Hello, I just found PTO while searching for some info on sex offenses. I'm 22 years old and am being investigated for a sex crime. I had an 'improper' relation with a girl who was a few years younger than me, which was obviously illegal. The crime took place in Arizona (which is the toughest state on SOs) and I am looking at a MANDATORY 10 year minimum, 17 years recommended, and 24 maximum for this one offense. Due to how I met the girl, and due to the fact that I went and picked her up, they could potentially add kidnapping (since I picked her up, even though she wanted me to come get her) and a few other things onto this. In the end, my lawyer calculated that I would be in prison/jail (whats the difference) for anywhere from 10 years until I am old, grey, and dead. AZ does not allow any kind of probation for a SO, so once I am in jail for the first time, I will not be out until my sentence is up.

I had initially considered running, but realized that what I did was morally wrong (though I don't think it should be illegal, or at least as illegal as arizona says it is) so I figured that I would do my time if I had to. I am scared.

I was three months away from getting my bachelors degree and getting a job (I had one already lined up). When the officers searched my apartment, they took a whole lot of stuff, including things belonging to my roommates (who had nothing to do with this at all).. I feel so horrible for my friends and family who have been drug into this all because of me. I am a very nonviolent person, who is also pretty skinny and physically weak. I am afraid of what is going to happen to me in the coming days, months, and years. I could handle 10 years, because I would have a life to lead after I got out still - I would only be 32 or 33. However, if I get put away for 20 or 30 years or more (which could very well happen) I will be 50 or 60 when I get out ... my whole life will have gone by.. I want to get married, and get a job, and have children.. I don't want to sit in a tiny room forever and slowly die.

Can anybody give me any advice? How should I act in prison/jail? Should I try to be friendly or just keep to myself and never speak? Will I get beat up and/or raped if people find out that I am a sex offender (even though the girl was a sexually active, physically mature teenager, who was on birth control from previous relationships with other guys). Anything you can offer to help make this go smoother for me and my family would be greatly appreciated.

I have never commited any other sort of crime before, and I never had planned on commiting anything bad with any other girls her age. It was just one of those things that happened, and shouldn't have.

If somebody under 18 came up to me today and asked me to have sex with her, I would say no. I realized what I did was wrong and will NEVER let it happen again. I wish I could tell everybody in the world that, and they would see it was true, and leave me alone.

How do I go about joining a sex offender program? Should I join one? (I am not in AZ currently, though my lawyer in AZ has ways to contact me if the detective investigating me needs anything) Again, anything you can offer would help me reconstruct my life and prepare for the worst.

Thank you very much.

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I think my biggest fear is not of going to jail, but of being worthless. I am fairly educated and know a whole lot about computers, graphic design, and how to make 3d art. In jail all of this will rot, and when I get out everything I have ever learned (nearly every skill I have focuses on computers, I have been using them since I was 4) will be useless. In 10+ years everything I know will be completely wrong. Will I still learn things in jail? Will I be able to get a degree? What kind of degree will I be able to get? I've always wanted to get my masters - will I be able to? Can I subscribe to magazines and newspapers? How about books? Can I read as many books as I can get my hands on, or do they have a limit? Will I be able to draw? Please help.

just keep your head up. all that you have learned will not rot. you can work on that stuff in there if you happen to go. but just keep your head up and stay positive. that is the only way you will make. there are others on this board that would be able to help you out in more of what you are going through i dont know how the sex offenses work. i am not dealing with that so i hope you find all your answers. and if you ever need to talk go ahead and pm me. take care

ord0x,
1st off Welcome to PTO!! I'm sorry all this is happening to you ...sometimes we do things without thinking about what might happen later.
I know in prison you can read and draw...and even finish college. I know its not picnic but at least you can finish what you started. Life after prison will prob. not be easy but you are young and can overcome it.
Good Luck to you

welcome to PTO. I wish I could you that things will get easier for you. They have alot of men strapped with this statuetory (sp) rape law.

If you ever need to talk, please know that I am here for you. If and when you get sentenced, I would not mind writing to you while you do your time. PM me and i will give you my address. You do not have to face this alone.

there are a few here that has done time them self, hopfylly they will get back to you soon as well.

Hang in there

Welcome to PTO. The rules are different in every state. But I'm am fairly certain that yes, you will be able to get magazine subscriptions..books can be sent to you..and you should be able to finish your education. Hang in there. My husband in currently serving a sentence for a s/o. If you ever need to talk, please feel free to pm me okay?

