admit, some of our own gay people don't help the situation any. I never believed in forcing my sexuality down people's throats, but a gradual learning process is better than nothing at all. And being black does not help matters any even more so. I think that is why I tend to get along better with whites than I do blacks in a lot of ways. Black males are supposedly cool ya know, and being straight is an automatic assumed part of being cool, no question. I am not straight and white males seem to not really care as much whereas some blacks tend to act real harshly. Now don't get me wrong. I have had some bad experiences with some white males and some good experiences with black males.....but for the most part, it has been vice versa.

Dealing with Tim and I as a couple will attract uncomfortable attention.....not only because one might see that we are gay, but because of our different race. You just don't see mixed races at all in the visiting room and I can be putting on a good act as far as the gay thing goes, but eyes will still be glued on us because of our race difference. Tim is this white tall tough lookin guy with tatoos and here I am an average clean-cut lookin black guy. People instantly see the difference on a number of issues. But I am beginning to get used to it, and with all the bullcrap that I go through with the system, it fuels my ability to not give a damn in return.

This forum will also be a good teacher to many as well I feel and I hope it aids and contributes in the reform of the prison system policies in an indirect way when it comes to gay people. I read your post with total relation to many points mentioned. How about a great big good luck to us!

pookie

tebkrg
03-23-2003, 03:26 PM
Ompa and Pookie,

Thank you for your kind words of support...

Ompa, no, it is not as difficult for a Lesbian in today's society as it is for a man. Don't get me wrong, becaue they have their challenges too. IMO, it stems from the macho thing that guys are supposed to be. Women are allowed to be feminine or butch and not too much is said. Men are not allowed the same breadth of behavior without being questioned. It also is much more acceptable for two women to live together without society questioning them, but after a certain age, if two men are living together then it is noticed. It is hard to explain, but this is some of the reasons that I see.

And as you said...

Originally posted by ompa930
I wish soceity would realize that what makes a family isn't a man and a woman, or blood or any law, but two people that love each other and are committed to each other.

I have more 'friends' that are 'family' than I do family. I define 'family' as the commitment to each other not by blood or any other factor. Many of my friends will and are more committed to me than my family - so they are family.

My Partner is definitely family!

Thanks again for your words!

emme
03-23-2003, 03:30 PM
thank you all for sharing your hearts with us. everyone who has posted here is so gifted in the use of language, and you all demonstrate your ability to think rationally, and to be objective and thoughtful of the world around you. but, most importantly, you have all spoken of something that transcends all of the wonderful qualities i have mentioned...you all possess hearts that are capable of love, and of you all unconditionally love whomever you need, want and have to love. nothing is more important than that. i just wish others could come to this conclusion, and simply celebrate so much goodness in a world that is filled with TRUE horror!!!

thank you all.

emme

Retired-6
03-25-2003, 09:05 AM
Teb:

I think what you wrote is very powerful and I must agree that being gay is not a "choice", as many "choose" to believe. Moreover, I hope that people who read your thread call to mind later on that being gay is not about "sex", but about loving another man or woman and being no different in our expressions of that love or desires to live with one mate.

I am sure that some people who come to this forum and read the different threads, walk away learning something of value. While others simply scratch their heads and move on. Yet, for those who believe that what we have been sharing is about our trying to have a "pitty party", well, they simply miss the point. Because it is not about this at all, far from it in fact. Yet, one cannot expose the hate, the prejudice, and the pain without telling the stories to demonstrate the manner and the degree therein that the gay community has been subjected to such things. But we should not equate this to mean that we are seeking pitty from anyone.

When it comes to prison life and the manner in which gay men live, it is clearly very different than the manner in which lesbians live in prison. Because male offenders, unlike females offenders, are not widely accepted if they express emotions, regardless of their sexuality. And in this aspect, I think men in general find prison life much harder. Yet, for the gay man living in prison. I believe there is a higher risk for them to become violent and even to rape other prisoners. In part, I believe this exists in an effort to conceal who they really are inside themselves. As though the violence will somehow make them invisible to the pain they feel, or the questions from others. As a result, many gay men come out of prison with a new learned behavior of violence in sex and the inability to make love. Which is then reflected in the staggering numbers of same-sex domestic violence statistics. And so, it becomes only a repitious cycle that leads people no where in either achieving acceptance or finding love.

Chris

spiritwhizpers
10-30-2005, 07:01 PM
You are all very wonderful, caring individuals. Your souls run deep. I am deeply moved by your words of wisdom and by how life has molded you. I am a single white woman whose friends are mostly gay. I wouldn't trade any of them or any of you for all of the money in the world. When you have a moment please read Support needed for the Gay population written by my guy on the inside who is desperately trying to change things from the inside. He has looked into the empty, sad and lonely eyes of men afraid to be who they really are. They have no one in there to be themselves with. Teb you have explained it so well in your post. Describing the man on the inside. Don't ever stop being you.

oxoxoxox's to all of you
The Whispering Spirit