View Full Version : Link to Limestone HIV pictures - Warning: VERY GRAPHIC


danielle
09-08-2003, 06:41 PM
http://www.schr.org/prisonsjails/press%20releases/limestone_photo_index.html

The above link is what the men at Limestone with HIV endure with the pathetic healthcare in the Alabama prison system. Below is the report that goes along with the photos.

I will warn you that these pictures are VERY graphic, but they detail what our loved ones endure when they have HIV in the Alabama prison system. They literally made me sick and I thought I'd seen it all.

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Report Reveals Disturbing Truth of Dangerous and Extremely Poor Conditions for HIV and AIDS Prisoners

HARVEST, AL -- August 26, 2003 -- On Wednesday, Dr. Stephen Tabet, MD, MPH, an infectious disease specialist, released a detailed 125-page report addressing a large number of deaths and “substandard” medical care provided to HIV and AIDS infected male prisoners confined at Limestone Correctional Facility. The report was filed as an expert opinion in the federal lawsuit of Leatherwood, et. al. v. Campbell, et. al. a case that challenges the inadequate medical treatment and living conditions for HIV and AIDS prisoners at Limestone.

The report provides a graphic portrayal of 38 HIV prisoner deaths since 1999; an examination of numerous HIV prisoners currently confined at the facility; and a tour of the physical facilities used to house the HIV prisoners.

"The medical treatment and living conditions experienced by our clients is completely unacceptable, unconstitutional and appalling," stated David Lipman, attorney for the class of HIV prisoners at Limestone.

Since 1999, 38 HIV prisoners have died at Limestone. Dr. Tabet’s report concludes that "[I]n almost all instances the death was preceded by a failure to provide proper medical care or treatment." Almost all of the 38 HIV deaths were caused by "preventable illnesses." In fact, "[P]atients with serious diseases experienced serious delays in medical care or were not treated at all." One HIV prisoner "had such severe pneumonia that he suffocated in front of the medical staff - despite the patient’s requests for treatment, he was not sent to a hospital until his condition was irreversible." Dr. Tabet’s report concludes that "the most egregious medical failure at Limestone is the number of preventable deaths."

In addition, the report details his personal examination of numerous HIV and AIDS infected prisoners on February 12 and 13, 2003. During the HIV prisoner examinations, Dr. Tabet discovered instances of patients not receiving medical treatment for potentially life threatening illnesses -- such as cryptococcal meningitis and pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP); accessibility for handicapped HIV prisoners being "disregarded and neglected"; and evidence of a "recent widespread outbreak of staphylococcal skin infections.

Dr. Tabet also examined the overcrowded open warehouse where the HIV infected prisoners are housed. In his report, Dr. Tabet finds that the "[S]ide-by-side and head-to-toe bunk arrangements place these immune compromised patients and the staff at an undue risk of acquiring contagious diseases."

Dr. Tabet’s report has been filed in the Northern District Court of Alabama. Dr. Tabet has been retained by the lawyers representing the class of HIV prisoners confined at Limestone. Trial has been scheduled before Federal District Court Judge Karon Bowdre after January 15, 2004. Earlier, in February 2003, Alabama Department of Correction’s own auditors -- Jacqueline Moore and Associates -- found similar medical and living conditions.

Attorney Lipman continues, “The state of Alabama has failed to provide even a basic, humane level of medical care for our clients. Dr. Tabet’s findings parallel the previous findings found by Alabama Department of Correction’s own auditors, Jacqueline Moore and Associates. We seek Federal Court intervention as the state of Alabama has forfeited their right to provide medical care.”

Lysbeth
09-08-2003, 07:16 PM
Oh, that's just terrible and heartbreaking. How awful. Thanks for sharing the link, though. I'd rather be informed any day than not.

If I'm not mistaken the HIV dorm is one of two dorms being used now that used to be warehouses. Not good living conditions at all.

danielle
09-08-2003, 09:04 PM
I simply can't get these images out of my mind. It's horrible and I am so angry at this messed up system.

mrsdragoness
09-08-2003, 09:28 PM
I don't know what to say......what horror! I have seen psychiatric patients come into the hospital in sad physical shape, but never, ever did I see anything like this..... How can this be allowed to happen in the United States???

mrs. d

Phil in Paris
09-09-2003, 06:39 AM
This should NOT happen at all !!!! Nowadays, HIV+ patients shouldn't develop all those illnesses and infections. There are so many new efficient treatments that this shouldn't happen. This is a real shame no human being should be treated this way.

Phil :(

flygirlaa2
09-09-2003, 07:06 AM
You know what hurts me the most. Some if not most of these men got this deadly disease from prison rape. Can you image going thru that horror only to find out that you received HIV? God bless them.

danielle
09-09-2003, 07:37 PM
You know what I wonder...What's been hidden and covered up? This doctor's arrival was no secret - they had time to prepare, yet he still uncovered horror.

There is no excuse. None at all.

cember
09-09-2003, 08:01 PM
good point, danielle. these pictures are so sad. i cant believe they make humans live in such conditions. look at how close the bunk beds are together, all stacked on top of each other like that...

stillbelieve
09-10-2003, 01:25 AM
You know, Danielle, I was thinking the same thing! If they let the doctor come and photograph the men in this horrible condition-What did they cover up before he arrived? It makes me sick at my stomach. Who can we contact about doing something about this?