Marie

Ord0x

I welcome you once again to the PTO family !!! I answered your other post concerning all this crap you're going through !! I'm really sorry for you, but know we're here for you and your family !!! Your parents can join us once you're in, we'll give them care and support. As I already told you in your other post, hopefully some members will come accross with good advice.

Keep your head up and stay strong.
All my best wishes
Phil

I am so sorry to hear what you are going thru. I wish I had the words to comfort you. The only thing I can say is that right now should be the hardest part. The fear of the unknown is human nature.

You will get thru this and your life will not be waisted if you chose for it not to be.

Ordox hello. I was directed to your site by Lulu which is my woman. Me and her are involved in assisting others either currently caught up in the system or facing the possibility of entering it. After you read this go to the Home Page of PTO and scroll down to the Introductions and Stories format. Find ko1 Sick of the System and click on that site. That's me and reading that thread will initiate you to some of my history with the system which is extensive. There are many pages to that post so be sure to not miss any. Throughout that thread you'll find some nuggets for thought. I was released from the Texas Penitentiary System on 2-20 after serving 8 years on a 12 for Retaliation. Me and Laura have worked with inmates in Arizona but we are not certain of all the rules governing such. First of all I applaud the fact that you do take responsibility for the wrong in your case. All states love to throw the book at any sex offender. Don't plan on the absolute worst happening just yet. Pray and seek spiritual guidance. This is not a death sentence. No matter what sentence you draw life will go on and one day you will be a free man again. Follow the old cliche which has worked for me many times, Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. It's hard to do at first but it gets easier with practice. I hope you have a good attorney cause you will need one. I don't know the details of your case but I am not here to judge you. There was a time in my past when I would not have communicated with anyone with any type of sex offense. I am a changed man spiritually and have found that to show mercy to others brings mercy upon myself. Let me post this and I'll be back momentarily with some straight talk and answers for you.

Welcome to PTO. I'm sorry you're going thru this. There are a lot of young women out there that look older and even if one knows their age, things happen....Unfortunately, most states have laws and strongly enforce them regarding a person over 18 or 21 with someone a year or two younger.

Many that go in do not tell others what they're in for and especially if it's a sexual offence. It's safer that way for you. Some view it as worse than murder. Why? No clue.....

Others will be along to share with you, but I know my husband hooked up with a couple of older men who seemed nice right away so they could kind of walk him thru things by explaining things. Steer clear of anything that even looks like a gang.....To be a loner a lot of times may be asking for trouble.......

Your parents can join PTO and you may want to tell them aout it. We have many moms and dads on here whose sons are incarcerated. Hang in there......

Deb

OK Ordox let's chat. The conditions of prison are always exaggerated in the movies. But those exaggerations are of regularly occurring daily events that do indeed happen. Prison is very cliquish. You'll be a new boot and green so others may possibly look to prey on you. If you'll stand up for yourself win, lose or draw others will steer clear of you that like to start trouble. It's just like in the sitcom tv shows. A bully will pick on a victim he knows won't put up a fight and he can get away with it on. If someone he tries to intimidate stands up to him then he will usually back down. Thus is prison to an extent. Just be determined to stand your ground and let others know you're not looking for trouble but if it comes your way that you will fight back to defend your own. Even if others find out the nature of your charge and don't like you personally, the fact that you will fight to defend yourself will earn you a degree of respect from the inmate population. Prison is all about respect and to respect someone doesn't mean you have to like them or deal with them in the joint. Another post is coming.

Thank you all for responding, I'm making this short now because my right hand is hurting very badly (carpal tunnel syndrom) and has been getting worse for the last couple of hours. So, until the pain goes away: thanks again.. i appreciate the responses.

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I take it the chances of me, when I get to jail (assuming a miracle doesn't happen), ignoring everybody and minding my own business and having no contact with anybody for n years that I'm in.. is next to nill?

