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spd5103 02-15-2005, 08:38 AM I have an extended family member incarcerated for child abuse resulting in death. He scalded his girlfriends 2yr old child for punishment, and the child died. With all the shaken baby deaths, ect...I am wondering how these young men who are convicted of these types of crimes are treated on the inside.
Bec Marie 02-15-2005, 03:42 PM I believe that most of the time they will be housed in some sort of protective custody. But my guess is he won't be treated that well. Sorry
1dayatatime 02-15-2005, 03:45 PM From what I understand inmates who have committed a crime against a child is not treated well. Most inmates lie and say they are in on drug charges. (our experience only)
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mrsdragoness 05-01-2005, 09:21 AM Welcome to PTO!
It depends on the state as well.. he should be able to ask for protective custody if the going gets too tough. Good luck!
You may want to check our Extended Family Forum (and others as well). You will find lots of support here.
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asweetangel99 05-01-2005, 09:28 AM I have heard this as well. my experience is that if they do this and then people find out he LIED about his actual charge, it will get worse. sorry we dont have a more positive answer for you. i would recommend he request protective custody if hes not under it already... :(
From what I understand inmates who have committed a crime against a child is not treated well. Most inmates lie and say they are in on drug charges. (our experience only)
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juliwaits 05-01-2005, 10:30 AM Based on my husband's experience only, and the people he's been locked up with:
*the men in COUNTY jails were more apt to lash out at someone with a crime against a child
*most men with crimes against a child DO lie about their crime and while they're in the general population, it benefits them to do so
*protective custody is not automatically given to them, but can be requested
*protective custody is more easily obtained in county jail, they dissuade you from it once you get to prison (arkansas anyway)
It will really depends a lot on what state he is in. In the prisons in California that I am familiar with when you come into a new pod or area the other guys will demand that you produce your papers. If they don’t like what the papers say they will not let you live there.
HisCurse 09-30-2005, 10:03 PM It will really depends a lot on what state he is in. In the prisons in California that I am familiar with when you come into a new pod or area the other guys will demand that you produce your papers. If they don’t like what the papers say they will not let you live there.
Thats how it is in Kansas as well, not all but most men who end up doing time went through some sort of abuse as a child themselves. There is a code of ethics even among the "law less". He wont be able to join any "afiliation" for protection and I just really wouldn't want to be him.
MadeInOz 10-02-2005, 04:12 AM I found - since I spent my time in protective custody - that there was a high level of anger towards prisoners who had committed crimes against children, although it depended on what people had done. In the case of tamps - or child molesters - they were the scum of the earth, but there were some guys in there for killing their own children - mostly through 'accidental' type injuries, and they ... were almost pitied I guess, but they were still down there on the food chain. I only ever saw one fight about what guys had done, and that was more of an advanced verbal that was broken up by inmates. Another prisoner came into the unit, saw a guy who had just been in court, verballed him, and the other guy (half his size)... I guess it depends on who you are, and what section you're in.
BigTime 10-02-2005, 01:32 PM I have an extended family member incarcerated for child abuse resulting in death. He scalded his girlfriends 2yr old child for punishment, and the child died. With all the shaken baby deaths, ect...I am wondering how these young men who are convicted of these types of crimes are treated on the inside.
Ok you asked for it. I'm not going to beat around the bush. He's gonna get it! Exspecially from the lifers. They have nothing to lose. He will probably be gang raped and then turned out for the Gen Pop to take turns on. This is one of the worst things you can go to prison for, next to rape of a child.
sheilad4 10-24-2005, 01:27 PM remember nomatter what a person has done God will forgive them
Lillybee 10-24-2005, 03:29 PM From what I have always heard, child abusers do not fare well in prison. However, you can pray for him for his safety. God is always there!
chas75 11-24-2007, 08:58 AM I have asked my husband the same question and where we are here in ohio he said the guys in there on them kind of charges stick together. Also like others the lie about what they are in there for. My husband told me you just don't walk around asking he man what are you in here for. But in the county jail the are taken straight to protective custody but i the prison they have to request it. We have like three main prison that at least are for sex offenders there are others in there for non-sex crimes 1/2 of the population is sex offenders they have the sex offender programs in those three. But my husband (he is in on a dui) is in one of them (along with a few other friends and family members of are) three prison due to it is in are hometown. But he said there the co's is right on it if anyone does anything to those who offended that way. If they don't there jobs could be on the line for looking the other way.
blondebeauty 12-13-2007, 07:11 AM was he abused as a child, if so did he recieve therupy, most people who abuse were abused themselves wich dont make it right but unresolved feelings are sometimes why people do what they do
texasnurse 12-13-2007, 01:15 PM it does depend on the state in Texas the crime is confidential but if someone really wants to find out they can many times through staff at the prison since they all have access to those files. Most lie which I would reccommend for him. Here if it gets to tough they can request protective custody but they can't stay in it forever but if the prison sees it as a threat sometimes they move them to a different prison. But inmates move around so there's nothing to say that it wouldn't circulate at the next one so it is a risk. But it doesn't always happen.
JimmysonlyGirl 12-13-2007, 01:35 PM It's not good...He should ask for pc right away
Cronesong 12-13-2007, 02:12 PM I know pto is about non judgemental support etc but....
personally I couldnt care less how an adult who could torture and murder an innocent baby is treated ......
as far as I know child abusers / murders / sex offenders are considered the lowest of the low and receive rough tretment from other cons ....
not suprising when statistics show that many inmates were victims of such abuse themsleves as children and therefore harbour anger against abusers.
I'm not saying its right......its the way it is .... a vicious violent cycle...what goes around comes around ......
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