E1950
09-10-2003, 06:12 PM
THESE PICTURES JUST BREAK MY HEART.NO ONE SHOULD BE TREATED THIS WAY. IT IS JUST WRONG TO STRIP AWAY BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. RIGHT HERE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY EVEN. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT DIDN'T WE JUST GO TO A COUNTRY AND WENT TO WAR OVER A LEADER WHO TREATED PEOPLE JUST LIKE THIS? MAY GOD BLESS AND BE WITH THESE PRECIOUS MEN AT LIMESTONE WHO ARE SUFFERING SUCH HORROR.....SUE

lovinbilly4ever
09-10-2003, 06:34 PM
gosh, that is SO sad. :mad:
i sure hope that something changes. they NEED to be in the hospital & they NEED 2 get off their big stupid butts & help out these inmates. very sad. i hope something changes

danielle
09-10-2003, 06:40 PM
I've posted horror story after horror story about NaphCare, Inc. - the private company that supposedly provides healthcare for Alabama prisoners. It's one of the main things I do when I'm not on PTO - research, research, and communicating with others that have been hurt by them. It's sometimes all-consuming and I had no idea how horribe the situation was until the love of my life was denied basic medical care.

I take this BS personally!

I'm so grateful for the SCHR and other groups that have brought lawsuits against NaphCare and the Alabama DOC. Hopefully this insanity will stop and soon - before more and more die needlessly.

LeesLady
01-28-2005, 07:28 PM
I think this should be sent to the President and ask him to compare this to the prisoners in Iraq.

melbo
01-28-2005, 07:40 PM
I agree with LeesLady, this is horrible. Very heartbreaking.

SCM32
01-28-2005, 07:47 PM
This hurts me. Look at those guys. They need some of us out here to stand up and scream LOUD for them These pictures are the worst I have ever seen. Whoever is running that prison needs to wake the hell up. If it's a money problem. Why don't they just load up those guys and transport them to a good hospital . And just bill em like they do us out here. SICK SICK SICK :blah: And OMG a man with severe pneumonia suffocated rite in front of medical staff. I am so dam MAD rite now. :angry: Whomever has allowed this to take place should face criminal charges themselves. :angry:

LeesLady
01-28-2005, 08:32 PM
president@whitehouse.gov This is the e-mail address for the president.I sent him an e-mail with a link to the pictures at Limestone and ask him to compare them to the Iraq prisoners.:thumbsup:

melbo
01-28-2005, 09:21 PM
Way to go, that should definetly get his attention!

gigi v
01-28-2005, 10:02 PM
You Go Girl Leeslady. Ill Back You 100%

titantoo
01-29-2005, 12:30 AM
Disgusting disregard for the fact that these are human being. Especially when it is preventable. Doing nothing is like supporting the Nazis in the 30s.

Lysbeth
01-30-2005, 05:21 PM
This thread is about a year and a half old. Since that time the prisoners in the HIV dorm at Limestone were moved to what used to be the honor dorm, which has individual two-man cells and many other amenities, is very roomy, and is much closer to the hospital/nursing facilities at the prison. There has not been much publicity since but I would assume the prison was forced to improve their care overall and certainly the living conditions have improved and they are closer to their medical care station.

In turn, some of the former honor dorm inmates now live where the HIV dorm men lived previously, so take that for what it's worth.

SCM32
01-31-2005, 05:42 PM
This thread is about a year and a half old. Since that time the prisoners in the HIV dorm at Limestone were moved to what used to be the honor dorm, which has individual two-man cells and many other amenities, is very roomy, and is much closer to the hospital/nursing facilities at the prison. There has not been much publicity since but I would assume the prison was forced to improve their care overall and certainly the living conditions have improved and they are closer to their medical care station.

In turn, some of the former honor dorm inmates now live where the HIV dorm men lived previously, so take that for what it's worth.
:dance: This is nice to hear. I wish all other places with that kind of treatment, would do the same, and consider these people being human beings.

SCM32
01-31-2005, 05:45 PM
president@whitehouse.gov This is the e-mail address for the president.I sent him an e-mail with a link to the pictures at Limestone and ask him to compare them to the Iraq prisoners.:thumbsup:
Did you put the graphics directly into the mail, so rite when they open it they will see the pics ? I don't know if they will click on any links. But I'm not sure. I just know they need to see these pictures for ALL prisoners who may be being treated this way. Thanx :thumbsup:

Belladonna38
07-19-2005, 10:30 AM
This is terrible. They treat people better in Iran. We should be taking care
of these people with respect.

MiaBellaAngela
07-19-2005, 10:36 AM
I read how they make them stand outside for meds for hours sometimes. They don't make other inmates stand outside for meds. That is just so sickening and unjust.

DeniseJJ
07-19-2005, 10:47 AM
ladies, this is an very old post, there was a lawsuit that the inmates WON and conditions have improved some but there remains to be some problems..

lisharon
03-04-2008, 02:38 PM
when i tried to open up the link it said no page found! does everyone who goes to limestone have HIV because i just received a call from limestone, and yesterday he was in kilby, to my knowlegde we have nothing? worried:mad:

MacTwin
03-04-2008, 11:15 PM
Don't think the pics would still be there...its an old post.

Most recent update was made in this thread in 2005 by Lysbeth....

This thread is about a year and a half old. Since that time the prisoners in the HIV dorm at Limestone were moved to what used to be the honor dorm, which has individual two-man cells and many other amenities, is very roomy, and is much closer to the hospital/nursing facilities at the prison. There has not been much publicity since but I would assume the prison was forced to improve their care overall and certainly the living conditions have improved and they are closer to their medical care station.

In turn, some of the former honor dorm inmates now live where the HIV dorm men lived previously, so take that for what it's worth.

hth