Let's continue. I would advise you bulk up a little bit, say drink protein shakes and pump a little iron as you await the outcome of all this. You'll be able to workout on the rec yard or in the gym if you go to prison. Working out is a good, healthy life habit and the extra added benefit is that in prison a little bulk is a good thing and can be a deterrent to predators if you can learn to back up the extra mass. In prison if you have to fight it's not about winning even though everybody wants to. What is important is that you will defend yourself and others realize that. Even if you lose if you stay down for your own it's called having heart. If you can gain respect and manage to keep your nose relatively clean you can become minimum custody where most folks are trying to stay out of trouble, better themselves and fighting and rioting are rare occurrences. In prison there's a huge amount of discrepancies between the almost nonexistent level of violence on minimum custody compared to the amount of extreme violence that can occur on close custody. On minimum custody or on a trustee camp let's say the opportunities for advanced degree programs and numerous vocational trades are abundant. Yes you can have magazines, newspapers and literature sent to you. In Texas they must be sent direct from the Publisher but I had tons of stuff to read arrive to me at mail call daily. You must find your inner self and be determined to be strong, stay positive and to make the most of your time. Prison is what you make it. You can better yourself and prepare for your eventual release and future. You are a young man and this will not be the end for you. Some prisons are laid back and very nice with many opportunities. I would recommend spiritually seeking if you have not already. A strong faith in God can help you to keep a clear head and to carry on in a positive fashion. More in a moment.

ordOx,
I too wish to welcome you to our family. You and your family can and will find nothing but all the support you will ever possible need right here. There are nothing but caring, loving people here and WE DO NOT JUDGE ANYONE FOR ANYTHING!!! :) That's not we're all about, God knows we and our loved oned are certainly judged enough by others constantly. This is a very safe place. I do hope that you encourage your family to join also, as we can help them make it through your impending incarceration, or no incarceration, as you NEVER know in a case like you have mentioned where she was consentual (sp). Just hang in there!! I am really glad you decided not to run, because that would have made things look really bad for you, and it could get you hurt, or more charges. You have to just be as strong as you can. I will not tell you that Prison will be easy, because that's just not the truth. It won't be a cakewalk, however, you can make the best of it and further your education as you are wanting to, and get into a S.O. program as I am sure they will probably make you. You can even get into maybe where since you do know so much about computers, they will let you help teach others who don't. You just have to be ready. But 1st, let me tell you, you asked what's the difference in Jail and Prison, a lot my friend, a lot!!! You just hang in there and come here for support until you have to go, ok. Then, make sure your family comes here for support.
Sincerely
diane

ko1: Thank you very very much for taking the time to offer help. You've answered a lot of questions.. except the whole sticking up for myself part is going to be a new deal. I've went through my whole life not sticking up for myself, which lead to really low self-esteem etc etc. I don't think i've ever been in a fight in my life. I guess I'll learn one way or another. Again, thank you for giving me some help. One of the worst parts of this whole situation is the knowledge that, if most people find out what I did, they would label me some kind of incurable maniac and ostracise me.

You won't have to worry about being approached by gangs to join. All gangs, at least in Texas anyways, forbid anyone to join with any type of sexual offense and gangs do background checks on every prospective members. Also gangs want tough street fighters and if you don't have experience in that they consider you dead weight. So nothing to worry about there. If others know or find out, and guards love to tell it on sex offenders, then it is true that many will not accept you. That's a given so accept it. However in this day and age depending on the circumstances of your crime many will accept you even knowing the facts. In prison it's basically about getting in where you fit in and you'll have to learn to not care about what everybody else thinks of you. You have it within you to rise above all this and to remain very positive in prison and to continue to further your education and to find direction for the Big Picture of your Life. If you have AT&T as your phone carrier I can call you free of charge as long as I would like. If you do have that carrier click PM beneath my name on any of my posts and you can send me a Private Message with your number and I could answer any of your questions and cover alot more ground expediently like that. Me and Laura do currently help some in your state the details of which I am not at liberty to discuss on line in this format due to confidentiality reasons. Me and Lulu have been assisting many people just entering the system for awhile now. If you don't have AT&T and would like further info PM me or Lulu and we will get back with you. I'll leave you with a final favorite saying of mine that carried me through much in my life, This too shall pass.

Ordox,

Pay attention to Ko1 and lulu they can help, as well as, the many others here. Support in a time like this is very important. Take care,

You are in our prayers.

