View Full Version : No change of venue, trial stays in El Paso


lulu
02-28-2003, 03:47 PM
The murder trial for man accused of kidnapping, strangling and burning
5-year-old Alexandra Flores will stay in El Paso, despite a request for a
change of venue.

David Renteria is awaiting trial for capital murder for the abduction and
murder of 5-year-old Alexandra Flores in November of 2001.

Renteria's attorneys' requested a change of venue almost three weeks ago.
But Thursday Judge Bramblett denied that request and the trial stays in El
Paso.

Renteria's attorneys argue he cannot get a fair trial in El Paso because
of the emotional effect Alexandra's murder has had on the community.

They feel even though El Paso jurors are usually very fair, it will be
very difficult to find 12 jurors without impartial feelings.

David Renteria faces the death penalty if he is found guilty of capital
murder.

District Attorney Jaime Esparza says he is very pleased with Thursday's
ruling and feels confident a good jury can be chosen in El Paso.

Since they are seeking the death penalty, jurors will be interviewed
one-on-one. Segall says once jury selection begins, he can once again
address the change of venue.

The last time an El Paso trial was moved was in November of 2002--a
capital murder trial for Michael Jacques, accused of killing Sophia
Martinez was moved to San Antonio.

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Source : KTSM News Channel 9

softheart
02-28-2003, 05:25 PM
Anyone who is in Elpaso and has a trail or case there might as well forget it. I have a friend on DR and the case is out of elpaso, they had him hung and tarred and feathered in the newspapers before he went to court. It was a high profile case, several prostitutes killed. that was 12 years ago he has been on the row since, but yet the killings are still going on. they don't care if a person gets a fair trial or not as long as they get someone for the crime.

softie

lulu
02-28-2003, 05:27 PM
your so correct. It is hard to get a change of venue anyway

softheart
02-28-2003, 06:11 PM
Some places are worse then others. But in Elpaso that is one place you won't get it. Especially if it is a high profile case.

softie

lulu
02-28-2003, 08:43 PM
Elpaso Tx is where shot gun was at. Boy did he hate that place. He said that he has been in worse, but would rather not ever go back to that place. Mexico is hard peroid. bless their hearts

vanitygreen
08-11-2003, 05:03 PM
i'm not sure why they moved mike's trial to be honest with you. i could ask him to explain but i'm sure it won't make any sense anyway. i believe it had something to do with the possibility that he would recieve an unfair trial. if you ask me the whole trial was unfair in the way it was handled but whateva...:rolleyes:

vanitygreen
08-17-2003, 04:08 AM
:( every time i hear about my brother mike i still get sad. i miss him so much. i wish circumstances were different. i suppose all one can really do is take it with stride, yes no? :)

~cheenna~
08-17-2003, 08:38 PM
So sorry to read this ... we all know it is hard to get a fair trial in TX to begin with, I guess just about any place else as well, but, just down right unfair to go in with it stacked against you ... this kind of case is going to draw a lot of public sentiment and the media will be right there to stir it to frenzy ... so sad ...

vanitygreen
08-22-2003, 02:56 PM
Down with the prison system! I hate the way it works, half the time innocent men and women have unfair trials or better yet end up on death row...and how many can we say do we truly know are guilty? :mad:

lilpeatry
09-11-2003, 10:33 PM
Hey there

I know both of these guys went to school with them. I even dated Michael. What he and William did was a shame and evil. What the hell were they thinking. I mean Michael has always had a screw loose and what they did was f up to me. I see that William has the death penalty so why not Michael. I mean it does take two to do this crime and that is a sick one at that. Michael of all people I never thought he would do something like this. Even when he has kids. I mean come on what kind of a father would do something like this and what if it was his child. Where in their right minds did they think this was okay to take an innocent teens life or any life at that over some stupid money. Ever heard of get a job like everyone else in this world.

vanitygreen
09-12-2003, 10:27 AM
well i can see where you are coming from but i wouldn't go throwing stones till you know the whole story. michael was just in a bad place at the wrong time. you might assume i'm just saying that because he's my brother, but by no means would i feel sorry for him or cover up for him if i thought he was a lunatic, which he isn't. yeah, mike wasn't the perfect father or husband, but he's changed over the years. he's not a little kid anymore. he's learned the error of his ways and he didn't kill her, will did. will got what he deserved, michael was done an injustice. if you haven't talked to him in years, i suppose you wouldn't really know any of that would you? i talk to him nearly everyday when possible. he doesn't deserve the death penalty, he's not cruel or vicious. at one time perhaps he was confused, but if you knew what was going on, you'd know that he's suffered enough. if he's so weird and crazy, why did he turn himself and will in? anyway, i'm not trying to get on your case or anything, you have a right to your opinion. just make sure you know the whole story is all i'm saying...

lilpeatry
09-12-2003, 09:54 PM
Well I know Mike. I dated him in HS. I know your brother and the crowd he hung out with. I was the one that helped him graduate by helping him on his exams. He spent his time at my house and with my family. I even gave him money when he needed it and I know him. So trust me you can not say that I dont know him and dont know the whole story. I was pregnate at the time the FBI called me at work to talk to me about your brother and told me the whole story step by step detail for detail so please dont tell me I do not know him. He used to brag in Ruidoso NM about him telling people and disposing of bodies. So if someone can say those things even just to say them then there is something wrong.