Linda & Patti

i am so sorry to hear of your story. please let the pto family help you through this, and i also believe that we might be of use and solace to your parents if they choose to join us.

you will be in my thoughts,
emme

Ordox,

My brother in law has been in & out of Az prisons his whole life. What I'm about to tell you may be the most important thing you hear. If you are being honest & this was just an afair between two people just a few years apart, KEEP YOUR PAPER WORK, because once it gets out that your in for a SO offense, & it will eventually come out, & you have paper work to back up your claim, no one will bother you. I have gone after SO's in the joint, but I don't consider a 20yr old with like a 17 yr old child molestation, & just about everyone I know feels the same way. You'll be going to a max yard, & they play their politics seriously. Paper work to back up your story will save you alot of grief.-----Ken

Ordox,
First, welcome to the community.
I am sorry to hear about your situation. Both what Kconnor56 and Ko1 said definitely applies to your situation. Being prepared prior to going in will make your life much better, regardless of your sentence.
What I am going to address is more on the other issues of what you can do inside.
It is unfortunate, but computer use and access is very limited in most prisons. In the feds they are especially skittish about computers. They almost act as if you can use one to escape. As far as I know, there is no prison system or jail that allows inmates any type of Internet access, so that is definitely out the door. If they have computers, they are going to be archaic, old boxes. You might even get a laugh out of the pirated software many of them use.
You are correct about technology and your skills being over run with the time you are doing. Art in prison is a really big thing and there are some incredibly gifted/talented artists in the joint but the chances of you getting time on a computer with Photoshop is probably substantially lower than getting hit by lightning. That would be a pet position someplace in admin where some guard smuggled you in the program to go with it.. It isn’t very likely.
Falling behind in the tech field was a concern of mine also, and I got to watch the tech industry fall apart from behind the wall. Despite not actually getting to put my hands on computers, the internet, and other things as simple as a cell phone and pager, I followed everything from publications. Actually, I probably knew more during that time period and soon after I got out than many in the tech field because I had the time to focus on every article and publication I wanted to know about. I think I had subscriptions to 14 magazines? You know how many free tech magazines are out there right now. You can get a subscription to all of them, and then pay for the good ones. I ordered books for all the courses covering the MCSE, and a bunch of Cisco certification books. So, you can keep up with technology, but you will also be hungering to go hands on with it. Since you have a background in it, you will be able to follow and possibly keep up for the most part where people with no computer background would have a very hard time.
Now that I have touched a bit on this, I have a few questions for you.
Where are you in the court phase? You are out of state of AZ from what I can tell, and that is sort of interesting in itself. Are you going to take it to trial or plea or?
Regardless, I wish you well and you will find no better support and lots of information here at PTO.
David

As for keeping to yourself for your entire stay, you won't want to do that. Chances are you will meet some people in there that you will consider in time to be very good friends.
Chances are people will test you and you will have to stand up for yourself, but you don't have to try and go out and make a name for yoruself, nor do you have to go around telling people what your are there for, and so on.. Though, like others have said, that will become known if there is interest.

WELCOME I REALLY WISH I HAD WORDS FOR YOU TO HELP BUT ALL I CAN DO IS PRAY ON THIS FOR YOU THE BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND GOD BLESS

Another welcome to PTO. I think Kconner and Fedx have given you some very good advice.
I wish you luck on your journey and know you will have friends here.

softie

Welcome to Pto

I am so sorry to hear about your situation. My boyfriend is has been in Arizona (state prison system) for the past 14 months. He was sentenced in both Yavapai and Pima counties (and served time in both jails). If there is anything that I can help you with -- or questions you might have, please free feel to pm me.

Kim

ordox I just noticed something you said in your original post, There is a big difference between county jail, & state prison.------Ken

ordox,

Welcome to PTO! You are hooked up with some great people here that I am sure have already and will continue to help you through this.

I second or third the comment that if you have family or friends that you could bring to PTO, it will keep the door open for information and assistance when you cannot come to us anymore.

http://aci.az.gov/indexx.htm... Good news.. AZ DOES have the equivalent of a Printshop in it's inhouse Correctional Industries complex.

You might have to wait for someone to die or parole to get a job with them, but they'd be delighted to have you,..and oddly, the more time you have the better your chances.

'Correctional Industries' is a company which subcontracts, trains and makes product or performs services with inmate manpower. CI has affilliate offices/plants in a number of states. It appears that AZ doesn't have an affiliate of CI proper.. It seems that they own/operate the business themselves and save all the profit. But, on the upside, they do have graphic services and the quasi-civilian management of that facility would be de-friggin-lighted to find someone who has your skill level walking in.

Where I was, it was an actual CI facility... and prepress/typeset (negative stripping/plate burning/Quark typeset...etc) was the second highest paying job (next to the lady who ran the dark/room and shot the negatives..) Don't get excited,.. it was .75 an hour... but for folks making .60 a day in state pay...its a MINT. And, as I've said before, it's the closest thing to a day's work I could find on the inside.

PS.. Welcome to PTO... and remember, there are some folks in prison who you'd expect to see there,...proceed with caution.. but as your own story can tell you, there are some otherwise normal/decent folks who are tossed in there too. Generally you find your way to navigate the first sort and are delighted when you find the handful that are very much like you.

Give everyone the benefit of the doubt (and don't be too proud to say it).. The only thing you can be certain of about any of them is that they have been arrested and put in jail, (or later in prison) and it's a helluvalot easier to get there than most people would imagine. You probably understand that now. Nothing beats education, huh?

Ordox it was good to chat with you for the 45 minutes by phone. We covered alot of ground quickly that way. Get the rest of the info we discussed and contact me by phone again this weekend and we will pick up where we left off. I'll get you Lulus email for your folks next time we talk. Hang in there.

i am glad to see that people have come to help you with this. i hope it all helps ord. we are all here for you and ko1 has been a lot of help to a lot of people. he gives a lot of wonderful advice. so if you ever need to talk pm me i am here and so is a lot of other people. and that is good to let your parents know about this site. because can support them and help them with what the feelings and emotions are

Kenneth, what a special guy you are for helping out Ordox like that! You'll get your angel wings for sure. :)

Shalove thanks. Lysbeth I'm on a mission of a higher calling. The rest of my life will be spent atoning for the errors of my past. Smile. Ordox is very articulate and together, he is going to be just fine. Y'all keep him in y'alls prayers.

ordox,
I am so glad that you and kenneth had the chance to talk. As he told you, we will stick with you though all this, hang in there and you know where to find us if you need us

man i am not saying anything here but your story seems like there is a possibility that it is not much truth in what you say.. and forgive me if i am wrong but i don't think you would be out of the state of AZ if you are facing that kind of time and again i think the legal age of consent for sex in AZ is 16

http://www.teenadvice.about.com/library/weekly/qanda/blageofconsentchart.htm

The age of consent in AZ is 18.

I am so sorry to hear how you got caught up in this. I'm wondering who came after you -- the girl's parents, or the law. I have a 21 year old son and I am going to show this to him. I am so very sorry. Welcome to PTO.

Lots of good advice here ...

I did 4.5 years in Ft. Leavenworth ... with two sex charges ... and like people said, being able to show on paper that I wasn't there for abusing a little kid was REAL important to some. Nobody gives a hoot about a 22 year old doing a 15 or 16 year old consensually ... as people realize that girls that age are normally already active. Some guys lie about their charges ... not a good idea ... play it straight because sooner or later somebody will find out the truth.

It don't matter how big you are if somebody or some group decides to target you. I've seen some pretty tough guys get beat down bad. I'd still try to bulk up some and if I were you I'd make a vow to always stand up for myself RESPECTFULLY ... a lot of trouble can start if you disrespect the wrong person. Don't be a smart ass and don't be rude ... but don't be a punk.

I was in general Pop about a month when a 'heavy' decided to test me ... we fought ... he pounded me pretty good ... and could have hurt me bad if he had wanted, but I fought back and actually managed to get one good hit in ... after that I got joked a lot about being crazy for fighting him ... he just laughed and would say that crazy mf has a death wish ... but nobody ever saw me as a potential target again ... and my time went by rather easy.

As for the rape and stuff ... my experience is it happens to some guys ... but the supply of willing providers seemed greater than the demand in Kansas.

Hang tough ... James

Hello, I just wanted to tell you that I am sorry that your are going through this whole ordeal. There is only one answer that I can give you and that is JESUS. Many times in life when we go through difficult times that is when we begin to search for answers many will search for answers and will not find one. The bible says that if you seek Jesus he will be found if you knock he will open. Call upon his name while he is near. Jesus died for your sins. and even though you commited a crime Jesus can be your lawyer in court. God is in control. Doesn't matter what man say. God says something different. All you have to do is ask Jesus for forgiveness for ALL your sins. ask him to come into your heart that you want to make HIM your Lord and Savior. and you will be saved. Get into a bible base church and I promise you God will keep you in perfect peace. and the outcome will be a good one. God bless you. You may have tried many things in your past but you never tried JESUS.
Guaranteed to plead your case. "The Lord will fight for you and you shall hold your peace" Exodus 14:14
God Bless YOu.