vanitygreen
09-15-2003, 01:22 PM
funny how you can think so little of him and yet you want me to say hello...

lilpeatry
09-15-2003, 09:57 PM
I think so little of him cause he did me wrong as well in the days. I put up with is drugs and his drinking and his attitude and his abuse that is how i can think of him that way. Maybe he changed but ask your sister or whoever he married if he was like that still. He was a cheater he was an abuser i mean come on no one should have to put up with that. His first wife that he married in the army even said that same thing. And they got divorce. I know him more than anyone and I was there and I was also his victum. My brother even saw what he did to me and how he was. I'm just saying how can someone do something like what he has taken part of. I mean have you asked him what he was thinking that day or what he was on.

vanitygreen
09-16-2003, 09:59 AM
no offense, but sometimes the bitterness of being an ex overtakes the whole perspective of things...mike's not a bad person, he's just not perfect. give him a break. he's suffered enough without somebody else ragging on him for his mistakes.

lilmak
09-16-2003, 07:07 PM
Wrong....he is a bad person and ALWAYS was. He always did everything he could to screw everyone else over. You think hes all innocent and suffered enough? BULL....what about the suffering of that girl? And the others he was never caught for.
There are so many things you dont know about....soooo many... Maybe you should ask him for the truth, like he'd actually tell you/
Hes always been strung out on drugs too just to top it off. He is and always will be mentally unstable and bad. I hope he never gets out of prison, ever.

QQin4meboo
09-16-2003, 08:48 PM
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY , WHAT ONE DID IN THE PAST ( HIGH SCHOOL ) WHATEVER DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FACTS OF A CSE , AND THE VERDICT , NO MATTER WHAT IT IS , I HAVE NO CLUE WHO THESE MEN ARE , OR THE CASE , BUT THEY ARE IN JAIL , AND WHY EVEN BOTHER TO SLAM THEM NOW ? ALSO , UNLESS U WITNESS THE CRIME , ALL THE TALK ABOUT WHO DID IT IS SPECULATION ,

LETS PLAY NICE ,

Sewergrrl
09-16-2003, 08:53 PM
What the hell is this? The Hatfields vs. the McCoys??

Michelle

vanitygreen
09-17-2003, 09:54 AM
Yeah I agree...there's no point bashing Mike now. Nothing you say will change his fate. What is it they say? "He who is WITHOUT SIN cast the first stone." The less forgiving you do yourself, the less you will be forgiven for. Just remember that...

Ken
09-18-2003, 04:20 AM
We are here for support, information, and community, not to argue over who knew him well and who did not...

Please feel free to 'debate' or discuss facts of the case if you want but please take other discussions off PTO.

Supportive discussions only please.

vanitygreen
09-18-2003, 09:52 AM
thank you

lilpeatry
09-18-2003, 09:53 PM
Vanitygreen,

I hear you took a poll on Mike. I believe it was if you should love him. I thought you told me he was your brother how could you love him in that intimate way if that was the case and if he was married to your sister. Isnt that a lil sick and twisted? He tells you he loves you, well first you need to tell him to stop lying cause he tells that to too many people as it is like it is water around here. His fate has been decided and is well deserved. Everyone will get their judgement day yes you are right about that however his has been granted to him because he has decided his own fate in life. To take someones life away no matter if they were strung like you said in your PM to me that has no difference what so ever. He has always done that and that is his excuse in life. No matter who trys to help him he will always use that excuse to get away with things. When the FBI asked me if I would like to go to court and testify on his behalf to let them know what type of person he was I said hell no cause I knew what I would say would not help him and why would I after killing an innocent girl for money. OMG people open your eyes and look at what he has done. You can not say if this was your daughter or sister and she was killed for 200.00 for court fees cause of his past stupid mistakes then you should know that he deserves to be where he is right now for his CRIME. No matter if he is a family member or not. He took a life and she didnt even know either of them. Put your self in her shoes and try to imagine her fears and her crys for help. This is wrong why support him and say it is okay and just slap him on the hand and say move on. Life does not go on for her and it shouldnt for him. Sophia's parents live without their daughter everyday and why should you even try to justify it. Love ask Michael if he even knows what that is. I bet you he says he loves you and tells you all you want to hear cause you are more than likely the only one that writes to him so he has no one in this world but you as of now. If he loved you then why havent you met his family in NM. That is odd if he was married to your sister and dated the other one. Just like I said get in line and pass him around in the family cause that is just twisted... get tested as well cause you never know trust me you never know. Save yourself and run. It is a waste of time and energy and a waste of moments on someone that has no meaning of what life is all about or family. Tell Michael he needs to stop lying to himself and all around him and wake up. You so called love him then ask him to tell you the truth about him cause i have plenty of papers on him. Dont go replying cause i dont want to hear any BS on what anyone has to say. Like lilmak said he deserves what he got and justice was done. Sophia's parents are happy and so are we.