Hi ordox,
wellcome to PTO..I´m sure you get all the support you need right here.
Question; you try to say you have to go to Jail because you had a relationship with a Girl under 18 Years???? Did the Girl turn you in to the Police or what ???? I di´dn´t know that it is against the Law to have Boy/Girlfriend under 18 ,when the other one is older.....
I have been confused about all that Amerikan Law....but that´s about the st....I heard.
I think the Goverment over there should worry about other things....like support the children when they get out of shool so they won´t have to hang around the streets or get into Drugs.
I did read up on some CRAZY Laws in the States.......and I think that is real pittyfull

Best wishes to from Germany

There is HOPE for SOs. We are organizing a Civil Rights Activist Group. Our aim is to reform the laws and restore civil rights to SOs and their families. Please pass this information on to as many as you possibly can. Have friends and relatives sign the SO Civil Rights Petition and join our group at SOhopeful.org

Petition go to: http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/SOhopeful/

We are here to HELP!

Bill M.
DSO


Hello, I just found PTO while searching for some info on sex offenses. I'm 22 years old and am being investigated for a sex crime. I had an 'improper' relation with a girl who was a few years younger than me, which was obviously illegal. The crime took place in Arizona (which is the toughest state on SOs) and I am looking at a MANDATORY 10 year minimum, 17 years recommended, and 24 maximum for this one offense. Due to how I met the girl, and due to the fact that I went and picked her up, they could potentially add kidnapping (since I picked her up, even though she wanted me to come get her) and a few other things onto this. In the end, my lawyer calculated that I would be in prison/jail (whats the difference) for anywhere from 10 years until I am old, grey, and dead. AZ does not allow any kind of probation for a SO, so once I am in jail for the first time, I will not be out until my sentence is up.

I had initially considered running, but realized that what I did was morally wrong (though I don't think it should be illegal, or at least as illegal as arizona says it is) so I figured that I would do my time if I had to. I am scared.

I was three months away from getting my bachelors degree and getting a job (I had one already lined up). When the officers searched my apartment, they took a whole lot of stuff, including things belonging to my roommates (who had nothing to do with this at all).. I feel so horrible for my friends and family who have been drug into this all because of me. I am a very nonviolent person, who is also pretty skinny and physically weak. I am afraid of what is going to happen to me in the coming days, months, and years. I could handle 10 years, because I would have a life to lead after I got out still - I would only be 32 or 33. However, if I get put away for 20 or 30 years or more (which could very well happen) I will be 50 or 60 when I get out ... my whole life will have gone by.. I want to get married, and get a job, and have children.. I don't want to sit in a tiny room forever and slowly die.

Can anybody give me any advice? How should I act in prison/jail? Should I try to be friendly or just keep to myself and never speak? Will I get beat up and/or raped if people find out that I am a sex offender (even though the girl was a sexually active, physically mature teenager, who was on birth control from previous relationships with other guys). Anything you can offer to help make this go smoother for me and my family would be greatly appreciated.

I have never commited any other sort of crime before, and I never had planned on commiting anything bad with any other girls her age. It was just one of those things that happened, and shouldn't have.

If somebody under 18 came up to me today and asked me to have sex with her, I would say no. I realized what I did was wrong and will NEVER let it happen again. I wish I could tell everybody in the world that, and they would see it was true, and leave me alone.

How do I go about joining a sex offender program? Should I join one? (I am not in AZ currently, though my lawyer in AZ has ways to contact me if the detective investigating me needs anything) Again, anything you can offer would help me reconstruct my life and prepare for the worst.

Thank you very much.

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I think my biggest fear is not of going to jail, but of being worthless. I am fairly educated and know a whole lot about computers, graphic design, and how to make 3d art. In jail all of this will rot, and when I get out everything I have ever learned (nearly every skill I have focuses on computers, I have been using them since I was 4) will be useless. In 10+ years everything I know will be completely wrong. Will I still learn things in jail? Will I be able to get a degree? What kind of degree will I be able to get? I've always wanted to get my masters - will I be able to? Can I subscribe to magazines and newspapers? How about books? Can I read as many books as I can get my hands on, or do they have a limit? Will I be able to draw? Please help.

thanks for the reply.. this is an old thread and the member isn't active.. there's a lot of good information here, however please start a new topic/thread for further discussion.

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